University of California Merced History Professor Sean Malloy is the latest academic to go full Madam Defarge in higher education. Malloy is calling for the assemblage of tribunals to “dezionize” universities. He has explained that “People’s Tribunals” go beyond ridding universities of zionists “but also confronting the role of Zionist organizations, donors, Regents, and administrators in repression targeted at members of the university community.”
Malloy argues that “the tradition of People’s Tribunals perhaps provides a better path forward.” It was not enough to virtually eliminate conservatives and libertarians from faculty departments. He calls Zionists the “driving force behind many of the external and internal threats to the UC and its faculty, staff, and students.”
According to his faculty bio, Sean Malloy teaches at the university’s Department of History & Critical Race and Ethnic Studies with a specialty in “colonialism, war, white supremacy, and the critical study of Zionism.” He writes in the Ethnic Studies Council at UC Substack that Zionism is a “driving force behind many of the external and internal threats to the UC and its faculty, staff, and students.”
The People’s Tribunal would “extensively document the University’s past complicity with the crimes of the Israeli state as well as its internal repression of anti-Zionist dissidents and then to formulate appropriate remedies and forms of accountability.” He added that they might “include representatives from Palestinian universities who could provide recommendations on how UC might at least partially atone for its past complicity with the destruction of those universities and the murder of their students, faculty, and staff.”
This is not merely to cleanse the university of “zionist” Regents and administrators, but “others within the UC system” who are guilty of “active collaboration with Zionism” or “the repression of students, staff, and faculty here at the UC.”
Previously, The College Fix reported how Malloy was outraged by a “threatening” display posted by the UC Merced College Republicans because it included the phrases “I Love Undocumented Firearms” and “ICE ICE Baby.”
Ironically, the man who is now calling for People’s Tribunals declared that he was “disgusted that some of [UC Merced] students would advocate for the government-sponsored ethnic cleansing of their fellow students.”
This is the type of academic whom faculty and administrators believe should be teaching students today. We recently discussed how Harvard Medical School hired an artist-in-residence who called for the release of Luigi Mangione and helped organize a panel that explored how weight-loss drugs are a militaristic, imperialistic plot.
Radical faculty members on the left are common across the country, and many espouse the same hate-filled and violent rhetoric.
Professors have regularly advocated “detonating white people,” denouncing police, calling for Republicans to suffer, strangling police officers, celebrating the death of conservatives, calling for the killing of Trump supporters, supporting the murder of conservative protesters, and making other outrageous statements. A San Diego University professor celebrated the death of an Israeli soldier who was eaten by a shark.
While you cannot be too radical on the left for many departments, even a moderate or center-right applicant will find it challenging to secure a teaching position today. An openly conservative candidate would be a nonstarter at many departments. Forty percent of faculty admit they would never vote for a Trump supporter, regardless of qualifications, publications, or accomplishments.
Instead, they hire faculty like Malloy, who believes that faculties must now also be purged of accused zionists. For faculty who were silent as their conservative and Republican colleagues were gradually eliminated from departments, the move should hardly be surprising. We have seen those who once supported speech regulations and woke policies become the targets of the very mobs that they once appeased.
In Rage and the Republic, I write about how academic and political figures are ignoring history as they pander to radical groups. Democratic leaders like Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries believe that they can ride a rage wave back into power. What they ignore is how these revolutions ultimately “devour their own.” Today’s revolutionaries become tomorrow’s reactionaries.
Of course, Professor Malloy and his People’s Tribunals will no doubt sort out those remaining in higher education.
This kind of leaves me a bit enraged myself. The enemy is within and is working diligently to relieve us of our freedom, security and prosperity. I don’t feel the need to continue tolerating their free speech much longer.
Clinton’s contribution to the Fall of the United States as a moral leader throughout the world, should not be surprising. He lied often. He assaulted and abused women from his collegiate days thru his 8 years in the White House.
Among other corrupt behavior, in exchange for a 1.4 million dollar donation to Clinton and the dems from Bernie Schwartz head of Loral Space, he received a waiver from Clinton to provide the Chinese highly classified satellite tech.
Clinton’s contribution to the Fall of the United States as a moral leader throughout the world, should not be surprising. He lied often. He assaulted and abused women from his collegiate days thru his 8 years in the White House.
Among other corrupt behavior, in exchange for a 1.4 million dollar donation to Clinton and the dems from Bernie Schwartz head of Loral Space, he received a waiver from Clinton to provide the Chinese highly classified satellite tech.
Much like Prof. Turley, my mother was a deeply thoughtful woman who supported the Democrat party of Fdr . Voted for Adlai Stephenson, and supporter of JFK as well.
