“Now is That Time”: Clintons Defy Congressional Subpeona and Trigger Contempt Proceedings

Woody Allen famously said, “80% of success in life is just showing up.” When it comes to Bill and Hillary Clinton and possible congressional contempt, it may be 100%. The two politicians have decided to defy lawful subpoenas issued by the House. For the House Oversight Committee, now is also the time for contempt proceedings.

Chairman James Comer and the House Oversight Committee are investigating the Jeffrey Epstein controversy and have subpoenaed the Clintons to testify. Neither has been accused of criminal conduct.

Bill Clinton failed to appear previously and Hillary Clinton refused to appear on Wednesday. Instead, they issued a chest-thumping letter of defiance, declaring:

“Every person has to decide when they have seen or had enough and are ready to fight for this country, its principles and its people, no matter the consequences. For us, now is that time.”

The Committee is likely to agree that “now is that time” and the consequences are the start of contempt proceedings.

On August 5, 2025, the Committee approved the subpoenas. Former President Clinton’s deposition was initially set for October 14, 2025. It was then moved to December 17, 2025.

In December, Comer postponed the depositions for a second time to allow the Clintons to attend a funeral. However, he said that their counsel, David Kendall, then declined to offer any alternative dates.

The vote to issue the subpoena was taken on an unusual bipartisan basis for the often divided Committee. Even Democratic members on the Oversight Committee, such as Rep. Ro Khanna, D-Calif., said that the Clintons must comply.

There was a time when subpoenas were viewed as more than discretionary matters.  Counsel has insisted that the testimony is unnecessary and a distraction. However, that is not a ground that any court would view as justification for knowingly and repeatedly ignoring a lawfully issued subpoena.

The position of the Clintons seems a repeat of the defiance of Hunter Biden, who chose to hold a press conference outside of Congress rather than appear inside for his deposition. He was accompanied by Democratic members like Eric Swalwell (D., Cal.).

At one time, Democrats were aghast at those who might defy congressional subpoenas.

President Biden maintained that defying subpoenas cannot be tolerated. When subpoenas were issued to Republicans during the House’s Jan. 6 investigation, Biden declared: “I hope that the committee goes after them and holds them accountable criminally.”

Two Trump associates – Steven Bannon and Peter Navarro – refused to appear in the House and were quickly held in contempt by a majority of the House, including Swalwell.

I wrote at the time that these individuals were also undeniably in contempt of Congress.

Now, however, such defiance is viewed as righteous and somehow excusable by figures such as Rep. Dan Goldman (D., N.Y.), who has routinely chosen political over institutional interests.

The defiance could result in a criminal referral for the couple, prosecutions that would mirror those under the Biden Administration.

In 2021, Hillary Clinton mocked Bannon’s indictment for contempt of Congress by saying that she planned for a “restful” weekend as he prepared for possible conviction.

It is an ironic moment. The Clintons are adopting the Bannon strategy that led to his conviction.

At the time of Bannon’s charge, I noted that all he had to do was appear and invoke his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. The Committee would then have had to issue an immunity grant to compel any testimony. The worst thing that you could do is not appear.

That is precisely what the Clintons just did.

In reality, I expect that neither Clinton is losing any sleep over the prospect of a criminal charge. They have spent their career dodging such prosecutions. Of course, this is a Republican-controlled House and Republican Administration.

What is most striking is the lack of any effort to come up with a cognizable defense. The Clintons simply chose open defiance. For those who have denounced a two-tier justice system, there is nothing more entitled and privileged than this letter. Such rules do not apply to the Clintons, who feel that they have the license to decide when they will appear.

They are wrong and, like Bannon, left themselves no viable legal defense. They are simply asserting a type of de facto Clinton immunity that could leave even a sympathetic federal district court judge with no real alternative to trial. David Kendall is an experienced lawyer and perhaps he will reveal a legal defense that escapes me. For the moment, I am baffled by the legal strategy. Indeed, I see no intelligible legal strategy at all in effectively saying that “we simply do not feel like it.”

They seem to be repeating the same pitch that Bill Clinton gave in the Lewinsky matter: “I ask you to turn away from the spectacle of the past seven months, to repair the fabric of our national discourse, and to return our attention to all the challenges and all the promise of the next American century.”

