Two Chicago Educators Face Questions Over “No Kings” Protest Calls

The large “No Kings” protests this weekend were peaceful with the exception of some hot spots in Portland near ICE facilities.  There were the usual hot heads carrying guillotines and North Carolina Democrat Rep. Julie von Haefen is under fire for posting a picture of a beheaded Trump.  Another protester was arrested for calling for protesters to “firebomb” ICE facilities and personnel. In another scene, children were encouraged to beat a Trump piñata. There was also an assault on a MAGA supporter. These remained happily isolated incidents. However, two school employees in Chicago drew national attention with their violent speeches and offered another test of our free speech standards.

In Chicago, elementary school teacher Lucy Martinez was shown on video mockingly making a gesture akin to being shot in the neck, mimicking how Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

The video went viral, and her school, Nathan Hale Elementary School, had to shut down its website and social media presence.

Martinez’s gesture is disgusting, and frankly, I would not want my children to be taught by such a person. However, she did not identify herself as a teacher when she made this vile statement outside of school during her own time. As such, it is, in my view, protected speech.

Then there is the controversy surrounding Wilbur Wright College Adult Education Manager Moises Bernal, who screamed to a crowd that “ICE agents gotta get shot and wiped out.” Bernal told the crowd, “You gotta grab a gun!” and “We gotta turn around the guns on this fascist system!”

In 2017, Bernal was sentenced to 12 months probation in a rare move by the court due to disruptive behavior at a hearing for Chicago police officer Jason Van Dyke who was charged with murder.

The question is whether calling for the killing of ICE officers crosses the line for an educator. After all, there are ICE officers who come to campuses in their official capacity or as students. There are also students who want to join law enforcement, including ICE.

Violent speech is admittedly a difficult area for such line drawing. Faculty have made similarly disturbing comments in the past, including “detonating white people,” abolish white peopledenouncing policecalling for Republicans to suffer,  strangling police officerscelebrating the death of conservativescalling for the killing of Trump supporters, supporting the murder of conservative protesters and other outrageous statements. I also defended the free speech rights of University of Rhode Island professor Erik Loomis, who defended the murder of a conservative protester and said that he saw “nothing wrong” with such acts of violence. (Loomis was later made Director of Graduate Studies of History at Rhode Island).

Even school board members referring to taking faculty “to the slaughterhouse” for questioning DEI policies is considering protected speech.

However, the specificity of Bernal’s call to violence could trigger repercussions for him. If Bernal had proclaimed that people should shoot minorities or women or Jews, there would be little debate that he represented a threatening element on campus. Certainly a student who espoused such violent intentions would not be allowed on campus in most universities.

For the university, it is difficult to see how law enforcement personnel in adult education programs would feel comfortable with an administrator who is encouraging others to murder them. Indeed, most people would not feel comfortable in interacting with someone who wants to kill law enforcement personnel.

Bernal’s comments likely fall short of a criminal threat, though, in New York city, David Cox was arrested after allegedly telling a third person that he had firebombs in his car and would be carrying out an attack. That was a specific threat and alleged plan. Bernal was encouraging violence in general.

However, calling for violence at a protest can cross the line for violent speech under existing precedent. In Brandenburg v. Ohio, the Supreme Court ruled that calling for violence is protected under the First Amendment unless there is a threat of “imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.”

In this case, there was no violence despite Bernal’s apparent inclinations. There was no evidence of “imminent lawless action.” As such, it is still likely protected. However, that does not mean that Wilbur Wright College, which is part of the city of Chicago college system, cannot fire or suspend him for calling for the murder of law enforcement.

There is currently no statement from Wilbur Wright College President Dr. Andrés A. Oroz.

 

352 thoughts on “Two Chicago Educators Face Questions Over “No Kings” Protest Calls”

    1. According to Biden, censorship was served during COVID because he said so. He and the DNC have so much more in common with not only Hitler but Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao.

  1. So you approve of what Trump is doing?
    Germans liked the good job that Hitler was doing to make Germany great again.

    1. Wholeheartedly! Cannot wait to see the Obama/Clinton perp walk. Wish I was younger so I could join ICE. Trump’s moving too slow for me, Biden and Fauci might die of old age before justice can be served.

      1. Anonymous,

        Correction: Trump isn’t moving too slow, the left-leaning, Chuckie Schumer hand-picked judiciary, is moving too fast.

    2. Trump is not Hilter. Even Bill Maher said so.
      America is not Germany.
      You are losing the narrative.
      How marvelous!

        1. And they all look like they are members of the DNC. Really, the Obama and Biden WH admins had more in common with Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao.

            1. The Biden admin proved it with their censorship of anyone critical of the COVID narrative. Just a fact. Would you like me to post a link to the Twitter Files or the Zuckerberg letter to Congress saying so?

        2. Rabble:
          Why be worried aobut the Hitlers on the horizon when your side is infested with Maos, Pols, and Stalins?

