Officials in Livingston Parish, Louisiana are reviewing a video from a traffic stop by Deputy Chris Sturdivant that resulted in the broken neck of Adam Stogner, 42. Sturdivant believed that Stogner might be hiding drugs in his mouth when he wrestled him to the ground.
Stogner died from “severe coronary artery disease, an enlarged heart, and a fracture of the hyoid bone in his neck.”
The video begins with Sturdivant suspicious about what Stogner had in his hand:
Sturdivant: “What you got in your hand? “Give me your hand,”
Stogner: “I don’t have nothing in my hand, I swear to you.”
Sturdivant later believes that he saw the man put what was in his hand into his mouth.
The Department believes that the deputy acted appropriately despite the rapid escalation of force:
“He was appropriate in his actions. He followed departmental protocol in trying to arrest a subject who tried to resist,” Ard said. Only after two more deputies arrive on scene is Stogner completely cuffed. Keep in mind, the baggy is still in his mouth. It’s then that one of the deputies notices Stogner is having trouble breathing and calls for medical help. “Is he breathing?” one of the deputies asked. “I don’t know,” another answered.
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A broken neck for hiding some drugs…. yeah, that looks like an appropriate action to me too…
Here’s to Karma for cops.
And you think all of the idiot officers live in Texas, ya na na na nana.
I am unsure of exactly how much force must be used to break a neck but come on. if was in a baggy, was there really a need? Maybe it was some bad shit anyway. But they could have waited for it to pass.
These are the guys that need thier necks broken
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Wake up, America. It’s so much worse than many believe.
Hold these guys accountable. Though this kind of thing isn’t new, in the wake of 9-11, many in law enforcement seem to think that they can get away with anything.
Somebody needs to do a remake of the Gloria Gaynor song “I will survive”. They could use it as the new theme song for COPS.
The song should be aptly entitled “You will comply”.
So a blood test would not have been cost effective?
Dear Prof. and assorted regular friends,
Recently my family was visited by tragedy. Not in the hyperbolic sense, but in the very real sense of the unexpected death of a child. This little hobby requires a fair amount of passion. Right now, I just don’t have any so I’m not going to fake it. To the friends I’ve made here (no need to roll call, you know who you are), I just wanted to say thanks for the ride and keep fighting the good fight. There is no doubt that you will as I’ve found many of you to be people of intelligence, wit and good character. As long as the Prof. leaves the porch light on, I may wander back this way. For now, I must bid you adieu.
Buddha,
My deepest wishes for the happiness to return. I know nothing more that what I have been through and it ain’t always easy. But remember:
We fall Down and We get up
We walk proud and We talk tough
We got heart and We got nerve
Even If we are a bit disturbed
lyrics from: Rodney Atkins
Song:These Are My People
Album: If You’re Going Through Hell
Link: http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/atkins-rodney/these-are-my-people-17222.html
Dearest Buddha,
I am so sorry to hear about your family’s heartbreaking loss.
I wish I had the words to comfort you; just know my thoughts and prayers are with you and yours. This blog will not seem the same to me while you are away I hope you feel the love. XOXO…
BIL:
I am crushed to hear about your loss. Please accept my deepest condolences to you and your family. While I understand that you will need time on your own, we would all be deeply saddened if you were to leave our little family. We will all look forward to your return and keep you and your family in our thoughts and prayers.
Jonathan
I am sorry for your loss Buddha. You are an advocate for moderation and respect on this blog. My prayers are with you.
Buddha,
I’m so sorry to hear this. My sincerest condolences to you & your family. I’ve not been here long, but have come to appreciate your comments & wit. Take care.
Buddha,
I am so sorry. There are no words for such a loss. My heart goes out to you and your family. Please check back in here if you think it would help ease your sadness. Thank you for being a part of this blog. I also, will keep you and your family in my thoughts.
((((((Buddha)))))))
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Buddha ~ My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. I’m sorry for your loss. I’m new around here, but very much appreciate your take on things and your thoughtful insight. I too hope to see your comments here again from time to time. ~ George
BIL,
My condolences.