I wish she were alive today so I could hear her concise commentary on how the party has ‘changed’ for the worse
At what point do the voters in California rebel against the ineptitude, incompetence and insane spending of their public officials? Trains to Nowhere at $30+ billion; wildfires that destroy thousands of homes; closure of needed oil refineries; nut cases such as Malloy. The list is endless, yet the voters/inhabitants of CA continue meekly down the road as sheep to the slaughter.
DSA
The “dictatorship of the parasites.”
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Thou Shalt Not Covet
Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness
Thou Shalt Not Steal
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It’s no wonder why they ban religion.
I think it is fair to say that Sean Malloy is a bad witch, and that is being charitable. That or he has microcephaly, far worse than being a munchkin.
are you a good witch or a bad witch…the munchkins called me because a new witch has just dropped a house on the Wicked Witch of the East and there’s the house and here you are and that’s all that’s left of the Wicked Witch of the East. and so what the munchkins want to know is: are you a good witch or a bad witch?…only bad witches are ugly
Proclamation 80—Calling Forth the Militia and Convening an Extra Session of Congress
“On April 15, 1861,…President Abraham Lincoln issued a proclamation calling forth the state militias, to the sum of 75,000 troops, in order to suppress the rebellion. He appealed ‘to all loyal citizens to favor, facilitate, and aid this effort to maintain the honor, the integrity, and the existence of our National Union.’”
Proclamation 92—Warning to Rebel Sympathizers
“[On] July 17, 1862,…I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, do hereby proclaim to and warn all persons within the contemplation of said sixth section to cease participating in, aiding, countenancing, or abetting the existing rebellion or any rebellion against the Government of the United States and to return to their proper allegiance to the United States on pain of the forfeitures and seizures as within and by said sixth section provided.”
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Abraham Lincoln was a Great American President.
Now President Donald J. Trump MUST implement his rendition of “The Lincoln Era”; close the border; rescind rebel sanctuary cities; compassionately repatriate all illegal and unassimilable aliens since Jan. 1, 1863; issue mass temporary work permits with no path to citizenship; revoke birthright citizenship; make English the sole official language; commence a war to defeat the rebellion; impose martial law; suspend habeas corpus; “smash” rebel printing presses, networks, podcasts, and social media platforms; and imprison political opponents and rebel judges, all in order to save not the Union but the Nation, eradicate communism and the communist American welfare state, and place America squarely back on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, including absolute freedom, free enterprise, free industries, free markets, private property, and minimal taxation and regulation, alongside infinitesimal constitutional government.
We give government the power to take from people their property, their liberty or their life and we impose strong constitutional constraints on the use of that power that we call due process,
What Malloy seems to want – like nearly all left wing nuts is a systemt hat dispenses with due process.
Where people are punished or rewarded based on feelings, ro conformism to dogma.
Have none of these left wing nuts actually read anything about REAL socialism in practice ?
Are they unfamiliar with the NKP or Stalin or the gulags or the work of soljenitszen exposing the horrors of “peoples tribunals” in the USSR ?
Are they ignorant of the millions who starved in the “great leap forward” or those who were purged or brutally reducated by Mao in the cultural revolution ?
Or the “justice” that Che and Castro dished out with a bullet ?
Or the 2M mass murdered in Khmer Rouge re-education camps ?
Or on an on and on the instances where other left wing nuts did exactly as they wish to do now and how much bloodshed resulted ?
The death toll from Communism in the 20th century alone is 10 – 20 times that of Hitler – more if you grasp that Fascism is socialism.
What is really disturbing is how incredibly ignorant these purportedly highly educated people are.
“…courts…must…declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void.”
“…men…do…what their powers do not authorize, [and] what [their powers] forbid.”
“[A] limited Constitution … can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void. Without this, all the reservations of particular rights or privileges would amount to nothing … To deny this would be to affirm … that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.”
– Alexander Hamilton
What is really disturbing is how ignorant YOU are. Malloy is not alluding to anything of what you claim.
It’s a substack opinion.
In the tradition of human rights advocacy, “People’s Tribunals” (such as the historic Russell Tribunal) are symbolic, non-governmental forums used by activist groups to document human rights grievances and “speak truth to power” where formal legal systems are perceived to fail. They possess no official judicial, administrative, or state power to fire, expel, or legally punish anyone.
It’s not the crazy context you’re framing it in.
“What is really disturbing is how ignorant YOU are. Malloy is not alluding to anything of what you claim.”
And Hitler was not intending to exterminate jews in 1932.
“It’s a substack opinion.”
The “final solution” was an oppinion that was converted to actions – as was communism.
You seem to think that labeling something an opinion converts the hatred into something inoffensive.
