The Democratic National Committee (DNC) appears to be doubling down on crazy in Minneapolis this week with calls to pack the Supreme Court and other extremist priorities. For voters who have repeatedly shown that they want to move to a more moderate center, you are left like Jack Nicholson in As Good As It Gets when his character, Melvin Udall, who declared, “Sell crazy someplace else. We’re all stocked up here.”
As many know, I was raised in a politically active, liberal, Democratic family in Chicago and worked much of my life for Democratic candidates and campaigns. This week again reminded many of us how far the party has moved from its more centrist history. That includes another call to pack the Supreme Court with liberals to force or ratify sweeping political and social changes.
The meeting started in a signature fashion.
Lindy Sowmick, treasurer of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (DFL) spoke to the delegates after DNC Chairman Ken Martin asked her to recite the land acknowledgment. Sowmick asked the delegates to think about her works: “As Democrats, I ask of every one of you to not allow land acknowledgments like these to simply be the checking of a box – be curious, ask questions, ensure our native neighbors are heard and work in partnership with your Indigenous communities.” Sowmick then declared:
“The DNC acknowledges and honors the Dakota Oyate – the Dakota people – who are the original stewards of the lands and waters of Minneapolis. The Dakota cared for the lands, lakes and the Wakpa Tanka – the ‘Great River,’ the Mississippi River – for thousands of years before colonization. This land was not claimed, or traded – it’s a part of a history of broken treaties and promises. And, in many ways, we still live in a system built to suppress Indigenous peoples’ cultural and spiritual history.”
From there, it was a free-for-all, including a fierce fight over a resolution to condemn Israel. Martin strangely forced a divisive debate, where he and others pushed through a resolution that only called for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid, which was denounced by others. After passing the resolution, he then moved to rescind it as an act of unity. It left many wondering what the purpose of the exercise was in forcing a debate and then withdrawing the passed resolution.
Delegates continued to show how out of touch the party has become, including one assuring delegates that the public really does not care about carjackings and migrant crimes despite the polls. Another insisted that today the nation is worse to live in than during the pandemic.
Laurence S. Zakson is a DNC member from California and a partner at Reich Adell & Cvitan in Beverly Hills. He and others called for Congress to act on changing the size of the Supreme Court due to the alleged partisan agenda of the majority and the failure to reach correct decisions. It is the same playbook that Democrats have used in the last two elections to pack the Court with liberals.
Some on the left have even called for the Supreme Court to be “dissolved.” That rhetoric has been matched by Democratic leaders. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer previously declared in front of the Supreme Court, “I want to tell you, [Neil] Gorsuch, I want to tell you, [Brett] Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price.”
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) stated that she wants to impeach all six of the conservative justices. She was immediately joined by other Democratic members. Previously, she admitted that she does not understand why we even have a Supreme Court. She asked, “How much does the current structure benefit us? And I don’t think it does.”
Other members, such as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), have called for packing the Court with additional members to immediately secure a liberal majority to rule as she desires. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D., RI) has assured voters that Vice President Kamala Harris will support the packing of the Court with a liberal majority.
Polls show the public understands that such moves are madness. Some of us have discussed the expansion of the Supreme Court for years, but there is a difference between expanding and packing. This is court packing in its rawest and most dangerous form.
It is one last pitch for crazy in an already over-stocked nation.
The Dakota Oyate (aka the Sioux) stole that land. They had moved north from the Mississippi Valley into the Great Lakes region before the White man came to America. The White man first them in the Northern Missippi Valley. The Souix were pushed west by better armed enemy tribes such as the Chippewa and Cree. Not the White man.
European traders had met them on the upper Mississippi a century earlier, but now, as they migrated south and west, they broke into three main divisions: the Teton, the Middle, and the Eastern Sioux.
See, SOME OF US know history while others only know propaganda.
Anyway, as the Souix continued to be pushed west, they eventually wandered into the Dakotas which was Cheyenne territory. The Cheyenne taught them how live on the prairie and use horses. The Sioux repaid them with war and conquest driving the Cheyenne westward to less fertile areas.
But don’t feel too sorry for the Cheyenne. They stole that land from prior inhabitants, including the Pawnee and Mandans. Who, in turn, had colonized (stole) the regions staring 7th century from others.
