So It Begins: The European Union Unleashes the DSA on X with Initial $140 Million Fine

For years, some of us in the free speech community have warned about the threat of the European Union to free speech, particularly in the enactment of the infamous Digital Services Act (DSA). The EU has virtually declared war on free speech and is targeting American companies. That war just began with the first DSA fine. Not surprisingly, X was the chosen target — a company blamed by many in the EU and the U.S. for rolling back free-speech protections.

In a historic speech in Munich this year, Vice President J.D. Vance confronted the Europeans over their attacks on free speech, declaring, “If you are running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you.” However, the EU has long worked in conjunction with many on the American left in seeking to force companies to censor Americans.

One of the lowest moments came after Elon Musk bought Twitter on a pledge to restore free-speech protections. Clinton called upon European officials to force Elon Musk to censor American citizens under the DSA. This is a former democratic presidential nominee calling upon Europeans to force the censorship of Americans.

She was joined by another former democratic presidential nominee, John Kerry, who called for government crackdowns on free speech.

In my book on free speech and various columns, I write about the DSA as one of the greatest assaults on free speech in history. As I wrote in the book:

“Under the DSA, users are ’empowered to report illegal content online, and online platforms will have to act quickly.’ This includes speech that is viewed not only as ‘disinformation’ but also ‘incitement.’ European Commission Executive Vice President Margrethe Vestager has been one of the most prominent voices seeking international censorship. At the passage of the DSA, Vestager was ecstatic in declaring that it is ‘not a slogan anymore, that what is illegal offline should also be seen and dealt with as illegal online. Now it is a real thing. Democracy’s back.’”

After the Vance speech, American politicians and journalists quickly added their voices of condemnation. CBS anchor Margaret Brennan confronted Secretary of State Marco Rubio to suggest that Vance’s support for free speech was outrageous because he was “standing in a country where free speech was weaponized to conduct a genocide.”  Brennan’s bizarre suggestion that free speech contributed to the death camps was amplified by Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA), who accused Vance of using “some of the same language that Hitler used to justify the Holocaust.”

In the wake of the Munich speech, leading anti-free-speech figures from around the world gathered at the World Forum in Berlin. I was one of the few speakers from the free-speech community at the conference which declared “A New World Order with European Values.”  Various Americans were present to reaffirm the worst about the United States as a nation descending into tyranny.

The two most celebrated figures were Bill and Hillary Clinton, who also criticized the current Administration.

After returning from Berlin, I testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee and warned about the growing threat to free speech posed by the use of the DSA.

Since then, the EU has moved forward with its aggressive campaign against U.S. companies and figures who refuse to yield to its expansive censorship demands.

This is the first fine under the DSA and the EU officials acknowledged that it will lay the foundation for additional penalties to come to force companies to comply with EU “values” on free speech.

The European Commission has imposed a €120 million ($140 million) fine on X after finding that it misled users with its paid-for blue checkmark verification symbol, failed to provide researchers with access to data, and did not properly set up an advertising repository.  X has 60 days to develop solutions to address the issues and 90 days to implement the changes, or it may face additional fines.

Under the DSA, the EU can impose fines of up to 6% of an online platform’s annual global revenue for failing to address illegal content, disinformation, or transparency requirements. It is still investigating X as well as several other major US tech firms, including Apple, Google, and Meta, under the DSA and the Digital Markets Act. This includes investigations for failing to carry out demands for censorship, including of American citizens.

This is just the first salvo in a war that some of us have warned is coming. We cannot be passive at this moment. The EU is threatening the very indispensable right that has long defined us as a people. Many in the United States are rooting for the Europeans to roll back free-speech protections at X and Meta. Some have appeared before the EU to call for this type of action. They could use the EU to achieve abroad what they have failed to accomplish in the United States. The results will be the same for Americans, who will find themselves subject to European censors and “values.”

434 thoughts on “So It Begins: The European Union Unleashes the DSA on X with Initial $140 Million Fine”

  1. I want free speech – but I want accurate speech.
    I don’t want someone to spew something they say is ‘fact’ when it is verified as the exact opposite.

    1. Pre-Kindergarten thinking. You can, and should, always verify for yourself.

      You want Gerber brand information– safe for babies.

      1. In Kindergarten and Sunday School, we were taught it was wrong to lie. I bet you had a similar moral upbringing.
        What’s happened to your moral compass that lying in public is OK if done by adults? Each of us is supposed to defend ourself from liars? That’s a pretty low bar. Where’s the condemnation of deceiving others? Is there any sense of acceptable public behavior left in your mind?

      2. Can you verify that anyone is moving drugs from Venezuela? Have you been there? Have you bought drugs to be moved from there? Is this a matter of who you choose to believe when you cannot verify information yourself?

  2. “If you are running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you.”

    Funny thing. The Republicans in Congress ran when their voters came to “peacefully” make their thoughts known during the January 6th breach of the Capitol building. Senator “Chicken Legs” Josh Hawley is infamous for running in fear of his own voters during that event.

    1. Wasn’t Vance referring to leaders being afraid of how Europeans could vote? You’re talking about fear of being physically attacked by an angry mob? Is that a fair comparison? Which way should government leadership be chosen…..votes or mob violence? Google brown shirts.

  3. Perhaps Musk should openly dedicate the amount of the EU fine to programs to abolish the Fascist EU.

    Maybe he can wake much of Europe up to the fact that the EU and UK, Germany and France are actually Fascist and are destroying Europe.

    And he can add the amount of future fines to the same projects.

    That might slow their zest for levying fascist, thought control fines.

    He has enormous influence. I bet sober folks in Delaware regret that their activist judges went after him. There is more than one way to skin a government.

  4. For those who insist below that AfD is not Germany’s most popular party.

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/far-right-afd-becomes-germanys-most-popular-party-as-chancellor-merzs-approval-plummets/3657540

    “Germany’s far-right AfD party has overtaken Chancellor Friedrich Merz’s Christian Democrats in a new poll released on Tuesday, becoming the country’s most popular political party.”

    Calling AfD ‘far right’ [nobody is ever called far left] this publication shows at the outset that it is not a friend of the AfD. Must have been hard to admit the truth.

    Meanwhile, the Fascists [Merz and others] in charge of the German government are doing their best to ban AfD outright.

    1. Some 74% of German voters don’t support the AfD. There are 6 other parties in the Bundestag; the pie is split 7 ways and AfD happens to be the current large slice in the polls, but not in the government. Wait for an actual election to decide if this is just loud mouths vs. actual support.

      1. Anon– “Wait for an actual election to decide if this is just loud mouths vs. actual support.”

        Is it an “actual election” when one party is disqualified from being on the ballot?

        Or is that just a charade by a Fascist state?

      2. Fascist France also removed Le Pen from the ballot just as Fascist Germany is doing to AfD, Romania annulled an election and the Fascist UK is now beginning lawfare against Farage.