“In the tradition of human rights advocacy, “People’s Tribunals” (such as the historic Russell Tribunal) are symbolic, non-governmental forums used by activist groups to document human rights grievances and “speak truth to power” where formal legal systems are perceived to fail.”
That is not what Malloy is talking about – he is Talking specifically about holding people accountable for LEGAL activities. That is not “speaking truth to power” – that is not holding government accountable.
“They possess no official judicial, administrative, or state power to fire, expel, or legally punish anyone.”
And yet that is precisely what Malloy is demanding to do.
“It’s not the crazy context you’re framing it in.”
One again you are ignorant of history.
Or Maya Angelou
When someone tells you who they are
Believe them
The first time.
I am holding my own “peoples tribunal” right here to hold Malloy accountable.
That was the gist of my post – except unlike Malloy himself or you.
My accusations regarding Malloy and YOU are real.
You have had your chance to show us all who you are – and you did, and we beleive you,
and now you are upset because after telling everyone who dangerous you are – we beleive you.
Honestly – in what world do you think that spewing racism and antisemitism is begnign.
The stuff your ranting – would fit right in with “the protocols of the elders of zion”
Are you clueless about the Waffen SS Divisions Hanschar, Skanderberg, and Kama ?
These were among the most brutal SS divisions – especially to Jews, and they were recruited in the mideast from the Muslim Brotherhood.
You rant that Trump is magically fascist – yet it is the fascists and the communists who exterminated jews.
Critisize Israel if you want – though it is really hard to do so without looking really stupid.
But your not stopping there your looking to purge Jews from academia.
And stupidly so as until today Jews have been reliably far left and reliably democrat.
And idiots like you and Malloy want to take sides with Hamas and the palestinians against Jews ?
What kind of idiot are you ?
You want to “hold the jews accountable” – for what ? Not quietly allowing themselves to be exterminated ?
There are about 20M jews in the entire world. That is slightly more than the total number of Palstinians.
There are twice as many palestinians in Jordan the west bank, and Gaza as jews in Israel.
Israel has free elections – one is going on right now. Palestinians in Israel can vote and hold office.
They have had a Woman as prime minister, and women serving in combat in the military since before I was born.
Israel ceased persecuting homosexuals in 1953 and fully legalized in 1988.
Palestinians still throw you off a roof if you are gay.
By everything that you claim to value Israel and Jews are ahead of the US and light years ahead of Palestinians.
And idiots like you take sides with the people who rape murder and burn over 1000 people at a music festival because they are jewish.
Israel is not perfect, the US is not perfect.
But it is Hamas and palestinians where you find the thugs rapists and murders
If you have examples of IDF soldiers raping palestinians – lets hear them. Burning civilians alive ?
Cutting off peoples heads and arms ? Specifically targeting civilians ?
How many jewish suicide bombers are there ?
There are myriads of people who grasp that Israel is not perfect. If perfection was required of US allies – we would have none. Some of the complaints Russia makes about Ukrainians are true – that does not transform Putin into a good guy and Ukraine into a genocidal state ?
All you are doing is demonstrating that you are lunatics.
That your ideology has so F$%Ked your brains that you are incapable of rational comparisons when the differences are stark.
Your like idiots that still think the universe revolves arround you.
And YES – you are dangerous.
Numerous police were killed in BLM riots. Billion in property damage and theft. Police stations, targets, and myriads of cars were burned – arson in abundance.
Yet you rant daily about J6 – because about 2000 people nearly all peaceful walked through the capital and demanded that congress refuse to certify a crooked election.
You are absolutely absurd and you are dangerous. And I am speaking out against you and yours – just as a few germans did against Hitler.
John Say, as I said it’s YOU who is ignorant. No amount of long running blather is going to change that.
You conflate anything with socialism to justify your twisted world view.
Your ranting over various subjects with zero relevance to each other is proof enough that you have no idea what you’re talking about. FYI Hitler was not a socialist. No historian agrees with you.
“as I said it’s YOU who is ignorant.”
Yes you demonstrate your own ignorance all the time.
Please using facts logic, reason demonstrate ANYTHING I have been incorrect about ? I am not perfect, there must be something.
Regardless, when someone does find an actual error in my remarks I correct them.
When have you ever corrected any of the myriads of errors you make all the time on pretty much everything ?
As I pointed out about – you have mischaracterized Malloy.
Even he would not likely accept your characterization of him.
You are trying to spin obvious hatred. To be clear there is a time and place for hatred, but when you do hate others you had better be clear about why and you had better be right.
“You conflate anything with socialism”
ROFL – first – ALL Forms of big goverment have most of the same flaws and the data over centuries and every country in the world supports that. The larger government is as a percent of GDP the lower the rate of growth is.
That is ALL forms of big govenrment.