    3. “So you approve of what Trump is doing? Germans liked the good job that Hitler was doing to make Germany great again.”

      So you approved of what Biden’s AutoPen was doing? American disciples of Stalin and Hitler’s police state fascism approved of what Biden was doing to make America Marxist police state fascist again like it became under Obama.

      See how easy that was? No harder than it would be to club a furry little seal!

    4. So you approve of what Trump is doing?
      I approve of Trump on the whole. There are things he is doing that cross the line and are not as helpful as one might hope, but compared to Sleepy Joe, come on, there is just no comparison.

    5. Rabble:
      So? To Germans, what Hitler did to revitalize the Weimar-wrecked economy was nothing short of a miracle. remember the lines about them using the worthless Mark as wall insulation?
      I approve of what Trump is doing for the USA, and damn anyone’s opinion who’s not from here, or for here.

    1. So you are punitive and enjoy seeing people punished???
      Hitler was the same way!
      Not what I would expect from a lover of freedom.

      1. Punished for what? Punished for crimes against our country, it’s called law and order and justice served.

      2. Jordan refers former CIA Director Brennan to DOJ for criminal prosecution over House testimony
        “House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan on Tuesday referred former Central Intelligence Agency Director John Brennan to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution, alleging Brennan knowingly made false statements during his transcribed interview before the panel in 2023.”
        https://justthenews.com/government/congress/house-judiciarys-jordon-refers-former-cia-director-brennan-doj-over

        If he broke the law, he should be charged, and face a jury of his peers. Based on the evidence presented by the prosecution, the jury finds him guilty as charge then justice is served. That is what a civil society does.

        1. Most people are totally unaware of Brennan’s role in the 9/11 terror attack. He’s been an anti American Spook buttlicker his entire career. If he goes down it will only be half of what he deserves.

      3. “So you are punitive and enjoy seeing people punished??? Hitler was the same way!”

        Like when Biden was punitive like Hitler and used he and Obama’ Russia Dossier to punish General Flynn! And then later again, punish Trump administration officials like Navarro and Bannon – claiming that unlike Obama’s wingman Attorney General Eric Holder, Trump’s appointees don’t have Presidential Executive Privilege!

        Smooth move, Ex-Lax.

        Projection:
        Channeling one’s actions onto others typically refers to the psychological concept of projection, where an emotionally disturbed individual unconsciously or deliberately attributes their own thoughts, feelings, and anti-social or criminal behaviors onto someone else. This is an internal defense mechanism which allows a person to avoid confronting their own behavior and guilt by seeing them as the thoughts and actions of someone else who they despise and hate instead.

  2. OT

    Four thieves just walked in and stole the crown jewels from the Louvre.

    20 million Latinos et al. just walked across the border and “stole the crown jewels” from America.

    The Democrat Quislings said, “Come on in, get your “free stuff” from American producers and taxpayers, and be sure to vote (D) for DINERO!”

    1. Those “Latinos” are adding massively to the GDP of America. Because of fake IDs the taxes that are taken from their paychecks, which fund the operation of the government, can never see any refund. This includes Medicare and Social Security withholding. Free money for Americans.

      1. These are the not the “Latinos” anyone wants in America, ICE Nabs Dangerous Illegal Immigrants During Memphis Crime Crackdown
        “In Memphis, DHS law enforcement is working hand in glove with Attorney General Bondi to enhance public safety, fight crime, and provide much-needed support to our law enforcement partners at the local, state, and federal level. The Trump administration WILL make America safe again.”
        https://www.dailywire.com/news/ice-nabs-dangerous-illegal-immigrants-during-memphis-crime-crackdown

        I am sure you and your No Kings day protesters just love these kind of people. You know, gang members, pedophiles, rapists, domestic abusers, and drug traffickers.

      2. You’re obviously not a student of economics, $2T a year deficit and $38T debt. That’s more takers than givers, the jobs they take are American jobs. The Democratic giveaway is OVER! For All those industrious young American men and women that just are not interested in higher education, the trades are now awaiting you at six figure jobs. The worm is turning and the corporatists are about to find out!

      3. Thank you so much. If these criminal illegal alien invaders are fraudulently doing business with purveyors of fake IDs or fraudulently registered with Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, or any NGO, they will be easy to hunt down and deport. Oh, Happy Day, Jose!

        1. Well, yes. That is why the Democrats have shut down the government for, health care for illegals. This is a clean CR bill they are fighting against for health care for illegals. Illegals often are paid under the table, so they do not pay any taxes whatsoever all the while are collecting Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security at the expense of us taxpayers. That is why legal immigrants are also against illegals.