You were never a centrist, you simply swung from one side to the other chasing money and a little bit of fame
You’re so far off-base you have no clue. I guess that’s why you spam silly opinions anonymously. Since you’ve forgotten, the left gone so far left that it’s unrecognizable. So centrists like myself and Turley look to people like you, who have no grounding in your perspectives, to be radical conservatives because we believe in CORE LIBERAL VALUES, NOT LEFTIST AUTHORITARIANISM AND BULLYING.
Here is a review of this post from Jonathan Turley that everyone, including Turley himself, should take the time to read in its entirety, it’s titled “The Red-Pilling of Jonathan Turley” The blogger is Jack Marshall who is an “…ethicist, which means I make my living teaching, consulting, speaking and writing about ethics, and a lawyer, and the president of ProEthics, Ltd.”, “…ethics, defined as the study of right and wrong, and how to become better at telling the difference.”
This is NOT an attempt at pitting bloggers against each other, it’s an attempt for bloggers and commenting participants to LEARN from each other. We ALL need to really listen and learn from each other and that includes prominent lawyers and bloggers alike. Marshall can be a little harsh about Turley’s writing style once in a while (we’ve all got to have thick skin when blogging), but when comes to looking at current events from an ethics point of view, there is none better than Marshall, he really is the most consistent and the best ethics consultant and blogger around.
I regularly get together with prominent people that have been, or are currently, involved in politics. We get together for breakfast a few times a month and even though we are honest and straight with each other even when we disagree, we’ve all become friends. It’s a regular breakfast outing that I really look forward to. Since Marshall and Turley are both lawyers in the DC area, they should try to get together regularly for open honest discussion over breakfast, I think they would agree on a lot of topics but offer different and valuable perspectives into the topics.
Here is a short excerpt from the linked blog post…
Read, learn, and comment if you like.
I found nothing of interest in that post. What do think is to be learned from it. Also, is the guy not aware of spell-checkers?
goodbeavis wrote, “I found nothing of interest in that post.”
That’s too bad and your loss.
goodbeavis wrote, “What do think is to be learned from it.”
That’s up to individual readers.
goodbeavis wrote, “Also, is the guy not aware of spell-checkers?”
That comment here is pointless nonsense. Why don’t you post your complaint in that blog; but be warned, that kind of comment over there as a stand-a-alone comment without actually addressing the substance of the blog post won’t get you very far with the author or the commentariat.
President Trump has a remarkable ability to induce his opponents to behave like deranged crazy people.”
I am not sure that the Ojibway would feel acknowledged by a statement privileging Dakota claims. Bill Hill, Salem, VA
Connect the dots: DC, Minnesota, California, Chicago, Baltimore, Richmond, Atlanta, Detroit, NYC….this isn’t rocket science. Democrats and Violence go hand in hand
It has been heartbreak after heartbreak for Minnesota
– The Minnesota Star Tribune
Wednesday was the first all-school Mass for the first week of classes at Annunciation Catholic School. Maybe the little ones prayed for the school year and the adventure ahead. Third grade. Fifth grade. The best year yet.
Maybe they prayed for us. The grown-ups who could have built them a world that protects its children from people with too many guns and a manifesto. We could have tried after Rocori, after Red Lake, after Sandy Hook, after Parkland, after Uvalde.
Instead, we let a shooter walk up to the church and fire round after round into the crowded pews. Two children were shot dead and 17 others, ranging in age from a 6-year-old to parishioners in their 80s, were wounded. Don’t offer us thoughts and prayers, a furious Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey told the news crews outside the crime scene tape Wednesday. These kids were literally praying.
https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-mass-shooting-school-church-annunciation-vigil/601462353
Jacob Frey, per Wiki, is a Reformed Jew and his second wife a Jewish convert. the Trans assassin was the son of a mother who worked at the Catholic parish. I’m still waiting for a Muslim to appear to make it a trifecta.
Things go horribly wrong yet the Left, as always and on cue, blames grown-ups who could have built them a world that protects its children from
people with too many guns and a manifestowhen most Americans know it is the Democrats who push unscientific, medically dangerous, crazy political ideologies , who incite “senseless” violence.We are told Trans people commit suicide if they do not receive the “supportive care” the Left say they deserve.
Parents gathered in the school parking lot before they were brought into the basement gymnasium to see their children. When another second-grader calmly told his father, “The shooter shot himself,” the father burst into tears.
