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The Royal Society Moves to Expel Musk Over His Political Views

Founded in 1660, the Royal Society is one of the most prominent scientific organizations in the world with associations to such luminaries as Sir Isaac Newton and Charles Darwin. Despite that proud history, British scientists are pushing to politicize the society and expel Elon Musk because they disagree with his political views. It is not simply anti-intellectual but self-destructive for a society committed to the pursuit of scientific knowledge.

Few individuals in history have had a more pronounced impact on scientific and technological advances than Musk. His work on Space X alone has reshaped space technology. The upcoming mission to rescue the stranded scientists only highlights his transformative role and that of his company.

However, more than 2,700 scientists have signed an open letter that cited his public attacks on figures such as Anthony Fauci. They also noted that ‘The situation is rendered more serious because ‘Mr. Musk now occupies a position within a Trump administration in the USA that has over the past several weeks engaged in an assault on scientific research in the US that has fallen foul of federal courts.’”

It is unclear what cases are being referenced, since there have been several rulings against efforts to enjoin DOGE and Musk. More importantly, such litigation has only just begun.  Whether the challengers or the Administration have “fallen foul” is yet to be determined.

Others made it clear that they simply disagree with Musk’s views.

Professor Dorothy Bishop, a University of Oxford psychologist, resigned earlier from the society, stating “I just feel far more comfortable to be dissociated from an institution that continues to honour this disreputable man.”

Others accused Musk of spreading “disinformation,” a much-abused category in the United Kingdom as a basis for censorship.

Many of these scientists seem selective in their outrage. I do not recall the Royal Society rushing to the defense of the many scientists who were fired or silenced over their dissenting views on COVID-19.

That includes the lab theory that led to scientists being denounced as conspiracy theorists or racists. Now, federal agencies agree that the theory is legitimate and indeed favored by some offices.

Some experts questioned the efficacy of surgical masks, the scientific support for the six-foot rule and the necessity of shutting down schools. The government has now admitted that many of these objections were valid and that it did not have hard science to support some of the policies. While other allies in the West did not shut down their schools, we never had any substantive debate due to the efforts of this alliance of academic, media and government figures.

Not only did millions die from the pandemic, but the United States is still struggling with the educational and mental health consequences of shutting down all our public schools. That is the true cost of censorship when the government works with the media to stifle scientific debate and public disclosures.

There is an alternative. The Royal Society could confine its review to the scientific contributions of figures like Musk. The subjectivity of this criticism should be antithetical to a scientific organization. Science is ideally a field that transcends political, social, and religious divisions. Few figures in history have advanced the cause of space travel and green technology as Musk.

I hope the Royal Society will decline to engage in such political exclusions, but I am hardly hopeful. However, in carrying out this expulsion, they will do far more harm to their society than to Elon Musk.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”

419 thoughts on “The Royal Society Moves to Expel Musk Over His Political Views”

    5. There is something deeply pleasing about the target of weaponized 3 letter agencies ultimately heading the FBI that targeted him. Who better to reform?

      1. “Who better to reform?”

        Or eliminate? That is my primary fear regarding Trump’s & Musk’s fedgov reformation efforts. There undoubtedly are a number of fed depts and agencies that should just flat out be eliminated, I would cite ATF & (arguably) FBI as two examples. Has Trump appointed leaders to those organizations who can avoid the temptation to sandbag justified elimination of same in order to preserve their positions?

  2. Geb, I agree with you! But then again, I am “inhumane, and not a complete human being”according to one of the trolls, today. What a joke, from the kiddie mutilators!

    1. Floyd, the DNC Media Matters paid troll replied to my every other comment when I first arrived on this forum several years ago. His sock puppet at the time was “Peter Hill”. That harassment was entertaining for me. I was called a Russian bot, my Estovir profile name was deemed to be Russian (it is actually Latin), I was accused of being the moderator, Darren, and later accused of being the author of all comments on here by legitimate posters, and on and on. He once identified as living in West Hollywood, a Jew, a Republican, married with 6 children, an affluent business owner, construction supplier, an attorney, nurse practitioner, joint MD/PhD…you get the picture

      Take the insults as compliments. Ignoring him drives him nucken futs

      😉

      1. Whoever he is, he appears to be some kind of nut. I seldom feed the trolls, because a lot of what they are about is getting attention. I hope you are doing better healthwise!

