Winston Churchill, an avid painter, always said that “audacity” is the key to every artist. If so, Caspar San Giorgi, 39, has a good start on an artistic career in Great Britain. The Palestinian activist, who is reportedly Dutch and also goes by the name of Olax Outis, took a ladder and a box of spray paint in February to deface the famous statue of Churchill in Parliament Square. Despite his admitting to the crime and rejoicing in it, a British jury just found him not guilty in a blatant act of jury nullification.
Churchill also observed that “armed with a paint-box, one cannot be bored.” San Giorgi certainly proved that observation. He used red spray paint to write the messages “Free Palestine”, “Stop the Genocide”, and described Britain’s WWII leader as a “Zionist War Criminal.” He then reportedly boasted in court about causing the £7,000 in damage.
San Giorgi insisted that he is a “citizen of The Hague.” The International Criminal Court located at The Hague has declared Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal over the war in Gaza.
He said in court that this was a message for Sir Keir Starmer and Parliament: “If I had a larger canvas and more time, I would have written: ‘If Keir Starmer doesn’t come to The Hague, The Hague will come for him.'”
He told the jury that he was not guilty because he used paint that could be washed off and that his protest was “preventing a crime,” not committing a crime.
San Giorgi remained defiant and proud of his conduct:
“Whether you convict me or not is not too much of a concern for me. Whether I get acquitted, deported, imprisoned for years, I can be proud of having spoken about injustice and I have accounted for my actions. I will accept your judgement.”
The jury proceeded to declare him not guilty. It is regrettably a sign of the times in London. Rage has now replaced reason. In June 2020, the statue was vandalized so often that the city encased it in a wooden box. Rather than arresting those seeking to deface it, Churchill was boxed away from public sight.
Now, a jury has decided that it is not a crime to deface public property.
Churchill famously said that “the best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” I am beginning to see what he meant.
Be interesting to see if a British jury would convict someone for putting this POS in Intensive Care for a month.
It did not cost £7,000 to wash the statue. Since it looked quite clean where the paint didn’t reach, I’d say that the statue gets regularly washed to remove the pigeon droppings. If it cost more than £70 I’d be surprised.
What you’d be “surprised” by and the actual cost are two very different things.
It is a 12-foot tall bronze statue. According to the city of London, who already paid for the repairs, the final cost was over £7,000. That cost was for cleaning and *restoring* the bronze statue.
The Left might have some credibility if it would stop making stuff up.
Also fines are designed to punish, same as jail time. It has to deter, not just reimburse for costs, otherwise it doesn’t serve its purpose.
Sam, I read in the past that the statue was vandalized many times. I am interested in these types of costs, so I looked some things up. One time it was vandalized with paint; the cost was around 600 pounds. That made today’s cost seem very high. A further inquiry showed they repatinated the statue, and that required expensive scaffolding and significant work. The two-day cost for scaffolding was 3,000 pounds, and the patina work was 2,000 pounds.
Well, that was a completely pointless exercise, and waste of time.
Why would anyone be interested in these types of costs?
If this is what interests you, then you obviously lead a pathetically worthless life.
I have these interests, and they lead to a lot of money. Your brain is pea-sized, and your income probably reflects it.
The second reason was to see what his charges were and why. If this were a singular act and he didn’t cause the 7,000-pound bill, he should have paid moderate reparations and done community service.
Here too, you commented without knowing enough of the facts. Keep remaining anonymous to prevent your parents’ embarrassment.
So, you are interested in the costs of cleaning paint off statues, because it leads to a lot of money.
Do you have a professional interest in cleaning paint off statues?
Is that what you do for a living? I didn’t realize that this was a viable occupation.
Tell me, how much money do you make doing this?
Is your profound interest in these matters because the cost of cleaning the statue in London was more than what you typically charge?
Are you researching this matter in London with a view to increasing your charges?
Are you considering moving to London to take advantage of the higher payments for cleaning paint off statues?
Perhaps you should further investigate the methods that were used to clean the statue in London.