Yet they commit suicide no matter what happens.
You can’t cure crazy with a prescription. This one needs surgery with a 10 blade, deep, lasting cuts to remove the rot that the Left have hoisted on America. Ironically the Trans folks are helping Americans see what Democrats are, not that they need yet more data
““The shooter shot himself,” the father burst into tears”
Assuming the tears were for the murderer, why? Save those tears for the dead, the family, the friends, and all the rest whose lives have been changed forever. To those who do not believe in capital punishment, that is understandable, but before worrying about a murderer, talk to the family and friends to put your mind in perspective.
We should not make fun of their crazy. It’s an effective pathway to power and wealth. It’s crazy like a fox, not mere crazy. It succeeded in tens of millions of illegal immigrants, in unquestionable violation of law. It succeeded in anointing a presidential candidate who never got a single vote from We the People. It succeeded in the Disinformation Governance Board (for a little while). It succeeded in Russia, Russia, Russia. As we make fun of crazy, they acquire more power and wealth. They get the last laugh, unless we do more than just make fun of them.
Crazy, yes. And dangerous…
Leave to the left-wing Tim.
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Independent and Catholic school leaders begged Governor Tim Walz for help securing their schools two years ago, but he never helped did it. Rather he was focused more on the transgender pretenders and their cause.
Fast forward to today when a trans-terrorist murders Catholic school children in horrific display of hatred.
Another line in the movie deserves mention. Helen Hunt unloads on Jack Nicholson and then says “now nod your head up and down so l know you understand me”.
BIG MYTH being presented in MN as WOKE trash: ‘…we still live in a system built to suppress Indigenous peoples’ cultural and spiritual history.’ TOTAL BS. The Indian Tribes are Wealthy Wealthy & More Wealthy due to many factors, like the USA honouring 200 year old treaties giving them infinite tax breaks and letting them own their lands….. I am reminded of this whenever I go to Palm Springs.. The Tribes there own all the Mega Casinos, keeping building more of them all upscale with Spas, etc.. and virtually all the lands in and around Palm Springs so you can imagine what they make in rents – tax free, of course. All the Indian families are much more wealthy than what we would consider ‘wealthy.’
Whar the hell does a golf player who travels to Palm Springs on a regular basis and spells “honouring” (With a u, British style) know about indigenous tribes of North America?
SIGNIFICANTLY MORE!! THAN u & yr TDS terrorist comrades, ‘Anonymous’ from the Darkside. I worked with the Head Indian Nation for several years and 3 of their most active members are Best Friends of mine.. one of whom worked in DC on their behalf & one of whom is from MN, working with the Tribal Nations in that area and beyond & verifies that the MN verbiage is woke misleading Trash. YOU are CLUELESS as to the real power that our Natie Americans have, protected by Uncle Sam. Most of us can’t wait for the day when Prof. Turley finally limits his platform to those who can engage in enlightened Free Speech vis-a-vis negative spin from trolls.
So… How much Money do They want?
After all that’s what it comes down to,
Doesn’t it.
Imagine if the MAGA morons reacted to mass shootings with the same passion and outrage as when Cracker Barrel changed their stupid logo
Imagine if they protected kids like they protect Ghislaine and the Epstein files and our pedo president
Imagine if Trump-haters didn’t murder little children.
oldman
Imagine if it was harder to buy a gun than to buy some Sudafed.
Imagine a person can be in a room with 1000s of guns and shoot no one due to morals, ethics.
I grew up in an NYC apartment. My father had guns, went to the range regularly, taught us how to clean, handle, and store them safely. Now an aging widow in a small Maine town, I have two hand guns handy. I have certainly never shot anyone. Neither did any member of my NYC family, nor my husband, who was an excellent shot.
If people are bent on murder, they are extremely likely to succeed, one way or another. Neither the corpses nor the bereaved will much care whether guns, knives, or strangling (for examples only) took lives away. Only those hipped on grinding political axes in the face of tragedy do, the vile opportunists who make dirty use of others’ misfortunes to hawk their particular political snake oil.
Oldman– I wonder if this person was taking SSRIs? So many of these shooters have been.
The left is hyping the public up so much that they don’t need drugs to cause this craziness.
I think suicide is infectious. Westman did kill others, but in the end, it was a suicide by cop.
