We recently discussed how the United Kingdom has continued its erosion of free speech by pushing an effective blasphemy law. Now, a London man has been convicted of a “religiously aggravated public order offence.” Hamit Coskun, 50, a Turkish-born Armenian-Kurdish atheist was arrested after burning a Qur’an.
Coskun was protesting the government of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in Ankara over his embrace of radical Islamic principles. Exclaiming “f**k Islam” and “Islam is religion of terrorism,” he burned the Qur’an and was then slashed by a Muslim man with a knife. Critics were outraged that the man (who later pleaded guilty) was released while police continued to hold Coskun.
Despite arguing that his protest was protected speech, District Judge John McGarva convicted him and declared that his actions were “highly provocative” and that they were “motivated at least in part by a hatred of Muslims.” Judge McGarva made clear that his views of Islam would not be tolerated in the United Kingdom:
“After considering the evidence, I find you have a deep-seated hatred of Islam and its followers. That’s based on your experiences in Turkey and the experiences of your family. It’s not possible to separate your views about the religion to your views about the followers.
I do accept that the choice of location was in part that you wanted to protest what you see as the Islamification of Turkey. But you were also motivated by the hatred of Muslims and knew some would be at the location.”
Coskun later correctly condemned the decision as “an assault on free speech” and added:
“Christian blasphemy laws were repealed in this country more than 15 years ago, and it cannot be right to prosecute someone for blaspheming against Islam. Would I have been prosecuted if I’d set fire to a copy of the bible outside Westminster Abbey? I doubt it.”
For years, I have been writing about the decline of free speech in the United Kingdom and the steady stream of arrests, including in my book, The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.
A man was convicted for sending a tweet while drunk referring to dead soldiers. Another was arrested for an anti-police t-shirt. Another was arrested for calling the Irish boyfriend of his ex-girlfriend a “leprechaun.” Yet another was arrested for singing “Kung Fu Fighting.” A teenager was arrested for protesting outside of a Scientology center with a sign calling the religion a “cult.”
Nicholas Brock, 52, was convicted of a thought crime in Maidenhead, Berkshire. The neo-Nazi was given a four-year sentence for what the court called his “toxic ideology” based on the contents of the home he shared with his mother in Maidenhead, Berkshire. Judge Peter Lodder QC dismissed free speech or free thought concerns with a truly Orwellian statement:
“I do not sentence you for your political views, but the extremity of those views informs the assessment of dangerousness.”
Lodder lambasted Brock for holding Nazi and other hateful values:
“[i]t is clear that you are a right-wing extremist, your enthusiasm for this repulsive and toxic ideology is demonstrated by the graphic and racist iconography which you have studied and appeared to share with others…”
The fear is that an expanded hate speech law that includes criticism of Islamophobia will operate like a British blasphemy law. In 2008, the common law offences of blasphemy and blasphemous libel were abolished in England. This new effort could constructively restore such prosecutions as they relate to Islam.
*. It’s crystal clear that the deep State in the UK are islamic jihadists. They hate Judaism and will not rest until not a single Jew ( their word) remains on earth and all people on earth worship alla and morehammah.
Good luck with China bud.
Another aspect of the article is Islam is not a moral authority for most of the world’s population and the Koran burner is not blasphemous.
Islam is authoritarian and has bizarre requirements. It has sacred relics such as the Haj where millions race around it trampling to death others. It seen in the US today in killings known as blood offerings to their creator.
** it–>it’s ^^^
Blood offerings are killing Jewish people as offerings to the bloodthirsty alla. The 1200 in Israel are such.
The UK is islamic as the EU may also be. It appears Italy is aligned with China.
Barack HUSSEIN Obama
Islam has no moral authority over anything except its adherents.
It’s the zealotry in the message, not the specific ideation that poses a threat to public order. In a democracy, the tone and atmospherics of public discourse are meant to be inquisitive, dispassionate and cerebral. If fanatical loudmouths and provocateurs are allowed to take over the public square, the exchange becomes defensive and brittle — problem-solving gives way to pointless acrimony and side-taking. Speech and gesturing devolve into war-like patterns, where they are laced with deceptions and intimidation.
If you don’t recognize this, then you’ve been asleep the past 10 years.
Before you have speech freedom all figured out, ask yourself if the point of it is to hand the mic to the village idiot, the angry misanthrope and the deceitful provocateur? Ask yourself whether productive conversation has any special status compared to hyper-defensive rants in our shared infospace? If you don’t think there should be a preference for authenticity, civility and goodwill in who is given a voice — if you would cede full speech rights to hardened zealots — take a look at Gaza. There’s a people awash in unrestrained zealotry.
When I watch speakers in parks in the UK – anyone not a muzzie gets threatened and often physically assaulted or stabbed by these intolerant fuzzy wuzzy’s. Islam is in no way peaceful as it’s whole doctrine is based on imposition upon all others by violence. It’s hypocrisy is legion , it’s violence in the name of is sacred to those whom march to “the name of”.
This is half true. Roughly half of Muslims worldwide are secular moderates who have renounced Sharia in favor of individual freedom under civilian (non-religious) law. In places like the UK, secularist Muslims are more like 80%.
But, that 20% of fundamentalist Islamists are a huge problem, and need to be pushed out of the UK.
There is a cultural (and violent) war within Islam,,,,a schism that began 100 years ago with Kemal Mustafa Ataturk and a modernist in Malaysia.
If you can’t see this division within the Moslem faith, then you are incredibly aloof about geopolitics.
Trump made it the theme of his campaign speech of August 15 2016 (Detroit?) He announced a policy where the United States is allied with the moderate secularist Moslems in overtaking the Sharia Supremacists — as an official US policy. It was a brilliant speech and strategy, written by advisor Walid Phares.
Get with the program. We’re not against all of Islam, because only one flavor of it is any threat. Choose your words as if you understand this reality.
So what is a legal definition of “religion”, again? Wait, there is none. Never was.
Are sacred books of worshipers of Satan and Flying Spaghetti Monster also protected?
“ Are sacred books of worshipers of Satan and Flying Spaghetti Monster also protected?”
Yes. Because all religions are equal under the government’s view. The government is supposed to be neutral meaning it can’t elevate one religion over the others.
Which government? We’re talking about the Brits here, Georgie, who, iirc, never officially separated church and state. But, feel free to link me a source that says otherwise.
-Rabble
*. If laws exist that identifies pedophilia and a religion engages pedophilia then that exercise is chargeable as are other practices within such including human sacrifice via blood libel.
Obviously the deep State in the UK is converting the population to Islam.
Recommend Douglas Murray. Only the adherents to religion or cult X commit blasphemy and not others. The Koran burner did not commit blasphemy. If a cult member seeks to censor then censorship has been imposed. The cult member has censored by knife slashing which was utilized by a deep State to remove free speech and further imposed lies over truth.
Free speech was punished and nothing else. The slasher is a tool. So, all cults are not equal. Religions are based in reason.
I suppose the purpose of speech and press is to show the error in your thinking. IMO
Satan is a person committed to harm as a principle with refusal to change and is anyone or a collective of criminals knowingly or unknowingly. Spaghetti monster has no moral authority known.
The moral authority of Jesus is to do good, to heal what is wounded, to fix what is broken.
Colorado Rules Jews Must Bake Cake For Terrorist Who Lit Them On Fire
Colorado Woke Press
June 5, 2025 BOULDER, CO — The controversy surrounding a horrific attack over the weekend continued today, as a Colorado court ruled that Jewish victims must bake a cake for the terrorist who lit them on fire.
The ruling, handed down early Monday morning after Sunday’s terrorist attack in which a Muslim illegal alien from Egypt viciously burned Jewish people at a pro-Israel event, mandated that the badly burned victims of the attack bake their assailant a cake within the next 30 days or face consequences.
“Refusal to bake a cake for the man who burned them would be horribly prejudiced,” said District Court Judge Helen Jurgens. “As has been well established here in Colorado, victims of injuries or persecution are obligated by law to cater to their attackers. Typically through cake-baking.”