      4. Democrat congressman calls on NYPD to arrest ICE agents
        “Amid the crackdown, ICE has reported a dramatic increase in threats and acts of violence against its agents. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said last week that Mexican drug cartels have offered bounties from $2,000 to $50,000 for doxxing, kidnapping or killing ICE agents. Over the weekend, a New York man was arrested for threatening to firebomb ICE agents during a “No Kings” protest.

        “Our agents are facing ambushes, drone surveillance, and death threats, all because they dare to enforce the laws passed by Congress,” Noem said last week in a statement. “We will not back down from these threats, and every criminal, terrorist, and illegal alien will face American justice.”
        https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/rep-dan-goldman-calls-ice-agents-be-arrested?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home

        That is what I voted for, enforce laws passed by Congress.

        1. Somebody should tell that wealthy nepo-baby, Democrat Representative Dan Goldman, that he can exercise his right to make a citizen’s arrest of those ICE agents. Doesn’t have to beg NYPD to do it for him.

          The only thing stopping him are the usual Democrat handicaps: missing about a foot of spine and a even a gerbil sized set of balls.

      5. It is a crime to enter illegally; it is a crime to fraudulently claim “asylum.”

        1, 100, or 1,000.

        Not 20 million!

        Either way, they are illegal invaders.

        – Thou Shalt Not Covet

        – Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness

        – Thou Shalt Not Steal

    2. It is a crime to enter illegally; it is a crime to fraudulently claim “asylum.”

      1, 100, or 1,000.

      Not 20 million!

      Either way, they are illegal invaders.

      – Thou Shalt Not Covet

      – Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness

      – Thou Shalt Not Steal

  3. This story must be especially embarrassing to the DNC. They have assigned triple the usual number of paid trolls to junk up the comment section with nonsense.

      1. Don’t be calling out those old farts like Bolshevik Biden, Bernie The Commie, Commissar Pelosi et al….

    1. OldManFromKS,
      Oh, but it gets even better, Friendly-looking elderly man with stick faces federal probe over vile Trump threat at No Kings rally
      “An unsuspecting elderly man who called for Trump’s death during a No Kings rally is now being investigated by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).”
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15212569/elderly-man-faces-federal-probe-Trump-threat-No-Kings-protest.html

      These people are truly demented and or delusional.

    2. And the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs) assigned triple the usual number of judges and justices in their judicial branch to junk up the Founders’ rational and severely restricted-vote republic, their Constitution, and their Bill of Rights.

  4. Ending up in power = elected. Duh.
    Not ending up in power = not elected. Duh.

    Hitler ended up in power. That can only mean one thing.

        1. I can imagine a lot of things. Does not make it reality. Just like the No Kings day was all about imaginary things, as was Robert DeNiro’s ravings on MSNBC recently, they were not reality. The reality is, Trump is bringing back law and order to America. And because that is what voters want, Democrats are in a panic. He is winning. They are losing. And they know it. We know it. It is ever so fun to watch!!!

      1. DustOff,
        And, we are ever so lucky to have voted Biden out of office, voted for Trump who won both the popular and the electoral vote, and ended Biden’s and the DNC wrecking of America. We are winning but we have to work hard at continuing to win to keep the far leftists out of power till the normal, moderate Democrats take their party back from the woke leftist loons.

      1. Yes it’s true but Biden married his dog.

        Jack and Jill went up the Hill to spy on Senators and Staffers.
        Jack fell down, oh what a clown and Jill’s left with her mumbling disaster…

    1. He was extremely charismatic and a gifted orator. I know nothing about his goals or vision nor reasons.

      He was bizarre.

      1. The laptop was not real. Even though it had evidence of Biden’s corruption. 51 former intel officers told me it wasn’t real.

  5. Trent34 launched a false flag attack, cleverly channeling his inner Randi Weingarten:Both left- and right-leaning politicians would likely influence the curriculum of private schools, which would function primarily as profit-driven businesses focused on shareholders.

    There’s the tell to go along with the deceit: the Democrat communists recoil like slugs exposed to salt at the sight of anything that smacks of free market. Whether those establishing those private schools may actually make a profit as opposed to breaking even. Or American taxpaying parents having the RIGHT to a consumer’s choice of where their children are schooled.

    The part you refused to say out loud: America’s public schools are already not just influenced, but in many cases are completely controlled by the Democrat party and their political teachers’ unions.

    You’ve got quit a bit of child-like projection going on there in defense of the existing Democrat-Teachers Union Indoctrination Complex. And you’re doing it in hopes of building a strawman that you can then successfully attack and defeat.

    Existing charter schools in Chicago, Washington DC, etc, are somehow actually worse right now for political control and influence than their unionized public schools? How about parochial schools of any religion? Are they worse then public schools right now for political interference?

    I have a simple, basic question:

    Why are the Democrats and their teachers’ unions who are responsible for failing American public schools fighting fang and claw to, if not prohibit all non-public schools, then at least limit as much as possible the number existing and their ability to accept students?