I would separately note that ALL forms of socialism are just forms of big govenrment – the central premise of big government is that govenrment is better able to make decisions for us that we are for ourselves. That is also the central premise of socialism.
Beyond that – we could debate some definition of socialism.
But today THAT does not matter – those of you on the left identify YOURSELVES as socialists and sometimes even communists.
I do not need to defend calling most of these people socialists – they call THEMSELVES socialists.
Or are you trying to claim that Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Castro, Chavez, … were not socialists ?
Again – I take them at their word – just as I take Mamdani and the other members of the DSA
Just as I take Hitler, and the rest of the Nazis, and Musolini at their word
“Hitler was not a socialist. “
ROFL
The Nazi Party is the NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY
Go look at the Nazi platform. Look at what they Did – their policies. look at what they said of themselves time and time and time again.
Mussolini the founder of Fascism was a socialist – before and after creating fascism.
Mussolini defined Fascism as
“everything in the state.
nothing outside the state
nothing against the state.”
That is an excellent definition of socialism.
Please tell me what exactly separates Hitler from Mao or Stalin ? Both Murdered millions of people.
They had near identical policies.
In National socialism – fascism the state did not own the means of production – they just controlled them.
“No historian agrees with you.”
ROFL – for most of my life nearly all historians did agree with me.
Even today I can find many.
Actually many do – and Why would it not surprise me that modern academics all of whom are socialists would vigorously deny that national socialism was socialism
Hitler himself repeatedly called himself a socialist – a TRUE socialist.
Hitler distinguished Marxism and Bolshevism which he hated from National socialism as follows:
Real socialism is patriotic.
National socialism does not negate private property – I would note that ultimately even Marx had to accept that you could not make an economic system work without private property.
The Social Democracy that YOU claim is socialism has more respect for private property than the Nazis.
German national socialism was aimed at the clerisy – the mid to upper levels of the working class that were a significant political force in Germany. While the USSR focus class struggle on the laboring class, and Mao focused on the peasant class.
These distinctions were purely based on the demographics of the the countries involved – it was still all marxist “class struggle”.
Nazism is extremely clearly the “dictatorship of the proletariat” – Nazi Germany was merely a more affluent country than soviet Russia which was more affluent than China. The differences in standard of living between the proletariat in China, Russia and Germany do not alter the underlying ideology. China under Mao was far more marxist than Nazi Germany. China today under Xi is a dead ringer for Nazi Fascism.
Xi has pushed Chinese nationalism. A sense of entitlement that was thwarted by other nations – the west. China today is expansionist like Nazi Germany – with political rhetoric about being cramped and having the right to retake all its former colonies. China today – like Nazi Germany is totalitarian, it is a dictatorship. and it is militaristic. China today is incredibly racist. Almost 90% of Chinese are Han Chinese, but there are dozens of different ethnic minorities that are persecuted and even exterminated in china.
Please tell me how China today significantly different from Nazi Germany ?
did you know slavery was legal in china until the dreaded CCP outlawed it when they won the civil war in 1949?
since you liberterians pretend to be so educated in economics, ask yourself. what happens to an economy if it transitions away from the age old institution of slavery, overnight? how does the labor market adjust?
going to a command economy might make it worse, but the fact is, there’s a lot of complicated reasons people starved in china, and Diktotter and you anti-commie obsessives really oversimplify history
Did you know that slavery was legal in Africa when the African tribal leaders abducted particular Africans and sold them to Arab slave traders, who sold them to British shippers, who sold them to British planters in British colonies?
Did you know that slavery was legal in Africa when the African tribal leaders abducted particular Africans and sold them to Arab slave traders, who sold them to British shippers, who sold them to British planters in British colonies?
First and foremost though slavery has persisted for all of human existance – it has never been a truly viable economic system – or it would still exist large scale.
You asked how we transition overnight ? As we did everywhere slavery was ended.
The civil war ended slavery – what followed was not some explosions of wealth. But it was freedom,
The south remained poor. The elimination of slavery does not make an agricultural economy growing crops that destroy the land any more viable than before – or any less.
The UK and the US ended the slave trade in 1814. The UK ended slavery in UK territories in 1838 – over a million slaves were freed. Some o those places are very wealthy and have a high standard of living today.
Regardless the world did not collapse.
A top down command economy ended in Most of the territories of the former USSR overnight.
The result was not a sudden massive exlosion of wealth. But the economies survived improved and did far better than they could have under socialism.
Milei has not made argentina into libertopia – but it is doing better than it was – and more importantly the improvements are sustainable. Growth is up, the size o government is down, inflation is way down, poverty is down.
we are in the midst of similar though smaller scale transitions in the US.