Several Jewish citizens were badly burned by Egyptian national Mohamed Sabry Soliman, who shouted “Free Palestine” after the attack, prompting the state court to issue the unsolicited emergency order to force the injured individuals to present the terrorist with a cake as soon as possible. “Failure to comply will result in further disciplinary action,” Judge Jurgens continued. “The cake must be made personally by the victims and presented to the terrorist within the allotted time frame. It is the opinion of the court that the cake be something festive, yet tasteful. Chocolate with white frosting. With the Palestinian flag. And sprinkles.”
At publishing time, the burned victims were reportedly facing additional charges for seeking to extinguish the flames that had engulfed them, thereby obstructing the terrorist’s right to freely protest.
Just FYI, you might want to put a link to the Bee article at the bottom, otherwise you’ll have some low-IQ trolls thinking this is real.
-Rabble
Attorney and author Kurt Schlichter expands on the dangerous direction the courts and Roberts are going.
The left already views them with contempt but they [previously] had respect from the right. Now to please the Left they are alienating their last allies in the nation.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2025/06/05/the-courts-are-courting-disaster-by-alienating-conservatives-n2658158
We must preserve and protect out precious, sacred, esteemed, and holy IslamoCommuNazi filth and degenercy, along with our corrupt judges, our system of presstitutes, and our beloved, depraved Dunceocrats.
We must win our Civil War against the oppressive, righteous Christians and Jews and their evil Civilization, which promotes the hated and despised concepts of freedom and liberty.
OFF TOPIC
Here we are six months into 2025, has Hunter Biden paid-back his renowned sugar bro Kevin Morris any of the $4.9 to $6.5 million @5% loan yet?
Makes you wonder where Hunter got the Cash (from Daddy). Or has He forgotten it all like his Dad.
Kevin Morris, a Hollywood entertainment lawyer, has provided significant financial support to Hunter Biden, including loans totaling
at least $6.5 million. This support has reportedly helped Hunter Biden pay off his tax liabilities and personal expenses. The financial relationship between Morris and Biden began in 2020, and the money provided has been described as loans.
Key details about the loans:
Amount: Morris has loaned or given Hunter at least $6.5 million.
Purpose: The money has been used to pay off Hunter Biden’s tax debts, legal fees, housing, car payments, and other expenses.
Repayment: A repayment schedule for the loans is set to begin in 2025, after the next presidential election.
Interest Rate: The loans have an interest rate of 5%.
Forgiveness Possibility: Morris has admitted that the loans could potentially be forgiven.
Controversies and criticisms:
Political Implications: The financial support from Morris has raised questions about whether it constitutes an improper campaign contribution or an attempt to influence President Biden.
Transparency: Republicans have questioned the nature and purpose of the loans, expressing concern about the timing and potential for forgiveness.
Access to White House: Morris has gained access to the Biden White House since providing financial support to Hunter Biden, which has also been scrutinized.
Important note: There is a discrepancy between the reported amount of financial support provided by Morris to Hunter Biden. An IRS agent involved in the tax investigation said Morris spent approximately $4.9 million supporting Biden, while Morris’ lawyer stated the amount was more than $6.5 million.
If the loans are forgiven, then those funds are generally considered taxable income at both the federal and state levels. Hunter Biden may have to declare bankruptcy if the loans are forgiven to try to evade federal and state taxation of those funds.
Where’s Lois Lerner when you need her?
She and her Dog (Toby Miles) retired and enjoys the high-life in a Republican Lifestyle, but maintains that she’s still a Democrat at heart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Lerner
Yo cannot bankrupt taxes dum dum
Even at the lowest amount loaned to Hunter 4.9 @ 5%, this is
[$4,900,000.00 x 0.05 = $245,000.00 per yr. | $245,000/12 months = $20,416.67 per month interest]
6 months into 2025 = $122,500 accrued interest with no reduction of principle.
Maybe Dr. Jill Biden will remortgage the Rehoboth Beach house a 17th time to wash up some cash for Hunter?
Regarding Kevin Morris – NOBODY gives $4.9-$6.5 Million Dollars to a Cocaine Addict whether they are a President’s son or not.
Morris deserves to be in Prison right next to Biden. An Accomplice is an Accomplice, be it fraud and everything else Hunter & Joe did.
Charge him, He’ll talk under Plea Bargain. Then we might get somewhere closer to the bottom of things.
It is VITAL that any critques of Islam beseverely punished with mandatory stiff prison sentences. Muslims are an oppressed terrorist 1.9 billion minority population and anything they could remotely find offensive must be met with severe and long-lasting pain.
This is not to say that any critiques of Jews shoule be punished. Jews should must not only be criticized, but they should be attacked and burned for all sorts of imaginary offenses since they are an 15.8 million minority oppressor population.
Only THE BEE can get it this right:
https://babylonbee.com/news/federal-judge-blocks-deportation-of-terrorists-family-orders-jews-lit-back-on-fire
“Federal judge blocks deportation of terrorist’s family– orders jews lit back on fire.
Young,
They got that right!
75th Anniversary edition of 1984 comes with trigger warnings.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/75th-anniversary-edition-of-1984-contains-trigger-warning-by-american-u-professor
I thought the entire book was a warning. Turns out it’s a How-To-Do-It book for the little totalitarians in our universities.
Is the Canary that protects society from Tyrants still chirping in Marry of London? This should be a warning to America the easiest path to subjugation is denial of speech.
George W
Let’s stop beating around the bush.
Every nation on Earth that desires relations with the United States must be required to adopt and implement the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Get real. The US doesn’t follow it either.
Orwell’s Ministry of Truth: Soviet Russia 1918, Maoist China 1949, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, Fidel Castro’s Cuba, Kier Starmer’s Britain 2025. This is truly a sad day for Britain and Westetn Civilization. Of course, the PC wannabe Philosopher Kings and Queens of the Democratic Party are advocating the same censorship here, and lovers of freedom and liberty must continue to oppose them mightily.
Biden judge of course:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/breaking-biden-judge-blocks-trump-deporting-family-egyptian
Was he really appointed by Biden or by President Autopen?
That is an issue that I would like to see pursued.
We are beginning to see why the federal courts are viewed with contempt.
https://x.com/seanmdav/status/1930364155078328760
Lawyer and author Kurt Schlichter has thoughts on how to handle the judicial coup.
https://x.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1930399714115236187
I am pleased that terms like ‘judicial coup’ and ‘judicial insurrection’ are entering common parlance. The judiciary is burning up its capital with the people at a ferocious rate. Without a new and competent chief justice to quench the flames I doubt its reputation will be restored for many years.
It isn’t just opposition to Trump that smells. Recently the Court declined to hear the case of a student who was punished for wearing a shirt that said “There Are Only Two Genders.” The Court already decided the core issue in the 1969 Tinker decision saying students can wear peace symbols in opposition to war, declaring First Amendment rights are not lost at the schoolhouse door, a sound decision.
Apparently even the Roberts Supreme Court doesn’t respect the decisions of the Court. I was sure they would take such a clear cut, simple case but they cowered.
And they cowered on the Chauvin appeal. And they cowered on challenges to the 2020 election; not ripe, laches, no standing–everything but address the actual issues. Do we even have courts or just allies of the extremists?
Ilya Shapiro has grave concerns about the character of lawyers and future judges that our law schools are turning out…too much Critical Legal Theory and not enough law.
Switching to airbus from boeing couldnt have anything to do with their shit record, eh McInliar? Moron.
The REASON for switching is irrelevant.
The fact is that Boeing loses and Airbus wins.
It sounds like you are glad that Boeing is the loser.
No, it sounds like you are. Just like McInliar is.
And the reason for switching is ALL that is relevant, in the context which it was mentioned dum dum.
He didnt bring it up out of concern for the financial health of Boeing, you imbecile. He imp-LIED that it was just to gig Trump.
Jeezus this place attracts some idiots.
Jonathan: Really? Blasphemy prosecutions in GB? Do you think your faithful followers are really interested in that? Of course, the subject is a convenient distraction from problems back here at home. That’s why I am here.