    At the same time, you claim that if there are civil rights violations i.e. a private school owned by the Clinton Foundation puts up a sign saying “No Darkies accepted here”, that civil rights violation will still fly?

    You need to dial the Democrat/teachers’ unons hysteria and fearmongering back. That is: if you want to sell your position as a legitimate argument rather than a false flag defense of public schools continuing to be Democrat indoctrination centers.

    You can have some federal government i.e. OSHA and regulations regarding safety.

    But Democrats continuing to run American schools as failed academic institutions, while they successfully operate as indoctrination centers, is a model that needs to be crushed.

    We await your further defense of what you posted. That is, of course, if you have any.

    1. Tell us why—wholly unconstitutional and bereft of citable legal basis—Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc., were not struck down at their passage, comrade Aninny.

      1. “Tell us why—wholly unconstitutional and bereft of citable legal basis—Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc., were not struck down at their passage, comrade Aninny.”

        Tovarisch George/X —You seem a bit suss, given that you list the false flags you cosplay enrages you as Constitutional purist – and somehow or other just forgot to include Obamacare. Trying to hide in plain sight, Tovarisch George/X?

        But you want to talk Constitution and things bereft of citable legal basis?

        Then tell us why yet another lower court insurrectionist judge and their order that claims they are the real Commander In Chief was just struck down as wholly unconstitutional and utterly bereft of any factual basis. You spent DAYS claiming that Trump using the National Guard is Trump being a current day King George.

        Appeals court allows Trump administration to deploy National Guard in Portland
        https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/20/us/trump-san-francisco-national-guard-legal-battle-hnk

        Waiting George/X, waiting…

        1. You haven’t told us, comrade Aninny.

          Tell us why—wholly unconstitutional and bereft of citable legal basis—Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc., were not struck down at their passage, comrade Aninny.

          1. You haven’t told us Tovarsich George/X why you believe that your leader Bolshevik Barack’s Obamacare is constitutional – but don’t say the same about Medicare and Medicaid.

            Is it due to that Big D Democrat Double Standards?

    2. The majority of Republican controlled states produce worse school outcomes than the majority of states controlled by Democrats. Mississippi stands out as a Republican exception.

      How are schools failing when they produce more top performing graduates than the job market can absorb?

      More lawyers, more engineers, more software developers than the market can use. The schools were called upon to produce them and produce them they did.

      The Pledge of Allegiance was created by a guy who felt a nationalistic indoctrination was necessary. Every student a cookie-cutter patriot, ready to take up a gun and go kill somebody. Worked great with the American win in Vietnam, right?

      It must be terrifying for conservatives who want to control every thought a child has to see them being shown how all of the world works, exposing the conservative lies about false boundaries.

      1. “It must be terrifying for conservatives who want to control every thought a child has to see them being shown how all of the world works, exposing the conservative lies about false boundaries.”

        The Democrat Tranny Birthing Boyz are here having an identifying Midol Moment, trying to convince conservatives that they’re terrified of communist Democrat Furry Trannies.

        And of course, when we see the utopias they dream of modeling their Amerika on – Communist China, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, etc – we just know in our inner soul that their special version of communism is far superior to what Reagan and now Trump have provided.

  6. There was a democratic process involving elections where voters elected candidates, Hitler was one of the candidates. “Elected” can mean “voted for”. Did voters vote for Hitler? Yes, and in the end, as a result of these elections, Hitler was in power, more so than before the elections. It was these democratic elections that gave rise to Hitler. Election is the state of being elected (voted for). Without these democratic elections, Hitler would not have risen to power. When in power less than half a year later, Hitler would use legislation against his opponents with devastating effect (Hitler used lawfare, too).

    1. There was a democratic process involving elections where voters elected candidates, Hitler was one of the candidates.

      That narrative regarding Hitler could have been intended to point out how Obama was elected to power and then swiftly turned to the Divine Right Of Kings, lawfare, and Soviet style police state fascism.

      Within days of being elected as a president for all Americans, he turned to using Karl Marx/Saul Alinsky communist theology and police state fascism to fundamentally change America without putting it before Congress for a vote. All while using lawfare in attempts to destroy opponents to his/Biden’s rule using the Divine Right Of Kings (or Soviet Premiers if you prefer).

      For confused Democrat trolls trying to follow the original posters’s vague Hitler analogy and how it fits so well with Obama’s rule:
      – Quickly rewriting his failing new Obamacare, using his phone and pen instead of legislation passed in Congress, to add his “healthcare exchanges” to the legislation that did not create them. Kings, Nazis, and Soviet Premiers don’t need voter approval.

      – Deploying Jack Smith the first time as his Lavarentiy Beria/Heinrich Müller to rewrite existing US law in order to indict and prosecute his most dangerous opponent to reelection in 2012, Governor Bob McDonald. SCOTUS unanimously rejected that conviction while naming Jack Smith a Hitlerian/Soviet style police state fascist that was a threat to American separation of powers. But by then, SCOTUS was one Obama election too late to correct that.