        1. Doing well, thanks. Saw my surgeon on Tuesday for my first post-operative visit followed by my first physical therapy session. what is the origin of very pleased with the surgical incision, and he said it’ll heal very nicely where it’ll barely be noticeable months from now. He is giving me permission to drive my car to go to PT sessions. I’m also allowed to do some exercises at home to strengthen my surgical sight. Otherwise I stopped taking the pain medications and I seem but it’ll be several months before I get back into the gym and regain full mobility. otherwise I’m pleased

          I hope you are well given the snowstorm. Hope your cats did ok and that you kept warm in your home. We had 6″ of powdery dry snow at our home. Beautiful sight. Thank God no ice!

      2. Hi Estovir!!!

        I remember Peter Hill! What a nutbar! I did a tongue twister on him years ago:

        ————–
        Of course you’re a damn shill! Not just that, but a shrill shill. Hmmm. !!! A new tongue twister

        Peter Hill shrilly shilled swill til his trill killed the thrill.

        Now, say that 5 times fast!

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter
        —————–
        And this one may have been about him too, because wasn’t he “Hollywood”, also???:

        ————
        Dang it, I wasn’t trying to be cruel to Poor Hollywood, The Verbose Commenter,
        but Allan planted the seed in my mind, and then I couldn’t tamp down Erato,
        the Muse of Poetry, and then Sarkazanos, the Muse of Sarcasm went to work on me,
        and well. . . here it is, another cruel Irish Poem from me.

        Running On. Empty???
        An Irish Poem by Squeeky Fromm

        Poor Hollywood galloped like Gish. . .
        And got hung out to dry like a fish!
        His “logic” verbose,
        Didn’t even come close,
        And his arguments met with a SQUISH!

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

        PS: Now, get thee hence, Muses, and let me return to my reveries. . .
        ————

        1. Well done Squeeky.

          Peter Hill was often called by many of us:

          Peter Shrill
          The Shrill
          Paintchips
          WeHo Nail Salon Owner
          Mistress Nail Salon Owner
          ATS
          Bottom Boy

          and so many others. It was free entertainment!

          He now goes by:

          Elvis Bug
          George
          Wally
          Gigi
          Sammy
          Dennis
          Concerned Citizen
          Franke
          Purple Anonymous (usally writes about Bush, Reagan, Guantanamo GITMO), etc

          and others yet to be named

          1. Estovir, you might be right, but giving George Svelaz Shill Warner that much credit is generous to a fault. I don’t believe he was Elvis Bug or most of the others mentioned. His patterns don’t match, but hey, you could be right, and I could be wrong.

            Squeaky, I doubt he was Hollywood, though he did, at one point, parade around under movie-themed aliases.

            Not that it matters whether George Svelaz Shill Warner were one fool or four (which is highly doubtful), the result would be the same: pure, unfiltered stupidity.

      3. Whether you ignore them or not is your choice.

        What is absolutely true is those on the left present as completely nuts.

        There are posters not on the left here that I disagree with. Sometimes I have disagreed with you.

        But few present as ALWAYS NUTS.

        All of us make false assumptions or logical errors on occasion.
        Some of us more frequently than others.

        But the most virulent left wing posters here ALWAYS come accross as NUTS, ALWAYS are far short on logic, ALWAYS at best look only at the first order effects – if that.

        Most of the time their own posts – without comment make them look nuts.

        Sometimes I choose to dismember those comments line by line – but that is not really because I think it will have any effect on them.

          1. Floyd, a small dose of Troll can bring humor and a rise in endorphin levels that reduce pain. I don’t think endorphins from anger at their stupidity is worth it.

    2. Floyd-think of these trolls as dartboards and everytime you land a dart they screech an insult. They do not think. It’s only a reflex loop. No brain required.