DJT is apparently having sleepless nights trying to figure out what went wrong with his economic policies. At 2:00 am this morning he posted this: “I like President XI of China, always have, and always will, but he is VERY TOUGH, AND ESTREMELY HARD TO MAKE A DEAL WITH!!!” DJT can’t figure out why XI didn’t cave after the 134% tariffs were imposed. Now when TACO was the one to back down and reduced the tariffs to 30% XI still won’t call DJT. And the empty cargo containers keep piling up at the Port of Long Beach!
And to make matters worse Pres. XI is poking DJT in the eye. China announced it is considering ordering hundreds of Airbus jets from France instead of planes made by Boeing. French President Macron is grateful and he and German Chancellor Merz are planning a trip to Bejing in July to mark 50 years of diplomatic relations with China. It seems the rest of the world is giving TACO the middle finger!
Things are not looking bright for the Trumpster–particularly the job numbers. Private sector employment rose by only 37,000 last month. Contrast that with job growth during the Biden years. Between 2021 through 2024 the economy added about 16.6 million jobs, or about 339,000 per month! In about 4 months DJT has managed to send the economy into a tailspin and reverse the gains under Biden. No wonder DJT is not getting much sleeps most nights!
Free speech is a focus of this blog and Turley constantly writes about free speech issues in other countries.
And yet, every poster including you post on non-free speech topics and long drawn out ramblings and grievances. Trump’s economic policiew are awful and the rest of the world knows it. China is reaping the benefits of it’s economic strength and stability. Comparing it to Trump’s unstable moods and irrational “negotiation” tactics China is looking like the better bet and it’s working.
Says the moron who predicts a negative GDP growth for Q2, when we are already more than 2/3 of the way thru Q2, and the models show a track for 4.6%.
Now he’s and expert on China’s economy as well.
Extra! Extra, Trump posted at 2am !
The world is not coming to an end.
If Trump did NOT post at 2am that might be news.
This administration is involved in tough negotiations across the world.
Something the prior administration did NOT do at all.
Trump could lose ALL of them and still be doing better than democrats.
But that is not what is occuring.
With China Trump is arguing from a position of strength.
Of everything in Trump’s post that I care about, what would be most important was DID TRUMP ACTUALLY TALK TO XI ?
China is opaque, but has LOTS of problems – many reliable sources claim there is a power stuggle going on in the CCP,
There are rumors Xi had a stroke a year ago. There are rumors that he is under house arrest. There are a whole plethora of rumors about China.
There is LOTS of evidence for most of them, but not proof.
I do not care what Trump says about negotiations, or about Xi other than – did he actually talk with Xi ?
“ With China Trump is arguing from a position of strength.”
ROLF! No he’s not. He’s practically begging China to make a deal. Trump stands to lose more than China. TACO was coined because Trump has shown he has chickened out multiple times and never stuck to his supposedly non-negotiable position on tariffs. Only to backtrack and relent when things get tough.
Trump WANTS Xi to talk to him and Xi won’t until Trump rolls over. He’s already done so hoping Xi will give him something. Xi wisely has stood his ground and because Trump is so weak on his negotiating postition Xi knows all he has to do is wait. China can make better deals with the EU, other Asian nations, and still come out ahead. China has the manufacturing capability to recover from any serious downturn compared to the U.S. We don’t have the cababiliy to manufacture our way back to economic prosperity. Not any time soon.
John,
Bill Oreilly just got back from China and spoke to a delegation of CCP officials at their request.
He said they respect strength and were appalled at Biden’s weakness. They have zero respect for him. They were perplexed at the open border and how we allow chaos in our cities and won’t prosecute criminals.
They respect Donald Trump’s strength but are concerned about his unpredictability concerning trade.
You can read about his trip on his website or watch him on YouTube.
If Xi has not called Trump it might be because Xi is not in charge anymore.
“the empty cargo containers keep piling up at the Port of Long Beach!”
My Ali Express order arrived yesterday. I was able to get the same things I bought a year ago for a lower price (china is suffering from deflation).
The world would not end if I had to pay twice as much, but so far I have not seen any price increases.
But if I had – I would not care much. For the few critical things – I would pay,. for the rest I won;t buy if the price is too high.
That is how he free market works.
DHL TS
China has not called Trump because they don’t have to.
They are waiting for him to call them.
They don’t have to negotiate on tariffs.
They hold all the cards.
They have the upper hand.
They can afford to hardball on tariffs.
As Elon Musk has correctly pointed out, the Chinese economy is much bigger than the US as measured by PPP adjusted GDP.
Here is what Musk said on April 28:
“This comes as a surprise to most people. In 2025, based on purchasing power parity (PPP), China’s GDP is estimated at approximately $35.29 trillion, surpassing the United States’ GDP of $28.78 trillion. Europe’s GDP (European Union, 27 member states) is estimated at around $21.99 trillion in PPP terms.
Thus, China’s economy is about 1.23 times larger than the U.S. economy and roughly 1.60 times larger than the EU’s economy when measured by PPP.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917039955257528782
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-says-come-surprise-212616187.html
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The Chinese economy is also in much better shape than the US economy.
That leftist, communist, globalist organization known as Goldman Sachs released their economic projections recently.
Goldman Sachs released a research report on May 13, in which it decided to raise its forecast for China’s GDP growth in 2025 by 0.6 percentage points, elevating it from 4 percent to 4.6 percent.
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2025-05-31/Major-investment-banks-raise-2025-China-economic-growth-forecasts-1DORIInOosU/p.html#:~:text=Goldman%20Sachs%20released%20a%20research,4%20percent%20to%204.6%20percent.
Goldman Sachs Research economists recently lowered their forecast for real US GDP growth to 1.7% year-on-year by the end of the 2025 financial year, down from 2.2% previously.https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/the-sp-500-may-rise-less-than-expected-as-gdp-growth-slows
China: GDP growth projection RAISED to 4.6%.
US: GDP growth projection LOWERED to 1.7%
So which economy is doing better ????
The Chinese economy is bigger and doing better than the US economy.
This is why China can afford to play hardball over tariffs.
We need China much more than China needs us.
China knows this, but unfortunately the dimwit in the Whitehouse does not
understand this and does not have the mental capacity to understand
this.
China just has to wait until the shelves at Walmart, Target and Home Depot are bare, then Trump will cave as he ALWAYS does.
Yawn
He’s not wrong. China has the ability to out-wait the U.S. and Trump’s fear of being blamed for bare shelves and higher prices will force him to cave early and blame Biden.
Boeing is losing out to Airbus already. That’s not good. Plus, in a couple of years China could very well be building it’s own airliners and compete with Airbus and Boeing.
Whenever someone uses the state-run mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party as their “news” source is either a certified idiot who doesn’t know any better (and for that, they will have my pity). Or a wumao (also known as a member of the 50 Cent Army) who’s getting paid by the CCP to spew their propaganda and should be ignore to the ends of this planet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Global_Television_Network
China has been an economic miracle over the past 50 years.
There is an excellent book by one of the greatest economists of the past century – Ronald Coase – “How China became capitalist”.
It is an excellent read.
But the book ends in 2013 – the year Xi came to power and China has changed radically since then.
The left rants about fascism – China is the most fascist country in the world today – possibly as much as Nazi Germany
Further – though no matter what China’s economy over the past 50 years is phenomenal.
Their economy and govenrment is Opaque, the numbers can not be trusted.
They have admitted to miscalculating their own population by 100M people.
China claims strong growth in 2025, but their own reports on govenrment revenue show that has DROPPED – strongly suggesting China is in recession and not admitting it. Since Xi their economy has been massively debt fueled and that does not end well.
We do not know the truth about China.
But we do know that ATS’s claim is full of schiff.
John Say, all you need to do is look how China is doing. They have shown incredible progress as you succinctly point out. Trump is trying to cook the books and make it look like we are doing better, but reality on the ground is a whole different picture.
Our own investment firms acknowledge the strength of the Chinese economy and they know that China is a manufacturing powerhouse that we cannot compete with with. We never will.