        Remember, too, that Fascists in several states banned Trump from the election until the Supreme Court intervened.

        Not hard to believe that these SS minded folks would also cheat on voting. Hence the opposition to voter ID, and cleaning up voter rolls. Al Capone was a better person than some of these Fascists who want to ban ‘misinformation’ and allow voting ‘irregularities’ and block ‘wrong’ candidates from ballots.

        There is a lot of corruption afloat.

  5. “My quibble is minor – Socialism can not exist without Government – it is therefore inherently Political.”

    Fascists do not wish to give up power. The theory, based on Marx and Engels, is that during the transition, government withers away, so the intentions of the leaders are quite different.

  6. I notice the fear of so many people entering the anonymous rather than a name. It shows the fear and outright loss of credibility and actual disdain for freedom of speech. All of you should be ashamed.

    1. Taken from his book The Indispensable Right, Prof. Turley believes that citizens (and foreigners, since you can’t tell who is who) should be allowed to speak anonymously in the Public Square.

      He doesn’t spend much time analyzing the consequences of removing authenticity, responsibility, truth and accountability as requirements for access, which leaves me thinking a person of his reknownd could do much better — better than sidestepping a key issue surrounding the quality and dependability of speech, and ultimately how “free” people feel to contribute ideas in to the public realm.

      Of course, putting your name and reputation out there attached to a comment exposes you to vicious, ad-hominem
      defamation and even sometimes thinly veiled threats mentioning firearms as the key to “persuasion”. Turley never considers whether standards of public conduct ought to be upheld, or how. He seems to have bought into radical individualism with regard to “free speech” — all freedom and no responsibility — the most strident, militant, even psychopathic individual hogs the microphone, and intimates anyone else wanting to have their turn with it. When you disagree, you attack the person, that way you don’t have to have any original ideas.

      Turley’s theory of public speech is close to “anything goes”. It elevates the boorish, ill-informed loudmouth who can barely read, but knows how to bully others using language. It amplifies the ability to use public deceptions for political advantage. It cedes to foreign enemies the freedom to imposter as Americans online, and reach into the mindspace of impressional teens. His only exception is “defamation”, but barely any deterrence of character assassination if you’re a “public figure” (a category never defined in any lawbook, improvised by the Warren Supreme Court in Sullivan v NYT).

      The thing about JT’s definition of free-speech is that it’s solipsistic — his main concern is the speech rights of those who share his viewpoints. He refuses to look at the other side of the coin — those who would use public speech to try to attack his family’s sense of safety and security, those who aspire to brainwash his children reaching across global borders, or to fill their heads with porn and other decadent trash. He’s not concerned at all with “function” — the ability of the public to make good policy decisions and leadership choices in realtime. To him,
      “rage”, alienation, factionalized media and political dysfunction are OK effects of free speech and should be tolerated.

      To me, that’s just escapistm. I’m hoping he’ll think things through critically before writing another book on free speech. I hope he’ll take up the topic of responsibilities that attach to published speech — and practical means of exacting those responsibilities where missing.

    2. I notice the fear of so many people entering the anonymous rather than a name.

      If you’re so intellectually bereft that you can’t rebutt or expand on a post’s content, while ignoring posts are that are trolling, whining that you need a username attached to help you do any or all of that, you are pathetic.

      Move from the BS login of WordPress that at least some of us have to go through and are tired of, then see if you have to come back with your whining complaints.

      1. What is the BS login issue that you having and perhaps others or Darren can help? For a while I had a problem with my username showing up until I figured out somehow that I could use a different public display name.

    1. An interesting and misleading way to say that. AfD is not popular with 80% of the Germans. Germany has a large number of small parties and AfD does appear to be the largest, but most of Germany doesn’t like it.

      It’s main constituency is in former East Germany, among a group who still feels unhappy about not rising to former West German living standards and so looks to punish the West Germans with a pro-Russian stance and a revitalization of the old Nazi purity stance against immigrants. Unlike the West German side, East Germany did not get rebuilt after WWII as the Russians wanted to punish them. The AfD wants the former West Germans to suffer now just as much as they did then and being pro-Russian is the easy way to do that.

      1. An interesting and misleading way to say that. AfD is not popular with 80% of the Germans.

        An interesting and failed attempt to mislead, ignoring the fact that the government has prohibited them from elections as the post you’re taking issue with pointed out.

        Ignoring a government that decides they will prohibit who can run in elections – like state governments that attempted to prohibit Trump running in American elections. You didn’t notice the similarity… now how odd is that!

        A question for you while you give your analysis they’re supposedly about punishing West Germans:

        If they’re so unpopular: why the necessity of the German government reverting back to that good ol’ East German police state fascism that spawned Angela Merkel to ban that party?

        They loved them that East German influence with their neo-communist Angela Merkel… if this party is nothing but unpopular and powerless East Germany remnants, why the necessity of going police state fascist and banning them?

        1. AfD is not banned nor are they prohibited from elections. The party appears to hold 152 seats in the Bundestag.

          The Germans have experience when a minority party comes to power with ill intent. AfD has expressed significant, increasingly ill intent and their 20% support is more than sufficient power to do damage. Their constitution has guards against a repeat of the 1930s.

          When AfD members are hunted, shot on the street, or put into prison and tortured or starved to death then you can make some comparison to the Stasi.

          According to the US Constitution the states have the right to handle their elections as they see fit. That includes not having those who promoted violent revolt against the voters have another chance at election. Unlike Germany, America has no constitutional requirement to prevent what happened to Germany in the 1930s.

          In Germany it was goons in brown shirts going after Romani and Jewish people; in America it is low-IQ thugs in ICE uniforms going after moms dropping off children at school.

          1. There’s no moral equivalence. The brown shirts were unofficial political thugs…just an organized criminal gang.

            ICE are badged law officers who swear an oath to the Constitution. They are out there enforcing the law.
            If a person is ignoring an Order of Final Removal, they deserve to be arrested by ICE. What parent is going to risk being hauled away by ICE because they are defying the Order?….one totally irresponsible as a parent. One too irresponsible to feel sympathy for. I feel sympathy for the child whose parent is so reckless as to not self-deport in an orderly fashion under those circumstances. But that child should go with the parent…i.e. voluntary deportation for sake of family cohesion.

            1. They can swear an oath, but there are documented cases of ICE agents stealing property during those ICE arrests, including vehicles, and using them for personal and, very likely, on the job.

              They are arresting them after they have passed the citizenship test and while waiting in the courthouse to take the citizenship oath. At the completion of the legal path to citizenship.

              Among their numbers are far too many low-IQ, low-education, untrained thugs.

              They are also arresting, detaining, and destroying property of US Citizens.