Perhaps you could advise the people in London about cleaning methods that are less costly.
Obviously you have a great deal of research and investigation yet to undertake on this vitally important matter.
I apologize for commenting “without knowing enough of the facts”. I must confess that I have not given enough thought to this hugely important matter, much less investigated it as thoroughly as you. As an obvious expert in cleaning paint off statues, perhaps you could enlighten us with the required facts to fully understand the intricate subtleties of cleaning paint off statues.
I watched the video of the washing – paint came off cleanly and there was no underlying change to the statue. If they wanted to “restore” it that is a separate task unrelated to cleaning off the paint.
The conservatives would have some credibility if they could provide any evidence to support their claims.
“According to the city of London” is a claim, provided without evidence, by both Sam and the City of London.
#. Outis was charged with damage and 7000 lbs for clean up. The facts of vandalism are present. He should pay the clean up at the least.
UK has qualified free speech. People can say and write what they choose unless a specific law says they cannot. They have many. There’s a specific vandalism law. Guilty as charged.
The US has unqualified free speech. A person cannot damage nor destroy property belonging to others. Defacing monuments wouldn’t stand in the US either.
Mr. Outis has a viewpoint that cannot be expressed by law in a manner that vandalized except a jury has changed the law? I hope they don’t start burning…
^^ . The verdict echoes the official stand of the UK. The UK officially Palestine as a State. The jury simply said we agree with your viewpoint. It’s unfortunate they’ve also said the expression is acceptable. They’ve nullified vandalism.
It’s finished and they’re importing Islam. State suicide that Douglas Murray has been speaking and writing about for years.
People in the US don’t understand free speech and the American culture as seen in the hideous speech of Hasan Piker. Piker is Turkish with an American birth certificate. He was culturing in his home nation of Turkey. It’s where he was cultured. He doesn’t really understand how he appears to Americans.
This brings multiculturalism into a dark light imo.
Ignore the trolls, folks
Sorry but rejecting the racial, Jewish supremacist ideology of Zionism doesn’t equal “multiculturalism.” Murder of civilians en masse in Gaza calls for extreme protest. The jury gets it. You don’t need too be a so called leftist you just need to be humane.
anon
Israel declared war. Gaza needs to surrender. They’re beaten. So too Iran.
*. ^^. Acculturated in Turkey. His parents left in his infancy. He returned as an adult. Personally, I’m not worried about Islam nor socialism. It’s abundantly clear these people must have gambling , naked girls and drugs.
England is one big Monty Python sketch…
Excuse punc ^
Can’t finish this thread, its putting me to sleep.😴
Get some rest professor 🥱
It’s not a major story for sure, but reflective of the suicidal narcissism plaguing western civilization, and in that way of a piece with the Lindsey Clancey debacle.
Yes – deaths in the West have exceeded hundreds of millions. Buildings collapse every day. Riots have spread to farms where billions of acres have burned and the farmers all killed.
Ho Hum old man with your worry that someone with an accent might be within 100 miles of you is tiring.
Good news – you can now qualify for the FBI and your (probably) incident with the sheep is now all good.
Black women are also coming on the Clancy case wanting their share of the action.
Perhaps billboards suggesting give your child to catholic charities. Don’t murder?
David, a few posts unflattering to Trump drove Estovir off the rails. What’s more, Estovir’s puppets have all been outed and he’s not sure where to go from here.
ANON COMMIE PUPPET
Maybe we’re not Estovir and your continued interruption to this site gave moment of pause in attention to your mental health illness.
WordPress Censorship Here.
The true British and American leaders are secretly planning a second English Civil War and American Revolution 2.0 at the Green Dragon.
From your lips to God’s ears.
Puppet Show Ahead
Readers should know the strange exchange ahead between Kirk and Anonymous is Estovir expressing his disgust for 2 posts further down.
These staged conversations, between puppets, tend to sound like wild babbling. Giving the forum a vibe that uncool commenters tend to find this place.