  3. On a more serious note here (vis-a-vis my previous post), –here’s this:
    In 2018, the Royal Society invited its two newest members to sign their names in its renowned Charter Book (which dates back to 1663): Elon Musk (physics and economics background) and Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (computer science/AI research).
    “The Royal Society said Musk was elected a fellow for his contributions to space travel, sustainable electric transportation, solar power, low-cost internet satellites and hypersonic ground transportation. Hassabis was elected a fellow ‘thanks to his pioneering work merging cognitive neuroscience and machine learning to produce breakthroughs in deep learning that helped master the game of Go with AlphaGo.'” https://www.forbes.com/sites/samshead/2018/07/16/elon-musk-signed-a-350-year-old-book-with-deepminds-demis-hassabis/?sh=3c464a7f6764

    To think that Musk may now have to relinquish that honor based on his personal/political views, –having nothing to do with his scientific accomplishments–, is numb-nutting. Even critically assessing as truth that his DOGE recommendations are temporarily putting the brakes on needed scientific R&D and forward momentum, the remedy does not match the alleged or perceived wrong, IMHO.
    Paraphrasing, it comes down to a “failure to state a claim upon which the prescribed relief should be granted…”

  4. The ‘Royal’ society has its own problem in it’s name. We no longer recognize monarchy or aristocracy, and they can **** off. This means precisely zero to free Americans that left that nonsense behind 300 years ago. Honestly: who cares? And what do they hope to achieve other than to make themselves look even MORE like privileged and petty tyrants, globally? Pfft. Whatever, Britain. Maybe deal with your fascism problem first.

    That country and its dwindling empire have been on the radar for being anti-freedom for a good long while. At some point their citizens will have had aneough, but as they always do, they will blame us. I could care less. This is karma for their very much generational imperialism, and yes, it sucks for them. They do not learn. I have no sympathy.

    1. Conservatives have no sympathy because they are incomplete people, bereft of Humanity.
      Incomplete People.

    2. James
      Where the F is Oliver Reeder when we need him? 🤣🤣
      Balderdash and blood clots Old Cap!

  5. One of the areas that DOGE has uncovered is the obscene amount of NSF “research” into DEI topics.
    https://x.com/SwipeWright/status/1863983650821316874/photo/1

    Undoubtedly this sweet spigot is now shut off much to the dismay and consternation of some in the RS. It is probably not so much Musk’s political views that resulted in the collective ire by RS scientists but rather his exposure and challenging the value to the American public of certain research NSF research grants. This in addition to shutting off highly questionable USAID gain-of-function research that we were assured by Dr. Fauci was not funded but he managed to continue to funnel money indirectly to this endeavor.. Elon Musk committed the cardinal sin of becoming not only politically influential but being energetically active at exposing questionable government expenditures. The intelligentsia do not like to be exposed much less second guessed.

      1. Second guessed by their purported inferiors who interestingly enough are proving RIGHT on issue after issue.

        What could be more painful for an arrogant leftist,
        Than to prove the intellectual inferior to a peasant.

  6. Absolutely Appalling.. simply Astonishing that ANY esteemed Royal Society To-day, here dedicated to the Excellence & pursuit of Science would even consider such a Narrow-minded, Closed-Minded, Destructive Move… Officially heralding the Spanish Inquisition…. Especially regarding One, Elon Musk, who has successfully blown open & shared so many avenues to leading edge Science…… one’s Politics have NOTHING to do with their Contributions to Science.. Are The British showing us that they are no longer capable of living up to their once glorious reputation.. has the Death of the British Empire now reached this level of completeness……….?? Thank You, Prof. Turley for exposing what is going on here….

      2. How is Glavset different from USAID ?

        One of the things that has been exposed is While left wing nuts were ranting about Russian interferance in US elections
        the US govenrment was paing for interferance in elections all over the world.

  7. First let’s state this is private organization with rights to include anyone they wish or dis-clude or expel anyone. But to the base matter of expelling Mr. Musk, the conceit of one’s station is apparent. The members of the organization showing their vainglory, demonstrates that the English have not moved passed worship of Royalty. To put in lay terms, Blue Blood we are, our status unquestionable, we judge you unacceptable.

      1. @IGeorgeJwhatever

        Would love to know where your funding is coming from in light of DOGE’s transparency (really. You can go to the website and see it all out in the open, very, very out in the open). I can only think Soros etc. are your patrons, and at this point the rest of us do not just think it stupid, but beyond immoral and corrupt. You are the one that has to look at yourself in the mirror everyday. Let that sink in, the rest of us will move on. You have 22% approval in biased polls; it is likely far lower. The world is rejecting modern Marxism.

    2. Theodore Roosevelt, The Sorbonne, Paris, France, April 23, 1910:

      “It’s not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.