          2. According to the US Constitution the states have the right to handle their elections as they see fit.

            If you read that Constitution, you’d see that only the elected legislatures of the states get to make and change the rules for elections as they see fit. It doesn’t say that police state fascist Democrats get to send unindicted criminals like Marc Elias and an army of lawyers to cut deals with judges and other public officers to change the state’s voting regulations to be the way they want them. Oh wait…. nothing to see here! That never happened!

            And who knew that Biden’s Guest Democrat Voting MS13 gang members were actually tranny moms dropping off their children at school – it always looks like drugs they’re dropping off.

            And as you brought up the subject of low-IQ thugs… are you REALLY the best the Marxist Democrat Borg has to offer to attempt to be party apparatchiks.

            You really are the definition of low-IQ Marxist Useless Idiot to believe that flinging the same BS that got you kicked to the curb in the 2024 election is suddenly going to work now.

            But then, communists always believe the next time they attempt communism it will work. Why don’t believe that Lyin’ Like A Biden will work the next time!

        2. First off Nobody has banned Afd, Angela Merkel certainly didn’t, BUT it would not be fascism to ban fascism. AfD is a fascist party and the same as swastika, actual Nazi party and all of their accoutrements are against the law in Germany, afd is, in fact and practice, a Nazi offshoot party.

          For Germany, as part of their resolution with their participation in the entirety of that crime against humanity known as The Holocaust, they have created a legal structure under which they do in fact have ability to ban extremist rightwing parties if they find their society being drawn back down into heII where they emerged from.

          Government and law, bottom line, exists to attempt to exert influence upon it’s people to obtain a politically virtuous operation of society for the best interests of itself, it’s certainly not a far stretch to ban a party that’s a copycat of a psychopathy that plunged its state and the entire world into a vicious, murderous madness and bloodlust dressed as a political ideology, especially given their intimate knowledge of what allowed it the first time.

          Nevermind the fact that spreading empirical factual inaccuracies on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and social media in general are not even a little bit of a “civil right”, the idea that buying ads on social media to break the minds of innocent viewers with traumatic propaganda for the purpose of radicalizing citizens to violence against their neighbors cannot be a “free speech” issue in any modern intelligent society.

          These tactics used in these posts, the imagery and underlying tones, are well documented as having specific effects on the minds of viewers, they’re one of the most effective forms of 4th & 5th generation warfare during the entire 20th century. This is not about free speech, this is about whether a society will allow its citizens to wage war against it’s fellow citizens using an innocuous, passive but very powerful form of destructive force that can/will crack the foundations of said society if permitted free reign to do so.

      2. Have you been to the East lately? It’s much nicer than western Germany, so that can’t be the reason they support the afd.

    1. EU is an economic cooperative. What Germany does inside of Germany has nothing to do with the EU.

      I rather doubt that any complaints were due to criticism alone; it is more likely they also criticized him along with saying illegal things, such as specific calls for violence.

      Backing Trump simply proves his claim, that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose a single vote.

  7. I applaud the Europeans for taking efforts to protect their public square from outright deceptions, intimidations and suborning of illegal activity. The part that stinks is having govt. bureaucrats be the ones making those judgments and levying the fines. This should be done by juries of ordinary Europeans, so that common sense voiced in a unanimous jury verdict expresses the power of the community to uphold values and standards of public conduct.

    If the US still had any real thought leadership in this area, we’d have repealed or revised Section 230, and allowed lawsuits against the mega-platforms for lapses of public decency. If we had led with such an approach, I think Europe would have followed. Instead, America was tied up in rancorous paralysis fed intentionally by the very platforms needing to be held accountable for harm as all other publishers are. A few huge corporations and their elitist lobbyists have figured out how to overpower majority rule by our representatives in Congress.

    Our country has lost its mojo, and now can’t plan its way out of a paper bag.

    Neither the Europeans not the US is handing regulation of the internet companies competently. However awkward and outright authoritarian, at least the Europeans are taking affirmative steps to tame the beast. Americans are 99% brainwashed that we don’t have the power to do anything about it. Yet, we could turn the tide by repealing Section 230.

    1. Anon: “I applaud the Europeans for taking efforts to protect their public square from outright deceptions, intimidations and suborning of illegal activity.”

      @Anon

      Are you Macron, Merz, Starmer or just Hitler? Y’all sound alike.

      1. I went on to say leaders and their bureaucrats should NOT have any powers as speech police. That would rule out Macron, Merz, Starmer or just Hitler making those decisions. Did you read that far into my comment? Or, just jump to your “use vs. them” instinct after the first sentence?

        1. Anon– “Neither the Europeans not the US is handing regulation of the internet companies competently. However awkward and outright authoritarian, at least the Europeans are taking affirmative steps to tame the beast. ”
          AND
          ” I went on to say leaders and their bureaucrats should NOT have any powers as speech police.”

          I SUSPECT you don’t realize your two statements don’t make sense together. You don’t want politicians and bureaucrats regulating police but you applaud ‘regulations.’

          Who enforces regulations?

          WHICH IS THE GREATER DANGER?

          An open platform where anyone, even you, can post a correction to nonsense?
          OR
          A closed system controlled by bureaucrats and politicians whose first goal is to preserve their perks and power?

    2. I applaud the Europeans for taking efforts to protect their public square from outright deceptions, intimidations and suborning of illegal activity.

      It’s noble of you to not steal any of their thunder by not congratulating Biden and his FBI for doing similar here in the USA.

      1. You didn’t read the part about giving Juries those decisions, not bureaucrats. You misrepresented my posting.

        1. Use a name and write more clearly. Your opening paragraphs define you.

          Many folks here, and I am one, decline to read long screeds by someone who is anonymous and can’t easily be distinguished from the many other anonymous fools.

        2. “You didn’t read the part about giving Juries those decisions, not bureaucrats. You misrepresented my posting.”

          I read how you completely ignored similar activity going on right here at home from your very first sentences to instead divert to focus on Europe and what Europeans and Europeans should be doing. And now you’re misrepresenting what you posted while avoiding our problem right here. After all, in populist politics, you can’t go wrong here leading in a post by bemoaning Europe and what they’re currently doing.

          We’ve had these “outright deceptions, intimidations and suborning of illegal activity” here in the USA at the very least going back to Obama and Democrat police state fascism first coming into office in 2008, just a few short years after Germany elected the former East German communist Angela Merkel. We elected him to show our inclusiveness, while Germany elected Merkel to show they were inclusive of former East German communist party leaders like Merkel.

          The German government of that time under Merkel wasn’t doing what Obama did the following eight years – maybe today’s Germany took inspiration and support from Obama and then Biden?

        3. “You didn’t read the part about giving Juries those decisions . . .”

          How does a case get to a jury without a government official *first* being involved?

    3. Section 230 protects internet providers and on-line forums like this one as if they are common carriers. This means that if someone of the public were to post a link to illicit material, such as child sexual abuse that Jonathan Turley would not go to prison as an accomplice/co-conspirator. Under 230 Turley or any similar person or company has only to take reasonable efforts to remove such material and need not take active measures, but to remove them if they are informed of it.