I love it.. the left agrees with Prez Trump.
NEW: DC Mayor Muriel Bowser says she’s *GRATEFUL* for Trump’s crime crackdown🚨
“We greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance what MPD has been able to do.”
“For carjackings, the difference between this 20-day period of this federal surge and last year represents a 87% reduction in carjackings.” MAGA
“The DNC acknowledges and honors the Dakota Oyate – the Dakota people – who are the original stewards of the lands and waters of Minneapolis.”
Democrats demonstrate they cannot run a nation, especially international affairs, where one must recognize the history of various peoples.
The Dakota Oyate were not the “original people” of the Minneapolis lands. Like Europeans, the American Indian tribes moved and displaced one another.
S. Meyer
I agree with you wholeheartedly
The notion that the Dakota Oyate are the “original people” is absurd.
As you point out, we all know that the tribes moved and displaced each other.
No single tribe has a claim to the land as the “original people” .
That claim is just as ridiculous and absurd as the claim by the Jewish people that they are the “original people” entitled to the land of Israel.
We all agree that the claims by the American Indians and the Jews are absolute nonsense.
In both cases the people moved and displaced others as you so accurately note.
The Dakota are not the “original people” of Minneapolis, just as the Jews are not the “original people” in Israel.
Don’t you agree?
S. Meyer is too smart to fall for your game.
Imagine if Arabs were okay with having 99% of the land and 100% of the oil in the middle east, not to mention 22 nations, and would be willing to let the Jews have one nation with 1% of the land consisting of a tiny strip of desert with no oil to speak of which just happened to be their ancestral homeland going back thousands of years.
oldman
Imagine if you were capable of a coherent and rational response that doesn’t drift off into absurd non sequiturs that are completely unrelated to the topic at hand.
LOL, hey ano
Oldman wins…. You never had a chance with these pathetic put-downs.
But nice try.
Only an antisemite would twist or deny what the Jewish people themselves have always claimed. They never said they were the first humans to step on the land. They say, rightly, that it is their homeland.
The Jewish nation qualifies as the owner of its land by almost every recognized measure: they are indigenous to the area; they had an established kingdom there; they were never absent, maintaining continuous communities in Jerusalem, Tiberias, Hebron, and Safed even through exile; they preserved Hebrew, their native language, tied directly to that land; they built and rebuilt, farming it, draining swamps, and cultivating deserts.
No other people prayed toward that land for two thousand years. No other people maintained their capital, Jerusalem, as the center of their national and religious life for millennia. Ancient records from Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, and Romans identify the Jews as the people of that land, and even Christianity and Islam long acknowledged it as such.
Modern law recognized it too: the League of Nations mandate confirmed the Jewish historical connection and called for restoring their national home. The UN did the same in 1947. Israel’s survival in repeated wars of aggression confirmed sovereignty in the clearest way possible; defending and holding it.
Among roughly fifty Muslim-majority states, there is only one Jewish state in the land tied uniquely to them by history, language, faith, and blood.
Learn your history and learn to think.
S. Meyer
I have corrected your absurd rant.
Only an anti-Native American would twist or deny what the Native American people themselves have always claimed. They correctly claim that they were the first humans to step on the land. They say, rightly, that it is their homeland. (as an aside, you admit that the Jews never claimed that they were the first humans to step on the land, a claim that the Native Americans can unequivocally make with regard to their land).
The Native American nation qualifies as the owner of its land by almost every recognized measure: they are indigenous to the area; they had an established tribal presence there; they were never absent, maintaining continuous communities in the Northeastern Woodlands, the Southeastern Woodlands, the Great Plains, the Great Basin, the Northwest Plateau, the Northwest Coast, California and the Southwest; they preserved their native languages, tied directly to that land.
There is absolute genetic proof that Native Americans were the first humans to set foot in North America after crossing the Bering Strait land bridge from East Asia 23,000 years ago.
They are unquestionably the “original people” of North America.
For johnny-come-lately Europeans like you to claim that the Native Americans have no claim to the land because the tribes moved around and displaced each other is absolutely absurd. Lands may have changed “ownership” as tribes moved or were displaced, but that is irrelevant because the tribes are really just subdivisions of the same people, the same as the Jews are subdivided into the Ashkenazim, Sephardim and Mizrahim. The Jewish groups all come from a common ancestry, just as the Native American tribes come from a common ancestry.