      – Using the IRS to censor the free speech of GOP non-profit voter groups during the campaign before the 2012 election. Again, like the McDonald conviction, the courts rejected that one Obama election too late.

      – and of course, paying for the felonious Russia Dossier, and then sending his Attorney Generals and FBI Directors to perjure themselves to FISA in order to attempt to destroy Trump and put Clinton in office. The courts have yet to correct that by prosecuting any of the unindicted felons from Obama’s Attorney Generals, FBI Directors, and the DoJ and FBI at large who committed those crimes. Like Nazis in Hitler’s Germany, Soviets and Democrats controlling a country don’t go to jail,

      I don’t think that comparison between Hitler and Obama – yes, both elected as was emphasized – is what the original poster really wanted to illustrate.

      1. “Using the IRS to censor the free speech of GOP non-profit voter groups during the campaign before the 2012 election.”

        No voter groups were censored. Every organization needs to have accountants to ensure the books and tax status are properly maintained. If there is an audit, those accountants send the requested documentation. It was found afterwards that there was no focused effort; that all non-profits are treated equally and that the GOP related ones were making false claims about being singled out. The IRS has far too much to keep an eye on to add more focus, but the automation will detect discrepancies among the various submissions and it is likely that those GOP non-profits, being recently established, screwed up. For example, filing under the 501(c)(3) conditions:

        “Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.”

        1. A Democrat commie lied: No voter groups were censored.

          Justice Department pays damages to settle lawsuits filed by conservative groups over IRS scrutiny
          https://www.reuters.com/article/legal/justice-department-settles-with-conservative-groups-over-irs-scrutiny-idUSKBN1CV1TX/
          Amid outcry over revelations that Internal Revenue Service specialists specifically targeted conservative groups for scrutiny before the 2012 elections, President Barack Obama said Monday that the tax agency employees’ reported conduct was “outrageous” and “contrary to our traditions.”

          The Obama administration IRS admitted it was wrong when it based screenings of the groups’ applications on their names or policy positions, subjected the groups to heightened scrutiny and delays and demanded unnecessary information from the groups, the agreement in the Washington case said.

          You’re an incredibly poor liar: the recently retired Oval Office House Plant could do better.

          Now if your lie were true, then you must have an explanation for why the IRS’s Loretta Lynch pled the 5th Amendment when subpoenaed to testify and then fled into obscurity?

          If that were true, why did newly reelected Obama pay out MILLIONS in taxpayer dollars in damages after the IRS was sued for censoring those groups?

          Going to stay to defend your lies… or do as usual: lie and run and hide?

          Speaking of lying and then running to hide… is this you, Dennis McIntyre?

      2. Even more illustrative of their failed argument was the installation of Kamala Harris as a candidate. As a candidate in the first round she was unable to garner even one percent support. Miraculously due to her lack of penis and melatonin she was vaulted into the VP slot. Second run, no primary no nothing right to the leading candidate for the unDemocratic position. Before her was their vile puss filled Queen of Corruption, Hillary that simply pushed the leading primary candidate out of the way and summarily LOST in a fair election.

        Thank God for President Trump, flaws and perfections it seems he’s our last hope of salvaging our country.
        Perp walk time Big Don, line them up!

  7. You frequently defend the 1st Amendment and I agree, free speech is important. However, there are real world consequences for actions regardless of the legality. For decades society handled the consequences. Today, contractual clauses in employment contracts and social media help people live by the axiom “Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should” or as they say today “FAFO”. For those who choose to publicly spew hate: you probably won’t go to jail but you might lose your job or your business.

  8. Kudos to the other posters that have pointed out we already have a ‘No King’s Day’: it’s called Independence Day, otherwise known as the fourth of July. These people are such illiterate and privileged clowns – the old aristocracy never died, it just started wearing a mask. This time there’s no need for guillotines; we can get the job done with votes, and apparently, memes. 😂

    The one thing that remains unsettling is just how many of our so-called educators are pretty much full-on brainwashed, puerile, and hostile, if not outright violent (there are many factors involved in that, spanning years). I and others have remarked that we have an entire generation of Patty Hearsts on our hands, and we are going to have to figure out what to do with them, eventually. For now – let’s keep the votes and memes flowing.

    These are not serious people, and most of us are awake to that fact now, not ‘woke’. The irony of paid for portests and that ‘professional protester’ is an actual job should pretty much say it all. I would not send my kid to a modern college of any kind – from Ivy League to community college – without first preparing them to resist the programming. At best I’d encourage them to pursue a trade and skip it all together. Modern degrees aren’t even great as toilet paper, and every employer should be on alert. The modern left is a dumpster fire that does not seem to realize the gasoline they are pouring is being poured on themselves.