      Take away Section 230 and no sane company or individual will risk having someone plant criminal material on their site and get into felony charge territory.

      Section 230 does not protect the owner/operator of a site or internet service if they themselves are the ones posting illicit materials. An on-line advertising site got taken down because the company was offering editing services to adult companionship vendors where, had they simply posted ads as submitted they should have been protected.

      1. You overstated right off the bat by suggesting repealing Section 230 could send someone who hosts an open forum (like J Turley) could be “sent to prison”. Section 230 protects against civil lawsuit, and the harshest punishment allowable is a $ judgment.

        The impact of rolling back Section 230 would expectably be that the operators of social media apps would want to put much more human judgment into filtering what they publish. Algorithmic agents acting as curators and editors would not protect the company for liability for harm done by their publication.

        Kinda like how media operated in America prior to social media. And that worked much better at national achievement and cohesion than the current rancor, discord and dystopia. Going back isn’t entirely possible,
        but we could well afford to repeal 230 for a period, evaluate the effect, then decide where to go from there.
        What’s repugnant is the tech titans and technophiles brainwashing the majority that we no longer have the power to stop them from doing anything they want. It was that way when Teddy Roosevelt came into office.

        1. pbinca says: What’s repugnant is the tech titans and technophiles brainwashing the majority

          What’s repugnant is the black racist Nikole Hannah-Jones and the New York Times started their racist crap of the 1619 project. Then one of those racist swine posts that line here “America was founded on racism”.

          And you, right after wailing about deceit in social media – jump right in to agree with your fellow Democrat that it was. Are you just a victim of brainwashing to attempt to breath life into the 1619 Project lie?

          You just can’t handle the evil, lying Democrat that you are, not even for a day while you put on your little cosplaying of being a rational human being.

          The Big Lie here is that you’re honest and not corrupt.

        2. “From September 2010 through its seizure by the United States in April 2018, Backpage was the internet’s leading forum for prostitution ads. Evidence at trial showed that the conspirators knowingly promoted prostitution via various marketing strategies. For example, the conspirators engaged in a reciprocal link program with an independent web forum that permitted “johns” to post reviews of prostitution acts with specific women. Additionally, the conspirators used an automated filter and human moderators to remove terms known to indicate sex-for-money, while still allowing the ads to be posted. Through this attempt to sanitize the ads, the conspirators sought “plausible deniability” for what the conspirators knew to be ads promoting prostitution. Over the life of the conspiracy, the conspirators earned more than $500 million. In an effort to preserve the money earned, Lacey, Spear, and Brunst laundered the money through numerous shell companies they created in multiple foreign countries.”

          This was because Section 230 doesn’t protect against editorial decisions.

          But, even if only civil, then that still would leave Turley open to as many civil suits for promoting child sexual abuse material as anyone with the cash to back it could do. Peter Thiel backed the Hulk Hogan suit against Gawker for their editorial actions; repealing 230 makes any website that allows any commentary responsible for anything that is published, even if they don’t exert editorial control.

          Prior to social media companies controlled exactly what they published. On radio they ran a 10 second or more delay when taking calls from the public to ensure no unwanted content got through.

          To see the difficulty with absolute content moderation – watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ5ppf0po3k

  8. “The European Commission has imposed a €120 million ($140 million) fine on X after finding that it misled users with its paid-for blue checkmark verification symbol . . .” (JT)

    The EU should fine itself $140 million for deceiving the public.

    X changed the business model of the blue checkmark *3 years* ago. (A rather common occurrence, especially when a company has a new owner.) The new, now old, meaning of the blue checkmark is very clearly explained on X’s website:

    “Accounts that receive the blue checkmark as part of a Premium subscription will *not* undergo review to confirm that they meet the active, notable and authentic criteria that was used in the previous process. If a Premium subscriber also opts for ID verification, the account will undergo review to confirm that it meets the ID verification criteria.” (Emphasis added)

    1. Explain. When the blue checkmark was first offered, we know that it allowed impostering. Question: How effective is the revised checkmark system against impostering? Were the initial frauduent checkmarks all revoked? Give numbers.

  9. Turley Comes Out As A Nationalist

    On Thursday, the Trump administration released a foreign policy strategy paper. An outline of Trump goals and orientation in global affairs. The paper proclaims the U.S. as a far-right, nationalistic country. And we now support like-minded nationalistic states; including Russia!

    The paper essentially says we’re now a Russian ally. And our former NATO partners are now doomed liberal countries unworthy of respect.
    Because they’re allowing Muslim immigrants to take over.

    In fact the U.S. is now an anti-immigrant nation. We want to preserve Christian Whites. And we encourage Europe to follow our example.

    Never mind that 2 of Trump’s 3 wives were immigrants from East Europe. Never mind that Trump’s mother was an immigrant from Scotland who started as a maid.

    Never mind that Vance’s wife is the daughter of non-White immigrants. Never mind that Marco Rubio is the son of Cuban immigrants. None of these connections should be considered. We’re still anti-immigrant! That’s how dumb it is.

    So when Turley refers to ‘free speech in Europe’, he means Europe must open itself to Russian propaganda. For real! That’s in Trump’s new foreign policy statement. The liberal states of West Europe must allow Russia to support far-right nationalist parties throughout the continent.

    Somehow the logic goes that Putin is respectable and Europe should respect him. Because Donald Trump admires Putin. And with this column Johnathan Turley promotes far-right nationalism as though it’s gone mainstream. It ‘has’, in Turley’s head.

    1. It would help if you posted a link to the foreign policy paper. Your comment is laced with subjective interpretations.

    2. BBBBUUUTTT…. MUH TURLEY!!!!! BBBBUUUTTT…. MUH TRUMP!!!!

      MY NAME IS KAREN AND I AM IN MIDOL WITHDRAWAL.

    3. Turley Comes Out As A Nationalist… The paper proclaims the U.S. as a far-right, nationalistic country.

      I read that paper; all 33 pages of it. None of which supports your statements – instead it confirms that you’re desperately Lyin’ Like A Biden.

      You should thank Trump that gas prices are falling while you attempt this rando storm of Democrat apparatchik false flag gaslighting.

      But you do get some credit for being more imaginative than just a simple BBBBUUUTTTT… MUH TRUMP!!!! I NEED MY BIDEN GODFATHER IMMIGRATION AND FOREIGN POLICY BACK!!!!

    4. The long-winded summary of the Foreign Policy Strategy WH paper above isn’t worth the time to even read. It’s full of misconceptions. Read the document. It’s mostly a traditional Republican FP Strategy, focusses on America remaining the top global superpower, and continuing to attempt to thwart the hostile nations’ attempts to turn the world against us.