In addition, it is well documented that the original 12 tribes of Israel fought among themselves and eventually split the kingdom into their own territories, just as the Native American tribes fought among themselves and took each other’s land.
To argue that the Native American claim to the land is abrogated because the tribes moved around and displaced each other is absurd.
The parallels between the 12 tribes of Israel and the Native Americans is undeniable.
If you argue that the Native American tribes lost their claim to the land because they moved around and fought each other and took land from each other, then you also have to allow that the Jews lost their land rights when the 12 tribes fought and took each other’s land.
If you claim that the Jewish people are the “original people” of Israel, which I do not necessarily dispute, then you have to acknowledge that the Native Americans are the “original people” of North America with the same land rights as the Jews.
To argue otherwise is the height of hypocrisy.
You can’t have it both ways.
You cannot claim these rights for YOUR people while denying the same rights to people who have been here in North America for tens of thousands of years longer than you.
Please note that I do not dispute that the Jews may have a claim as the original people of Israel.
My point is, that by the same criteria the Native Americans have a claim to North America that cannot be denied.
You seem to think otherwise.
You think YOUR people have rights that you are quite prepared to deny to Native Americans.
The word for that is HYPOCRISY and suggests deep seated racism.
Learn your history, and learn to think.
Anonymous:
-and let me correct your pseudo-intellectual rambling pretending to justify Native American “ownership” of lands.
Your statement that “For johnny-come-lately Europeans like you to claim that the Native Americans have no claim to the land because the tribes moved around and displaced each other is absolutely absurd.”
The history of human migration (and settlement) is one of survivorship, conquest, surrender or negotiation. Something you conveniently left out of your equation.
Doesn’t matter that “Native American tribes” migrated here from elsewhere, NOR that the tribes moved around and displaced each other.
What matters is the historical development of survivorship, conquest, surrender or negotiation regarding these lands.
For you to claim that they own land in perpetuity because their horses traveled over it or they settled there HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING. Go get your milk bottle and read “The History of the World” or something a little lighter, maybe with pictures for you, little twit know-it-all.
Of course the problem is that S. Meyer is arguing that the Native Americans have no claim to lands because they “moved and displaced one another”, while simultaneously arguing that the Jews have a right to Israel, even though they were also “moved and displaced”.
My point is NOT that the Native Americans have an unassailable claim to the land.
They do not.
My point is that S. Meyer is a hypocrite for claiming that Jews have an unassailable right to Israel, under the same set of conditions that he uses to deny the same rights to Native Americans.
You are right when you say that Native Americans ” do not own land in perpetuity because their horses traveled over it”.
I agree.
But if you accept that, then you have to also agree that the Jews do not own Israel in perpetuity because they once lived there.
That is my point.
S, Meyer is a hypocritical Zionist zealot.
“Of course the problem is that S. Meyer is arguing that the Native Americans have no claim to lands because they “moved”
I didn’t make any claims of that nature. Go ahead and quote where I said that. You are a poor reader, and you don’t think. Everyone can have a claim.
“claiming that Jews have an unassailable right to Israel”
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I didn’t say that either. Israel can claim to be a legitimate country with a history of thousands of years. If the Arabs won any one of the many wars they started, Israel would no longer exist. That happened many times in the past, but Israel and the Jews remain.
“the Jews do not own Israel in perpetuity because they once lived there.”
That is true. But their claim as a country today has a validity the Dakota Oyate do not have.
“S, Meyer is a hypocritical Zionist zealot.”
I am not hypocritical, but I am a Zionist who has shown that Israel has more claim to the land than anyone else.
S. Meyer
You said:
“The Dakota Oyate were not the “original people” of the Minneapolis lands. Like Europeans, the American Indian tribes moved and displaced one another.”
You explicitly state your belief that the Dakota are not the “original people” of the Minneapolis lands, and therefore the only reasonable conclusion in the context of this discussion is that their claim to the land is invalid.
If it means something else, then please explain.
You are entirely missing the point I am trying to make, perhaps deliberately.
This whole thing started when Turley dismissed the DNC for their insistence that the Dakota should have a voice as the “original people”.
You piled on by dismissing the Dakota as the “original people”, presumably agreeing with Turley that their voice should not be heard.
