“We are the Free World Now” — Europe Declares War on Free Speech

Below is my column in The Hill on the move by the Trump Administration against five leading figures in the European censorship movement, including Thierry Breton, the former European Union commissioner responsible for digital policy. The United States is finally responding to what is an existential threat to American values. It is worth noting, as I discuss in my new book, Rage and the Republic, that the EU is not only exporting its censorship rules but threatening American companies that do not meet its environment, social and governance (ESG) policies. It is time for Congress to follow suit and get into this fight.

Here is the column:

“We are the free world now.” Those words from Raphael Glucksmann, a French socialist member of the European Parliament, captured the pearl-clutching outrage of Europeans after the Trump administration did what no prior administration has ever done — stand up to Europe to defend the freedom of speech.

This week, Secretary of State Marco Rubio barred five figures closely associated with European censorship efforts from traveling to the U.S. This includes Thierry Breton, the former European Union commissioner responsible for digital policy.

In a post on X, Rubio declared that the U.S. “will no longer tolerate these egregious acts of extraterritorial censorship” and will target “leading figures of the global censorship-industrial complex from entering the United States.”

Breton achieved infamy as one of the architects of the massive EU censorship system, which is now being globalized. Armed with the notorious Digital Services Act, Breton and others threatened American companies and officials that they would have to yield to European standards of free speech. After Breton learned that Musk was planning to interview Trump before the last presidential election, he even warned the X owner that he would be “monitored” and potentially subject to EU fines.

Socialist Glucksmann is now irate at “this scandalous sanction against Thierry Breton.”

“We are Europeans,” he declared. “We must defend our laws, our principles, our interests.” In other words, this is a war over whether Europe or the U.S. Constitution will dictate the scope of free speech for American companies and citizens.

Breton and his colleagues are finally being treated as what they are: a clear and present danger to the “indispensable right” that defines all Americans.

The EU has been enlisted by anti-free speech figures in the U.S. to force companies like X and Facebook to restore censorship of Americans. After Musk bought Twitter with a pledge to restore free-speech protections, Hillary Clinton called upon European officials to force him to censor under Europe’s Digital Services Act.

Nina Jankowicz, the former head of Biden’s infamous Disinformation Governance Board, appeared before the European Parliament. She called upon the 27 EU countries to fight against the U.S., which she described as a global threat.

The E.U. enthusiastically took up the challenge. This year, I spoke in Berlin at the World Forum, which boosted the slogan, “A New World Order with European Values.” Bill and Hillary Clinton and other Americans cheered on the European efforts.

The Digital Services Act bars speech that is viewed as “disinformation” or “incitement.” When it was passed over the condemnations of many of us in the free speech community, European Commission Executive Vice President Margrethe Vestager celebrated by declaring that it is “not a slogan anymore — that what is illegal offline should also be seen and dealt with as illegal online. Now it is a real thing. Democracy’s back.”

It is indeed a “real thing.” In my forthcoming book, Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution, I discuss the challenges facing our republic in the 21st century, including the EU and its transnational governance model. Many on the left are supporting the erosion of national laws and values in favor of standards set by global experts and elites.

This cadre of American enablers has been increasingly vocal in Europe. Notably, late-night ABC host Jimmy Kimmel delivered a Christmas Eve address in Great Britain denouncing the U.S. as a global threat. He declared that “from a fascism perspective, this has been a really great year. Tyranny is booming over here.”

It was crushingly ironic. Many of us have been writing for years about how free speech has been eviscerated in the United Kingdom, where people are being prosecuted for “toxic ideologies” and an ever-lengthening list of unacceptable political viewpoints.

Justice Amy Coney Barrett issued a warning this week about the collapse of free speech in the United Kingdom. Yet that is where a comedian, who is paid millions and attacks Trump and conservatives nightly, went to complain about the threat to free speech in the U.S.

Both Vice President JD Vance and Secretary Rubio have delivered major speeches warning the EU about its effort to export censorship systems, particularly targeting American citizens and companies. After years of encouragement and enabling from the Obama and Biden administrations, the U.S. government is finally in this fight.

That is why Europe is up in arms, denouncing the move to bar these officials as an attack on its own sovereignty.  In other words, an effort to defend our own free speech values is a threat to the proclaimed “New World Order with European Values.”

In reality, I do not like travel bans. I prefer that these figures come to this country and face free-speech advocates. Yet despite our calls for Congress to get into this fight, it has done nothing due to opposition from Democratic members. We cannot wait as the EU weaponizes and globalizes censorship.

Glucksmann is right about one thing. This is a fight over who today can be rightfully called the “free world.” In the U.S., we continue to cling to the quaint notion that the free world should be based on … well, freedom.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of the forthcoming “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution” on the 250th anniversary of the American Revolution.

330 thoughts on ““We are the Free World Now” — Europe Declares War on Free Speech”

  1. Why is it that churches and other spiritual organizations are now hobbled from advertising on Google of Facebook in the United States because the Digital Services Act in the EU made spirituality a “sensivitve catagory” and our social media companies bowed in compliance, restricting the speech o churches and spiritual organizations WORLD-WIDE. How long must we Americans suffer such attacks not only on our freedom of speech but also freedom of religion!?!?!?!?

  2. The EU is nothing more than a grouping of sophisticated savages. Don’t think into it as it simply never has been more than that.

  3. I wonder how fast the left is going to shut this girl up
    The Pals are terrorist!
    _________________
    A former Israeli hostage has broken her silence on the rape hell she suffered in captivity, including fears she was pregnant after being assaulted while unconscious and that she’d die a ‘sex slave’.

    Romi Gonen, 25, was released during the second ceasefire in January, 471 days after she was kidnapped from the Nova music festival and taken as a hostage by Hamas terrorists.

    In an explosive interview on Thursday, Gonen revealed for the first time since her release the sexual abuse she suffered, including how one attacker was ‘ecstatic’ as she wept through a 30-minute sexual assault.

    1. So who is trying to suppress free speech.
      _____________________
      Writers Against the War on Gaza released a video on Dec. 28 calling for The New York Times to retract an article titled “Screams Without Words” two years after it was published. The group listed their “coalition of organizations,” which included the Democratic Socialists of America and Jewish Voice for Peace.

      “Screams Without Words: How Hamas Weaponized Sexual Violence on Oct. 7” was published on Dec. 28, 2023. It documented evidence that Hamas used sexual violence during its terrorist attacks in Israel on Oct. 7, 2023. It was based on survivor testimony, first responders, medical professionals and visual records.

      The recently posted video called the article a “racist, genocidal lie” that accused “Arab men of violent lust for European colonizers.” The group claimed that “no forensic evidence was presented because it was never collected.”