    1. As a result of elections

      Textbook case of weasel words. He wasn’t elected chancellor. You’re trying to hide your previous error.

    2. @Anonymous

      No, you are a dumb ass, and we are smarter than that. I know you know better yourself and are just trolling. Try Huffpo, not this site. Misinformation hits a brick wall and shatters into a million tiny pieces here.

    3. “As a result of elections, Hitler became Chancellor.”

      If so – just like Obama! Who was also a raging anti-Semitic, fundamentally changed their countries (without using the established government process), and vicious police state fascists, both of them!

      The resemblance is uncanny! Including being incredibly mesmerizing speakers for their gullible, brainwashed minions as well!

    4. As a result of elections, we voted Biden, the Democrat party out of the WH. Since then, Trump has secured the border, is deporting millions of criminals, bringing industry back to America, increased energy production, peace in the Middle-East, pending Hamas does not screw that up. Is working on getting a real cease fire in the Russian/Ukraine war. Is calling out anti-semtic colleges and universities who favor pro-Hamas protesters.
      Your lame and failed attempts to compare Trump to Hitler fall flat.

  9. “If you think on it, we have a “No Kings day,” every July 4th.”

    UpstateFarmer, if you think of it, it’s actually a demonstration of our continued ignorance that the Colonists were not oppressed by a King. But instead, it was a freely elected government of their freely chosen fellow citizens that were 100% responsible for the abuse of taxes, directing troops that were their fellow citizens to make war on them, etc. The king in those days merely served the function of what new America chose to replace him with – a Secretary Of State.

    One could argue there’s no harm on putting the blame on King George to invoke patriotism and protection of our republic. The danger is every single time we do that, we ignore how dangerous and abusive a government that is elected in free and fair regular elections can be to the voters who put them in power.

    The abusive Stamp Act of 1765 and the Townshend Acts of 1767 were just that – acts promulgated by the elected British Parliament, not the decrees of King George.

    We still don’t make that connection to the elected government’s abuse heaped on the Colonists 200+ years later, after eight years of police state fascism under Obama and then again the four years of Obama’s Third Term under Biden.

    In over 200 years, the military model of “lessons learned” after training exercises, deployments, battles, and wars never has managed to cross over into the American mindset as a whole where governance is concerned.

    “Madison’s Notes” reports the Framers regularly references abusive governments and not so much kings. They were very aware who was responsible for the abuse. Many of us are familiar with Madison’s Notes, but we still don’t make the connection to how dangerous freely elected governments were and still are under tyrants who are elected like Obama and Biden.

    1. Anonymous,

      Mark Levin once pointed out something most of us don’t really contemplate, and that’s that the very seeds of our own destruction of this nation, are baked into our very system of government.

      This is precisely why our founders were adamant that this republican form of government was meant *ONLY* for a virtuous people, and none other.

      Also, while our founders gave us a sectarian government, they very much wanted the religious morals and values of it’s leaders to guide their decision-making process.

      As the American people become more and more unmoored from morality and virtue, so our government does as well, and that can’t end well for any of us.

      Oh, and for you folks who say that being in power equals elected, how do you explain the Bolsheviks, Castro, and countless other despots and dictators throughout history?

      1. Democracy has been of the restricted-vote variety since its inception in Greece and perpetuation in Rome and Washington D.C. The Founders/Framers put vote restrictions by state legislatures comprised of “virtuous people” in the Constitution to keep America rational. One-man, one-vote democracy ends up as the “dictatorship of the proletariat” (the hired help) every time.

        In 1789, turnout was 11.6%, and voters must have been male, European, 21, with 50 lbs. Sterling or 50 acres.

        Incidentally, China has the closest structure to that of the American Founders—a severely restricted-vote republic with a Congress elected by 7% of the population and a president elected by the elected Congress.
        ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

        “the people are nothing but a great beast…

        I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”

        – Alexander Hamilton
        _________________________

        “The true reason (says Blackstone) of requiring any qualification, with regard to property in voters, is to exclude such persons, as are in so mean a situation, that they are esteemed to have no will of their own.”

        “If it were probable that every man would give his vote freely, and without influence of any kind, then, upon the true theory and genuine principles of liberty, every member of the community, however poor, should have a vote… But since that can hardly be expected, in persons of indigent fortunes, or such as are under the immediate dominion of others, all popular states have been obliged to establish certain qualifications, whereby, some who are suspected to have no will of their own, are excluded from voting; in order to set other individuals, whose wills may be supposed independent, more thoroughly upon a level with each other.”

        – Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, 1775
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        “[We gave you] a [restricted-vote] republic, if you can keep it.”

        – Ben Franklin, 1787

  10. Here’s a novel idea:

    Political party leaders – from both parties – simply ask voters what’s important to voters in order of priority.

    The voter surveys would be fill-in-the-blank instead of multiple-choice (where the party leaders choose priorities at the bottom of most voters’ concerns).