I simply pointed out that you are being hypocritical in dismissing the Dakota, because their circumstances almost exactly match the circumstances of the Jews with regard to Israel.
I am not saying that the Dakota have an unassailable claim to the land.
What I am saying is that your claims that the Jews have an unassailable claim to Israel are hypocritical in light of your simultaneous claim that the Dakota do not have similar rights.
“You explicitly state your belief that the Dakota are not the “original people” of the Minneapolis lands, and therefore the only reasonable conclusion in the context of this discussion is that their claim to the land is invalid.”
Wrong!
“You piled on by dismissing the Dakota as the “original people”,”
Wrong!
“presumably agreeing with Turley “
Don’t presume!
“I simply pointed out that you are being hypocritical in dismissing the Dakota,”
Wrong!
“because their circumstances almost exactly match the circumstances of the Jews with regard to Israel.”
Wrong!
” your claims that the Jews have an unassailable claim to Israel”
Wrong!
As an antisemite you tried to prove a point. You failed and proved ignorance instead
Ano
Get over it. You lost.
Anon– ” because their horses traveled over it… :
Indians didn’t have horses until the Spaniards brought them to North America.
As for the rest of the argument, it is silly posturing. None of palefaces who do land acknowledgements is offering to give up any of his “stolen land” and it is the Democrats more than Republicans who are more likely to interfere with Indian rights on reservations.
As for the reservations, they are hardly concentration camps. In the West they are vast and they have resources. Even when not huge there are advantages…casinos for example. In Santa Barbara each tribal member gets about $40,000 a month from his casino cut. Wouldn’t you like to be an Indian too?
This has played out before when The First Farmers of Europe developed the technologies of farming and left Anatolia for the rest of Europe. They displaced and absorbed the hunter/gatherer populations in Europe simply by reproduction. A farming community can support a much larger population than a few people gathering nuts in the woods. When Europeans arrived in North America they arrived with a bundle of skills that the Indians couldn’t match. Look at the huge homes built in the 1600s in Massachusetts. Very quickly Europeans absorbed Indian skills and Indians became dependent on European technology. Look at the famous picture of Geronimo holding his rifle. Rifle and nearly all of his clothes were of European technology. And the horse he rode in on, too.
I am finished with paleface university guilt trips about Indians [who also had slaves] and black slaves who have cost more trouble than they were worth and who were sold into slavery by their own African people.
Crazy man, the Indians were undocumented illegal alien Asiatic nomads with no claim to this continent and who never had surveys, deeds, county records, courts, or a country.
They were most certainly not native to this continent and roaming here long before America was established; they could not possibly be American.
Native American is a political fraud perpetrated by anti-American communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs) who inexplicably endeavor daily to destroy this once-great nation.
Ignorance should be your handle, but you hide under anonymous.
“They correctly claim that they were the first humans to step on the land. They say, rightly, that it is their homeland.”
It might be their homeland, but that tribe didn’t exist when the first people lived on that land. You confuse the first documented people in European records with the first humans. That is a sign of low intelligence.
“To argue that the Native American claim to the land is abrogated”
You have poor reading skills. No one said that.
“Jews may have a claim as the original people of Israel.”
That was not said either. The Jews are the only indigenous people of that area who continue to exist in the same area. Do you have neighbors who are Assyrian or Babylonian?
I mentioned a few reasons why Israel has a claim to exist as a country:
They are indigenous to the area; they had an established kingdom there; they were never absent, maintaining continuous communities in Jerusalem, Tiberias, Hebron, and Safed even through exile; they preserved Hebrew, their native language, tied directly to that land; they built and rebuilt, farming it, draining swamps, and cultivating deserts.
No other people prayed toward that land for two thousand years. No other people maintained their capital, Jerusalem, as the center of their national and religious life for millennia. Ancient records from Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks, and Romans identify the Jews as the people of that land, and even Christianity and Islam long acknowledged it as such.
Modern law recognized it too: the League of Nations mandate confirmed the Jewish historical connection and called for restoring their national home. The UN did the same in 1947. Israel’s survival in repeated wars of aggression confirmed sovereignty in the clearest way possible; defending and holding it.
I think all people can make claims, and that claim includes the Dakota Oyate. Do you think you can show why they have a claim as solid as Israel? Go ahead and list their claims.