      1. Oct. 7 was an horrendous savage act. However, in retaliation, Israel has lost the high ground it always had. At best it has become guilty of domicide, and of course there is worse accusations.

        1. What is a nation supposed to do when attacked? Die? You have an odd way of looking at self-preservation.

          If you wish to make such an accusation against Israel, make it against the US and Great Britain, for the toll on civilians was a lot worse; many times worse since Israel placed its own soldiers in danger protecting civilians.

          John Spencer, chair of urban warfare studies at West Point’s Modern War Institute, personally observed and wrote that, in order to prevent harm to Gazan civilians, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) “has telegraphed almost every move ahead of time so civilians can relocate, nearly always ceding the element of surprise.” Of course, Israel’s advance warnings to protect civilians also enable Hamas to reposition its senior leaders and Israeli hostages through its tunnels, and plan attacks that endanger Israel’s soldiers.

          By Morton A. Klein

          (June 5, 2024 / Israel Hayom) Sun Tzu, in The Art of War, wrote that surprise tactics are a major key to victory. The famed Chinese…

          Full article at: https://zoa.org/2024/06/10450792-israels-extraordinary-efforts-to-avoid-civilian-casualties-endanger-its-own-soldiers/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

        2. MV

          The casualty rate in Gaza was small compared to the US invasions of Iraq and Afhanistan.

          Wars produce casualties often civilians.

          Hamas and GAZA wish to be treated as a nation – nations that commit acts of war end up at war, and their civilians end up dying as a result.

          Calling the unfortunate death fo non-combatants in heavily populated areas that HAMAS is hiding in and ogften hiding behond Genocride is LYING. But repeat a lie often enough and some people beleive it.

          Israel did not successfully destroy Hamas in this war. As a result the prospects of real and certain long term peace are dramatically reduced.

          As has been said many times

          If the palestininians lais down their arms – there would be peace.
          If the Israelis laid down their arms there would be genocide.

          If you wish to make specific accurate critisims of the way the War against Hamas was conducted – please do.

          I would note that the Russians have killed an order of magnitude more Ukrainians that Israel has killed Palestinians.
          In fact despite propoganda the War against Hamas has had very low civilian casualities in comparison to pretty much all other conflicts.

          The numbers killed in civil war in Syrian are higher. More people are being killed in conflicts in North Africa.

          Measure Israel against the standards of any other nation or conflict and their enemy civilian casulty rate is incredibly low.
          That would include compared to the US.

        3. Israel has endured through almost constant states of war with its neighbors. One problem is that it never finishes a war–it always leaves its enemies intact, to attack Israel again. This, I assume, is due to humanitarian pressures form within, and diplomatic pressures from without. But, most of the opposition comes from those who do not bear the consequences of the unfinished wars. Islamic terror organizations are undeterred by the possibility of death in combat; indeed for many it is a pathway to paradise. If I Israel is so brutal to the “innocent” Gazans, then why do no Arab Muslim nations welcome them as refugees. The answer is because history shows that they are subversive, rebellious, and violent. The Arab nations are wise to reject the so-called ‘Palestinians’ as refugees. And, Israel will never be safe as long as these terrorists and their supporters exist on its fringes.

  4. Misery Loves Company

    Turley sponsors the idea that Europe must let far-right factions flood the media landscape with disinformation.

    It’s an attitude like: “If we Americans are hostage to a far-right disinformation, then Europe should allow the same level of craziness just to even the playing field”.

    1. Professor Turley seems bothered by the idea that the Europeans are more aware about the dangers of misinformation, disinformation and the damage it can do without proper moderation. While it’s easier to fool the rubes, backbenchers and the gullible, it’s much harder to do so when the majority of the population is better educated and more aware of the distinctions the professor purposefully leaves out.

      In the EU speech is also considered conduct. Turley seems only justifies limiting speech when conduct is involved. Look how he justifies student protesting Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. He shifts his focus on conduct instead of speech to justify harsher treatment and punishment. But when it’s about EU’s interpretation of speech as also being conduct he objects and expects them to adhere to his view of free speech. It’s the hypocrisy that ruins the credibility of his argument except to the rubes, backbenchers and MAGA illiterates who are easy to fool.

      1. This is same crap you posted yesterday. Desperate for attention huh.
        And Turley sold more books than you and he’s a lot smarter and has the attentions of millions. You? You just hang around here repeating the same inane remarks with every Turley post.

        1. You’re not rebutting my point because you can’t or don’t know how. Your only recourse is to hurl some useless point about Turley writing books. How about defending or rebutting your position with your own words?

          1. What is your point? ICE is going after the most dangerous, but hopefully, every illegal immigrant will be a target. Illegal means you don’t belong. Plenty of illegals have left and can be readmitted legally to the US. That is fine with me. On the other hand you prefer violent illegal immigrants and never look at the innocents who were murdered or otherwise hurt.

          2. “You’re not rebutting my point because you can’t or don’t know how. Your only recourse is to hurl some useless point about Turley writing books. How about defending or rebutting your position with your own words?”

            What Point ?

            As always

            YOU DO NO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

            You make vague claims that are obviously wrong, you misuse words and you are ignorant of reality.

            Some speach is conduct.
            That does not mean that we can arbitrarily relabel speech as conduct in order to criminalize or censor it.

            Words have meaning.

            First the first amendment protect MORE than speech – it protects expressive conduct.

            Next even conduct that is not expressive is STILL within the domain of individual liberty.

            Govenrment many not legitimately restrict or worse criminalize whatever conduct it wishes.

            You would be crying like a banshee over government efforts to restrict abortions.
            An abortion is CLEARLY conduct.
            Just calling something conduct does not mean govenrment can restrict it.

            I repeat over and over that the legitimate comain of govenment is

            National defence,
            The punishment of the use of force or Fraud.
            Enforcing binding agreements,
            And compelling those whose acts directly resulted in harming others to make them whole.

            Govenrment is FORCE, and these are the ONLY domains in which FORCE can be used to restrict liberty.

            This is NOT an argument about the constitution, or the US or the EU.

            It is about the social contract – the moral foundation for legitimate govenrment.

            The US declaration of independence is a legal claim that the social contract was breached by Great Britain.

            The US Constitution and the British Magna Carte are efforts to define the scope of legitimate govenrment conforming to that social contract.

            The social contract is founded on the understanding that Humans have free will, and that there are very few legitimate violations of that free will.

            All Morality rests on the understanding that Humans have free will.

            Slavery is morally wrong because it is an unjustified violation of a persons free will.