      The credit belongs to the man whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; one who strives valiantly; who errs, and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds: who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.”

      Thought this small portion was apropos to the subject today.

          1. I did not.

            TR went all over the world killing everything he could find in his later years, and the family celebrated his son’s first kill in the WWI air war. The next week his son was killed and war was not so much fun anymore.

            1. You life on this planet has REQUIRED killing. So get off your high horse.

              Unless you eat Dirt or Dung and live in a mud hut you have killed things to live.

        2. Often it is.

          The left thinks Bully means anyone who gets in their way.

          Please accuse me or others here of bullying you

          That would be a compliment.

  8. These are “scientists” who would excommunicate the Sun because it causes skin cancer.

    In fact, these are not scientists at all.

    These are self-delegitimizing charlatans.

      1. I have 5 years in HS, Won the country Chemistry Science fair twice, Got awards from the AirForce.
        Was invited to the Naval Academy.
        I taught myself post graduate college math in HS to be able to master some difficult chemistry. Took 3 years of science in College – at two of the top engineering schools in the country.
        And none of the above includes my Math or engineering backgrounds.

        in 2023 and 2024 I was published in ACM for work involving Chemistry, cyrstalography, materials, physics, math, basic computing software and logic design.

        And Musk is far more capable than I am.

  9. I am certain this is going to keep Elon up for nights on end, pacing the floor in anguish and self-loathing.

  10. Dennis McIntyre must be BANNED FOR LIFE for impudent fraud and encouraged to establish his own blog where visitors may go voluntarily to obtain his wisdom, aka rubbish.

  11. Wow, a science society removing a member for doing more damage to science than anyone since the 1940s. How awful.

  12. Jonathan: Now I know there is chaos and confusion within Musk’s DOGE. The helter skelter firing of FAA employees and the discharge of critical personnel at the agency charged with the care and custody of nuclear weapons–only to realize that was a big mistake. Then in one lawsuit the DOJ lawyers tell the court Elon Musk is really not in charge of DOGE. Then the next day DJT says the direct opposite. So on the surface it doesn’t appear neither Musk nor DJT are on the same page.

    But Musk does actually have a plan and he’s executing it. And it’s not about eliminating “waste, abuse and fraud”. That’s just the cover for what Musk actually wants. Musk considers himself the “angel of death”. He wants to eliminate any oversight of his businesses. That’s why he made the head of the FAA resign because the agency was trying to hold Space X accountable for its slip slod safety violations and the mid-air explosions of its rockets. Another case in point? Musk’s Neurolink–the company that is experimenting with brain implants to help patients with impaired eyesight. A worthy goal.

    But in this endeavor Musk has run into problems. The FDA has been investigating Neurolink for animal experiment abuse and other problems with the program. So on January 29 Musk’s DOGE people had the USDA Inspector General escorted from the building because she refused the firing order. And Musk just fired 22 employees of the FDA responsible for making sure the Neurolink implants are safe for humans. Musk wants his implants approved without messy government approvals.

    The Q must be asked. Would you want one of your parents to have a Neurolink chip implanted in his/her brain if it had not under gone rigorous testing and had been approved by the FDA or any other government agency? I can’t think of a more frightening prospect. But that’s what Musk wants. He wants to eliminate any government oversight of his businesses. That’s his plan and he is carrying it out with precision!

    1. I know Denny him/her/theyself won’t give an answer to this, so I ask the community: does anyone have any proof of the FAA and FDA claims this maroon is spouting, or is he subjecting himself to another rectal craniopathy?

      1. ^ Retard crybaby loser, pretends he’s smarter and holier than thou, but fools nobody ^

    3. Thanks, Dennis: then, there’s the firing of the people at the USDA who are conducting bird flu experiments, and his elimination of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau–that holds banks, credit card companies, airlines and other businesses accountable for overcharging consumers and forcing them to refund money. In 13 years, the CFPB returned $20 billion to consumers. Oh, and then there’s the people whose job it is to safeguard our nuclear stockpiles–fired-and Musk doesn’t have any way to call them back to work because they shut off their government e-mails and don’t have other contact information. As you mentioned, Musk fired a bunch of FAA employees, too–how ironic since we have almost a daily plane crash.