You should read “China and apple”. It shows how WE created the China that we are dealing with today. We are directly responsible for our own economic manufacturing demise. China has the skills, supply chains, resources, and education to far surpass our own economy twice over in a few more years.
Let’s not kids ourselves, China is set to become the world’s new superpower champion as long as Trump is in office. Even you can’t help but to be impressed by China’s rapid progress and pace of innovation. We are more concerned with making more money. They are concerned with how to improve their society and despite being a communist government they have embraced capitalism and have been willing to learn from their past mistakes like attacking elites, intellectuallism, and other things that Mao originally promoted. We are doing exactlly what Mao wanted and it’s showing how it was a failure, China is doing what we should have been doing years ago.
“China is doing what we should have been doing years ago.”
The idiot George thinks that nations are pieces on a Risk board.
What good is “China” when her people suffer.
This is not about who has the biggest economy. For what? Bragging rights?
Does the mother dressing her kid for school in The Netherlands, care that the US has been the “Superpower” for the last 70 years? No.
As long as the standard of living in China sucks ass, they are nothing. As long as the people there are ruled with an iron fist, they are nothing.
And so far, you spew nothing but your own uninformed opinion, as though you have ANY idea whats going on in China.
You think China is so great, why arent you there?
* When that happens I guess Americans will need to produce their own goods but they won’t. They’ll import Okra from Guatemala and seafood from Vietnam and spices from Lesotho…blah blah
HEY DUMB ANON 2nd QUARTER US GDP expected 4.6% MAYBE you got thte numbers backwards!!
ATS – when all this nonsense blows up in your face – as have ALL the other idiotic claims of left wing nuts on pretty much everything are you going to have learned anything ?
“The Chinese economy is also in much better shape than the US economy.”
Because of magic ? They have a declining population – only Japan is ahead of them in population decline, and China’s decline is more rapid,
Japan has experienced 3 decades of stagnant growth and has debt over 200% of GDP all atleast partly because of population decline.
But also because it becomes increasingly harder to compete with the US economically the higher your standard of living rises.
China can not continue to hold a competitive advantage due to lower wages – because they standard of living – thought still only 1/3 of the US is massively higher than it was in 1974. China is now fighting to keep from losing low end goods production to the rest of Asia.
Starting BEFORE Trump production has been shifting – either to automated factories in the US, to Mexico, or to the rest of Asia.
China has only avoided disaster so far because the global economy has been growing.
Regardless given China’s greater energy problems, poorer transportation system – nearly all production in China is near the coasts, a significant portion of it is for export. Transportation of goods and raw materials inside china is poor. Further everything made in china must be transported accross the pacific, While shipping is the cheapest way to transport goods – no matter where they go, they must come off a ship and be transported in the country by trucks or train.
So the shipping costs are an add on to the cost of all Chinese goods.
“Goldman Sachs released a research report on May 13, in which it decided to raise its forecast for China’s GDP growth in 2025 by 0.6 percentage points, elevating it from 4 percent to 4.6 percent.”
Goldman Sachs has not been right about most of its projections of anyone in a long time.
The good news is their own people do NOT invest based on their own claims and projections.
As I noted about – China is likely in a recession BEFORE tariffs.
Rosy claims about China are WORSE than the idiots who in the 80’s thought Japan was going to supplant the US as the dominant world economy.
China has many of the same problems today as Japan in the 90’s – except much WORSE.
“So which economy is doing better ????” The US – hand down.
I would Note that Chines Growth has been higher than that of the US for the past 50 years.
A bit over a decade ago the US and China were purportedly at near pariity in GDP, Today, the US GDP is 50% larger than China.
Further in the past decade US standard of living has risen FASTER than that of China.
Anyone who is not a moron can figure out that SOMETHING is off.
“The Chinese economy is bigger and doing better than the US economy.”
ROFL
The math to support your claims does not work. For your claim that China’s GDP/PPP is significantly larger than the US, the stnadard of living in China would have to be several times higher than it actually is.
China has done incredibly well over the past 50 years.
They have gone from the bottom of the 3rd world to the bottom of the 1st world.
But they are still 54th in the world in standard of living.
I would note that of ALL the data that you and I have been bandying about – standard of living is the only one that matters.
A higher standard of living means more ability of the people as a whole to afford more luxuries.
Which ALSO means more ability for the people as a whole to FORGO luxuries for a while.
“This is why China can afford to play hardball over tariffs.”
Yet even if your claims were not bogus – they still do NOT prove what you claim.
The US has a higher per capita GDP – a country’s total GDP divided by its population – sitting at $86,000 USD. In comparison, China’s per-capita GDP is just $13,445 USD, highlighting the lower income level per person in the country.Mar 14, 2025″
BTW China’s per capita GDP 10 years ago was about 11K/year – that is NOT this 5%/yr growth that China has been claiming under Xi.
“We need China much more than China needs us.
China knows this, but unfortunately the dimwit in the Whitehouse does not
understand this and does not have the mental capacity to understand
this.”
On issue after issue – you have claimed Trump and the rest of us are all morons and you are right.
You claimed that Russia won the 2016 election for Trump and that he colluded with Russia.
That was a HOAX manufactured by Clinton.
You claimed Biden was competent
You claimed Trump was going to lose in 2024
You claimed that the Hunter Biden laptop was russian disinformation.
And on and on and on.
“Guys, can we cut it out? Donald Trump is not an idiot. Let me just be very clear. Donald Trump is smarter than me, you, and all of his critics,
“You know how I know? Because he has the White House, the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court, the popular vote,
There’s just no arguing with his success, winning a presidential election in the face of overt mainstream media hostility and other huge headwinds,
He has a massive media ecosystem, bigger than the mainstream, built around him, and for him, and a religious fervor in a political movement around him. And his best buddy is the richest person in the history of the world, and the most relevant Kennedy is with him,
The Democrats’ strategy of hostility toward Mr. Trump and contempt for his supporters is just a losing formula”
Van Jones CNN
People who succeed in ONE endeavor are very smart. People who succeed in 2 or three are geniuses.
Trump has succeeded in residential realestate. Comerical real estate. Hospitality, entertainment, beauty pagents, golf, casino’s
international real estate, social media, crypto, and politics
No one manages that unless they are a genius. Trump’s IQ is unlikely to be lower than 145 – probably much higher.
There are very very few people with IQ’s in that range.
I would note that the strongest correlation in social science is the correlation between success and IQ.
There is not another claim that social science makes that is more robust.
No Trump is NOT a dimwit. But those betting against him are.
I noted China’s problems – and they are very severe. Again my fear regarding China is that they will start a real war.
Not that will survive a trade war.
If I were advising Trump it would not be this stupid idiocy that China will win a trade war – that is just total horse$hit.
It is that China losing a trade war could easily result in a hot war.
Biden was VERY stupid to provoke Russia resulting in the Ukraine war.
China is less politically and economically stable than Russia.
And no – economic stability and GDP – no matter how you measure it are not the same thing.
“China just has to wait until the shelves at Walmart, Target and Home Depot are bare, then Trump will cave as he ALWAYS does.”
When do you left wing nuts get tired of being wrong.
Walmart could take a hit.
Target could take a hit.
But WHAT asside from groceries that are NOT made in china do Walmart and Target sell that are necessities ?
As to Home Depot ? Are you nuts ? The US does not import building materials – lumber etc. We export them.
Certainly there are a few things on the shelves at Home Deport made in China, but not a lot.
If Tomorow you could not buy anything from China – how EXACTLY would that impact you ?
China makes alot of things that americans buy. There are not very many things China makes that americans NEED.
Conversely a significant portion of US exports are raw materials or food. Other countries can not reduce their consumption of those and keep their economies running.
John Say, you must be desperate. China’s population is in the billion range. They also no longer have the one child policy. You cite no sources for your claims which means you are just making things up. China’s transportations system is multiples better than ours. They have the world’s biggest high speed train network, the most EV’s They make more cars, They represent the biggest market for airline growth, etc.
We IMPORT most of our lumber from Canada. The majority of materials and tools we use in home construction come from China.