            The use of FORCE to restrict expression is morally wrong because it is an unjustified violation of a persons free will.

            You can not legitimately argue “European governments can legitimately do whatever they want”

            It is CORRECT to say that it MAY not be in the US interests to interfere in the conduct of other governments.
            That does not alter the FACT that conduct is morally wrong.

          3. “How about defending or rebutting your position with your own words?”
            Turley, I, SM, and many others have done exactly that – over and over.

            In many instances we have gone beyond opinion to fact and certainty.

            Conversely most of the time YOU do not even make actual arguments.
            You hurl ad hominem
            You abuse language
            You miststate facts – lie
            And you make conclusions not supported by anything – much less what you have written.

      2. George
        Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians.
        __________________________
        Another BS lie. As usual from you. When the Pals stop murdering Jews.
        Their life will get better. It’s there choice, but so far they only want death.

      3. Whom gets to say what is disinformation huh ?. In Europe it seems now it’s big brother in charge and it’s only the definition preferred by big brother , which in fact big brother is pushing disinformation , propaganda and lies. But you are AOK with that ?. Only a left leaning Dem would welcome so much govt/global censorship as it tickles their Orwellian fantasies they must satiate at the expense of the people…you know for the childrens …and their POWER.

      4. X Europeans and trhe left are the SPREADERS of disinformation

        I would note that is ALWAYS the case when a nation tries to censor.

        Contra the left actual censorship of false information is rare to non-existant.

        Most people – even ordinary people are quite good in the long run at sorting facts from lies.

        As Lincoln said
        You can fool all of the people some of the time
        Some of the people all of the time.
        But you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

        Or as Joseph Goebels said
        “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

        Censorship is ALWAYS for the purpose of protecting THE STATE from the consequences of its own lies.

        Contra you left wing nuts – there is no danger in “disinformation” EXCEPT when it is spread by the state AND the state engages in censorship.

        “Professor Turley seems bothered by the idea that the Europeans are more aware about the dangers of misinformation, disinformation and the damage it can do without proper moderation. ”
        Correct – because that is a LIE – the lies that are truly Dangerous are those of THE STATE

        “Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)

        Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards. They did not fear political change. They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty. To courageous, self-reliant men, with confidence in the power of free and fearless reasoning applied through the processes of popular government, no danger flowing from speech can be deemed clear and present unless the incidence of the evil apprehended is so imminent that it may befall before there is opportunity for full discussion. If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence. Only an emergency can justify repression. Such must be the rule if authority is to be reconciled with freedom. [Footnote 4] Such, in my opinion, is the command of the Constitution. It is therefore always open to Americans to challenge a law abridging free speech and assembly by showing that there was no emergency justifying it.”

        “While it’s easier to fool the rubes, backbenchers and the gullible, it’s much harder to do so when the majority of the population is better educated and more aware of the distinctions the professor purposefully leaves out.”
        Bizzare claims.

        Back benchers are typically the leaders of the party out of power.
        In the UK that would be reform and the Tories.
        In the US that would be democrats right now.

        In the US in the past decade the “guilible” would be those who bought the collusion delusion, the hunters laptop is russian disinformation claim, or masks work, or Covid came from a wet market, or there is nothing to see in the Bidens conduct in Ukraine or Joe is competent, or on and on and on.

        These people – YOU, The left, woke progressive would be the obvious rubes and guilible. Yet NO ONE has tried to censor you.
        All the censorship we have seen – ALL the claims of false information have been By the liars and of those telling the truth.

        Further what is clear is what I said above – the DANGER comes from THE STATE engaging in censorship to protect its lies.

        As you note the majority of the population is able to sort things out.

        Further education is for the most part irrelevant. People at the time of the US founding on the whole barely had half the elementary education of people today – yet even they managed to sort the truth from lies.

        “In the EU speech is also considered conduct.”
        SOME speach is conduct – most speech is not.
        This is NOT a subjective question or one of opinion.

        Further expressive CONDUCT is protected by the first amendment.

        Further Still – MOST Conduct is NOT subject to restriction by government.

        You engage in stupid and shallow arguments like this all the time.

        Relabeling some speech as conduct does NOT change whether you can Censor it or not.
        Even ACTUAL Conduct can not be infringed upon by Govenrment – only conduct involving FORCE or FRAUD.

        “Turley seems only justifies limiting speech when conduct is involved. ”
        Rather than try to read Turley’s mind – read his book.

        Or better still read about the history of First amendment law.

        Here is an excellent book regarding one of the areas of Free speech that we DO allow some restrictions,
        and the long history of first amendment law limiting those restrictions.
        https://www.amazon.com/Girls-Lean-Back-Everywhere-Obscenity/dp/0679743413

        This would also be a good read for you as until very recently – the two and a half century effort to give meaning to the first amendment was the near exclusive domain of the american left. Liberals and libertarians.

    2. The labels below do not matter – all that matters is that those in power used that power to go after those they disagreed with.
      The Nazi’s would have called claims of racial equality disinformation.

      First they came for the Communists
      And I did not speak out
      Because I was not a Communist

      Then they came for the Socialists
      And I did not speak out
      Because I was not a Socialist

      Then they came for the trade unionists
      And I did not speak out
      Because I was not a trade unionist

      Then they came for the Jews
      And I did not speak out
      Because I was not a Jew

      Then they came for me
      And there was no one left
      To speak out for me

    3. Is it absolutely necesscary for you idiots on the left to return to idiotic arguments that the US spent 100 years dismissing and that have not been seriously offered by anyone in 100 years.

      Who decides what is disinformation ?
      Stalin, Hitler, Mao ?
      Those of you on the left have gone nuts if Trump even suggests that what some left wing nut says is wrong and should have consequences.

      Should Trump decide what is disinformation or not ?

      And how can you possibly be making this argument after – the collusion delusion, the hunter biden laptop disinformation claim,
      The lies that lockdowns work, that masks work, that the vaccine worked, that there was any public health policy anywhere in the world that was effective against covid ?

      It is the left in the US that is constantly spraying us all with “disinformation”
      And it is the left in the US that actually tried to use FORCE to prevent the spread of the truth.

      1. Who decides what disinformation is? Well, those who make the laws do. People who read do. What makes the difference is that in the EU, THEY decide that free speech is also considered conduct. We tried to deport two international students because they exercised their free speech about a subject our government didn’t like. The justification? They broke our laws and therefore must be deported. The EU made the same justification about punishing American social media companies like X and Facebook. They violated THEIR laws and consequently were punished. But conservatives and Republicans suddenly don’t like the idea of having the same standard applied to them, and to justify their outrage, they claim free speech is under attack in the EU because some American company violated THEIR rules and regulations regarding content WITHIN THEIR borders. The hypocrisy is rich, and the apparent cognitive disconnect shows how stupid Turley’s argument is.