Despite a federal judge finding that Clinton lied under oath, it worked. The problem is that a defendant like Clinton can always argue in a perjury case that “it depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.” In this case, it does not depend on what the meaning of the word  “testify” is. Whatever the meaning, showing up is a critical element. It is hard to argue that you are not in contempt when you make your contempt for the Committee your defense.

Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the author of the forthcoming “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”

This column also appeared on Fox.com.

359 thoughts on ““Now is That Time”: Clintons Defy Congressional Subpeona and Trigger Contempt Proceedings”

  1. I believe Kash Patel gave us all a signal that justice will soon be served. He posted yesterday that the DOJ is nearing the end in preparing indictments. Reportedly, the raid and capture of Maduro turned up further evidence of 2020 election fraud, now Maduro can offer up what he knows in exchange for reduced charges.

    HRC cost Americans upwards of $42M with her smear campaign, how many cancer patients could that have helped, how many hungry kids could that have fed? Obama’s been mighty quiet lately too after being exposed as ringleader of a seditious conspirator … it’s coming.

    America wants accountability

  2. “Every person has to decide when they have seen or had enough . . .” (HC)

    Seen “enough” of what? The Epstein investigation?

    Just yesterday, D’s demanded 24/7 Epstein. What changed?

  3. Trump Blew Off Jan 6 Committee

    Multiple former presidents have voluntarily testified before Congress, but none has been compelled to do so. That history was invoked by President Donald Trump in 2022, between his first and second terms, when he faced a subpoena by the House committee investigating the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, riot by a mob of his supporters at the U.S. Capitol.

    Trump’s lawyers cited decades of legal precedent they said shielded an ex-president from being ordered to appear before Congress. The committee ultimately withdrew its subpoena.

    Comer also indicated that the Oversight committee would not attempt to compel testimony from Trump about Epstein, saying that it could not force a sitting president to testify.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/01/13/bill-hillary-clinton-epstein-congress-contempt/d8c54f72-f099-11f0-a4dc-effc74cb25af_story.html
    ……………………………………..

    Trump refused to testify before the January 6th Committee. What’s more, Trump ally, Congressman Jim Jordan, refused to testify before that same committee.

    Therefore it’s hard to understand why James Comer is so determined to bring contempt charges against the Clinton’s. The Clinton’s, it should be noted, have already filed written briefs explaining all they know about Epstein.

    Mrs Clinton claims she never actually met Epstein. And there’s no proof she ever did. Whereas Mr Clinton stopped associating with Epstein around the same time Donald Trump cut ties.

    One needn’t be too cynical to think Comer’s committee seeks to shift the Epstein scandal ‘away’ from Trump and onto Bill Clinton. And the spectacle of having the Clinton’s answer for Epstein would electrify viewers of Fox News.

    1. New Jan 6 Committee Convened Wednesday

      The Select Subcommittee to Investigate the Remaining Questions Surrounding January 6 held its first hearing Wednesday, showcasing how it will be a hub for the years-long arguments about the Capitol attack.

      Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), the chair of the panel, has spent years investigating Jan. 6 and the previous Democratic-led Jan. 6 select committee. And after a long delay in officially creating the subcommittee, he got backup from Trump himself, a source previously told The Hill.

      The stated topic for the hearing was to examine the FBI’s investigation of the pipe bombs placed outside the Republican National Committee and Democratic National Committee that were found on Jan. 6 — which Republicans had long accused Democrats of unduly ignoring as they focused on Trump. The FBI in December arrested Brian Cole Jr., accusing him of planting the bombs.

      https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5689756-jan-6-capitol-attack-republican-committee/
      …………………………………..

      It’s now Trump’s FBI directed by Kash Patel. Yet many on the far-right are skeptical about the alleged pipe bomber arrested in December. Suspect Brian Cole Jr is not the ‘deep state operative’ long theorized by MAGA types. This new committee could possibly struggle to accomodate all the MAGA conspiracies surrounding January 6th.

    2. The Supreme court ruled when they tried to railroad Trump they are protected ONLY IF IN THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES and the left cheered. Molesting underage women is not an official Presidential duty. Now the left whines. Also Hillary was never the President.