“ When do you left wing nuts get tired of being wrong.
Walmart could take a hit.
Target could take a hit.”
The operative word here is “could”. Walmart is not going to take a hit and neither is Target. They can take a hit only for so long and they are already warning consumers that prices will rise. They can’t hold off on “eating the tariffs” much longer. Once it’s starts hitting their profit margins they will start to pass on those costs to consumers. We will be paying for the tariffs.
“ If I were advising Trump it would not be this stupid idiocy that China will win a trade war – that is just total horse$hit.“
China has more leverage than we do. Trump is too stupid to understand that China can wait out the U.S. on the tariff stalemate. We don’t have the capacity to withstand a long term rise in prices and loss of critical consumer products. China can. Their population has substantial savings in their banks and can weather any economic downturn than we do. We don’t have a population with substantial savings to fall back on in case things get bad. The pain will be severe here. It will be bareable there.
“ People who succeed in ONE endeavor are very smart. People who succeed in 2 or three are geniuses.
Trump has succeeded in residential realestate. Comerical real estate. Hospitality, entertainment, beauty pagents, golf, casino’s
international real estate, social media, crypto, and politics
No one manages that unless they are a genius. Trump’s IQ is unlikely to be lower than 145 – probably much higher.
There are very very few people with IQ’s in that range.”
ROFL!
Trump is a moron. Correlation is not causation. Trump’s real estate “genius” stems from cheating and lying on forms. Not because he is smart. He can barely read and understand what’s handed to him to sign.
Your gullibility about Trump’s “genius” does sound desperate.
Trump caves the moment things get tough. Every single time. That’s why TACO has stuck. Trump will cave when shelves become bare and prices start to rise on everything. When his own supporters start complaining about higher prices and bare shelves he’s going to cave and try to save face by making it look like he “negotiated” a deal with China.
Don’t kid yourself. China knows what it’s doing. Trump has no idea what he’s doing. We have already experienced a GDP contraction, private employers are hiring less, people are putting off major purchases, and consumer sentiment is tanking. Trump is already cooking the books like the farming report because the numbers don’t look favorable.
Trump will cave as he always does and China knows it. A real negotiator wouldn’t cave every time things get tough. Have you seen China cave on any of Trump’s demands? No. TACO is a thing and Trump seems to have earned it well.
“You cite no sources for your claims which means you are just making things up.”
Says the fiction writer who NEVER cites a source. By the way, a book of someone elses opinion is not a source.
I thought you were smart enough to look it up yourself, Georgie?
Trump can blockade them, as sure as if they were warships. Freedom stops at the oceans edge. No serious country tells another serious country “I’m shipping it and you are accepting it.”.
You can get the drug houses in India are retooling to fill in the supply.
China can’t feed itself, they produce less than 70% of what they consume. Guess who sells them lots of food
You are right. China imports about 70% of its food.
But I don’t have to guess where they get there food.
By far the biggest supplier is Brazil. They supply almost twice as much as the US.
In fact the US supplies less than 20% of the food that China needs to import.
The other big suppliers are Indonesia, New Zealand and Thailand.
In fact New Zealand has been all over China’s supply problem since Trump started this insanity.
New Zealand has a population of 5 million people, but they produce enough food to feed 40 million people. They alone can make up a significant amount of any shortfall from the US.
The US has no bargaining power with regard to food supplied to China. China has the upper hand and they know it. Farmers have been complaining that many Chinese orders have been cancelled.
China recently cancelled $45 billion in orders for agricultural goods and farmers are complaining bitterly.
China does not NEED to import food from the US.
They have plenty of other options. Other countries like New Zealand are falling over themselves to rush to make up the already cancelled orders from China.
The fact that China is currently cancelling orders for food from the US shows that they have the upper hand in any trade negotiations.
Trump is too stupid to understand this.
The long term outlook is that if other countries take advantage of this situation and get a foot in the door, then there is no reason for China to ever return to the US for food.
ATS
Food is a global commodity.
Chinese Tariffs on US food will have no effect – they did not have much effect back in the first term.
Why ? China does NOT need to buy food from the US. But it DOES need to buy food.
If they do not buy from the US – then whoever is now supplying China, will not be able to supply whoever they were selling to before.
The US is one of the worlds largest exporters of food. And no sane country places high tarriffs on food imports.
“In fact New Zealand has been all over China’s supply problem since Trump started this insanity.”
I am sure they have. But the food that NZ sells to China they can not sell elsewhere and it takes a long time to double food production.
“New Zealand has a population of 5 million people, but they produce enough food to feed 40 million people. They alone can make up a significant amount of any shortfall from the US.”
They can – by selling to China what they would have sold to someone else, who then will buy from the US.
“The US has no bargaining power with regard to food supplied to China.”
Correct, and China has no leverage from refusing to buy US food or placing high tarriffs on it.
All that is happening regarding food is a change of who buys from who.
Nothing else. Further- aside from China no food importer would be insane enough to tariff highly food imports.
The fact is most of what the US produces – raw materials, food, comodities are things the rest of the world can not do without.
They are also items that no country can scale up production by more than a few percent in a year so US goods will be purchased no matter what.
Conversely China makes things people want but do not need.
You are completely wrong about who has leverage.
There is some serious danger to some of what Trump is doing.
China could start a real war. The economies of the rest of the world including China are very weak at the moment. This could easily trigger a global recession.
And while the US would be the least harmed, there are no winnners in a global recession.
“China has the upper hand and they know it. Farmers have been complaining that many Chinese orders have been cancelled.
China recently cancelled $45 billion in orders for agricultural goods and farmers are complaining bitterly.
China does not NEED to import food from the US.
They have plenty of other options. Other countries like New Zealand are falling over themselves to rush to make up the already cancelled orders from China.”
Correct, but if China buys food elsewhere, they are buying food that would have gone to another country.
Food is a global comodity. You can rearrange where it goes. But you can not increase global food production enough to impact US farmers.
Farmers are complaining – because complaining in Trump’s first term got them money for nothing.
But the FACT is they sold everything they produced.
“The fact that China is currently cancelling orders for food from the US shows that they have the upper hand in any trade negotiations.”
No it just shows that food is a global comodity.
But there is no large surplus of food globally. All that is changing is WHO buys from WHO.
Not who is able to sell food.
“Trump is too stupid to understand this.”
You do not understand how global food works.
I will bet Trump does.
“The long term outlook is that if other countries take advantage of this situation and get a foot in the door, then there is no reason for China to ever return to the US for food.”
Again True – but NZ is not going to instantly produce 20% more food, much less 200%.
Your just re-arranging the chairs and you do not understand that.
“ You are completely wrong about who has leverage.”
So show us what leverage Trump has over China?
“ Conversely China makes things people want but do not need.”
So? Isn’t that how the free market works? We make things China wants but doesn’t need. We make a lot of things we don’t need but do end up wanting anyways and so does China.
“ The fact is most of what the US produces – raw materials, food, comodities are things the rest of the world can not do without.”
Such as?…. Most of the raw materials we supposedly provide are also produced elsewhwere. Wood? Canada. Bauxite ore to make aluminum? Canada, Africa, Australia. Copper? Africa, China, Russia. Beef? Brazil, Argentina, Canada.
What do we export that the world cannot find elsewhere? Military weapons. But….They rely on rare earth metals that China can has a monopoly on processing.
A lot of people ignore Africa where there are ample minerals and resources that China has successfully exploited. Africa may be the next big investment in manufacturing in the future. We once though China as a backwards third world nation. Now they are on track to surpass even the U.S. In just 50 short years.
“ They are also items that no country can scale up production by more than a few percent in a year”
China has the capacity to scale up anything. They have shown that time after time. They have the manpower and manufacturing knowledge to scale up anything. We don’t. Look how they managed to lower the price of solar panels, cars, textiles, electronics, renewable energy infrastrucure, etc. They have shown the world they can build a 30 story building in two weeks. They can build highway interchanges in months instead of years like we do. You’re seriously underestimating China’s capacity to outmanufacture and build things compared to us. We cannot compete and perhps never will. Too many investors value profits over capability. Trump is more focused on maintaining racial dominance instead of improving our society.