      2. “ It is the left in the US that is constantly spraying us all with ‘disinformation”
        And it is the left in the US that actually tried to use FORCE to prevent the spread of the truth.”

        Force? What force? The government’s suggestion or pressure for social media to make changes is not unconstitutional. The Supreme Court made it the point that the left has been making all along: the social media platforms always had the ability and right to say “no,” and the majority of the time, they did. Republicans could not point to one example of the government threatening to punish social media for not removing certain content or information. In fact, Justice Kagan made it a point that the government pressures the media to change or remove certain stories or information ALL the time. The government CAN do that. What they CAN’T do is threaten punishment or prosecution for saying “no”. Trump, on the other hand, has a clear record of threatening to shut down broadcast networks for airing unfavorable stories or criticism by calling for the revocation of their broadcast licenses. THAT is what crosses the line into unconstitutional actions. The Biden administration never did that, but the Trump administration sure does it an awful lot.

    4. Whee there is real freedom – no one is hostage to anything.

      You are free to choose what you will say, and I am free to choose whether to listen to you.

      Most of us trust sources that have built a reputation for truth, and distrust those who have been caught in lies.

      Conformance to their own ideology only works for most people so long as the cognitive dissonance is not too great.
      After the long list of lies – I am surprised that anyone believes those of you on the left about anything.

      Still – the left – in the US and in the EU has peaked, and is failing. Because increasingly people know you lie and do not trust you.

    5. Turly is constantly running stories about those target bu the UK and EU for “far-right disinformation”

      Can you tell me – either from Turley’s posts or from other sources – what this actual far right disinformation is that you are allegedly protecting people from ?

      Exactly what protection is arresting people for silent prayer ?

      The left is not targeting “disinformation” – it is targeting those who speak “inconvenient truths”

      1. John Say,

        “ Can you tell me – either from Turley’s posts or from other sources – what this actual far right disinformation is that you are allegedly protecting people from ?”
        The UK has gone after X because it allowed incitful rhetoric where individuals were encouraging violence against immigrants and inflaming rioting against them. Even here, inciting and encouraging violence is NOT protected speech. Elon, a “free speech absolutist,” cried fowl over the threats to hold him accountable for the speech of X account holders who were violating EU rules and also violating X’s TOS. Turley whined and complained that it was the UK attacking free speech, and American companies were being punished for allowing it. A grossly misleading characterization of the issue to rile up the gullible MAGA idiots into thinking the EU and UK are anti-free speech.

        “ Exactly what protection is arresting people for silent prayer ?“

        That case is, as always, a misleading claim. The woman was arrested for praying in a buffer zone, it WAS illegal to do so at the time of her arrest. When she was asked what she was doing, she admitted to the officer that she was praying, and that was enough for an arrest since the law at the time prohibited such actions in the buffer zone. She wasn’t arrested for her silent praying . She was arrested for admitting to violating the law in effect at the time. That is how the law works. If she remained silent she would have more likely been removed from the buffer zone without incident.

        “ The left is not targeting ‘disinformation’ – it is targeting those who speak ‘inconvenient truths”

        But we are ok with that since WE also target those who speak inconvenient truths. Mamoud Khalil and Rumeyza Ozturk were targeted for deportation because they were talking about an inconvenient truth OUR government did not like. Turley said nothing of those two cases because it would have been taboo to criticize Trump and MAGA for doing precisely what he complains about regarding the EU and UK. Hypocrisy has been and remains his biggest problem.

        It’s convenient to ignore it when it’s so apparent, so you can continue to lay blame for everything under the sun on the “left”.

        1. Several Paragraphs of platitudes and BS from commandante X. Crikey – does this poster even read his biased drivel ?.

  5. How can the rules be exported? If you mean that they are controlling imports of American services, that’s different.

    If Alito retires, will all these lapdog articles move Turley to the front of the line?

    1. “How can the rules be exported?”
      Trivially. US businesses that operate internationally end up having to conform all or nearly all their services to the most draconian laws.

  6. OT. PT, I can’t believe you haven’t said a peep about Trump v. Illinois. Isn’t it true when the NG are federalized they are part of the regular army and regular air force? NATIONAL? Guard the nation? They can’t be used to enforce federal law within a State when there is obstruction, rebellion and civil unrest? How many ICE officers must die? A governor can request of the president to use of NG when and if needed? Show me where it says can deny by a governor the implementation of federal law?

    1. .^^^UNABLE with a professional standing army? Is that unable as a practical legal reason? HAS ILLINOIS SECEDED FROM THE USA?

      Give me a f$%cking break.

  7. Real Americans love their country.
    104-year-old World War II Army veteran SSGT Dominick Critelli performed the National Anthem on saxophone at NHL game Outstanding!

    🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  8. You MAGA morons have remarkably elastic beliefs regarding the concept of free speech.

    Not so long ago you were screaming that FOREIGNERS in this country who espoused support for Palestine should be arrested and deported for exercising their speech. You were adamant that FOREIGNERS do not have the same free speech rights as Americans while in this country.

    Now, the EU is simply saying that FOREIGNERS, meaning Americans, should be regulated as to their speech in Europe. They are simply demanding that FOREIGN social media companies should be prohibited from spreading misinformation and disinformation in their countries.

    So on the one hand you MAGA morons are demanding that FOREIGNERS in the US should be silenced, while simultaneously demanding that YOUR voices be heard in foreign countries because you have a right to free speech.

    The very definition of hypocrisy !!!!!!

      1. Anon calls Trump support MAGA morons, I am guessing Anon is watching what’s going on with Minnesota. Tim Walz just let a bunch of Obamaites steal billions of tax dollars and fund a terrorist organization in Somalia. Bill Clinton has now been exposed for the sexual deviant we already knew he is. Now I ask you, who are the morons ?

        1. Mainly the Somalians have been diverting cash the same way Republicans do – expensive cars and other purchases to help drive the local economy. Trump, on the other hand, sold out America to Taliban terrorists in Afghanistan.

          1. Please – where do we have examples of Republicans taking 9B in government funds for services that they do not provide ?

            “Trump, on the other hand, sold out America to Taliban terrorists in Afghanistan.”
            How ? Buy refusing to kill more people – Afghanis and americans to accomplish nothing ?

            Our legitimate role in Afghanistan ended when the Taliban was forcibly removed from power.
            That was more than 2 decades ago. That was little more than 90 days after the Afghan war started.