Poverty is down, growth is up, working class wages are up, democrats rant about affordability – but outside of far left over educated wing nuts with useless degrees most americans – particularly the working class are better off than 2 years ago.
There are still problems to fix, But they are being worked on, and unlike when democrats had power they are slowly improving.
Who here thinks the Ukraine war will still be going on for the 2028 election ?
The Iran war ?
Who thinks that Cuban communism will still exist in 2028 ?
Despite the ranting Gaza is at peace and there is more hope that will last then ever before.
Hamas has been disarmed and Gulf nations are looking to invest billions in Gaza – but only to beuild a peaceful and prosperous gaza. It is possible that once again the Palestinians could screw the pooch, but less likely than ever before. Hezbolla is being destroyed by Isreal and Lebanon – and Lebanon is emerging from a lifetime as a failed state.
Europe is coming apart – and the US had absoutely nothing to do with that – the left did that to themselves.
It is deindustrializing and has problems that make those of the US look like blessings.
The US is reindustrializing. Unless we screw up the US will be the epicenter of AI. Probably a more massive improvement in standard of living than the industrial revolution – it will be disruptive. There will be bad effects.
Most of the moaning and groaning is true – in the short term atleast.
But the long run consequences are astronomical.
It is very hard for left wing nuts to understand but rising standard of living REQUIRES fewer people creating greater value. It requires disruption. It requires creative destruction. It requires jobs to be lost and new ones to be created.
Trump has removed 300K people fromt he federal govenrment – yet it continues to function – and private unemployment – including the former governent workers are now mostly productively employed.
That is huge alone.
Between self deportations and forced deportations almost 5M people not legally in the country have been removed. Yet employment has gone up, The economy is growing the stock market is rising, Apartments costs are dropping.
Slavery was abolished in China in 1910.
Chinese slavery was never chatel slavery like that of the african slave trade – it was more akin, more benign and less common that the land bondage that existed in Ireland while chatel slavery persisted in the US.
In china “slaves” were subordinate servants – not property. Further they were never large in number.
Not in 1910, not in 1949.
The great leap forward was in 1958 – not 1949. The great chinese famine – possibly the worst famine in world history started in 1959.
To the extent the history of communism is being oversimplified – its horrors are being downplayed.
Estimated deaths in the Russian gulags were 40-80M. approximately 4 times the total carnage of WWII on al sides.
Estimates of Deaths through starvation and purges in China are between 80-200M people during Maos lifetime.
The Khmer Rouge massacred 2M+ people – 1/3 of the population in a few years.
The french revolution – where the actual revolution was nearly bloodless while the socialist purgings that followed murdered more people than all casualties in the American revolution on all sides. The killing did not end under Napolean took power
Yes we over simplify the carnage of Communism. The reality is WORSE much much Worse.
The standard of living in China at the start of the 20th century was approximately the modern equivalent of $300/yr. The standard of living in China at Maos death in 1975 was in todays equivalent about 300/yr.
The standard of living in China when Xi took power in 2013 was 11K/yr. The standard of living in China 13 years later MIGHT be 12K/yr.
Top down economies have been tried many times – they do not work EVER ANYWHERE.
Even your purportedly nordic social democracies do NOT have top down economies – they have free markets with exhorbitant safetynets – while still bad economics that is not the same as a top down economy.
It is not an oversiplification to say that no form of top down economy has ever worked.
Even more bluntly – big governent DOES NOT WORK. Throughtout the entire OECD over 75 years we have found that every 10% of GDP that govenrment spends has reduced growth by 1%
People starved in China because top down economies do not work. It is that simple.
in 1958 China had a primarily agrarian economy and by 1959 people were straving by the millions.
China – with an agricultural economy was importing food.
After Maos death just turning a blind eye to free markets at the margins resulted in China EXPORTING food
Nobel winner Ronald Coase wrote an excellent post Mao economic history of China. It is also a very good and easy to read primer on economics.
“did you know slavery was legal in china until the dreaded CCP outlawed it when they won the civil war in 1949?”
That is a Big Lie.
Mao seized power in 1949. He was advised by communist Russia on how to create a Chinese gulag system — forced labor camps. That is country-wide slavery. Mao’s gulag enslaved tens of millions and killed millions of political dissidents and political “criminals.” They shipped some of their slaves to work in Siberia.
One thing to eliminate from colleges would be Critical Race and Ethnic Studies Departments as well as the farce of Social Justice degrees.
1,200 Jews were killed on Oct 7.
78,000 Gazans have been killed since 10-7-2023.
It is overkill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war
Typical idiocy. Israel is in an existential war for its survival. It never wages aggressive war, only defensive war. Want to live in peace, don’t attack Israel. Very, very simple, but too complicated for morons like yourself to comprehend.