      1. I was thinking the same thing, but with the war in Ukraine…
        Why not let the Russian people vote on whether the war should continue?

        1. How about we let the people living in the Eastern areas of the Ukraine decide by which country they wish to be governed?

          1. Sorry, they are dead or moved to Poland… why don’t we let the Owners of the land decide, Blackrock?

          2. Russia ran a large number of illegal Russian immigrants over the border into Ukraine to act as a foothold operation and generate false-flag abuses of the Ukrainians living there. It was a pretext to annex the land.

            1. I know about Russia pulling the same shit Israel pulls with land occupation. I truly do not care. I don’t think we should be sending money or arms to Ukraine or Israel. Neither matters one whit to me.

              1. OldFish, in World War II at great expense in lives and treasure we established the principle that aggression shall not be rewarded. So we need to help uphold that principle by supporting the Ukrainians who just want their land and freedom back.

  11. I watch a number of clips of the “no kings” mishigas with the participants carrying signs with various complaints. The thing that struck me not one sign demanding to “end crime” or “stop drugs”, issues that directly impact them, their families and communities. The only signs I noticed were reflecting displeasure with a king whom I suspect they were referring to the king of England as the US has only elected officials.

    1. Can you imagine why those cheering at football games hold up signs of support for their team rather than signs demanding to end crime or stop drugs? How odd that those opposed to a guy acting as a monarch is getting pushback. Did you see that he’s going to sue the Federal government, put his DoJ pick to negotiate the prosecution and the defense and intends to pocket $230 Million for playing both sides?

  12. The backdrop to these ‘educators’ vile performative political theater is that there is an ever increasing demand for charter and parochial schools in America. In some cities like Chicago, there are waiting lists of black American parents thousands long, hoping for a spot to get their children out of the clutches of the unionized public school teachers and the school boards they control and who do their bidding.

    The examples that we see with the culls Professor Turley is writing about in this column is exactly why there is an ever increasing demand for both charter and parochial schools. Schools who demand their teachers live their lives like they would expect their neighbors where they live to do. Teachers like the examples highlighted here do not survive long when employed and paid by the parents of those schools – if they ever manage to get hired by subterfuge in the first place.

    And that is why the Democrats from Bolshevik Barack’s early political activist days forward during the Clinton era, have been fighting fang and claw to prevent families having full access to those charter and parochial schools. And at the same time, those Democrats like the Obamas and Clintons never allowed their children to spend one day in a Chicago or Washington DC public school.

    100% private charter schools for their children, least they be contaminated by the very unionized teachers they look to for tens of millions of dollars in donations and hundreds of thousands of votes.

    1. Wow – That is such an accurate view of today’s “public” schools. They have been absolutely ruined by the left, and non-government education is the solution. Very well said.

    2. The schools in Republican controlled states generally perform worse than those in Democrat lead states.

      What one normally sees as a Democratic party failing is simply the result of media concentration on the results of the conservatives mining out a city and leaving it broken and in disrepair when they head to some place else to exploit.

      There have been no take-overs of distressed cities by Republicans that has resulted in a turnaround.

  13. A few points about “no kings” . . .

    – The GOP had its own “no kings” event on 11/5/24. More than 77 million of us showed up to protest King “Joe Biden”
    – Someone on the internet has come up with a genius invention to prevent kings: why not have a presidential election every four years? Genius, I say. Never been done before. Wish I had thought of it.
    – If there were a real King, then there could not be any “No Kings” rallies
    – The amazing – almost revolutionary – thing accomplished by the “No Kings” rally is as follows: America will stay the same as before and still not have kings.

    That last one is courtesy of the Bee:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/success-after-weekend-of-no-kings-protests-america-will-now-still-not-have-any-kings

      1. Good point Upstate. The rallies were a therapy session for white liberals whose preferred candidate lost in a free and fair election on 11/5/24.

        I support white [elderly] Boomers using their First Amendment rights to hold a mass therapy session about the fact that Trump won! But to call him a king is utterly preposterous. He won the popular vote. He is enacting the exact agenda he promised he would. They are actually protesting American democracy. The only appropriate response is to laugh!

        -Batya Ungar-Sargon

        https://x.com/bungarsargon/status/1980481661134381184

          1. I’ll take a wild guess that you are fully-vaxxed and don the latest rainbow fashion gear. Your obsession with Hitler and “what if” nonsense needs to be placed back where you found it.

          2. So, all popular voting is bad? Are you insane?

            Hitler liked dogs. So anyone who owns a dog is Hitler? Is your IQ above 75?

            Plus, Hitler did not win the popular vote. He was never elected Chancellor. He was appointed. If he had been elected, the Nazis wouldn’t have needed the Reichstag fire.

              1. He was against the war before he was for it.

                Why did Hitler get a suntan? Because some people know how to tie shoe laces.