            At that point we should have left.

            It is neither our job, nor our right to engage in nation building. It is not our job or our right to decide what govenrment other nations can choose.

            We can as Trump/Rubio are doing here – impose sanctions on foreign nations for conduct that offends our values.
            But absent a real threat to US national security we can not use military force.

    1. A clearer way to describe it is the solipsist’s double-standard — rules for thee but not for me. Free speech for those who think like me, not for our opponents. A borderless internet that spreads my viewpoint without restriction, and keeping out foreign influence I don’t like. Problem is there’s no unifying principle, it’s a moral code which cannot resolve conflict, only intensify it.

      1. This sounds exactly like what the Demokratzis and lieberals in America are saying and doing. The more things change , the more they remain the same with the left and their arrogance.

    2. what the ESG rules mean within eu atleast(where i live) is that corporations large enough are by eu law required to adhere to official propaganda.

    3. The Conservatives have a morality diode. It only requires their opposition to follow values they, themselves, will not.

    4. That is a fantastic point! MAGA was indeed upset about foreigners exercising their free speech rights while residing here and arrested and attempted to deport them because they did exactly what he complains about with the EU’s treatment of foreign companies, American social media, exercising their free speech to complain about EU policies and positions. The irony and hypocrisy is mind blowing. Wow.

      1. “That is a fantastic point!”
        Only in topsy turvey world.

        “MAGA was indeed upset about foreigners exercising their free speech rights while residing here and arrested and attempted to deport them ”
        No myriads of americans were angry that both US students and foreigners would openly support terrorists.
        But people were deported for ACTS of violence. For organizing Riots, the destruction of property, for attempting to extort colleges.

        I would note that both the EU and the US can refuse Visa’s or deport foreigners for speech. There is no right to be in another country.
        Trump/Rubio ARE barring Visas to EU advocates of censorship – that is perfectly reasonable.

        What is not reasonable is expecting US companies to censor people – whether foreign or not, whether the speech is in a foreign country or not.

        It is unconstitutional for the US govenrment to require private companies to censor others.
        It is immoral for any country to leverage private companies to censor others.
        It is unconstitutional in the US for the Govenrment to take or diminish the value of property without compensation.
        That would include requiring a private company to act as public law enforcement without compensation.
        It is also morally wrong.

        It is perfectly legitimate for the US government to sanction people – and countries that infringe on the rights of Americans or their bussiness.
        It is even the US governments duty to do so.

        It is also perfectly legitimate for the US govenrment to sanction people and countries for infringing on the rights of their own people.

      2. “because they did exactly what he complains about with the EU’s treatment of foreign companies,”
        In what world is sending violent protestors home the same as confiscating the property or taking away peoples liberty “the same thing” ?

        Trump/Rubio should go further. They should rtefuse to allow US companies to do business in the EU until the EU fixes their draconian laws.

    5. “Not so long ago you were screaming that FOREIGNERS in this country who espoused support for Palestine should be arrested and deported for exercising their speech. You were adamant that FOREIGNERS do not have the same free speech rights as Americans while in this country.”
      Beat that straw man to death.

      All americans should support the deportation of those who incite violence or worse still actually engage in violence.

      Many of us are offended by left wing nuts – both citizens and non citizens defending a racist genocidal regime.
      We are offended by much of the garbage that you left wing nuts spray.

      But no one is denying your right to say it.

      “Now, the EU is simply saying that FOREIGNERS, meaning Americans, should be regulated as to their speech in Europe.”
      Nope, The EU is saying that anyone anywhere must be censored and can be punished for violating EU speech rules.

      Most of the targets are Europeans who said or did something the EU found offensive WHILE in america.

      ” They are simply demanding that FOREIGN social media companies should be prohibited from spreading misinformation and disinformation in their countries.”
      Nope they are demanding that anyone who spreads what THEY deem to be disinformation anywhere can be prosecuted for doing so when they come to Europe – even if the speech was not by a European or done in Europe.

    6. No the definition of hypocrisy would be idiots like you who claim that the EU can PUNISH – fine, and arrest people for speech they do not like,
      But the US can not send people home who engage in violence in the US.

      Europe is NOT deporting americans for undesireable speech. They are fining US companies for allowing speech they do not like – often speech outside the EU. And they are jailing EU citizens for non violent speech often in the US.

      The only hypocracy is on the left.

  9. Perhaps the most effective response if for all Americans to boycott Europe–NO TOURIST TRAVEL. After all, it is too dangerous for U.S. citizens to travel to Europe since their slightest speech might trigger arrest.

    1. Europe built the greatest civilization and culture the world has ever seen, including the likes of Shakespeare, Mozart, Bach, Michelangelo, Rembrandt, Leonardo, Newton, Pascal, Charles Dickens, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, and many, many others. Paintings, classical music, literature, art, philosophy, science – all to levels the world had never seen.

      That all took around 500 years to construct. Then, in a mere three decades from 1914-1945, Europe destroyed it all. Europe committed civilizational suicide. What we have now is just the downstream effects of such destruction. Although we broke away from the old Europe in 1776, it is nonetheless painful to see, as the Europe prior to 1914 was our foundational source of values and spiritual enlightenment. Sadly, it has gone dark.

      1. This is exaggerated grievance-spouting, based upon some European nations going too far with naive idealism.
        It’s already undergoing a correction. Denmark stopped its mindless immigration policy 15 years ago. Italy is working hard to turn that ship around.

        It’s not much different than the naive idealism of the Barack Obama Administration — which the US seems to have survived. Europe will just take a bit longer to adapt.

        1. I hope you’re right. To me, it seems more like civilizational suicide. Just look at all the major cities with no-go zones for the police, and in the UK especially the police are more militant to stamp out disapproved opinions on social media than they are to prevent the Muslim grooming and rape gangs from victimizing teenage British girls. I am not seeing any signs this terminal illness is turning around at all, either in the UK or in Germany or France or any other major European nation.

          1. Your mental mistake is taking the worst local situations in Europe and assuming it’s that bad everywhere.
            Don’t you realize the media doesn’t report normalcy? You don’t get it?….they’re all about whipping up your negative emotions.

            If you want Europe to deal with its problems, express confidence that it can and will. If you want “civilizational decline”, do the opposite.

            Your future is inextricably connected to your own expectations. Why set them low?

            I was in Europe 2 years ago (England, France, Switzerland, Italy), and it’s not the dystopia your favorite media depicts.

            1. You are likely correct that this nonsense is not universal.

              That is small comfort to the victims of this woke oppression.
              Nor does it means that the places where this repressive idiocy is not being enforced can be sure to remain that way.