      My only criticism of the Strategy is it ignores inescapable global interdependencies. Chem pollution of food systems and water supplies could is slowly poisoning the US population. Since this is a not a traditional “goodGuy v. badGuy” theme in Republican party-think (it necessitates industrial regulations), the temptation is to ignore it. But, the pollutants Asian countries are dumping into the atmospheres and oceans make this an America First priority.

      The spread of virulent disease also is ignored. These pandemics are not going to observe border controls. Therefore, defending the US from disease requires a strong CDC working cooperatively to the other major powers toward binding agreements on disease outbreak, and response.

      The gradual warming of the planet (oceans and air) has become a taboo topic with these guys. That isn’t going to do zilch to stop it from progressing. It seems like a very complex problem requiring broad international cooperation. A position of denial of the future risk looks foolish. The US should acknowledge the impact of greenhouse gasses, and be working aggressively toward non-polluting energy (nuclear fission and fusion). There must be some reality here: the private sector cannot solve fusion without some government funding to cover the riskiest early stages of engineering prototyping.

      That said, we’ll need energy from fossil fuels to make the transition to new energy tech. So, keeping that energy flowing is essential.

      1. pbinca says: It’s full of misconceptions.

        And earlier you agreed with a racist Democrat posting the black racist Democrats’ “1619 Project” claim: ‘America was founded on racism’.

        You’re a walking basket of misconceptions. Whether signing on with the black Democrat racists and their “1619 Project” – just as you enthusiastically signed on and voted for Obama and his vile “America is systematically white racist”.

        You are a swine.

      2. ” defending the US from disease requires a strong CDC working cooperatively to the other major powers toward binding agreements on disease outbreak, and response.”

        Trump is gutting all the health agencies. There will not be a strong CDC while Trump is President.

        Trump has cut funding and approval for wind and solar projects. It is likely he will oppose any nuclear development. His sole interest is to keep Americans dependent on American oil and gas to allow those industries to monopolize energy supply and prevent any transition away from them.

        1. “It is likely he will oppose any nuclear development.”

          This is from one of Trump’s *four* Executive Orders fully supporting nuclear energy:

          “[W]e must unleash the domestic nuclear industrial base and position American nuclear companies as the partners of choice for future energy growth throughout the world.”

          It’d be nice if the Left could at least try to get something right.

  10. While it may be as impossible to defy the suppression of individual freedom which is spreading like fungus in the rising oligarch/autocrat societies of the EU, it may be a diagnostic signal of an emerging feudalistic human dark age – which we’ve had before .

    In Germany, As early as 1935, a jingle went around: “Lieber Herr Gott, mach mich stumm, dass ich nicht nach Dachau komam'” (“Dear Lord God, make me dumb [silent], That I may not to Dachau come”).

  11. And the head Feminazi, Rachhell Madcow, and the rest of her incoherent and hysterical “girlfriends” with TDS in extremis and the liberals are caterwauling to start and fight World War III for Ukraine as Europe is busy “fundamentally transforming” into a communist lunatic “dictatorship of the proletariat (i.e. hired help)” claiming Trump works for and is owned by Putin.
    _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    “Ain’t no time to wonder why, we’re all gonna die.”

    – Vietnam Song, Country Joe and the Fish

    1. “You pretend it doesn’t bother you
      But you just want to explode

      Most times you can’t hear ’em talk
      Other times you can
      The same old clichés”

      Bob Segar Band – “Turn the Page”

  12. it’s time to say fend for yourselves to the EU. They don’t support the values that America was founded on and we can’t let them dictate to American companies what speech should be allowed on an American companies platform. Let’s get out of NATO since we are only protecting an EU that is no different than the old Soviet Union. We can use the money we save on NATO to reimburse American companies fined by the evil EU

    1. Re.:” Anonymous says: December 6, 2025 at 5:51 PM
      “it’s time to say fend for yourselves to the EU”

      It’s time to Bug-Out – Remove all American Military installations and War reserve stocks from Europe.
      Imagine all that money being saved and redirected to America to Fix our own problems and build the Country into an advanced Stat-of-the Art – “Reality”.
      It’s more than ‘Urban Renewal’, it’s ‘Country Renewal’. We Can Do it – without carrying the rest of the Worlds problems. That’s America First.
      China is putting China First – if you don’t believe that, go see it for yourself.

      [Curated Wiki List of] American military installations and War reserve stocks from Europe
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_military_installations

      ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

      United States Army – Foreign Army Bases

      Belgium army bases
      Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe

      Bosnia and Herzegovina army bases
      NATO Headquarters Sarajevo

      Bulgaria army bases
      Main article: Bulgarian–American Joint Military Facilities
      Aitos Logistics Center, Burgas Province
      Bezmer Air Base, Yambol Province
      Graf Ignatievo Air Base, Plovdiv Province
      Novo Selo Range, Sliven Province

      Germany army bases
      Main article: List of United States Army installations in Germany
      Bleidorn Housing Area,[citation needed] Ansbach
      Dagger Complex, Darmstadt Training Center Griesheim
      Edelweiss Lodge and Resort, Garmisch-Partenkirchen
      Lucius D. Clay Kaserne (formerly Wiesbaden Army Airfield), Wiesbaden-Erbenheim
      Germersheim Army Depot,[citation needed] Germersheim
      Grafenwöhr Training Area, Grafenwöhr/Vilseck
      Hohenfels Training Area/Joint Multinational Readiness Center, Hohenfels (Upper Palatinate)
      Husterhoeh Kaserne, Pirmasens
      Kaiserslautern Military Community
      Katterbach Kaserne, Ansbach
      Kelley Barracks, Stuttgart
      Kleber Kaserne,[citation needed] Kaiserslautern Military Community
      Lampertheim Training Area,[citation needed] Lampertheim
      Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, Landstuhl
      McCully Barracks,[citation needed] Wackernheim
      Miesau Army Depot,[citation needed] Miesau
      Oberdachstetten Storage Area,[citation needed] Ansbach
      Panzer Kaserne, Böblingen
      Patch Barracks, Stuttgart
      Pulaski Barracks,[citation needed] Kaiserslautern
      Rhine Ordnance Barracks,[citation needed] Kaiserslautern
      Robinson Barracks, Stuttgart
      Rose Barracks,[citation needed] Vilseck
      Sembach Kaserne, Kaiserslautern
      Sheridan Barracks,[citation needed] Garmisch-Partenkirchen
      Shipton Kaserne, Ansbach Smith Barracks,
      Baumholder Storck Barracks,
      Illesheim Stuttgart Army Airfield,
      Filderstadt Mainz-Kastel,
      USAG Wiesbaden Military Training Area, Mainz, Gonsenheim/Mombach,
      USAG Wiesbaden Training Area,[citation needed] Mainz Finthen Airport,
      USAG Wiesbaden Radar Station,[citation needed] Mainz Finthen Airport,
      Urlas Housing and Shopping Complex,[citation needed] Ansbach,