Israel has a knack for creating its own enemies. Hezbollah was nothing till the IDF started treating the Lebanese border as if it didn’t exist, 40 years ago. Their incursions were a recruiting campaign for Hezbollah.
Then, Israel cultivated the Muslim Brotherhood as a counter balance to the PLO. Presto-changeo: Hamas.
Ever since Israelis left Gaza, it has been the world’s largest open air prison camp. Bibi used to speak of having to “mow the lawn” in Gaza every few years — 2000 died on Obama’s watch one summer. Diplomat John Kerry was bemused to learn COGAT was keeping such benign items as pasta and menstrual products out of the country. But such restrictions spurred Gazan entrepreneurs to tinnel into Egypt.
A particularly disheartening thing occurred when Gazans grew produce in glasshouses donated by an Australian philanthropist.
Despite being on the seacoat, Gaza has no port. And no airport, obviously. So wnen the produce was ripe, it was loaded into trucks to cross into Israel.
Except COGAT wouldn’t let the trucks cross. The produce rotted inside. Thus is why I can’t believe that Bibi is a Jew. Every Jew I know has compassion for their fellow man.
“Gaza has no port.”
@ Michaeldix Instead of building a port, Gazans built tunnels and missile-launching sites next to heavily populated infrastructure, so that reprisals would lead to many deaths. Until October 7, 2023, the Karem Sholom terminal was open, so the produce you worry about could pass. How come you didn’t know that?
Oops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Gaza
You need to correct your mistakes and get rid of your double standard.
What nonsense – the Muslim Brotherhood existed BEFORE Hitler – 10’s of thousands of Arabs fromt he Muslim brotherhood fought in the worst SS Units in Europe.
Hezbollah has existed and been a major power in Lebanon for much more than 40 years.
Post 1948 Israel and Lebanon left eachother alone – EXCEPT that Israel was periodically forced to destroy Hzbollah terorist camps in Lebanon as Hebollah conducted varrious terrorist raids on northern israel.
Periodically Israel had to go in push Hezbollah north and then they left.
Lebanon has not had a functional country specifically because of Hezbollah in my lifetime.
Aside from Hezbollah’s terrorism against Israel – within Lebanon they have murdered and terrorized all oposition particularly lebanese christians.
One of the reasons for hope at the moment is that Israle and the US have weakened Iran enough – and Hezbollah even more that Lebanon can likely handle them – if that occurs there will be peace between Israel and lebanon.
“Ever since Israelis left Gaza, it has been the world’s largest open air prison camp.”
ROFL
Israel is not preventing a single palestinian from leaving Gaza. The rest of the world is
Absolutely no one in the world wants palestinians. no contry will take them.
When the Israelis were in Gaza they had extremely successful vegetable farms.
The were exporting produce. The Israeli’s left everything intact when they left – Hamas destroyed it
Gaza is perfectly capable of feeding itself – yet it does not.
Gaza has more resources than most of israel. In th past it was a center of tourism, fishing farming and prosperity. some of the wealthiest palestinians were from Gaza. Under Hamas it has degenerated into poverty and lives on the charity of arab nations.
Israel did not destroy Gaza – the Gazan’s did.
Israel only limits Gazan’s ability to migrate or work in Israel. They are free to work in GAza, they are free to go anywhere else in the world that will take them.
Again no one wants them
They have disrupted every single country that has taken them.
No Gazan’s did not tunnel out of the country for pasta. They did so for weapons.
One of the Plans for Gaza was to setup refugee camps in the Sinia while GAza is rebuilt – Egypt said h311 no!
As part of the Camp David Accords Israel sought to give Gaza to Egypt – Egypt did not want Gaza – which they had governed from the 1948 war though to 1967
Israel has a knack for creating its own enemies. Hezbollah was nothing till the IDF started treating the Lebanese border as if it didn’t exist, 40 years ago. Their incursions were a recruiting campaign for Hezbollah.
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Hezbollah was founded by Iranian agents in 1983. At the time, Lebanon was in an anarchic state.
If the Arabs lay down their weapons there will be peace. If Israel lays down it’s weapons there will be a massacre.
Geee, then maybe Gaza shouldn’t have attacked Israel on 10/7/03. Ya think? Maybe none of those deaths would’ve happened if Gaza didn’t attack Israel.
I say “Gaza” rather than “Hamas” because the two are for all practical purposes synonymous. Gazans overwhelmingly supported the slaughter and mass rape of innocent men, women, and children, the burning of families alive, and the parading of Jewish women’s half-naked bodies around the Gaza strip, which threw them into spasms of ecstasy. Gazans purposely targeted civilians, whereas Israel goes out of its way to target only combatants. They are not always successful because HAMAS USES CIVILIANS AS HUMAN SHIELDS.