      Why don’t the Clinton’s wan to testify? Because they don’t know what the DOJ and Congress have on them. If they lie and it can be proven they are going to prison just like Martha Stewart. If they tell the truth it could be quite embarrassing to criminal charges. Billy got away with lying to Congress over Monica (I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman) because he was the president at the time, he is not the president now. Bill and Hillary need to show up, testify and tell the truth or go to jail.

      1. Bill never lied to Congress, because he never testified to Congress. “I did not have sex with that woman” was at a press conference, where he had no duty to tell the truth. He was impeached and lost his law license over his perjury to a grand jury and in his deposition in the Paula Jones case, and his attempts to suborn perjury from others.

      2. Bill and Hillary are useless now. They have blown any and all of what they had left to offer.
        Surprising that Brennan or Bibi hasn’t cleaned this up – they’re risky business.
        A loose end of trouble waiting to happen. Only a matter of time.

    3. Monica blew off Bill…
      Ghislane Maxwell was a welcomed guest at Chelsea’s wedding to Soros grandson. If Hillary’s lips are moving she’s lying, Benghazi and the death of a US ambassador was because of an anti Islamic movie …remember?

      Bend and stretch, reach for the stars…

      1. Another liar heard from. Where did you get the bizarre and totally STUPID idea that Chelsea’s husband is Soros’s grandson, or related to him in any way at all?????

        Do you also think John Kerry’s Persian-American son-in-law is somehow related to the Iranian regime?! Or that Newsome is Pelosi’s nephew?! Maybe you think Trump’s German grandfather was Hitler’s second cousin, or some stupid thing like that?

  4. Another great piece, but an omission is that Navarro and Bannon were not only convicted, they SERVED TIME IN PRISON. This didn’t happen to Eric Holder and certainly won’t happen to the Clintons…and they know it.

    1. Eric Holder is not a good precedent. The reason he was never prosecuted was because the president of the time was from his own party. Navarro and Bannon were prosecuted because the president at the time was from the opposite party. The current president is from the opposite party to the Clintons, so there’s no reason they would not be prosecued.

      1. Yes and no. The prevalent system – ahem Bureaucracy in the background is still all D brand infested. And liek they have done before they toss monkey wrenches in the works to gum up and delay or outright scuttle such things that may reflect badly on their D brand gods.

        1. The decision doesn’t like with the bureaucracy, it lies with the US Attorney for DC. 0bama’s USA was a Dem loyalist, so of course he refused to prosecute Holder. The current USA (I forget who it is) will have no problem prosecuting the Clintons, and if he does he can be fired and replaced.

  5. . Why hasn’t the autopsy report and forensics been released for Renée Good? Still investigating I presume?

    It’s most unfortunate the governors in some States aren’t helping with mob control. Laws are made to keep wise men and fools safe. In such times as these laws are all there is to keep people safe. Women and men are still being foolish. It gets people killed.

    It’s fundamental.

    1. ” Why hasn’t the autopsy report and forensics been released for Renée Good?”
      What do you expect to find ? She was shot in the face.

      That was inevitable – The officer is not that Tall, Good was in an SUV, Good was not that tall – if you look at her through the windshield in the Officer Cell video the only thing you can see is her face and hands. The bullet hole in the windshield was low. Pretty much right where her head was.

      ” Still investigating I presume?”
      The investigation will likely last a long time.
      If you want something quick – watch the Videos. It was obviously a justified shooting.
      It is not impossible for further evidence to change that – but it is highly unlikely.

      “It’s most unfortunate the governors in some States aren’t helping with mob control.”
      Correct – there has been another shooting in Minneapolis – of a man being deported, after two people cam out of their home with shovels and started beating the ICE agent – then the suspect beat the ICE agent and was shot in the leg. The suspect, and the two idiots who thought it was a good idea to go after LEOs with a shovel are all in custody.

      Some “protesters” threw Urine into n ICE vehicle.

      There have been several more rammings or attempted ramming of ICE.

      There are fireworks being fired at ICE

      And people are getting arrested.

      Walz and Frey seem to be gaining a small amount of sanity and have called on “protesters” to go home.

      But they still think that ICE agents enforcing the law is an occupation.