      Kosovo army bases
      Camp Bondsteel
      Film City, Pristina

      Lithuania army bases
      Camp Herkus, Pabradė

      Poland army bases
      Camp Kosciuszko (formerly FOS Poznan)
      33rd Air Base, Powidz

      Romania army bases
      Mihail Kogălniceanu Air Base

      ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

      United States Marine Corps – Foreign Marine bases

      Germany Marine bases
      Camp Panzer Kaserne, Böblingen

      Greece naval bases
      Naval Support Activity Souda Bay

      Iceland naval bases
      Naval Air Station Keflavík

      Italy naval bases
      Naval Support Activity Naples
      Naval Air Station Sigonella

      Poland naval bases
      Naval Support Facility Redzikowo

      Romania naval bases
      Naval Support Facility Deveselu

      ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

      United States Air Force – Foreign Air Force Bases

      Estonia air force bases
      Ämari Air Base

      Germany air force bases
      Ansbach
      NATO Air Base Geilenkirchen, Geilenkirchen
      Ramstein Air Base
      Spangdahlem Air Base
      Buchel Air base

      Italy air force bases
      Aviano Air Base
      Camp Darby (Pisa-Livorno)
      Sigonella Naval Air Station

      Lithuania air force bases
      Šiauliai Air Base, Šiauliai

      Netherlands air force bases
      Volkel Air Base

      Poland air force bases
      Łask Air Base

      Portugal air force bases
      Lajes Air Base

      Romania air force bases
      Câmpia Turzii Air Base

      Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia (United Kingdom) air force bases
      RAF Akrotiri

      Spain air force bases
      Morón Air Base

      United Kingdom air force bases
      RAF Alconbury, Huntingdonshire
      RAF Croughton, Northamptonshire
      RAF Fairford, Gloucestershire
      RAF Lakenheath, Brandon, Suffolk
      RAF Mildenhall, Mildenhall, Suffolk
      RAF Molesworth, Cambridgeshire

      ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

      United States Space Force – Domestic space force bases

      Ascension Island (United Kingdom) space force bases
      Ascension Island Auxiliary Airfield

      Greenland (Denmark) space force bases
      Pituffik Space Base

      ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

      United States Coast Guard – Foreign coast guard bases

      Germany coast guard bases

      See: USCG International Force Laydown USEUCOM
      [LINK] uscg.mil/About/Force-Laydown/

      Netherlands coast guard bases
      USCG Activities Europe
      [LINK] wikipedia.org/wiki/USCG_Activities_Europe

      ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

      United States military deployments (Europe)

      [LINK] eucom.mil/
      [LINK] wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments#Europe_(European_Command)

      ★ ★ ★ ★ ★
      END

      1. Moronic. Good luck with your B-52 fleet without Fairford. Good luck with NORAD and STRATCOM without Fylingdales (not even on your little Wiki list). Good luck for your spooks without Croughton or Menwith Hill. Good luck with the Donald’s Gaza plans without Akrotiri. Good luck with Sixth Fleet without Souda Bay or Naples.

        1. The U.S. won’t need luck, because We will simple not be there anymore. If China or Russia, or Whomever want to move in and fill the vacuum left by US – “More power to them”. Let them take care of you little Sh_ts. If we need something (Like Minerals or Goat Cheese) well buy it. It will be a lot cheaper in the long run for the U.S. to operate as a Country in the long run, than having to out up with every little BS problem you foreigners have.

          The World is your Problem, Not Ours. We have our Own and we intend to take care those of ourselves.

          You’re on your own – Don’t share your pain (with the U.S.).

        2. Moronic. Good luck with your B-52 fleet without Fairford.

          As you’ve brought up brain damaged demented morons: If we do decide to leave you British wankers and your favored 85+ Muslim child rape gangs to fend for yourself with the rest of the EU, there’s no point to having access to Fairford anyways. B52s nor any other US military assets won’t be needing it to either fight beside you or even supply your nearly nonexistent military fighting with what pathetic little you still have.

          Weird how a self-identifying military expert wouldn’t notice that if the US were to leave NATO, while delivering such a detailed analysis.

          Good luck using Fairford to replace all the military and intelligence logistics material that the US supplies you with that you can’t build for yourselves. And you won’t miss all that NATO spending and spinoff employment there in the U.K, will you! Job openings unfulfilled all over the UK!

          Note to PM Starmer’s British Walter Mitty commie: you have a crumbling ghost of a military, an increasingly communist failing country that has money to protect hajji rape gangs and attempt to jail supposedly free English citizens for silently saying prayers in their heads – but you claim it is the American military in trouble.

          You’re willingly committing national suicide, and you’re enraged the United States won’t join you and your chosen commie Starmer in doing that. If culls like you were told that the next Winston Churchill or Margaret Thatcher had just been born, you’d be running around like King Herod, trying to find them so you could strangle them in their crib.

          Closing note: no, I don’t agree with anyone wanting to get out of NATO. But if we decide to use NATO as a big stick to defend Americans and American businesses from police state fascism like this coming out of the UK and EU, I would hope we do that instead.

        3. Good luck for your spooks without Croughton or Menwith Hill.

          Imagine how America would suffer without the UK’s MI6 to help Democrat felons attempt to remove our elected president by promoting that avatar representing the best of British intelligence, Christopher Steele and his “Trump-Russia Dossier”. A British spy working hand in glove with a Russian spy to attempt to take out a president elected by Americans.

          Or are you going to claim that Brit intelligence was so feeble they weren’t aware it was going on with their Christopher Steele and the heads of MI6? Completely powerless to shut their own thugs in MI6 or at least issue a warning to their ally in the USA that they had commie rogues attempting to take out our president.

          Oh, the pain of the USA no longer being blessed with that kind of MI6 and UK spooks like Christopher Steele for our allies. We can make do having to put up with our own criminal felon spooks like John Brennan without you provides criminals like him with your help.

          You were rapid fire kissing Obama’s ass from over there in England while he paid for and engineered the British-Ruskie criminal dossier, long before you were on your knees developing callouses while kissing Starmer’s ass as you posted that.

    2. America was founded on slavery. It was given a gilt cover, but underneath was the exploitation in forced labor camps with starvation, beating, and killing to keep the oppressed in line. The Tea Party was from tea smugglers unhappy that the Crown had rescinded tea taxes and dropped the price of legally imported tea to below what the smugglers could manage to be profitable. The electoral college was only available to land owners who weren’t women.

      1. That was then, this is now. We the currently living had no say in those attitudes and policies — or are you suggesting we did?

        We’re only responsible for policies being decided now, and will be held up by posterity as to whether ours were wisely chosen.

        We’re building the first post-racial meritocracy in history. We’re making good headway, but the media and Dems are constantly trying to thwart that goal with their bs narratives. Citing long-ago history as an “ongoing grievance” is intellectually dishonest and repugnant.