What is the right number?
The war would have been over on October 8 if Hamas had chosen to surrender.
They did not choose to surrender because they wanted as many civilian deaths as possible. They know who you are.
Logic, I know, is hard,
You might try getting your data from someplace other than the Hamas press office.
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If Hamas wanted a cease fire, they only had to bargain for one. Instead they made ridiculous demands, dragged out the negotiations and broke the 1st agreement they negotiated.
But the Jews were attacked while Palestinians and Muslims all over the world danced in the streets. The Gazan “victims” either were fighting the Israeli people or caught in the misdeeds of a Thug entity they either elected once upon a time or allowed to lead and dominate them to ruin.
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No one beleives those numbers – nor do they mater.
Terrorists harbored by Afghanistan murdered over 3000 americans 25 years ago. In response the US killed between conservatively 200,000 and 2Million people in Afghanistan and Iraq.
That is the consequence of acts of War.
Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor in 1941.
Over the next few years over 300,000 americans were killed – in the pacific and in europe.
6M Japanese died.
War is not fair, it is not supposed to be fair. Nor unfortunately is the burden of a war born by the leaders who start the war or even the soldiers who fight it. WWII had more than 10 times as many civilian deaths as military ones.
Too many Gazan’s died after Oct. 7 – but that is on Hamas not Israel. And it is on the Gazan’s themselves who brought Hamas to power and who could have abandoned Hamas to their just punishment by the Israelies at any time.
If the palestinians laid down their weapons unilaterally – there would be peace.
If the Israelis did so there would be genocide.
terrorists like bin laden who was trained by the CIA in afghanistan. was it blowback or was he still on the payroll? why were the israelis dancing around cheering when they saw the destruction of the twin towers? why wer hundeds of israeli “art students” expelled by the US in the months prior to 9/11? how is it that fbi was following mohammed atta around for months and yet lost him on that day? what was the role of saudi intelligence in the mess? who wired the wtc7 to collapse on its own footprint in 13 seconds? time to catch up on history john say. we may not have these answers but we have these questions!
terrorists like bin laden who was trained by the CIA in afghanistan.
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In your imagination only.
The last election in Gaza was held in 2006. Don’t blame Gazans for what Hamas did 17 years later.
Why not? Surveys show Gazan support for Hamas today. Just their infrastructure and schools prove that.
In response the US killed between conservatively 200,000 and 2Million people in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Both of these data points are fictional.
The Wikipedia number is junk.
But the number of Gazans does not matter AT ALL.
A nations that allows its citizens to be murdered ceases to exist.
The protection of citizens is CORE to the social contract.
It is entirely irrelevant how high the casualities among outsiders must be in order to secure the safety of citizens.
If you mass murder the citizens of a nation – they are going to turn on you, They will kill all of those who participated – even tacitly untill they are stated or until the murders capitulate.
MMinimizing casualties to those not directly complicit is wise, it is NOT an obligation. It is not Israelis obligation to sacrifice a single additional israeli to reduce the deaths of Gazans by 10,000.
If you do not want YOUR people killed – either you had better be strong enough to protect them from the holy wrath of a nation whose citizens you murdered. or wise enough not to murder the citizens of other countries.
There were 7000 Gazans killed in the decade leading up to Oct 7th. The attack on Israel was retaliatory.
The current attack by Israel is genocidal.
Why don’t you get an education and learn what the word genocide means.
No, it was not. Israel turned over Gaza unilaterally to Arab bosses in 2005. In the intervening years, the Arab bosses used Gaza as a base to attack nearby Jewish towns and kidnap people. So, you had periodic efforts by Israel to knock out their artillery pieces and blow up their tunnels.
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It’s not that difficult to avoid conflict with Israel. Jordan has managed it for nearly 60 years.
2500 Americans were killed on 12:7/41 and hundreds of thousands of Japanese were killed on 8/6/45. Care to comment?
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Considering the tenacity with which the Japanese held on to those little lumps of coral in the Pacific like Iwo Jima, and the death toll of our conquest of Okinawa, conquering the Japanese home islands would have been an epic bloodbath, with many more casualties than our a-bombs caused
Double standard?
If the Jews lose one war, they are gone. Israel tries to protect civilian lives, but that is made difficult when civilians are used as shields.
The Gazans attacked Israel and have been doing so since 2005, when Israel removed all its troops and Jews.
The Jews are productive, and with their wealth, they build bomb shelters to protect their citizens. What do the Gazans do? They build missile-launching sites next to schools, hospitals, etc., and tunnels for soldiers, not for women and children to hide in.
The Jews protect their young and even try as best they can to protect civilians in Gaza. Gaza is built around death, the killing of Jews and their own children.