      There are currently 5 times as many ICE agents in Minneapolis as there are officers in MPD.
      But many of those was tasked with the Fraud investigation.

      Apparently recently 700M in cash was found being smuggled out of the Minneapolis airport.

        1. Mindless BS is what the left is running on…especially the Soros funded & paid agitprops in minsomaliapolis.

      1. But they still think that ICE agents enforcing the law is an occupation.

        But it is an occupation. Just like carpenters making things, plumbers fixing toilets, and journos misreporting the news.

        Ohhhhh, you mean that kind of “occupation”… 🙂

  6. Why arent dems in the street protesting the deaths of the Iranian protesters? The dems support the ayotollah?

    Is that odd?

    Peace on earth, good will toward men

    1. Joke Biden allowed measles back into America when he allowed all those sick latinos out of mexico and into the United States.

    2. ATS – measles was eradicated in the US in 2004.

      All measles cases since then have been the result of foreigners entering with Measles.

      More recently illegals.

    3. Briben bitler did that letting in hordes of illegals. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

  7. THE BIGGEST LOSER

    Kamalala Harris lost every primary.

    Kamalala Harris lost the election.

    Kamalala Harris lost every state.

    Kamalala Haris did not win one state.

    Kamalala Harris lost $2 billion on the election.

    Kamalala Harris won Willie Brown, a man married with children.

    Kamalala Harris’ only skill set is making goofy word salads.

    Kamalala Harris enjoys book sales that appear completely implausible.

    How in the —- did Kamalala Harris get the $8 Million to buy a luxury estate in Malibu?

    1. Black privilege…
      She did claim that there was going to be a bust of her as VP in the White House, so everyone can see the boob!

      1. AI Overview

        Kamala Harris’ husband, Doug Emhoff, is a successful entertainment lawyer, and while his exact net worth isn’t public, their combined wealth (including his lucrative career and her political earnings) was estimated by Forbes at around $8 million in mid-2024, with significant assets from his prior law firm earnings and real estate investments. Emhoff earned over $1 million annually at his firm, DLA Piper, before joining Georgetown Law, contributing substantially to their joint financial standing.

        1. ” a successful entertainment lawyer” Where have I heard that before …. Hummm? …
          Oh Yeah, Sugar Bro Atty. Kevin Morris for Hunter Biden’s representation.
          Seem the Dems have a thing for ‘entertainment lawyers’.

          Hollywood insiders front-running the Government, Boy-O-Boy how Ronald Reagan (Actor) really changed the playing field.

          1. She no doubt milked her campaign and DNC fundage. It’s what they do best with other peoples money.

  8. They are betting on jury nullification by a DC jury if the judge doesn’t outright dismiss because reasons. Pretty safe bet.

    I am sure random assignment will drop this one on Boasberg’s desk as per.

    1. Jury nullification must be eliminated by changes of venue or other modifications sufficient to the task. Trials must be fair to the prosecution as well as the defense. Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech. Defamation laws, perjury laws, et al. are unconstitutional and violate the 1st Amendment. Every criminal trial begins with a lie, “My plea is not guilty, Your Honor.” No person shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself. Speech can not and shall not be abridged.

      1. Don’t be ridiculous. Defamation and perjury laws do NOT violate the constitution, and the best proof is that the very same people who adopted the first amendment saw no problem with such laws.

        And changes of venue can’t do much about nullification, because a crime MUST be tried in the state and district where it was allegedly committed. No court can move the trial out of that state or district, under any circumstances.

        1. So, pay no attention to the Constitution?

          Thank you, Karl.

          1st Amendment

          Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech….

          It could not be less material that certain people “saw no problem with such laws.”

          1. And you’re still an ignorant lout. Defamation and perjury laws DON’T ABRIDGE the freedom of speech.

            The constitution means today exactly what it meant at the time it was adopted. If no one at the time saw any problem with such laws, that must mean they didn’t think they were a violation.

            They certainly did object loudly when a few years later Congress passed the sedition laws, and as soon as they got back in they repealed them and pardoned everyone who had been convicted under them. But they never said one word against prosecuting perjurers, or against suing defamers.

  9. I am impressed that the Clintons had someone killed in order to create a funeral so they could skip their subpoena dates

    Just kidding, mostly.