        1. That was then, this is now.

          Why are you attempting to give your fellow racist Democrat liars oxygen? That disgusting Critical Black Racist Theory project polluting America.

          Pbinca, you “founded on racism” commie racist Democrats don’t deserve the citizenship you’re blessed with by accident of birth.

        2. “Then” is when the US was founded. If one wants to refer to the founding of America, that’s what it was.

          The US is far from “post racial” and the US has rarely been a meritocracy; in the main it has been a good old boys network, with a heap of nepotism. Trump is where he is because his daddy set up a business and gave it to Trump backed by the buddies his dad gathered.

          This turn to “meritocracy” is in reaction to saying, in effect, that – after the US spent 400 years of openly hostile behavior to African Americans, enslaving them, setting them on fire, hanging them, burning their churches, prohibiting them from owning property, setting fire to their property, red-lining to prevent investment in their neighborhoods, cutting funding for their schools (Virginia shut down all public schools rather than pay for Black students to be educated), depriving them of access to the GI Bill benefits – Black Americans should continue to be discriminated against in the interest of being fair to the White people who benefited from the aforementioned assaults.

          Republicans are determined to make sure the benefits they gained by this abuse are kept for themselves, the stolen lives, wealth, property, and social status.

          1. “Then” is when the US was founded. If one wants to refer to the founding of America, that’s what it was.

            You Democrats and your vile 1619 Project attempting to not only rewrite history, but rewrite it with black racist Democrat lies are never going to admit that the backbone of both white and black racism in this country is you Democrats.

            Yes… the meritocracy of you electing Obama, who claimed that “systemic white racism” exists – right after he renounced his life of Marxist Rich White Privilege to run as a po’ l’il chil’ from the projects. And the majority of white Americans were so racist they elected the brown half of his racist Marxist mulatto ass.

            And you were all in for the “meritocracy” of voting for Biden every time he was on the presidential ticket. The Democrat meritocracy of voting for a man who entered politics as a Kluxxer, saying he didn’t want your jungle bunny kids going to the same schools as his pure blood white kids.

            Same level of meritocracy that had you lining up to kiss Biden’s ass and vote for him after he said that in his 40 years as a politician in Washington DC, he never met a clean, well spoken black American – until he met that mulatto who was just as racist as he was.

            And together they continued the goal of keeping black Americans on their poverty plantations so they could harvest their votes.

            You racist Democrats need to come up with better game. At least you could be more entertaining.

      2. America was founded on slavery.

        We have a fan of The 1619 Project, and it’s authors the racist black propagandist and revisionist historian Nikole Hannah-Jones and her bedfellows at the New York Times -, who you earlier celebrated when they were informing us the Russia Dossier proved Trump stole the 2016 election.

        Don’t just lie and run… partner up with your supporter pbinca: stay and tell us more about about your racist black liar Nikole Hannah-Jones and her 1619 Project which began the “America was founded on slavery” Democrat strategy.

        The 1619 Project Unrepentantly Pushes Junk History
        https://reason.com/2022/03/29/the-1619-project-unrepentantly-pushes-junk-history/

        What History Professors Really Think About ‘The 1619 Project’
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/marybethgasman/2021/06/03/what-history-professors-really-think-about-the-1619-project/

        And pbinca leaped at a chance to insinuate her fellow racist Democrat Nikole Hannah-Jones were correct in claiming that was true. All while bemoaning lies and disinformation on media platforms.

        Oh dear pbinca… your dirty panties are exposed to the world yet again.

        You should probably run away and hide from your response to this post, just like the author of this post will run and hide beside you.

        1. Which human beings got counted as only 3/5ths human? Those opposed to slavery felt the slaves should not have their votes stolen, the slavers felt they owned 100% of their slaves’ representation. The compromise was to only steal 3/5ths of that representation for the slavers.

          I don’t need the 1619 project – the ugly origin of the USA is enshrined in the US Constitution.

          1. Which human beings got counted as only 3/5ths human?

            Do you brag to everybody else in the Democrat Borg that you skipped every single civics class in public school?

            Wrong question, commie. Try it this way: which states demanded that their slaves not be considered as human beings – except each one be given credit as 3/5ths of a person so they could get more seats based on population in Congress.

            The compromise to get the slave states to sign the Constitution was allowing them to treat their slaves on the one hand as farm animals, while on the other hand they demanded that they get seats in the House based on a fraction of the total numbers of slaves they owned.

            Imagine everyone’s shock when those slave states who demanded that or they would not ratify the Constitution quickly became Democrat Kluxxer run states – and started a war of insurrection when that still wasn’t good enough.

    3. Let’s get out of NATO since we are only protecting an EU that is no different than the old Soviet Union.

      A blind pig would see our primary purpose for NATO, after finally joining the war and seeing the devastation of all of Europe, was to always have a guarantee in our military pocket that all future major wars would be once again fought through American streets among European citizens – rather than we doing that here at home in America. Pragmatic, sensible realism… not noble brotherhood.

      And as a mercantile nation, we need healthy European countries to buy our products, not customer nations consumed by war.

    1. Randy,

      We have all noticed the troll increase.

      It is hard to believe the trolls can be that stupid without being paid for it. But it makes them easier to spot. I generally ignore them.

  13. Really: I am waiting all of the time, as I am willing to have an open mind, that the modern left and the globalists are not simply batsh*t insane and basically a reincarnation of the powers that very nearly took over Europe decades ago, and the logical inheritors of the powers that DID keep people thoroughly oppressed at one time in history there. Still waiting. these people are not well, and capitulating to their madness equals doom. Make it make sense, because all I see here is privilege and tyranny under that same presumption.

    I suspect they have no idea who they are dealing with in Elon, and I hope he smacks them upside the head, but good. It is ludicrous that something so very, very simple as free speech and an open platform that aused to be a stupid app for sharing pictures of your dinner has come to this (and of course there are larger elements at work), but we are not dealing with sane people anymore. Disavow yourselves of that notion right now.

    1. And yes, sorry for the typos. Not because I went to Harvard, but because I have posted in haste. Harvard grads wouldn’t have posted at all, just broken something and run home to mom and dad.

    2. I am waiting all of the time, as I am willing to have an open mind, that the modern left and the globalists are not simply batsh*t insane . . .

      James – you will never get evidence that they are sane, because it doesn’t exist. They want men in girl’s bathrooms. They want tampons in boy’s rooms. They want biological males beating the crap out of women in competitive sports and invading their locker rooms and showers. They want an open border where millions of unvetted dangerous people can come in to rape and physically assault American citizens. They want to defund the police. They want DEI. The evidence is overwhelming that they are indeed insane and there is no evidence to contradict it. In spite of all that’s wrong with all of their positions as listed above, they have not taken one single step back from them . . . and they will never do so.

      1. It is not you that is confused, but James. He clearly does not understand the difference. He talks about sanity, yet praises an autistic, arrogant fool who thinks it clever to wave chainsaws in public.