What is a woman and a child to Hamas? Little more than a shield.
The opening act was slaughter of 1200 Israelis, mostly civilians, injuries to hundreds more and over 200 taken hostage. (The equivalent given its larger population would be 40,000 Americans killed and 10,000 hostages). As the Hamas instigators knew, it would precipitate a war and in any war, civilians die, especially when their military like Hamas purposely place their arms stockpiles and tunnels to protect their soldiers in residential areas. Every death in both the Oct. 7th attack and the war it precipitated is on Hamas, no one else. Every last Palestinian you bewail would be alive today if Hamas had not crossed that border to murder unarmed peaceful civilians – ironically the Jewish civilians most likely to trust Palestinians, living so close to their border.
Please note that instead of decrying Hamas and the destruction they caused, Palestinians continue to support the government they elected 18 years ago and its project expressed in its charter of Pyrrhic attacks on Israel.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/11/hamas-leader-leaked-civilian-deaths-necessary-israel-sinwar/
“In Rage and the Republic, I write about how academic and political figures are ignoring history as they pander to radical groups.”
Pander TO radical groups? They are part of these radical groups! 1930s Germany calling America and Europe.
That the guy was granted tenure is a passable argument for closing his department and discharging its faculty.
Maybe the American equivalent of “Zionism” was Manifest Destiny. There would not be a UC system if ti were not for that expansionist policy our nation had in the 19th century. This professor doesn’t like white spremacy, but if he were unbiased and academically curious, he might explore why the most prosperous civilizations on earth were all developed by white and Asian people, and he could create value in research to show other groups what attributes led to this success, instead of decrying these attributes as symbols of white supremacy. Why are we funding universiies that glorify losing strategies, rather than finding the best ways to succeed?
Were California sensibly governed, UC Merced would be transferred to the Cal State system, all post baccalaureate programs exceeding 60 credits in length would be discontinued and all shorter programs limited to occupational degrees with the only academic subject considered for such a program being computer science. Also, all undergraduate majors instituted prior to 2014 would be audited. In these programs, all of those awarded degrees from 1991 to the present would be identified and all of these who matriculated with board and achievement test scores below the 32d percentile of their entering class excluded from the assessment. Then you’d calculate the mean number of diplomas awarded this reduced set each year since 1991 or since the program was founded if it was founded at a later date. Any occupational major with mean annual awards of fewer than nine diplomas would be discontinued if it could be found at at least five other Cal State schools. Any academic major with a mean annual award of fewer than five degrees would also be discontinued if it could be found at at least five other Cal State schools. W/o regard to when they were founded or how many majors they typically had, all interdisciplinary majors other than environmental science, environmental studies, international relations, and gerontology would be discontinued. A supplementary review of post-baccalaureate programs would be done and all degree programs which issued diplomas to fewer than 29 persons per annum and all certificate programs which issued such to fewer than 19 persons per annum would be discontinued if a like program was present at at least five other Cal State schools. You might repeat the audit at all Cal State schools. When a program is terminated, faculty at that program are let go.
The UC schools were designed to educate the smartest Californians, while the Cal State system was designed to educate people who are schoolteacher-smart. The two Cal Polys split the difference.
The above is mine. S.meyer
Guy is a Nazi; next he will want faculty and students forced to wear yellow 6-pointed stars on their clothing. Why do we even have departments devoted to such nonsense as Critical Theory?
. . . Critical Race and Ethnic Studies with a specialty in “colonialism, war, white supremacy, and the critical study of Zionism.”
That one sentence fragment tells us clear as day that he’s a racist anti-science anti-reality self-hating Marxist nut job member of the leftist death cult currently gripping and trying to tear down Western Civilization.
“UC Professor: Let’s Convene “People’s Tribunals” for the “Dezionization” of Higher Education“
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“Higher Education” was “fundamentally transformed” by communists and their teachers/professors’ union apparatchik operatives into “Higher LEARING Centers” of parasitic communists long, long ago.
Gaza Children Morgue
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/gaza-children-morgue
The sacrifice their glorious leader was quoted thstcthe Gazans were obliged to make for the cause, prior to his doing so as well.
Why do they, whatever the —- they are in this town, allow the psychotic ham ass/Iraniac terrorists to run the place?
The parents are murderers and cowards. The deaths occur because of Hamas. Many of the pictures are staged. We have seen shots of many dead people who get up and walk away as soon as the cameramen are gone.
Meyer – true. Yet gullible haters like the above anonymoron still believe the terrorist lies.
Oct 7 murders
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-screens-harrowing-footage-of-hamas-attack-worldwide-to-get-message-across/
Holocaust – which the Muslim Brotherhood actively and gleefully participated in.
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/holocaust-in-pictures/