      Turley didn’t mention that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals just refused Trump’s demand to reinstate his EO that tried to cancel birthright citizenship. Trump lost in the lower court, too. From “USA Today”:

      ” President Donald Trump’s fast and furious efforts to remake and downsize the federal government have hit a bit of a speed bump.

      The stunning number of executive orders and other actions taken by Trump in his first weeks in office have generated more than thirty lawsuits.

      And the first wave to hit the courts haven’t gone Trump’s way.

      In recent days, judges have pumped the brakes on Trump’s efforts to freeze spending, cull the federal workforce, end automatic citizenship for children born on U.S. soil, send transgender women to men’s prisons, access federal payment systems, and dismantle the United States Agency for International Development.

      “It has become ever more apparent that to our president the rule of law is but an impediment to his policy goals,” U.S. District Judge John Coughenour said on Thursday when he extended an order he had issued two weeks ago temporarily blocking Trump from curtailing birthright citizenship.

      “The rule of law is, according to him, something to navigate around or simply ignore, whether that be for political or personal gain,” Coughenour said.

      But such comments don’t mean Trump won’t ultimately win or won’t cause permanent changes even if he eventually loses some of his fights.

      The freeze on foreign aid, for example, is already damaging the network of groups the federal government relies on to deliver overseas assistance, according to Scott R. Anderson, a former U.S. diplomat and government attorney now at the Brookings Institution.

      “That whole industry is getting crippled and may collapse,” he said.”

      Then, King Donald didn’t just lie and accuse Zelenskyy of being an “unelected dictator”–even though Zelenskyy won in a free and fair election, he also accused him of “starting” the war with Russia–and doubled down on these lies.

  13. Musk doesn’t need the “Royal Society”.
    He should start his own organization, give grants and prizes and generally have a good time. He could call it the American Society for Real Science and Engineering

      1. You may be sick of Musk, but he’s like a fever. the only solution is more cowbell.
        And boy, are most of us not tired of winning yet!

    4. @Oldfish

      Precisely, these are pompous ass*****, pure and simple. And pray tell, now that USAID has been halted, where today, on the topic of Britain, is ‘Oliver’? Spare me and spare us all. Britain knows it’s f*****. Their people can stand up or not, it isn’t our problem. We left them in the dust centuries ago, and for them to now envy our freedom says all it needs to say.

  14. Best not to get your knickers in a twist, Royal Society. Jealousy isn’t a good look, either.

  15. The Royal Society seeking to “expel Elon Musk because they disagree with his political views.”

    A little historical context might be helpful here.

    The Fabian Society society was founded in England in the late 19th century. It was (and still is) a socialist organization dedicated to the spread of socialism in every cultural institution — the arts, government, education. It adopted the “insider strategy.” Start with one or two socialists inside an institution, then over time, completely consume that institution with socialism.

    That “insider strategy,” which has been very effective, was also applied to science. What you’re seeing in the Royal Society debacle is the rotten fruit of that strategy.

    “The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing’, represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal. (Jon Perdue)

  16. #74. Not enough information. What cases before the courts? Shares views with the Trump administration? Which views?

    It appears Trump and Musk have offered competition to the Davos group. The Trump org is seeking to end wars, working on a collapsed economy riddled with crimes, and borders, currently.

    * disclaimer- there are views and actions of the Trump organization I, too, disagree with.

  17. Questions and missions to be resolved by the elite Royal Society:

    How many Einsteins does it take to change a lightbulb?
    That depends on the speed of the change and the mass of the bulb. Or vice versa, of course. It just might be easier to leave the bulb and change the room. It’s all relative.

    How many [Royal Society] board meetings does it take to get the lightbulb [caricature above Musk’s head] changed?
    This topic was resumed from last week’s discussion but is incomplete pending resolution of some action items. It will be continued next week.

    How many existentialists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
    One to screw it in and one to observe how the lightbulb itself symbolizes a single incandescent beacon of subjective reality in a netherworld of endless absurdity reaching out toward the maudlin cosmos of nothingness.

    Scientists have determined how many people it takes to screw in a lightbulb.
    It’s less than to screw in a heavy bulb.