          1. My God, man, this place is nothing but Anons!

            The nom de plume you responded to believes Rush Limbaugh was a liberal communist and is far to the right of him.

            A DEM, dang!

  14. More German Fascism:

    “Posting hateful speech online could lead to police raiding your home in this European country”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/policing-speech-online-germany-60-minutes-transcript

    Of course ‘hateful speech’ is anything the Fascist bureaucrats don’t like.

    German woman given harsher sentence than her foreign rapist for calling him a pig.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/28/german-woman-given-harsher-sentence-than-rapist-for-calling

    Fascism on full display. Germany might as well give their police snappy Hugo Boss SS uniforms.

  15. Trump doesn’t want to dismantle organized crime.
    He wants to dismantle his competition.
    From human trafficking to drugs, Trump and his sponsors have their fingers in all the pies.

      1. You don’t pardon major drug traffickers & dealers just for sh!ts & giggles.
        I can only imagine the illegal $ being washed and funneled into his companies.
        And the bags of $ that they’re leaving under the table.

        1. He owned a casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey.
          What makes you think he isn’t actually working for organized crime as we speak?

          1. It’s no coincidence that Trump’s personal attorney in the 70’s and 80’s was Roy Cohn, who was an attorney well known for representing Mafia bosses, including John Gotti.

              1. Representation of Donald Trump
                Main article: Personal and business legal affairs of Donald Trump
                In 1971, Donald Trump first undertook large construction projects in Manhattan. In 1973, the Justice Department accused Trump of violating the Fair Housing Act in 39 of his properties. The government alleged that Trump’s corporation quoted different rental terms and conditions and made false “no vacancy” statements to Black applicants for apartments it managed in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. Representing Trump, Cohn filed a countersuit against the government for $100 million, asserting that the charges were “irresponsible and baseless”. The countersuit was unsuccessful.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn#Representation_of_Donald_Trump

                Perhaps you think that a mentor to Trump and representing Trump in a lawsuit isn’t a “personal lawyer” but the linkage to Cohn is clear.

                “Legal career in New York
                After resigning from McCarthy’s staff, Cohn had a 30-year career as an attorney in New York City. His clients included Donald Trump; New York Yankees baseball club owner George Steinbrenner; Aristotle Onassis; Mafia figures Tony Salerno, Carmine Galante, John Gotti and Mario Gigante; Studio 54 owners Steve Rubell and Ian Schrager; the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York; Texas financier and philanthropist Shearn Moody Jr.; and business owner Richard Dupont.”
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn#Indictments

            1. t’s no coincidence that Trump’s personal attorney in the 70’s and 80’s was Roy Cohn

              Things.That.Never.Happened. You’re on a roll of a lying conversation back and forth with yourself. Consider how pathetic a person you must be that you need to have a conversation with yourself in order to have somebody engage in a conversation with you!

              But if you like coincidences, it’s no coincidence that all the major unindicted felons in the Obama and Biden DoJ and FBI with their “Crossfire Hurricane” and “Arctic Frost” were all members of the Washington DC Bar Association.

          2. And there were probably British and Russian spies like Christopher Steele and Igor Danchenko, gambling there.

            Why shouldn’t we think his Atlantic City casino wasn’t like James Bond’s Casino Royale – a criminal enterprise where foreign spies first met and began their foreign influence peddling operations to take down our elected president?

        2. “You don’t pardon major drug traffickers & dealers just for sh!ts & giggles.”
          There are many reasons for pardon’s

          One possibility is that the pardon is for cooperation with DOJ/FBI to halp take down bigger fish like Maduro.

          “I can only imagine the illegal $ being washed and funneled into his companies.
          And the bags of $ that they’re leaving under the table.”
          You have been imagining all kinds of things for decades that are not real – why would this be different.

          It is democrat politicians that have colluded with Russia – not Trump.
          The hunter Biden laptop is not russian disinformation.
          J6 ws not an insurrection.
          Covid did not come from Wet markets in China.
          Masks did not work.
          Shutdowns did not work.
          Tyler Robinson was not a right wing nut.
          Robert Cole Jr. is not white.

          And on and on and on.

          You complain about right wing delusions and conspiracy theories – yet Alex Jones is rational in comparison to you.

          1. “One possibility is that the pardon is for cooperation with DOJ/FBI to halp take down bigger fish like Maduro.”

            Trump is using the US Navy to blow boats out of the water. There’s no need for “halp” when assassination is on the table. If it was for “halp” Trump would have announced it – Maduro will already know that the guy who is pardoned could have turned on him; there’s no secret to be protected.

            Republicans spent July 4th in Moscow chumming up to Putin’s closest supporters. Trump has accepted Russian money to support his business. Russians were placing calls to his campaign headquarters. Russians released the e-mails tied to, but not obtained from, Hillary Clinton’s private e-mail server – the same setup that George Bush the Lesser used to hide his activities. Moscow Mitch McConnell pushed through a Russian aluminum processing plant for his state after sandbagging American companies trying to do the same.

            Here’s a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia#Timeline_of_Trump_business_activities_related_to_Russia

            November 2015

            “Trump associate Felix Sater emails Trump lawyer Michael Cohen: “Michael, I arranged for Ivanka to sit in Putin’s private chair at his desk and office in the Kremlin […] Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it. I will get all of Putin’s team to buy in on this””

        3. You don’t pardon major drug traffickers & dealers just for sh!ts & giggles.

          You’re a pathetic rookie when it comes to pushing Democrats’ desperate hypocritical projection scam.

          But you do pardon your son for shits & giggles.
          You pardon your brother with federal contracts scattered all over the place just for shits & giggles.
          You do pardon every member of your family and their two dozen LLCs who have Chicom and Russian money falling out of their pockets just for shits & giggles.
          You pardon terrorists involved in dozens of bombings that killed Americans for shits & giggles.
          You pardon death row inmates that raped and then butchered children – all for shits & giggles.
          You pardon HUNDREDS of dealers… yep, more of that shits & giggles stuff.

          So inept that you attempt it here, rather than some other place populated with no other readers than your fellow Democrat commies.

    1. Trump doesn’t want to dismantle organized crime. He wants to dismantle his competition.”

      Oho!!! There’s a non sequitur like we’ve never seen here before!!! It’s like a post from the organized crime that was his competition – the Obama/Biden FBI. That cartel of Democrat presidents and their Democrat felons that first ran their Russia Dossier “Crossfire Hurricane insurrection attempt, followed by “Arctic Frost”.

      And good on Trump for doing it. Truly disgraceful that not a single one of those unindicted felons will ever answer for their serial felonies in a court of either criminal or civil law.

      But Trump supporting or turning a blind eye to human trafficking and drugs? Is your AutoPen posting this, Oval Office House Plant?

      You’re a rookie at trying this projection business, aren’t you little commie Biden Bolshevik Boy?

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