    1. That Rush Limbaugh died on his own is proof that the Clintons never had anyone killed. That Bannon is still alive is further proof. Above it all is that Newt Gingrich is still breathing. That hypocritical jerk? he went after Bill Clinton for a single act. Newt?

      “Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House, cheated on his wives. The romance began with his high school teacher; they married, she got cancer, then he ran to his mistress. His mistress developed multiple sclerosis while he begged for an open marriage, but she was the wiser, so he fled to wife number three.”
      https://newuniversity.org/2012/02/14/gingrich-and-his-three-wives/

      1. Another idiot heard from. He did NOT go after Clinton for any number of sexual acts. He went after him for ACTUAL FELONIES that he had committed, namely perjury, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power. Of course Clinton’s main crime was bribery, but he wasn’t impeached for that because although no sane person could believe him innocent his corrupt influence managed to cover up the evidence that would prove it beyond reasonable doubt, so he skated on it to this day.

  10. I’m actually very happy for James Comer and House Republicans to establish the precedent that former presidents should be hauled before congressional committees to be questioned about Epstein, pardons and other matters.

    1. So true. The lawfare of the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs) must be abrogated and eliminated.

        1. The American Founders were conservative, and their Constitution is conservative, as are actual patriotic Americans to whom that document is simply law, as in you —-ing criminals break the law, you are arrested and prosecuted.

            1. The political labels “conservative” and “liberal” have changed meaning over time. The political movement known as “whig” in the 18th century, and as “liberal” in the 19th, is now called “conservative”. Almost all of the USA’s founders were whigs, i.e. what we now call conservative.

              The modern Conservative movement is generally considered to have been founded by Edmund Burke, who was identified in his time as a “New Whig”. He supported the American revolution but condemned the French one, and history proved him right both times.

    2. Naturally. There’s nothing to ask Trump about any of these things, but once he’s out of office if some future Congress wants to waste its own time and his by asking him, let it go right ahead.

    3. “I’m actually very happy for James Comer and House Republicans . . .”

      Apparently, you missed the word “bipartisan.” And in case you don’t have access to a dictionary, it means “from both parties.”

    1. The Republicans have spent decades looking to charge the Clinton’s with crimes and have failed. Either the Republicans have no one who can do an investigation or there is nothing to be found and they have been wasting time and taxpayer resources in a vendetta.

      1. Clinton’s crimes were clear and obvious, but his corrupt network managed to shut witnesses’ mouths with promises of pardons, so the only crimes that could be proven beyond reasonable doubt were perjury and obstruction. And even on those there was no point in bringing it to a DC jury because they would be sure to acquit him no matter how strong the evidence.

        But cast your mind back to the Cattle Futures affair. There is no possible benign explanation for that. No one can deny that it was bribery, and they were both guilty. But by the time it came to light the statute of limitations had passed so they couldn’t be tried for it.

  11. Steve Bannon Was Set To Produce Friendly Documentary On Epstein

    The day of his arrest on federal sex trafficking charges, Jeffrey Epstein was planning a documentary to rehabilitate his image. His partner in the project? Former Trump chief of staff, Steve Bannon, who subsequently emerged as one of Epstein’s staunchest critics after his death.

    The Epstein-funded doc was to feature interviews with luminaries across media, academia and politics to reshape the narrative. Among the high-profile participants mentioned was Michael Wolff, an Epstein pal and avid chronicler of the Trump presidency who was advising Epstein at the time on how to handle dealings with the president.

    If we arrange it can we film on the island?”, Bannon asked, referring to Little St. James, Epstein’s private Caribbean island where he’s alleged to have sexually abused minors. Epstein immediately agreed.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/bannon-epstein-doc-wolff-1236433536/
    …………………………………….

    It seems odd that MAGA influencer Steve Bannon was closely in touch with Jeffrey Epstein at the time of Epstein’s arrest. Why did Bannon want to associate with a figure whose friendship with Trump was so problematic? It doesn’t quite make sense.

    1. ATS – why would we beleive you ?

      Regardless lets assume that your claims are true.
      Bannon taking money from Epstain to “rehabilitate” his immage is perfectly legal and does not mean he knows anything about Epstains criminal conduct.