“New Zealand has a population of 5 million people, but they produce enough food to feed 40 million people.”
Look at the Rain Man, at it again.
The idiot thinks that 40 million is more than a drop in the bucket for ONE BILLION
This is what happens when one mindlessly cuts and pastes.
CHINA? They don’t suffer fools gladly. They just financed the megadam in Ethiopia on the blue nile with Italian engineering and nevermind the two gorges dam on the Yangtze that is the biggest in the world containing so much water it changed the earth rotation slowing it by a few milliseconds. CHINA slows time and earth’s rotation. It may cause earthquakes no one really knows…
Let us all know when you’ve figured out what a woman is and which bathroom to use you fools.
“As Elon Musk has correctly pointed out, the Chinese economy is much bigger than the US as measured by PPP adjusted GDP.”
If what Elon Musk had said is true, then how come the people of China can’t afford food, let alone cheap fruit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAtXjWQ04o
The only reason why you and Elon Musk stupidly believe that is because the amount people China have vs the US. The Chinese people have the tendency to save their money for when there are hard times (and that’s something the Chinese people are all to familiar with). Whereas us Americans have the tendency to spend their money. That’s why our economy is greater than China’s. Oh and by the way, the Chinese economy is collapsing. Their economy is collapsing faster than a house of cards.
^^ yeah, it’s workforce is 4 x bigger. I can’t stand chinese goods. No one knows what’s in it and everything is circular? Perseus has only 1 winged shoe.
“China has not called Trump because they don’t have to.
They are waiting for him to call them.
They don’t have to negotiate on tariffs.
They hold all the cards.
They have the upper hand.
They can afford to hardball on tariffs.”
ROFL
Exports to the US are conservatively 25% of their economy, more likely they are arround 1/3 of their economy if we count the amount they tranship through other countries.
Would a totoal shutdown of Trade between the US and China harm the US – absolutely
Would it harm china much more – absolutely.
“As Elon Musk has correctly pointed out, the Chinese economy is much bigger than the US as measured by PPP adjusted GDP.”
I have no idea what Musk said but your statement is NONSENSE
Wikipedia has US GDP are 30.51T China is 19. 23
The GDP/PPP claim is completely Bogus – and obviously so
US GDP per person is 82K
China GDP per person is 12K
For even Equality on a GDP/PPP basis China would have to have an economy deflated by a factor of 7 compared to the US.
The Chinese standard of living is 54th in the world.
The US has the 8th ranked standard of living in the world.
We have serious problems with Data from China – they are incredibly opaque.
But We KNOW they have incredibly serious economic problems.
Since Xi took power they have debt financed growth, and it is likely their Debt is much Higher than the US.
We KNOW they have a Housing bubble that is about 16T in size – for comparison Case Shiller estimated the size of he US housing bubble in 2008 at 55B,
Do you really think a country with a GDP of 19T is going to easily manage a 16T housing bibble ?
But that is far from the worst economic problem China faces.
They are solidly into a demographic disaster that it is too late to fix. They have the oldest population of a consequential country in the world and the lowest birth rate. No nation survies that kind of drop in population.
You can not make an economy work with a significantly declining population.
All these problems predate Trump, they even predate Trump in 2016.
The REAL concern regarding China is NOT that everything is wrong and they have a strong economy – they do NOT.
The real concern is that they do as they have done in the past and as other nations with serious domestic problem do and “wag the dog” – they start a war to distract their population from their failures.
With respect to their current economy – They CLAIM that they have had to revise 2025 growth down to 3%. But reported government revenues are DECLINING not growing. China is likely in recession – and likely a reasonable bad one right now. The US is not.
China probably has not had a recession since Mao died.
Regardless the debt fueled economic model since Xi took power is failing
Tariffs are NOT going to destroy china. That is likely happening regardless, Though Tariffs may accelerate the process.
Regardless, the US’s concern right now should NOT be economic defeat by China – that is laughable.
China’s economy is dependant on US trade.
The US economy benefits from Chinese trade, Those are not the same.
China is counting on the possibility that Americans are much less willing to tolerate economic inconvenience than the Chinese are willing to tolerate real economic pain.
“This comes as a surprise to most people. In 2025, based on purchasing power parity (PPP), China’s GDP is estimated at approximately $35.29 trillion, surpassing the United States’ GDP of $28.78 trillion. Europe’s GDP (European Union, 27 member states) is estimated at around $21.99 trillion in PPP terms.
Thus, China’s economy is about 1.23 times larger than the U.S. economy and roughly 1.60 times larger than the EU’s economy when measured by PPP.”
Whoever is providing those numbers does not pass the laugh test.
It is somewhat possible that China’s GDP on a purchasing power parity basis is higher than it is on a straight dollar basis – the cost of living in China is mostly lower than the US – but it is NOT a factor of 7 lower. That is not only absurd but it is impossible.
I would also note that even if True – which it clearly is not – that would make the Chinese economy MORE vulnerable not less.
That would mean that the value of a US dollar in China was 7 times what it is in the US, Which would mean that small fluctations in US trade would be devastating.
If you beleive the Chinese economy is solid – why doesn;’t China allow the Yuan on the open market ? Why doesn’t China allow the free flow of cash to and from the country ?
Nearly anyone can trivially answer that – Capital flight. Given the ability to do so all capital would flow out of China nearly immediately.
If your claims were True – China would be able to replace the dollar as the worlds reserve currency.
But they can not. Becoming the global reserve currency requires your currnecy to float on the world market, if requires it to be able to move easily anywhere it wants.
Again China will not allow that – because thir economy is not strong enough and China KNOWS this.
With respect to the EU the EU GDP is $20T. They have about 550M people compared to 350M in the US.
And the standard of living overal is about 30% lower than the US – yes there are a few tiny countries with slightly higher standard of living than the US but all the large countries and most of the small countries have a lower standard of living.
The EU has a population decline problem – like China’s but not nearly as bad.
They have also had abysmal economic growth for decades.
They are almost certainly in recession due tot he Ukraine war and energy costs FAR higher than the US.
I would note the EU has already told China to F#$K Off regarding buying more goods from China.
They did not do this because they love Trump.
They did this because they can not afford to buy more from China.
The US is reindustrializing. We can debate whether a rapid reindustrializtion is a good thing, But it is far better than deindustrializing.
the EU is deindustrializing. They do not have the population nor can they competitively continue to make the goods they are exporting.
It is always possible to play games with numbers.
But any claim that China or the EU have consequential leverage in trade deals is nonsense.
Nor is this “my view” – there are numerous China and EU analysts on the net, I am not aware of a single one that thinks substantially differently from what I have said above.
In addition to their housing bubble there is purportedly a massive Car bubble in China. They are selling vehicles below cost with subsidies and STILL unable to sell all of what is made. They have weirdness going on now with 0km used cars. These are new cars that did not sell that are then sold as used cars at vastly reduced prices – and this is driving the price of new cars down. Further quality control is going to crap.
Again China’s economy was in trouble BEFORE tariffs.
“… “the empty cargo containers keep piling up at the Port of Long Beach!” …”
Hurray! , finally I might be able to afford a Container Home of my own.
“If Xi has not called Trump it might be because Xi is not in charge anymore.”
More than likely, he’s not. More than likely, Xi is out.
Its china – we can get a sense that thing are bad.
But we will not know how bad until they go to h311.
The best data we have on China is indirect.
China claims near 5% GDP growth.
But tax revenues reported are declining – that probably means China is in recession.
“ If Xi has not called Trump it might be because Xi is not in charge anymore.”
Fantasy is no excuse. You provide no source for your claims and they do reek of desperation. Xi is under no obligation to call Trump. Trump is in no position to negotiate, he has no leverage. Using threats and voiding visas of Chinese students is not helping at all. China’s position has remained unchanged. Trump has already shown he is incapable of exercising patience or discipline and that’s why he’s earned the the TACO nickname. Nobody takes him seriously. Not even Putin. Ukraine’s recent drone attacks on Russia’s strategic bomber fleet is a good example of how Trump is not really in control of anything or knows what he’s gotten himself into. There is no defense of Trump’s incompetence and non-existent “negotiating” skills. It’s a farce worthy of mockery and ridicule and China is just letting Trump dig himself deeper into the hole he created.