^ This person has a mental illness in which he childishly addresses everyone as Estovir.
He focuses on Estovir in particular because of Estovir’s masculinity. He has daddy issues, and is currently a beta male incel commenting from his mommy’s basement. Estovir is both a threat to his scared little soul, and a fascination for what a real man actually looks like.
Estovir your puppets are all just names. They can’t draft good arguments compelling to read.
Young, Olly, and Meyer stop by on occasion. But Estovir is the ‘only’ conservative more often than not. Which means he’s not that big of a draw.
^ See what I mean? He childishly addresses everyone as Estovir because, even though Estovir makes him pee his pants, he is secretly fascinated by Estovir’s persona. He thinks that if he pretends everyone is Estovir, he might become a real man one day. And he might be right, which is why we can anticipate this self-therapy lasting a considerable amount of time.
PSYCHO MORON STRIKES AGAIN!! Calling me Estovir is just weird. Sexual attraction to Estovir ANON?? Sicko!!
First PSYCHO ANON was calling me Dustoff and now Estovir!! Seek help!!
If young people would take the time to learn from older people they could enjoy their youth more fully instead of wasting time repeating avoidable mistakes.
There is a bot programmed with code that allows the user to type in the phrase of the day. Then it spits that phrase out all day long. Today’s phrase is “fat, dumb, stupid.” Look for that phrase in the 300 comments the bot (not human) will spit out today.
*fat, drunk, stupid
PSYCHO MORON ANON strikes again!! Look for a “I’m Estovir” reply!! ha ha ha
I am perfectly human, old fruit.
Perfectly? No way!! More like a PSYCHO
A human bot doing that is even more pathetic than a computer program. Instead of a questionable use of technology, it’s a waste of life.
If old people have nothing more to contribute to society, then should they be deprived of their right to life?
Old people have a great deal to contribute to society.
#WeAreEstovir
Does life stop having value at a certain age? If so, should guns be confiscated from old people?
You would save more lives by confiscating them from teenagers and the parents of teenagers.
Life does not stop having value at any age.
#WeAreEstovir
It’s AI and everywhere spewing hate old people most cleverly disguised. You’ll know it’s AI if it says–> gramma.
Malicious Vandalism In Washington
President Trump is doubling down on his insistence that he needs “recognition” from the Kennedy Center in return for planned renovations.
Trump’s assertion Friday afternoon seems to mean he is holding fast to his demand that his name should be added to the center in some shape or form — even though a court ruled against him on that score this past week.
Trump himself then raised the specter of the Kennedy Center, which officially opened in 1971, being demolished — or “ripped down,” as he put it. This in turn appears to have spurred a judge on Thursday to stipulate that 30 days’ notice would be required before any significant changes — including demolition — could be made to the building.
https://thehill.com/homenews/analysis/6099274-trump-recognition-kenneedy-center-renovation/
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This is what’s known as a hostage crisis. Trump has seized Washington’s premier arts center and is threatening to demolish it unless he can put his name above Kennedy’s.
No rationale president would attempt a stunt like this. Trump is crazed with spite! A vindictive buffoon determined to show how hateful he can be. Trump himself defines the meaning of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
^ Chinese propaganda slop ^
even worse, he posts Opinions from The Hill (an aggregator of various opinions from various sources) as factual news.
I wish we had more knowledgeable minds on this blog.
More Vandalism In Washington
President Donald Trump’s proposed 250-foot arch at Memorial Circle in Washington, D.C.—which he said would be the largest in the world—is being opposed by three Vietnam veterans who say the project would block views between the Lincoln Memorial, Arlington National Cemetery, and Arlington House, some of the most well-known views in and around the city.
Critics of the project contend that the planned structure is disrespectful to the solemn character of the cemetery. In addition, the Trump administration acknowledged in a planning document that the project will have “adverse effects on historic properties”.