*. Look to the New Testament and you’ll find 2000 year old Jesus Christ of the house of David. Passover in Jerusalem. See what I mean, Meyer? When you need him.
😂 kept it all this time…
Yes, Jesus was born a Jew, had a Bar Mitzvah, and his apostles were Jewish. If you wish to say that he came from the House of David, that is fine with me. That is part of the teachings of Christianity, but not of other faiths.
*. Sometimes you’re really stoopid, Meyers. Christians kept the record not always knowing the reason.
Meyers, God does what he does with or without your consent. I’m handing kudos to the Christian for being so stubbornly faithful. Heck, some don’t even know Jesus was born a Jew aka descriptive ( the house of David ).
God doesn’t need your consent.
Native Americans saw themselves as a herd of “people” no different from the herds of deer, bison, bear, etc and wore their pelts, horns, feathers as magical imparting the speed of or the strength of or cleverness of other herds of animals.
They had no understanding of ownership, buying, selling outside of I hunt here carefully with wolves. Paleface was just another herd with hunting prowess. They were viscious hunters, natives, indigenous aka Indians a shortened word for indigenous. Let’s just say indigenous. Stone age people without wheels, metallurgy or horses. They walked. Iron was magical, too, but fell upon settlers viciously killing entire families. Life was hard for indigenous.
Europeans weren’t sweethearts. Where’s the bison, grizz, wolves? The gigantia, 🐳…
I’ve seen Dances with Wolves and Jeremiah Johnson, too.
S.Meyer
You mentioned a few reasons why Israel has a “solid” claim to exist as a country:
They (Jews) are indigenous to the area.
I agree. The Native Americans are also indigenous as the first humans in North America.
They (Jews) had an established kingdom there.
I agree. The Native Americans also established tribal “kingdoms”.
They were never absent, maintaining continuous communities in Jerusalem, Tiberias, Hebron, and Safed.
I agree. The Native Americans also maintained continuous communities all over the continent.
They preserved Hebrew, their native language, tied directly to that land.
I agree. The Native Americans also maintained their native languages tied to the land.
No other people prayed toward that land for two thousand years.
I agree. The Native American people were the only people to pray toward their land for 23,000 years.
No other people maintained their capital, Jerusalem, as the center of their national and religious life for millennia.
I agree. The Native Americans were the only people to maintain their lands as the center of their national and religious life for millenia.
So what is the difference ??
By YOUR criteria the Native American claim to the land is just as “solid” as the Jewish claim to Israel.
My point is NOT that the Native Americans have a right to claim the land.
They do not.
My point is that you are a hypocrite when you dismiss the Native American claim to the land while simultaneously claiming that under the same set of conditions the Jews have a right to claim Israel.
You can’t have it both ways.
*. In a nutshell Mohammed is hellbent on destroying his legitimate brother. He couldn’t get over being the son of a bond woman. 😉.
Meyers.
No helping Ano. Common sense lacking for him.
Dustoff, you have used the right words. Since 1948, and before, common sense has been lacking in the antisemitic crowd.
“The Native American nation qualifies as the owner of its land . . .”
That’s absurd.
They had no concept of private property, private contracts, surveys, deeds — all of which are the basic elements of land ownership.
Tatonka
*. ^^^ the best part of the history is not so long ago no one lived, inhabited the Western Hemisphere. That’s stunning.
Have a great day!
Oh, come, now. We all know that the land spontaneously sprouted its designated “original” inhabitants as a desert sprouts cacti.
Unlike other animals, people only migrate out of evil intent, and left-wing historians have documented that no member of any “Native” tribe in history ever had anything but the purest of motives for their smallest actions.
When Africans enslaved (some still effectively do) fellow Africans, when they sold them to white traders, these were hallmarks of a proud independent culture. Ditto for Muslim slaveowners, Haitian “owners” of “reste-avecs.” Slavery is only evil when whites participate.
It must be true, I read it in the Times!
*. The final word on slavery is sin. Remember the sabbath day is a day of rest. God rested, too. Take a rest and leave him alone to reflect upon his work in peace. He really doesn’t care what you’re wearing. Fashionistas…
*. Just like the border is secure so too DC, Chicago, Baltimore, St Louis aren’t violent.
DJT in communion with Bukele of El Salvador on how to clean up gangs , is doing that in real time.