      1. John Say that’s not ‘my’ claim. That’s the Hollywood Reporter, a trade paper for the media industry.

        1. “That’s the Hollywood Reporter, a trade paper for the media industry.”

          Do you have a REAL source ?

          You do not seem to grasp – those of you on the left are the boy who cried wolf.

          I have no idea if your story is correct – nor any reason to even try to verify it.
          First the claim – if true is a nothing burger.
          Did Epsteins Florist know what he was up to ? What about his interior designer ?
          His barber ?

          At the same time – You and a sad rag from the fringe MSM made the claim.
          You have lost credibility.
          No one is listening – if the wolf comes – you will be eaten and no one will notice.

          1. Until this week I had never heard of the version of the story in which the boy gets eaten. In the version I heard as a child and throughout my life, it was the sheep under his care that were eaten, which means that he suffered no harm, and the harm happened only to the sheep’s owners who had not answered his alarm because they foolishly assumed that just because he was an established liar he must be lying this time too. They forgot that even liars sometimes tell the truth, so they lost their sheep. And they couldn’t even blame the boy and fire him, because he did his job properly, and raised the alarm as he was being paid to do. The true moral of the story is that even liars sometimes tell the truth, and one can’t dismiss something just because the person saying it is a liar.

            1. That’s the entire purpose of penalty for perjury, especially in public service. You remove the liar before their lies cause harm to others. A lie is a form of fraud, a fraud perpetrated against the people, a $42M dollar fraud in the Russia hoax to the TAXPAYERS. God knows how much that cost the Trumps and RNC in legal matters and PR.

              How long was the Director of Clinton’s and Rice’s little distraction movie lie held in custody, how much did he pay for legal counsel?

              See Clinton’s exhibit A
              Adam Schiff exhibit B
              Susan Rice exhibit C

              Give it to them to the hilt, they have earned every inch!

              1. No, that is NOT the reason. Perjurers are punished only for the harm they have caused, not for anything they might cause in the future.

                If you are referring to Nakoula Nakoula or whatever his name was, he was a genuine criminal, and he went back to prison because he had breached the terms of his parole. The only reason he got caught was because the 0bama administration had to blame him for the Libya terrorist attack, but once they did catch him the court really didn’t have a choice but to revoke his parole. I doubt his legal counsel cost him anything, he probably had a public defender; but since his only possible defense was “I should have got away with this” there wasn’t anything any lawyer could have done for him.

                Clinton perjured himself before a grand jury and again in a deposition.
                As far as I know neither Schiff nor Rice have ever perjured themselves. When speaking to the news industry no one has a duty to tell the truth.

  12. The defiance of the Clintons reminds us of the refusal of the Hollywood Ten to appear before the HUAC in the early 1950’s. They too were claiming to stand up to tyranny. They all were convicted of contempt and went to jail, and they were blacklisted by the industry. They all had Communist Party affiliations and none of them had “stood up” to defend the many millions of Stalin’s victims in the 1930s and 1940;’s. Like the Clintons, they viewed themselves as members of the elite free from the constraints that affect “the masses”.

    1. The American Communist party is not Stalin’s totalitarian government. Like how many Americans like to use the claim of being Christian to hide their very un-Christian acts, Stalin used communism as a banner to hide a malevolent dictatorship.

      Certainly if you support democracy you should, under that same reasoning, believe that the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is a democracy.

      East Germany under the Russians was the German Democratic Republic, the Deutsche Demokratische Republik. Again, labeled Democratic, but not actually so.

      You can either take the position that a self-assigned label is universally the same or that it isn’t.

      Also, if you see a Christian who isn’t feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, or tending the ill, they aren’t Christian. They are in a social club that just uses the name.

      1. The CPUSA was controlled by Stalin. It was run from Moscow and took its orders from there.

        Besides which, it wouldn’t have mattered if it weren’t. The USSR wasn’t evil because of Stalin, Stalin was evil because he was a communist. ALL communists are evil; Marxism itself is the most evil ideology ever invented by humans. (National Socialism and fascism ares just Marxist heresies; the differences between them and the original movement they broke away from are of interest only to members of those movements, like the differences between the Calabrian and Sicilian mafias.)