“Such adverse effects cannot be fully avoided while retaining the location-dependent purpose of the undertaking,” the National Park Service wrote in the document.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lawyer-says-250-foot-trump-arch-disrupts-historic-sightlines-cherished-veterans-seeking-burial-arlington
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At 250 feet, Trump’s arch would be almost as tall as the U.S. Capitol; which is 288 feet. In other words, the arch would be an absurd colossus! A gigantic monument to Trump’s ego that serves no useful purpose.
And what ‘victory’ would this arch presume to commemorate?? That’s the insane irony here! Trump wants to rush construction of this arch while losing a war in the Persian Gulf. Like historians will forget that?
^ More Chinese propaganda slop ^
“Opposed by three Vietnam veterans” OH NO- 3 people out of 335 Million in the U.S. The Horror!!
You know damned well that they mean, “Opposed in court by three Vietnam veterans.” If your mate Dustoff really was a Vietnam veteran, perhaps he would care about Trump’s assault on the DC landscape. It is not as if Trump is a Vietnam veteran, given he bribed a doctor to dodge the draft, yet brags about heroism.
My mate Dustoff?? HUH? LAME! Was Biden a veteran?(phony asthma excuse from a doctor) Clinton? Obama? You?
What a DF ANON is!!!
I am indeed a veteran.
So? Did you claim Biden used a phony claim of asthma from a doctor?? I have NEVER seen Biden have any asthma problems; or any reference to using asthma medicine! But you attack Trump for being patriotic? Only veterans can be patriotic??
ANON should damned well STFU!!! ha ha ha ha
ANON loves the OBAMA ugly monstrosity of a library scarring up the Chicago neighborhood??? Cost 1 BILLION dollars for a POS ugly library!!
Darren, what in the world are you allowing here?
Darren doesn’t live here anymore.
Darren is just another of Estovir’s puppets.
Sophomoric replies from PSYCHO ANON DAILY!! What a loser!!
ALLOWING YOUR CRAP!!!
^^^ this is a bot. I’m addressing it so it wakes up. Don’t feed them responses they’re in sleep mode.
JFK, Monster
By Timothy Noah
“I knew that John F. Kennedy was a compulsive, even pathological adulterer, given to taking outlandish risks after he entered the White House. I knew he treated women like whores. And I knew he had more than a few issues with his father about toughness and manliness and all that. But before I read in the newspaper that Mimi Alford’s just-released memoir, Once Upon A Secret: My Affair With President John F. Kennedy And Its Aftermath, described giving Dave Powers a blow job at JFK’s request and in his presence, I didn’t know that Kennedy had an appetite for subjecting those close to him to extreme humiliation.
This part of Alford’s story doesn’t really add anything to what we already know about Kennedy. Nor does it really change my opinion of the 35th president. But this part does:
Dave Powers was sitting poolside while the President and I swam lazy circles around each other, splashing playfully. Dave had removed his jacket and loosened his tie in the warm air of the pool, but he was otherwise fully clothed. He was sitting on a towel, with his pants leg rolled up, and his bare feet dangling in the water. The President swam over and whispered in my ear. “Mr. Powers looks a little tense,” he said. “Would you take care of it?”
It was a dare, but I knew exactly what he meant. This was a challenge to give Dave Powers oral sex. I don’t think the President thought I’d do it, but I’m ashamed to say that I did. It was a pathetic, sordid, scene, and is very hard for me to think about today. Dave was jolly and obedient as I stood in the shallow end of the pool and performed my duties. The President silently watched.
Afterwards, Alford says she was “deeply embarrassed,” and as she climbed out of the pool she “could hear Dave speak in as stern a tone as I ever heard him use with his boss. ‘You shouldn’t have made her do that,’ Dave said. ‘I know, I know,’ I heard the President say.
Later, a chastened President Kennedy apologized to us both.” Alford believes that Kennedy showed “his darker side … when we were among men he knew. That’s when he felt a need to display his power over me.” Kennedy didn’t just have a thing for Social Register girls; he had a thing for humiliating Social Register girls. He also had a thing for humiliating his fellow Irishman, Dave Powers.