El Salvadoran cecot should be assessed for human rights. If the prisoners are murderers then the death penalty is better than torture, perhaps?
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New York Times
“Donald Trump’s Big Gay Government”
“On the town with the A-Gays of Washington, who have never been happier to be out, proud and Republican.”
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The NY Times may liberally apply the G-word as a pejorative, but Americans can’t possibly utter the n-word for any reason?
What does that say about the NY Times and liberal America?
It’s quite amusing to see a government of outcasts, misfits, greatly diverse, with representation of women, gays, people of color, vilified by those who have clamored for just such.
Perhaps what bothers NY Times devotees is that these individuals are actually fairly intelligent and competent.
The Circus Ring of Fame or the World Clown Association awards definitely wouldn’t go to the Democrats, the clown show they have been conducting in their Circus of Denial will go down as a tragic comedy!
“ The Dakota cared for the lands, lakes and the Wakpa Tanka – the ‘Great River,’ the Mississippi River – for thousands of years before colonization.“ So the Dakota cared for the Mississippi river? Did they build locks and dams or levees? And who did they take the land from?
Brother beaver did.
I was unaware that beavers construct locks. Can you tell me where to find out more on that?
Research it. Beavers are great. Beaver and humans have that in common, fluid dynamics.
2 kids dead in school. Hopes and prayers. Oh wait, they were praying when they were shot.
If you think we don’t have a gun violence problem, and you own a gun for your protection,Go F yourself with your gun. You deserve it.
An F with your prayers.
“2 kids dead in school. Hopes and prayers. Oh wait, they were praying when they were shot.
If you think we don’t have a gun violence problem, and you own a gun for your protection,Go F yourself with your gun. You deserve it.
An F with your prayers.”
Gigi, the shooter was one of your fellow trans nutjobs. How does that feel?
@Anonymous
Amazing how these shootings always magically happen when dems are in doo doo up to their necks, too. The distraction doesn’t work anymore, and that the shooters of late have all been ‘trans’ attacking religious people does not help the idiotic narrative. Spare us, Gigi.
Aninny:
Classy lines until you remember that good guys with GUNS responded to stop the tranny’s slaughter rampage. The macho madam then promptly shot himself sending him careening headlong into the fiery pit and leaving the rest of us to despise his supporters pour vous! Funny, that the psycho alphabet mafia never take on police stations or army barracks.
Black Americans kill each other in numbers that dwarf this, yet Gigi here can’t be bothered to care. Gigi, why are you such a racist?
Im really tired of seeing the anti intellectual crap. Like the above comment spouted here and at other locations. It’s really past time to call out this nonsense for the stupidity that it is.
My comment may not have been clear. The anti intellectual stuff is coming from the left in this country. My disdain for the short sighted, nonsense cannot be overstated.
Some highly decentralized, grass-roots system of supervision for young males and firearms would put a new layer of oversight between these lone wolf attackers and access to firearms.
What about gun ownership under 25 years old requiring somebody over 30 as co-signer (supervisor/mentor)?
That older adult would share liability (criminal / civil) for illegal use of the weapon.
This could pass muster under 2A, because when it was originally written, a Militia Captain loosely supervised gun use. He had the power to keep guns away from habitual drunks, the senile, the mentally ill, the immature, and the ones undergoing marital strife. He didn’t need any other authority to make these common sense judgments in favor of public safety.
The preamble to 2A cites “A well regulated militia…” — which implies a system of responsible supervision is Constitutional. Just as long as the supervision is not done by government bureaucrats or their minions. That middle path (requiring a sponsoring older adult) is entirely possible.
*. That has 2 parts. States have militias and their citizens bear and keep arms, and ammo, Patrick Henry.
“47,000 Highway Deaths”
– National Safety Council, Injury Facts
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BAN CARS!
We got’s a crazy people problem.
*. Lack of impulse control and immorality problem.
We don’t beed your gun control, we need tranny control – save lives, ban trannies!!!
The Dims are The Crime Party and a threat to everyone not so infected with their peculiar variety of mind virus. I’d suggest a gulag but that’s an insult to Russians and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn ( great book by the way). I also like exile. How many meglomanics will Elba hold?
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Aww Gigi, why do you support felony assault on law enforcement? Are all Democrats as violent as you?