“ My Ali Express order arrived yesterday. I was able to get the same things I bought a year ago for a lower price (china is suffering from deflation).”
That’s because most retailers stockpiled products in anticipation of the tariffs and the eventual reduction of goods from China. They have a few months worth of inventory to cushion any changes, but once that inventory starts to dwindle things will change in a hurry and prices will start to trickle up.
China is just waiting for the U.S. to burn through it’s current inventory. When it becomes apparent that things will be painful for American consumers Trump will relent as he always does. It will take weeks or months to resume shipments and inventory re-stocks. The free market will show just how much we rely on China than they rely on us.
“China announced it is considering ordering hundreds of Airbus jets from France instead of planes made by Boeing. French President Macron is grateful and he and German Chancellor Merz are planning a trip to Bejing in July to mark 50 years of diplomatic relations with China.”
Airbus also makes jets in the US. But I guess you missed that.
Regardless, you seem to think this is important.
You cherry pick the less than great numbers – yet the predicted recession has NOT occurred.
We are STILL trying to shed the damage from 4 disasterous years of Biden.
BTW in OTHER recent reports – REAL INCOME has risen dramatically since January.
Multiple Trump SCOTUS victories.
I suspect that SCOTUS does NOT wish to tank nationwide injunctions – though there is a huge problem with bogus ones right now, there are rare legitimate reasons for them.
Instead SCOTUS is just burning improvidently granted preliminary injunctions.
SCOTUS said Trump can fire whoever he wants.
SCOTUS said Trump can revoke TPS status.
SCOTUS said DOGE’s actions were fine.
An apeals court undid the CIT court ruling you fawned over.
And that is just the wins I can remember.
BTW according to statista the jobs gain was 11M not 16 – that is less than the total illegal immigrants.
Also according to Statista Trump has increased total employment by 1M in the past 100+ days.
It is currently 163M the highest ever.
While it should be increasing so long as population is increasing.
More importantly employment is not showing signs of recession.
“in about 4 months DJT has managed to send the economy into a tailspin and reverse the gains under Biden.”
Only in your dreams
Contra claims of the left Trump’s polling is solid floating between 50-53,
While democrats are in a slow decline I think they are down to 26 now.
Trump is negotiating possibly hundreds of deals world wide.
If he lost every one that would be better than Biden.
Mr. McIntyre reminds me SO MUCH of Jessica Tarlov ……. A stage of TDS-progression that few have reached. It’s as if reality doesn’t play a role.
16 MILLION jobs from Biden?? HA HA HA about 4 million!! The other 12 Million came from jobs FROZEN by COVID- same jobs with the same people holding them. 16 MILLION is a JOKE DENNIS!! REMEMBER when 818,000 jobs had to be reversed downward? Biden clamimed them and they weren’t there!!
Biden added exactly 85,000 jobs
All of them IRS agents.
Dennis is a liar living in a dream world.
Denny: “DJT is apparently having sleepless nights trying to figure out what went wrong with his economic policies. At 2:00 am this morning he posted this: “I like President XI of China, always have, and always will, but he is VERY TOUGH, AND ESTREMELY HARD TO MAKE A DEAL WITH!!!””
First of all, it’s spelt “extremely,” not “estremely.” I thought you lefties are supposed to be intelligent. As for Xi “playing hard to get,” Xi have to. Xi have to save face. Otherwise, he will appear as being weak in front of the Chinese people. And if that happens, the Chinese Communist Party will lose their legitimacy to rule over the Chinese people and China.
Denny: “DJT can’t figure out why XI didn’t cave after the 134% tariffs were imposed. Now when TACO was the one to back down and reduced the tariffs to 30% XI still won’t call DJT. And the empty cargo containers keep piling up at the Port of Long Beach!”
Except they did caved. LOL Why else would Chinese officials from China’s Ministry of Commerce was seen entering the Treasury Department building back in late April?
https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/25331291
From the article after translating it into English:
“Chinese officials strongly blocked a reporter who was about to film a high-ranking official entering the U.S. Treasury building this morning. The reporter said that he had “no authority to stop the freedom of the press,” but a Chinese official said, “We have the right to refuse to take pictures of our personnel,” and demanded that all photos taken on his smartphone be removed.”
Obviously, those Chinese officials failed. And knowing that puts a smile on my face.
Oh and there aren’t any empty cargo containers at the Port of Long Beach. Because they aren’t any containers there, they are all stuck in a Chinese port, with nowhere to go.
“Ports of LA, Long Beach already seeing 44% drop in docked vessels” – NBCLosAngeles
From the article: “The two ports, which moved 20 million containers last year, are showing a 44% drop in docked vessels in the week of May 4 compared to last year.”
So why would there be empty cargo containers at either ports if there’s nothing to be shipped from China?
Denny: “And to make matters worse Pres. XI is poking DJT in the eye. China announced it is considering ordering hundreds of Airbus jets from France instead of planes made by Boeing.”
Why in the world China buy airliners from France when China have their own aircraft manufacturer?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac
My best guess is that Xi want to replace his own personal plane since Xi’s current plane is an Airbus. We will have to wait and see if the deal goes through. But then again when it comes to the CCP, them keeping their end of a deal and fulfilling it, you have a better chance at teaching a fish how to breathe air.
* ^^^ Time zones.
Dennis
I doubt Trump is losing sleep.
I am sure he is happy.
Macron got slapped by his wife,
His approval is higher than Obama’s at the same pint in his term.
Things are going reasonable well for him in the supreme court.
And when they don’t Democrats actually lose when they win.
A federal judge blocked the deportation of the egyption parents of the terrorist that attacked in Colorado.
Those of you on the left do not seem to understand that if Trump wins the lawfare you wage against him americans are happy with Trump and angry with you.
If he loses – americans are happy with Trump and even angrier with you.
Aparently we have another Laken Reilly – killed by an illegal alein criminal that Biden let in that Trump can not get out. This was inevitable, and it will repeat over and over.
Trump’s approval has been a solid 53 for over a week – this is when you claimed it was going to h311.
I could not possibly list all the things going Trump’s way – the post would be far too long.
Regardless all your posts explaining how reality is different from actual facts are tremendously entertaining.
Further if you are the best the left can do for argument – Republicans will rule for decades.
Dennis,
Obviously you feel like you have much to say about DJT. I have a suggestion, start your own blog. You can pick whatever subject you like. You can even eat your dessert first if you want.
It is a very simple process and Word Press will help you. It is not expensive.
Professor Turley discovered this phenomenon and he can select whatever topic he cares to address
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Our resident economist George said earlier this year that “the economy after January belongs to Trumpy bear”
He then tried to credit Biden for the low inflation in Feb and March.
Today, he attempted to blame Trump for the first quarter GDP contraction.
He then tried to credit Biden for the April rise in household income.
He then refused to acknowledge that the Q1 drop in GDP was due to cuts in government spending, and was almost entirely offset by “increases in investment, consumer spending, and exports”. You know, all the things that really matter.
George also lauded the fact that we hadnt had a negative GDP growth since 2022.
You know, around the time that the governement began printing $6 Trillion new dollars and pumping it into the economy???
So we got some GDP growth from new government spending along with 9% inflation and 8% interest rates. What a deal!!! A green new deal!!!
George must be so proud!!
George is a know liar in these parts.
These people are replacing the bibles morals with that of their own
#9. The best part is in the final book. Makes all this look like a sunny afternoon picnic.
Anthony L
An a very good thing that would be.
Here are just a very few examples of morality from the bible.
Adultery: Biblical hero Abraham impregnates his wife’s servant.
Anti-family values: Jesus proclaims, ‘For I am come to set man against his father, and daughter against her mother … ‘
Bigamy: Biblical hero Solomon possessed 700 wives.