Not so much jury nullification as Britain nullification.
The Britain we admired and benefited from is gone.
We still have it’s ruins to admire.
And like Gibbon gazing upon the ruins of the Roman Forum, we may ask, “What happened?”
We know what happened. Liberalism overwhelmed national survival.
Yes.
Raptured to a higher level …
What does Turley, that tireless champion of the First Amendment, have to say about Trump banning MSNOW, CNN, and Politico from the White House?
Is the WH press room Full ?
I am entirely in favor of giving teh seats of the dinosaur legacy media to the independent media reporters of the future.
Is there a reason that the WH press room needs to be full of dinosaurs ?
You mean the seasoned journalists who won’t just parrot Trump’s BS or the young’uns just throwing soft questions at the president?
Trump want to censor the press because his agenda and his war with Iran is doing badly. Plus the economy is not where he claims it is. He’s acting like Baghdad Bob.
you were gone for a whole hour and a half. Just get home from your shift work and immediately had to check in to see what people said about you?
This. Was. Brutal.
Did you cry about Biden’s censorship?? HELL NO!! X related to Hanoi Jane Fonda??
Seasoned journalists repeating DNC crap!!!
X copied “young-uns” from someone else also. I remember seeing that.
I’m pretty sure it’s because they’re stupid.
Please explain in what way the First Amendment prohibits Trump from making that decision.
But I’ll tell you what does violate 1A. The “Joe Biden” administration embedding federal agents into social media companies to censor stories that contradict the government’s narrative.
#WeAreEstovir
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
This will be a slam dunk in the courts against Trump, not least so close to the elections.
You’re the guy who told me over and over on this blog that Trump was going to lose to Harris in the 2024 election. How did that work out for you, son?
#WeAreEstovir
Wrong, was not me. I would never have suggested Harris was credible. It should be a matter of lasting shame on the USA that the best it could do in the past three presidential elections was offer up Trump, Harris, Biden and Clinton. None of them fit for the office.
Clinton and Trump were fit for office. Both had personality flaws, but who doesn’t? Both did a few things wrong but helped America more. The other two, overwhelmingly destructive, and you can add Obama to that list. In fact Obama was the most destructive to American interests in history.
Bill, not Hillary.
Fat, drunk and stupid= PSYCHO MORON ANON!! Fixed it.
Says the fat, drunk and stupid guy.
LAME reply as usual from PSYCHO MORON ANON!! Sophomoric too!
Actually said by a Dean, not a sophomore.
Sophomoric doesn’t mean sophomore you DF DEAN!!
AI Overview
No, a sophomore is a second-year student, but sophomoric is an adjective that describes immature, conceited, or pretentious behavior.
A REAL DEAN SHOULD KNOW THAT YOU DF ANON!!!!
Darren, these are grounds for immediate removal.
Checkmate.
Kicking CNN, M SNOW and Politico out of the press room is no loss. They’ve already said everything they’re ever going to say.
Even Turley has said it is a huge mistake and unconstitutional…
So then you answered your own question. But you didn’t provide any link or other specifics. Until you do, I don’t believe you.
Maybe, but it’s commerce. The big scoop isn’t available to those entities.
“What does Turley, that tireless champion of the First Amendment, have to say about Trump banning MSNOW, CNN, and Politico from the White House?”
Try actually reading the First Amendment to the United States Constitution before invoking it, you communist dipshit. It begins “CONGRESS shall make no law…”. It says nothing about administrative management of the home of the Executive branch. Who to admit or deny admission to that facility is completely at the discretion of the head of that Branch (POTUS, if you need a clue): the First Amendment does not apply to that discretion.
Well, to be fair, it does apply to executive actions that suppress speech – like the “Joe Biden” administration embedding federal agents in private media companies to censor stories unfavorable to the administration. But a decision not to invite a corporation into the White House does not suppress speech. So your overall point that the anonny throws around the First Amendment without knowing much about it is valid.