    Read them all; they’re pretty funny. e.g., https://thoughtcatalog.com/january-nelson/2019/09/40-change-a-lightbulb-jokes-that-are-absolutely-hilarious/

  18. Jonathan: As usual you get it all wrong! The 2700 signatories to the letter to the Royal Society DO NOT call for the expulsion of Elon Musk. They simply ask the Society to review its code of conduct that mandates the “use of science for the benefit of society”. Dorothy Bishop, a member of the Society and professor of psychology at Oxford, says she resigned from the Society because she doesn’t think the Society should honor a “Bond villain”: “The situation is rendered more serious because Mr. Musk now occupies a position within a Trump administration in the USA that has over the past several weeks engaged in the assault on scientific research in the US”.

    For example, the signatories of the letter want an explanation from the Royal Society as to why they would honor a man who has called for the criminal prosecution of Dr. Fauci, a leading scientist who led the fight against Covid-19 in the US. The signatories also point out that Musk also promotes unscientific conspiracy theories, now engages in cutting back government funding for scientific research, fires leading scientists and imposes censorship on scientific research agencies. That violates the Society’s commitment to freedom of expression.

    The signatories of the letter also point out that Musk is not a scientist. He is an investor and businessman. They ask what actual scientific research has Musk engaged in? None. The signatories suggest Musk could be better honored by the Royal Engineering Society if it chooses. But they question Musk’s inclusion in the Royal Society. Some members of the Society think Musk should be expelled for his two Nazi salutes alone!

    So on March 3 the Royal Society will consider the letter from 2700 leading scientists from around the world. What will the Society do? If it’s true to its mission it will expel Musk!

    1. Another mental health affliction! Trump Derangement Syndrome is not alone; now … this political hack-poster has … Musk Derangement Syndrome … in spades! Perhaps consult the psychologist quoted in the article or find one in your Medicare health plan.

    2. That is not what ignorant and insecure folk want to believe, so they lie to themselves to make them feel better, like they do with religion.

  19. A certain strain of the world population who think they know better than us rubes, the “elites”, are nothing but a bunch of authoritarians whose political leanings have destroyed the fabric of the West. Let them commit suicide but I won’t follow.

  20. It’s Herd Instinct –

    The Left moves like a herd. A herd of primitive, tribal savages, who live in Cartoon World. Trump be bad! Musk be bad! Must make bad peoples go away! That is why you see them piling on like they do.

    All this talk about Nazis, but you know who made the best little Nazis, the kind who would gas women and children – people like the Democrats – who are just super at following orders.

    One example, was the House vote on men in women’s sports. Nobody believes that is fair, or sensible, yet only 1% of House Democrats voted for the bill. Ummm Ummm, but they are sure good at following orders!

    1. Think about how psychotic an entire political party must be that is for men beating the crap out of women in women’s sports (and invading women’s private spaces like locker rooms and showers), while being against efforts to root out hundreds of billions in fraud and waste of taxpayer dollars.

      1. There are 9 trans athletes in NCAA sports out of 50,000+. It’s a nothing burger issue.

        2. We’ve all seen how at many levels women and girls have had their opportunities stolen from them, have suffered injuries and hospitalization from being physically beaten by biological males, have had to share intimate places with biological males, and have even been raped in women’s prisons and sexually assaulted in high school girls bathrooms. All in worship of your woke god. You prove my point by calling all of that a nothing burger. You illustrate the psychopathic tendencies of your entire party.

        3. # it’s an insult to women. It’s misogyny. Trans don’t cut the muster of women.

      2. I don’t know if they are psychotic, or if they are just masters at following commands. Maybe the House Democrats from Blue States know that they don’t have to do anything but be a Democrat to get re-elected. There are life-long Democrats who will pull the D lever, no matter what, as long as they are not personally affected. I think that is part of why Trump won this time, because the Biden Inflation was killing them. The two dissenting Democrats were both from Texas, so they had to be more careful.

        But the others? Nah, just follow the Party commands, and nothing will happen to you. The people of Massachusetts, Connecticut, Delaware, will vote Democrat no matter what. And if you are the Rep, who is from a Blue Big City – same deal.

    2. Lefty virtue signalers are the best little Nazis, yet they throw the word “fascist” around like confetti.

      “What a gift…to see ourselves as others see us.”

      With apologies to poet Robert Burns for my bad paraphrase.

    3. Floyd- I would prefer to see these people pile on at the bottom of a cliff.
      It’s just so Stone Age .

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