Bigotry: God gives Moses the commandment to put all homosexuals to death.
Cannibalism: ‘This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him.’
Child abuse: ‘Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against stones.’
Deceit: Biblical hero King David befriends Uriah and then has him killed so he can have Uriah’s wife.
Incest: Lot’s daughters get their father drunk and both get pregnant by him.
Hey, that interbreeding happened in Game of Thrones, but I think that was fictional.
Was that Bible akin to “based-on-a-true-story” Hollyweird stuff?
Ever heard of the New Testament?
*. The blasphemer was slashed? What all people should understand is killing unbelievers or enemies of Allah, Mohammed scores paradise points. The religion rewards this slashing. When Israel was invaded, hostages taken and 1200 Israelis murdered they were elated and yelling Allah because they’d receive holy rewards. When there are moslems present understand they have a religious right to murder you. The UK and EU should be fearfully aware.
What happened to the slasher? Yes, stop all immigration into non Islamic nations understanding they may lie on their apps as did Kahlil Makhmoud and Ilan Omar. There are religious rewards.
Slowly deport because it really is a religion of terrorism, lies and murder. You’re rewarded for such. Let’s also recall the Egyptian man who just burned 12 people with intent to murder. He’d do it again. It’s not a religion. It’s terrorism and a cult. The Constitution does not protect cults of terrorism.
Don’t harm them. Deport to nation of origin and the Egyptian was illegal. Why didn’t computers pick it up immediately and post a warrant for arrest and deport and that’s for any such.
*. Let’s recall Iran within this century and exile of the shah of Iran when the ayotollah called for destruction of the government. The ships followed his orders. The Pallavi family was given asylum in the US. The shah’s wife is currently a resident of France.
I think you’ve found the disturbance. You’re being rounded up with homosexual marriages and mocked, mutilation of children, pornography, etc . Your judges aren’t biologists.
The constitution does not protect the cult of Islam. Its not a religion. It’s terrorism. Have Turkish Armenian ask for US asylum for targetted persecution.
*. ^^ Pahlavi
Ships? Adherents…
*. Don’t belive it, rubes? The Shah may not have either. What other religion encourages killing othe religions?
Islam is a terrorist cult.
*. If you aren’t old and Infirm, leave here. Place is done…great job of pillaging and plunder, Barry. You lived up to your name. Biden was quite a scumbag. Always was…
*. It’s not blasphemy. It’s just truth. It’s against my religion to believe terrorism, lies and murder is a religion. It’s an illness.
You people better understand these psycho moslems commit murder for Allah and the pedo Mohammed which gives them a rallying post.
90% of moslems have genetic disease damage because they marry cousins. The big eye o hole uh is a descendent of Mohammed because Mohammeds daughter married her cousin. Obviously something wrong with these shrouded people.
Give me liberty or give me death Robert’s court!
#9. Oops
OOPS WHAT?
“A DISCORDANT INTERMIXTURE MUST HAVE AN INJURIOUS TENDENCY”
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“Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom?”
“If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here.”
– Thomas Jefferson
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“[There is no particular need for the U.S. to encourage immigration] except of useful mechanics and some particular descriptions of men or professions.”
“The policy or advantage of its taking place in a body (I mean the settling of them in a body) may be much questioned; for by so doing, they retain the language, habits, and principles (good or bad) which they bring with them.”
– George Washington
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“The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all-important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”
– Alexander Hamilton
Muslims follow Koran and destroy any other religion. Look at the nightmare in the EU
* GET IT RIGHT! IT’S NOT A RELIGION. IT’S TERRORISM! STRAP ON YOUR DYNAMITE VEST?
” … “Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom? – Thomas Jefferson …”
It was called: D-Day, June 6, 1944, marked the Allied invasion of Normandy, France, as part of Operation Overlord…
“… for by so doing, they retain the language, habits, and principles (good or bad) which they bring with them.” – George Washington …”
The “language, habits, and principles” the U.S. Military brought Peace, Order, Prosperity, and Freedom to Them (Europe, Japan, S. Korea)
Alexander Hamilton had good intentions of precaution to be observed.
Your statement is understood and recognized and correct in it’s American gist. Only pointing out that ‘diversity’ can bring about change for the good of Society.
republican Americans. during Thomas Jefferson time?
Check the dates bud
This quote: “Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom?” comes from Thomas Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia, written in the early 1780s, bud.
Americans have been republicans since day one.
Hyphenates and Homo sapiens sapiens of the female gender who possess XX chromosomes, female reproductive organs, and the ability to bear children, not so much.
A “High Wall Of Separation” in-between: Religion |and| Government |and| Banking (‘Church and State’ and Commerce) must be founded by the Social Contract, in so that Freedom can thrive and survive independently in each realm of each other as a cohesive sphere of life. (Constitutional-Homeostasis – Balance of Powers)
Without this Chaos ensues as imbalances create havoc.
All of the Worlds Nation States have yet to adopt this principle, hence the chaos We live in today (The ‘Rage’ we live with today).
Too bad there’s only 1 Abrahamic religion that supports that (even if they didn’t quite so in the past), and the other two want nothing but religion and banks to control the government.
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To Anonymous: at 12:25 PM
Yet in all three Abrahamic Religions, none address the separation of the Realms (Religion, Government, Commerce)
The Talmud as a guidebook for the Torah
The Five Pillars of Islam as a guidebook for the Koran
The Seven Sacraments of Christianity as a guidebook for the Bible
Tell us how to practice the discipline and guide the interpretation, but they do not Canonize the separation of ‘functions’ in that of a Social Contract, therein their respective Religious practices.
The U.S. Constitution as Amended gets Us partially there, but some aspects of these ‘types’ of Separations of Powers (Religion, Government, Commerce) have yet to be canonized. An assumption mat be that; they haven’t been canonized in order to maintain a syllogism which reverts ‘control’ to “The Powers to Be (e.g.: the Invisible Hand)”.
Semantic Correction: Canonized > Codified
Religious laws are Canonized
Constitutional Laws are Codified
Sorry, I had used them interchangeably.
Corrected:
“… The U.S. Constitution as Amended gets Us partially there, but some aspects of these ‘types’ of Separations of Powers (Religion, Government, Commerce) have yet to be codified. An assumption may be that; they haven’t been codified in order to maintain a syllogism which reverts ‘control’ to “The Powers to Be (e.g.: the Invisible Hand)”. …”
Baha’i is also Abrahamic. Abraham is literally considered a prophet for this religious of about 10 million.
So to close, Until these areas are addressed by separation (To Jonathan’s point – The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in the Age of Rage ) We cannot eviscerate “The Rage’, and Others will continue to capitalize upon it.
Is that you, Kamalala?
My Kamalism is deeper,
If you take the original semantic mistake of my missive a bit further, the differences between Canonize and Codify are profound.
The epiphany is:
To Canonize is to rectify and internalize the Law(s) into the Mind’s cognizant awareness.
verses
To Codify is to rectify and internalize Law(s) into the Society’s fabric of norms.
These differences are illustrated in:
The Torah’s Talmud: Written Word vs the Spoken Word.
The Koran’s: Shiite adherence to literal word vs Sunni interpretation of the word.
The Christian’s: Believers of the Biblical Rules vs Non-Believers perceived Rules.
By which there are, Those that have ‘internalized the rules’ of Law and Those that have ‘submissed to obey the rules’ of Law.
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As for Kamala, She’s not really that crazy, it just comes out that way.
So why is/was that Difference made?
[Written] Readings are literally communicated (By the Book)
[Spoken] Orthodox readings are spoken interpretive communication (By the Spokesperson).
It may be that the separation diverged so to make the original communication more applicable to the current Times.
Or that in the time before Print (before the Gutenberg Press) that the practice of spoken communication was the only method available and differences propagated over time.
The invention of the Press made possible ‘versions’ of the original book (testament), which are spoken interpretations made to print (like the King James Bible, Gideon’s Bible. etc.)
In all, the Books are a collection of Social Conscripts to wit there are rules and laws of conduct which enhance life.
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