      2. Absolutely no “communist regeme” has ever actually been communist – and never will be.
        Real comminsm is impossible – it is completely at odds with human nature – that is why all attempts at communism are just a veneer over totalitarianism.

        I oppose Sen. Mac Carthy and HUAC – but that does not change the FACT that the american communist party WAS complete appologists for Stalin. Sorry – They OWN the mess that occured in Russia.

        I would further note that – Though Stalin was extra special super dooper totalitarian.
        The pre-stalin communism in Russia was really really bad. Not Stalin bad, Not Pol pot Bad, but worse than Maduro bad.
        and again the American Communist party defended the regime and was willfully blind to the disaster.

      3. “The American Communist party is not Stalin’s totalitarian government.”

        That’s odd. At the time, your Communist party openly supported Stalin.

        Today, your Communist party openly supports tyrannical butchers in Cuba and China. Oh, and Maduro.

  13. Can you stomach the audacity of these two career criminals trying to play the poor persecuted victim here after Hillary unleashed the Steele dossier on people and completely destroying their lives? Their letter is beyond disgusting, they are beyond pathetic without perception of their own hypocrisy.

      1. Completele ? No. But a huge amount of damage was done.

        Clinton and her crew Shill a massive hoax and lie to the FBI and
        Carter Page who was an actual CIA asset not only is defamed, but ultimately exposd as an asset ending his usefulness to the CIA

        People like Papadoulis and Van Zandt went to jail for minor misrecollections in FBI interviews. Danchenko, Sussman and Clinton get off.

      2. Really…
        The Steele dossier is the anchor for the Obama seditious conspiracy committed against a duly elected president. General Mike Flynn was nearly bankrupted and imprisoned. Exposure of a CIA operative that will never go back to his secretive service, Popadopolous a young aspiring political figure whose career was destroyed with an arrest and coherced guilty plea just like Flynn.

        Well guess what, there’s getting ready to be some lives destroyed and these two criminals are top of the DOJ list.

  14. All this commotion over people who want to protect illegal aliens(people who entered our country illegally). This is distopian. This is our country, not someone else’s. Furthermore those on the left want to take our attention away from the massive fraud that has been uncovered.

    1. Estovir, look at demographics. Whites aren’t having enough children to repopulate. That’s an issue in every developed country; including Japan and South Korea.

      1. True, and there will be consequences if we fail to address that.

        But we can no more legitimately allow people into the country illegallly than FORCE people to have children (or to have abortions).
        If we want more legal immigration – we must change the laws.

        It is NOT sufficient to beleive it is a good idea.
        it is not even sufficient to increase immigration because it is greatly beneficial to the country or that there will be a disaster without it.

        To increase immigration you need the consent of the governed. They are allowed to make bad choices.

        1. Congress has refused to change the laws. In part, it will do no good, because other white majority countries are also seeing tapering to declines in white populations, and the white supremacists don’t want to allow brown people to come here. So they intend to drop sex education and birth control and abortion and anything else that doesn’t force women to be breeding dams.

          1. White supremacists have nothing to do with it. They are very few in number, almost (but not quite) non-existent, and they have no influence on government policy. Current US immigration policy has absolutely nothing to do with skin color.

      2. Perhaps there are enough people right now, more than have ever been alive at one time in the history of mankind. Why does everyone think growth and development is the best path forward? It is not.

        1. Growth and development is not only the best path forward, it is the only path forward. Stagnation is death. If you’re not moving forward you’re moving backward. And as Julian Simon proved over and over again, people are a nation’s most valuable resource, not a burden. But it has to be people who are interested in being a resource, not ones who only interested in being parasites.

    2. Yes, it is, Bob. The dems need the census bodies and future voters.

      Harris said, we won’t go back? Go back where?

      1. “Racial separation, Lincoln went on to say, “must be effected by colonization” of the country’s blacks to a foreign land. “The enterprise is a difficult one,” he acknowledged, but “where there is a will there is a way,” and what colonization needs most is a hearty will. Will springs from the two elements of moral sense and self-interest. Let us be brought to believe it is morally right, and, at the same time, favorable to, or, at least, not against, our interest, to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task may be.”