              From what I have seen the nonsense from Woke Scolds in the EU are primarily making examples of a few little people, in most cases people who do not have majority support for their positions.

              In the past in the US we targeted communists, people advocating for birth control, and those engaged in sexual expression.
              Today we see the opposite – targeting conservatives, parents, pro-lifers.

              In Europe (and the US) the targets are typically little people.

              Nigel Farage, Douglas Murray, JK Rowley are in little danger of being arrested – or even censored,
              But lessor known people saying the same things – are rotting in jail.

              Murray and Rowley in particular make it clear they are speaking because absent their fame they would be jailed for what they say.
              They are speaking for those who can not speak.

              I would further note that repressive regimes do not arrest everyone – they merely noeed to do enough to supress dissent.

              And that is what this is all about.

              While there are many true beleivers on the left – those on the left in government are NOT true beleivers in anything but power.
              They only care about ideology as the means to power.

              As I noted – in Denmark and Sweden those on the LEFT holding power flipped their positions on immigration becoming even more anti-immigrant than those on the right, in order to avoid losing power.

              It does not matter at all what it is that those in power are trying to censor. Because for them it is NOT about ideology it is about power.

          2. FSA – both in the US and more globally we are seeing Woke Scolds slowly loosing their grip on power.

            That does not mean the war is over. just that freedom is slowly being restored.

        2. While I would agree with you that Europe is in the midst of a course correction.

          You noted Denmark and Italy – Sweden has done the same – and German and france are soon to follow.
          The UK will follow the moment There are new elections.

          But outside of the UK – where it is near certain that either a Reform majority of a Reform conservative coalition will dominate the country after the next elections, in the rest of Europe the reversals of idiotic policies have occurred when Right wing political parties became a sufficient threat and the in power left wing parties adopted the specific popular policies of the right – basically taking to the middle.

      2. Europe didn’t destroy it all. Racist bigots did. They are intending for that to not happen again.

        Much of that greatness was due to a very few people exercising almost dictatorial control over the majority, with a little bit of wealth transfer due to the Black Plague sweeping the continent.

        “The world” excluding China, I suppose.

        1. What are you talking about ?

          With few exceptions Europe has been controlled by the left not right since 1945

          As top China – today they are the most actually fascist country int he world.

    2. Anon at 3:54

      Are you familiar with the concept of hypocrisy ????

      ICE in this country rounded up scores of FOREIGNERS in this country who dared to make known their support for Palestine.
      ICE refused entry to this country for people who had posts critical of Trump on their social media accounts.

      So much for the right to free speech !!!!

      1. You’re not serious, right? Perhaps you don’t know, but ICE arrests people who are in this country illegally, many of whom are hardened criminals on top of having committed a crime to come in or stay in the US. That has literally zero to do with the topic of this article or the other anonymous’s comment. Does anybody not know these basic facts? It appears you don’t.

        1. Many of those arrested were brought here as children, got an education, got jobs, and contribute to the economy. Almost none are hardened criminals – that would lead Fox News if they were.

          1. LOL… so (if) if they bring their kids and maybe they work hard. It’s OK if they are still illegal.
            Talk about reaching.

          2. “Many of those arrested were brought here as children, got an education, got jobs, and contribute to the economy.”
            False, While there are some illegal immigrants for whom that is true it is not a very large percentage.

            ” Almost none are hardened criminals”
            False – the data is available on the DHS web site.
            Total numbers deported, numbers with Criminal convictions and numbers with criminal charges but not convictions.
            Approximately 35% were convicted of a crime – either in the US or another country. A slightly larger number had pending criminal charges in the US. Of the remainer a significant portion are suspected to have engaged in criminal activity – as an example when ICE raids a Drug Gang and deports all the gang members – some have convictions, some have outstanding charges, and some have just not been caught yet.

          3. Fox regularly puts up photos of criminals that are being deported.
            But they do not put up photos of the several hundred thousand, criminals, people with charges, and suspected criminals.

            It is likely that the majority of those who have left are NOT criminals – but that is because for every person ICE has deported 1.5 people have Self Deported.

      2. Free speech… Yeah right. When you attack Jews in the colleges.
        Another lib lie.
        The problem for you fools. It was seen on TV.

      3. What a ludicrous claim. ICE did not round up scores of foreigners for simply espousing their views on Gaza. They rounded up foreigners here on student visas that were actively harassing, physically assaulting, intimidating Jewish students at Universities. They rounded up people that wew actively disrupting the education other people paid for while being guest in our country. You don’t go to someone else’s house and Chit on their floor without getting asked to leave.

    3. It’s not unrest that would be triggered , but the censorship nazi’s in europa !. They cant fathom free speech unless it’s through their woke contrived filter.

    1. Nonsense! There are people going to JAIL when posting that the deaths from the COVID shot are real and that masks don’t work!

      1. They go to jail in England for silent prayers about abortion, but only if they’re against it, not if they pray for more abortions.

    2. The left apparently only believes in democracy if it can excercise total control over what people can see and hear so that the only thing they are fed is left wing nut propoganda.

      Why are you terrified of so called disinformation – whether from Russia, China or elsewhere ?

      people without a college degree have done a very good job of sorting out what is true and what is false.
      Better than those on the left have

      Why would we give the power to decide what is disinformation to the very people who spread and beleived humongous amounts of disinformation ?

      I trust ordinary people to be able to sort out Russian disinformation – as well as the more common and problematic left wing nut disinformation.

      You rant about democracy – but you do not trust people

      1. “ The left apparently only believes in democracy if it can excercise total control over what people can see and hear so that the only thing they are fed is left wing nut propoganda.”

        Not true. Your disingenuous characterization of the facts only shows us your ignorance.

        “ people without a college degree have done a very good job of sorting out what is true and what is false.
        Better than those on the left have“

        No, they haven’t. People who are convinced their arguments from ignorance have proven them correct will not recognize they are arguing from ignorance.

        “ I trust ordinary people to be able to sort out Russian disinformation – as well as the more common and problematic left wing nut disinformation.”

        Then you’re more ignorant than I imagined. People don’t “sort out” disinformation. Especially MAGA nuts and some on the far right. They “sort out” disinformation by concocting wild conspiracy theories and running on assumptions fed by their own ignorance of the facts. Once they start down that sordid rabbit hole, they never come out. They keep on digging when they cannot face the prospect that they may be wrong. It becomes a vicious cycle of doubt and suspicion about those who do know more than they do and have a better grasp of the facts.

        “ You rant about democracy – but you do not trust people.”