          3. Hitler was Appointed Chancelor in 1933 – he was not elected. The Nazi party “won” the election but fell approx 40 seats short of what was required to control the reichstag and form a government

            AS chancelor and with the support of the NAZI party and two other parties he was able to pass the 1933 enabling act which significantly increased his power.

            But it was not until a 1938 plebescite that Hitler received a clear majority of votes.

          4. “Hitler won the popular vote. Then look what happened afterwards.”

            The son Hitler never had, his doppelgänger Obama, also won the popular vote. Then look at what happened afterwards as Obama, like Hitler, fundamentally changed the country who elected him without putting those changes to a vote. For that, both had their party phones and pens and knew how to use them.

            Gives one pause that we elected our version of Hitler not once, but twice!

      2. Yes. People can only exercise their constitutional rights to assemble if you think their reason for doing so is good enough. Otherwise, they cannot.
        Time and time again, freedom of expression gets discouraged on a free speech blog.
        How strange.
        You old farts seem more pro-censorship,
        justifying punitive measures against offensive speech that you disapprove of.

        1. Don’t be obtuse. Nobody stopped the peaceful exercise of Constitutional rights.

          Criticizing and mocking the reason-challenged nitwits of the No-Kings cluster is simply another exercising of Constitutional rights.

          Who thought up the “No Kings” theme anyway? It’s completely lame, lacks creativity and depth, and is emminently worthy of being mocked.

          Woke – today’s word for retarded

            1. OldManFromKS,
              Well said. Even Bill Maher has been saying the Hitler comparisons are idiotic. However, our TDS afflicted annony morons just keep repeating the same thing over and over again, as if it were true. The fun part is seeing all these supposedly smart people have their TDS like melt downs, like Robert DeNiro did on MSNBC the other day. The sad part is all these people who attended the No Kings day protest, actually believe this nonsense. It is going to be fun to watch them get into another tizzy leading up to the 2028 election that Trump is “We see it we see it we see it all the time, he will not want to leave,” De Niro blathered, adding “He set it up with, I guess he’s the Goebbels of the cabinet, Stephen Miller.”

              “He’s a Nazi. Yes, he is, and he’s Jewish and he should be ashamed of himself,” De Niro disgustingly asserted.

              Perhaps this is why the annony moron is so desperate to push the whole “Hitler” thing. The No Kings day failure, demented DeNiro spewing wild conspiracy theories. Not a good look for our leftist friends.

        2. “You old farts seem more pro-censorship, justifying punitive measures against offensive speech that you disapprove of.”

          Your old fart Biden isn’t in the audience you are hoping will you seriously,

          The AutoPen President would be the Oval Office House Plant who ordered the FBI to have Facebook, Twitter, etc censor and eliminate free speech that he found offensive and disapproved of, even before an election was pending.

          Projection:
          Channeling one’s actions onto others typically refers to the psychological concept of projection, where an emotionally disturbed individual unconsciously or deliberately attributes their own thoughts, feelings, and anti-social or criminal behaviors onto someone else. This is an internal defense mechanism which allows a person to avoid confronting their own behavior and guilt by seeing them as the thoughts and actions of someone else who they despise and hate instead.

      1. Really? The old Trump = Hitler canard is worn out. Find something new. Use more than two brain cells.

        1. “Really? The old Trump = Hitler canard is worn out. Find something new. Use more than two brain cells.”

          NO. NO! AND, HELL NO!!!

          Encourage them to keep doing EXACTLY what they are doing. It was so successful in the 2024 election, why in the world would you want them to stop expending all their energy doing this and try something else instead.

      2. “This fails to recognize that things change. Germany didn’t have any Fuhrers, either, until it did.”

        You failed to recognize and include one other thing: Germany didn’t have any communists running their country until they did. You too young to remember their choice of Angela Merkel?

        Let me help you with that. Merkel grew up in the communist GDR (East Germany), with her first taste of power being a leader in the GDR’s Free Communist Youth. Followed by three years as the spokesman of the GDR’s communist government.

        So you forgot to add: “Germany didn’t have any communists running their country either, until it did.”

        No need to thank me for informing you of events that happened long before you were ever born into an America where Democrats alternate between fawning over communists and Nazis.

  14. Meanwhile, MSNBC has a whopping 41,000 viewers per hour during the day time and 65,000 viewers per hour in prime time. The viewing by the 19 to 25 year old segment has fallen off a cliff. Take hope. There indoctrination of the young has miserably failed. It’s obvious that a majority of young people don’t accept the calling for the murder of Charlie Kirk and other conservatives is being rejected by the future leaders of the nation. Trump said “fight for your right to free speech.” “Fight for your right to not be thrown in jail by the leftist.” “Fight for the right to stop those who would indoctrinate and mutilate your children for the sake of their twisted ideology.” The youth of the nation saw what the left is all about on that fateful day in Butler. The battle continues led by the young courageous.

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