        – Abraham Lincoln, Springfield, Illinois, June 26, 1857

  15. A few selected headlines from the only fake news source you can trust:

    – Bill Clinton says he’ll gladly testify on Epstein case just as soon as he gets back from this cool island
    – Five year old brought in to explain difference between boys and girls to Supreme Court
    – Minnesota DMV quietly removes cardboard cutout ICE agents from driver exam course
    – Trump orders RFK to add Big Mac and Diet Coke to food pyramid
    – Gotham’s liberal women gather outside Arkham to protest arrest of The Joker
    – Tucker Carlson heads to Iran to put down protests
    – Protesters protest for higher protesting wage
    – Democrats fear Iranian love of freedom could spread to America
    – US offers to trade its liberal women for Iranian women
    – Supreme Court brings in Ms. Rachel to explain cases to Ketanji Brown Jackson
    – St. Peter shows Scott Adams to his glorious heavenly cubicle
    – Americans now live in fear they could be killed for just hitting ICE agents with cars
    – Liberal politicians enraged at border czar vowing to secure the border
    – AOC to vote against making daylight savings time permanent, saying Americans consume too much daylight already

  16. And yet this lawfare IS a distraction, one executed and welcomed on both sides. We still don’t have all the Epstein files. This staged entertainment is put forth to distract us while our government is run by defense contractors, private equity and the elite, steadily putting more and more of American wealth in their bank accounts offshore while people on social security and Medicare/Medicaid are told that that they are too expensive, I mean, there IS less and less to steal, so why not take from the working and middle classes? And we run around, trying to claim a seat before the music stops.

    1. Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, to name only three unconstitutional programs or departments, enjoy no citable legal basis in the Constitution, are distinctly not general welfare but individual, specific, and particular welfare and favor and charity, serve only 18.7% of Americans, and may not be taxed for or funded per Article 1, Section 8.

      You have it completely backwards. Americans are to enjoy freedom to “pursue happiness,” create wealth, and be self-reliant, not enjoy benefits funded by other people’s money, all of which you have confused with Karl Marx and his Communist Manifesto, which is unconstitutional in America.

      The American Thesis is Freedom and Self-Reliance.

      Karl Marx’s thesis in his Communist Manifesto is, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”

      The latter sounds like you.

    2. The issue with lawfare is the legitimacy of the charges.

      Comey inarguably lied to congress.
      Congress claims powell lied to them – I am less familiar with the details.
      Cook lied on a sworn Mortgage Form.
      James also lied on a sworn mortgage form. She also lied to get better insurance rates.
      She also lied over and over regarding her NYC properties – but no one is going to prosecute that.
      Bolton actually put classifed information in his book.

      It appears Walz and Omar consp[ired to commit massive fraud in MN – but whether their involvement goes from immoral to actually illegal is not established.

      Trump did NOT incite a riot. The protest did not turn to a riot until the CP tear gassed peaceful protestors.
      There was no insurrection – attempting to persuade congress not to certify an election is not a crime.
      and whatever you think about the outcome of the 2020 election there is zero doubt there was massive scale failure to follow the law,
      and fraud sufficient to change the results in atleast one state.

      The WH documents of Ex presidents are their property – whether classified or not.
      No one defrauded deutche bank,
      Paying people for their silence about something legal that may or may not have happened is not fraud.
      It is not an election law violation – but if it was – that would be Federal and the FEC has said repeatedly for decades it is not a violation of the law, and none other than Jack Smith lost that case more than 3 decades ago.

      Being someones political enemy is NOT a get out of jail free card.
      Not having commited an actual crime is.

      Lawfare is when you MAKE UP crimes to get political enemies.

      Absolutely the standards should be higher when political animoisty is involved.

      Those in power should not be manufacturing new legal theories to go after their enemies.

      I would like nothing more than to see Bill and Hillary in orange jump suits.
      But congress should leave them alone.
      Republicans should not follow the democrats nonsense of going after ex presidents.

      Bill and Hillary will be remembered by history for their perfidity – that is sufficient.

  17. “Now is That Time”: Clintons Defy Congressional Subpoena and Trigger Contempt Proceedings
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    Speaking of Epsteinesque triggering, I’ll bet Monica Lewinsky has a mouthful to say about the Lewinsky that Ghislaine Maxwell allegedly provided George Clooney.

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