        Can’t fully trust people who obviously are full of sh!t and don’t know what they are talking about. In the end, they will continue to spiral into their respective rabbit holes of ignorance until the day they cease to believe anything contrary to their entrenched views. Christians love those kinds of people because they are the easiest to mislead and believe anything they are told by those with “the right authority”.

  10. Treaty on European Union (1992), European Economic Community (1957), European Atomic Energy Community (1957), European Coal and Steel Community (1951) all these were precursors to what we see today from divided and diverse State entities.

    H.G. Wells ‘The Open Conspiracy’,
    “… when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people … will hate the new world order, be rendered unhappy by the frustration of their passions and ambitions through its advent and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people.” I do believe H.G. Wells was a Socialist much like Orwell.

    Hate to use Wikipedia but quoting the first paragraph under the search [New World Order]:

    “The New World Order (NWO) is a term often used in conspiracy theories which hypothesize a secretly emerging totalitarian world government. The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian one-world government—which will replace sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda whose ideology hails the establishment of the New World Order as the culmination of history’s progress. Many influential historical and contemporary figures have therefore been alleged to be part of a cabal that operates through numerous front organizations to orchestrate significant political and financial events, including taking advantage of systemic crises or even causing them in order to push through controversial policies at both national and international levels, as steps in an ongoing plot to achieve world domination.” There are many citations within the paragraph.

    Orson Welles “when people accept breaking the law as normal, something happens to the whole society.”
    I used this quote as a reminder that there are Man’s laws and there are much superior laws of Nature or in some parlance God’s Law.

    We are experiencing this in America; just grandeur the magnificence of the leftist’s sanctuary cities, and their coddling and protecting the lawless.

  11. Jonathan, I was kicked out of Barns and Nobel, whom I have spent 1K$ in over the last 50 years, exercising free speech, when purchasing a glass of lemonade. Startled by the extremely ugly clerk with her metal horns coming out of her nose: ” You’re ugly!”

    I walked toward the books to seek what I came in for.

    Manager demanded leave.

    I left while I retorted, “my kin E Gerry authorized the Bill of Rights, this is America not Nazi=Tory land. Manager is UK EVIL. Has no right to be on the land of Pilgrims Pride.

    Is a very traumatic to me at 75! pegpullen@ptoton.me

  12. . The picture of uncle Sam taking it easy and prosperity is up in smoke.

    Give free speech to a pack of liars and thieves and they’ll use it to lie and rob. Free speech has its good and bad sides. In itself free speech isn’t good or bad but when it’s used it identifies the person.

    Carpe diem…

    1. ^^^ The old idea of is god good or bad holds true, too. If you’re a good person then God is good and if you’re a criminal God either doesn’t exist or he’s his alternate self as Satan.

      80% of these people have no laws at all. Give a murderer freedom and he’ll murder.

      The EU is forcing reality upon people waiting for generations die to kill history. They follow Satan. Satan is their god.

      Currently, within a twenty year period the US is without moral authority, PT. Freedom of speech gave us Hustler mag and Lil Wayne and Tammy Faye Baker, the God of punishment.

      Quite hopeless Barry and your world must be destroyed. That’s envy, Barry. You didn’t care.

      Carpe diem

  13. @ThierryBreton 3:53 PM – Dec 23, 2025 “Is McCarthy’s witch hunt back?” …. This from a verifiable techno-FEUDALIST, whose aims are to crush the middle class and control the vassals.

    “It’s been a rough year for the politician, but at least he has his millions of dollars to ease the pain. [Seventy]-year-old Thierry Breton has taken the No. 1 spot on People With Money’s top 10 highest-paid politicians for 2025 with an estimated $58 million in combined earnings….The French politician-business man has an estimated net worth of $185 million. He owes his fortune to smart stock investments, substantial property holdings, lucrative endorsement deals with CoverGirl cosmetics.” https://en.mediamass.net/people/thierry-breton/highest-paid.html

  14. It is quite amusing to see you MAGA morons with your fake outrage about so called censorship in Europe.
    You seem to think that we Europeans are being oppressed by a rabidly authoritarian government intent on suppressing our rights. But this is far from reality, just like the rest of the bizarre beliefs of your cult.

    In Europe, 80% of people believe that disinformation, especially online, is a national security risk, and that the government should actively intervene against false and manipulative information. We support the Digital Services Act by a ratio of 4 to 1.
    Only 20% perceive the DSA as a threat to freedom of speech or a form of censorship.
    50% of Europeans believe U.S. criticism is motivated by a desire to protect the commercial interests of large American tech companies, and nothing more than that.

    So you see, we Europeans are perfectly happy with the Digital Services Act, and we quite correctly perceive the fake outrage in the US as a blatant attempt to interfere in our affairs, and protect the financial interests of the American mega-tech companies that we despise.

    We would be quite happy to see the likes of Elon Musk’s X cesspool completely eliminated in Europe.

    1. So, you speak for ALL “we Europeans,” do you? You’re ALL perfectly happy with your Digital Services Act, you say?

      * First of all, what gall to speak for an entire continent with an extremely one-sided and histrionic opinion, no less.
      * Secondly, your vassal-brain holds exactly the kind of mush needed to return Europe to feudalism and the worship of scoundrel overlords.

      1. French, German and Spanish participants to a YouGov survey called for stricter EU enforcements of digital regulations and consider Big Tech more powerful than the EU.
        The majority of French, Spanish, and German citizens want stricter EU enforcement of Big Tech, according to a new YouGov survey.

        Almost two-thirds in France (63%), 59% in Germany, and 49% in Spain said EU enforcement of laws addressing Big Tech’s influence and power is too relaxed, when asked to choose between too relaxed, too strict, or about right.

        Only 7% of respondents in France, 8% in Germany, and 9% in Spain felt the enforcement was too strict.

        https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/07/03/europeans-want-tougher-eu-enforcement-of-big-tech-poll

        1. “Statistics: the mathematical theory of ignorance.” Morris Kline — Bet that numerical diatribe felt good,

          but the self-serving numbers, managed by a self-serving governmental body like the EU, can never be trusted, as there is no deeper science behind the surveying when populations can be hand picked and stacked.

          Another extenuating factor, widely disregarded, is the influx of non-indigenous peoples whose religious codes/dogmas call for the censorship of everything from speech, to sexual orientation, to dress. Hold your horses on them-there-numbers, eager-beaver.

          1. “If your experiment needs statistics, you OUGHT to have done a better experiment” — Ernest Rutherford, Nobel Prize in Chemistry, 1908; often called “the father of nuclear physics,” contemporary/collaborator of Hans Geiger, Niels Bohr, and H.G.J. Moseley (chemistry, radioactivity, nuclear physics).

          2. You MAGA morons are entirely missing the point.

            Europeans do not regard this as a free speech issue.
            The issue is regulation of foreign Big Tech companies who are providing a platform for foreign adversarial countries to unduly undermine the political stability of the EU.
            Europeans simply want the detestable Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg to follow the sovereign laws of the EU. The US has absolutely no right to impose its law on the EU. If Musk and Zuckerberg want to do business in the EU, then they must follow EU law, NOT United States law.

            The intervention by the Trump administration in sanctioning EU officials is not about free speech. It is about trying to force the EU to allow Big Tech to operate with impunity for purely commercial and financial reasons, NOT free speech.

            The attempt to frame it as a free speech issue is a red herring to bait you MAGA morons into this fake outrage, which Turley is deliberately stoking.

            Where was your outrage when Tik Tok was threatened with being banned ???
            Where was your outrage when Trump forced Tik Tok to be sold to a US company ???

            Tik Tok was a foreign owned social media company operating in the US. The objection was that they were gathering personal data on US citizens and unduly attempting to influence the political opinions of Americans.
            This is EXACTLY what the EU is concerned about with regard to X and Facebook. Just like the US, the EU does not like FOREIGN social media behaving in ways that they find objectionable. They have every right to try to regulate them.

            In fact, they should follow the example of the US with regard to Tik Tok and force Musk and Zuckerberg to sell out to a European country.
            If it is good enough for the US, then it should be good enough for the EU.

            1. You are confusing the the EU’s DSA (which Turley is writing about) with the EU’s DMA (regarding crackdown on Big Tech). Try to read a little more carefully.

              1. While there may be a conflation, hold onto that idea because its instructive: one type or facet of the issue can naturally, endemically, be present, bleed into (or color) the other. Do you see that? There can be no doubt that what the EU is doing is not merely the control of Big Tech companies—that facade merely masks the tip of a far greater and more dangerous issue that has roots in far more than just “the unduly undermining of the EU’s political stability,” i.e., the RUSSIAN boogey-man, the Orange-Man, the Elon, and now the Zuckerberg, who was once well-loved for his “commercial” Zucker Bucks and voting Zucker Boxes (private funding of election offices, circa 2020)….

                Reading between the lines, translating, comprehensive insight, is as important as “reading words carefully.” It’s also important to identify resident and extenuating factors, when countries like Britain are meting out their “sovereign laws,” arresting people for merely speaking opinions, on those big tech platforms that you say “operate with impunity for commercial and financial reasons.”—Why don’t you put that strict accusation on the filthy-rich Thierry Breton and his EU cohorts?

                You’re being shortsighted, not only with your statistics, but with your definitions and the wider picture. Then again, how can you be fair? You’re not really an American. And it’s not “outrage” going on here—it’s common sense.

                1. What a load of nonsensical, irrelevant gobbledegook !!!
                  Why are you ranting incoherently about Russia, Zucker Bucks and the wealth of EU officials ???

                  The issue is very, very simple.
                  Europeans do not like FOREIGN social media companies operating in Europe in ways in which the vast MAJORITY find objectionable. The EU wants to regulate how these FOREIGN companies operate in their territory, and they have every right to do so. The EU has the support of the majority of Europeans.
                  They are simply demanding that these FOREIGN companies follow EU law.
                  The fact that you and the MAGA mob don’t like this, is completely and utterly irrelevant.

                  The Trump administration found the activities of TikTok to be objectionable and antithetical to US law, and tried to shut them down, then forced them to sell to a US company.
                  What would be the MAGA reaction if China had demanded that TikTok be allowed to operate here with no regulation ???
                  There is no difference between what Trump did to TikTok and what the EU is doing with X and Facebook.

                  1. You seem to have a diminished capacity for seeing how political constructs (like EU’s DSA, DMA) can become corrupted, misdirected and expanded to the detriment of free speech [much of which we are already seeing!], so here’s a brief elucidation: of the gobbledygook: The point of mentioning Zuck’s bucks and his voting boxes (is an indirect agreement with you about the wealth and control (perhaps interference) of a ubiquitous big-tech entity, thus Zuck’s nefarious and demonstrable influence; you did name FaceBook, which you complained about on behalf of the EU.

                    Though unnamed, Russia, which the EU harps about especially under cover of a proxy-war with Ukraine is about the foreign influence you say the EU has a right to protect against, via big-tech. You allude to all these outside factors with your defense of the EU’s regulation of foreign business entities in the name of what you called “the unduly undermining of the EU’s political stability” AND the interference of “big tech platforms” that you say “operate with impunity for commercial and financial reasons.” There are connections, many of which require intelligent inferences. It’s a shame that you cant see beyond your nose, how the web of connection will indeed lead to the quashing of free speech under the guise “sovereign EU law—that’s the gobbledygook!

                  2. Are you for real ?. Your posts read like hysterical garbage AI …… Oh dear lord give up already twinkie.

            2. Tik tok is quite dangerous . It rearranges thought patterns in viewers. It’s the most sophisticated form of brainwashing there is. It reconstructs brain activity. Tik talk…

            3. Anon 3:28PM – Your rage and hysterics are indicative of Advanced-Stage TDS. This platform isn’t the best place to vent that type of unhinged anger. See your therapist.

            4. The EU doesn’t want the equivalent of digital fentanyl to be imported. It is important to the self-image of MAGA supporters that nothing contradict their cult leader. This causes a conflict when the American producers of digital fentanyl are major contributors to the cult leader.

    2. Ah, your true colors – “We support the Digital Services Act by a ratio of 4 to 1”. So, you are from Europe and promoting the state as the arbiter of real, which I would posit is why the ration (if even real, which I doubt) is due to blocking opposing views. Europeans reliving “let them eat cake” will be more than a meme.

    3. >”In Europe, 80% of people believe that disinformation, especially online, is a national security risk, and that the government should actively intervene against false and manipulative information.”

      Hogwash. You’ve got that all backwards .. . it’s the thief of Kiev and his U.S./Nato high financiers (especially Starmer, Macron and Merz) who are the national/EU security risk and drop disinformation like pig turds in a hog lot,

      *I wouldn’t count on Trump’s America coming to your rescue any time soon .. .

      1. Re: dgsnowden says: December 29, 2025

        Was in Shanghai in 2010 for the Worlds Expo, They were advanced then (on par with San Jose California) – The U.S. will not catch up (to political, everything is to political in the US). But it is important to note that Rural China is not as advanced (although not far behind).

        Brilliant YouTube Link – Thnx

        1. Did the folks in China convince you to spell the word “too” with only a single ‘o’?

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