Dear Buddha,
Reading your post brought tears to my eyes and an emptiness to my gut. You have become a friend to me, even if only in cyberspace and I can’t possibly encompass the loss you must feel. A very close friend of mine lost a child some years ago and when I came to the funeral all I could do was hug him tightly, since any words from me would be meaningless compared to his loss. Please consider this to be a deep hug from a close friend and a wish that you can again find meaning again in your life.
Buddha,
No words up to the task. Hang in there.
Buddha,
I am so very sorry. Please keep us up to date, as you can. I cannot remotely fathom losing my little girl. It would be my end.
All my love and best wishes for you and yours!
B’Man
Its obvious that he had WMD in that baggie. They should have called in the drones.
BIL, I’m so sorry to hear of your loss, please accept my deepest condolences.
BIL – You have my sincere condolences. I look forward to your return.
Buddha,
I just read about your family’s loss. I am deeply sorry for you and your family. There is nothing like the loss of a child. We have had it in our family and in friends who have lost children to Leukemia and other ailments and one 3 year old who was hit by a car. Mike S. is correct when he said that there are no words to help in this kind of situation. Hang in there and stay close to the family. The only thing that may help in this situation is time and support from each other.
Budah,
some people come and go, some we shall never know
you’ve sown seeds here and we watched them grow
I’m sorry for your loss and so sorry to see you go
Bdaman
Budah we are in this world but we are not of this world. You will see the little one again in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Buddha:
I just read about your tragedy, and I completely understand your decision. I wish you a bright star as you navigate this tempest and fervently hope our paths may cross again. You have my thoughts and prayers. I echo JT’s sincere sentiments, and would be happy to converse with you on any level you find appropriate, and at any time. JT has my email address and contact information which he can share with you. Stay strong, my friend.
It is hard to judge someone on the field, from the safety behind the keyboards. People who do drugs can be very violent, unpredictable, and irrational. An officer’s life can be endangered in a second. People who do drugs, have these kind of things coming to them.
“Everything is only for a day, both that which remembers and that which is remembered…. Do not then consider life a thing
of any value. For look to the immensity of time behind thee, and to the time which is before thee, another boundless space. In this infinity then what is the difference between him who lives three days and him who lives three generations?”
“When thou wishest to delight thyself, think of the virtues of those who live with thee; for instance, the activity of one, and the modesty of another, and the liberality of a third, and some other good quality of a fourth. For nothing delights so much as the examples of the virtues, when they are exhibited in the morals of those who live with us and present themselves in abundance, as far as is possible. Wherefore we must keep them before us.”
–Marcus Aurelius, The Meditations, From Books 4 & 6
People who do drugs can be very violent, unpredictable, and irrational.People who do drugs can be very violent, unpredictable, and irrational.
It appears you just described the police officer to a “T”
“NPO: People who do drugs can be very violent, unpredictable, and irrational. An officer’s life can be endangered in a second.”
Nice generalisation…. Now switch around “People who do drugs” and “officers” and you may be on to something here.
I suppose NPO never had a drink in his whole life, may be good for him but please keep the silly puritanism to your own stupid self.
“Nobody is innocent, if you are on this planet, you are guilty, FU, next!” (the late George Carlin)
The druggie brought this upon himself. The autopsy says he had coronorary artery disease, an enlareged heart- these two are chronic conditions generally take a long time to develop. So he does some amphetamine, and in the struggle with a cop drops dead, big deal.
The druggie brought this upon himself. The autopsy says he had coronorary artery disease, an enlareged heart- these two are chronic conditions generally take a long time to develop. So he does some amphetamine, and in the struggle with a cop drops dead, big deal.
Really? What is the big deal here? I mean the fact that his damned neck was broken seems to have escaped your fine investigative abilities.
NPO, somehow I suspect that you have never encountered someone close to you with an addiction problem.
Lets say it were your child with this issue, would you PERSONALLY break his neck because he deserves it?
Sorry, but you are a fruitcake.
I suspect NPO is a police officer who general considers himself better than everyone else, and has no problem letting a few “druggies” die while he’s trying to arrest them…after all, they “have it coming” to them.
One wonders about NPO’s childhood, about his father and mother, what went on at home, the abuse, the drinking, etc… Now that mommy and daddy are dead, well, at least older, instead of being angry at them for those painful nights alone in his room crying, he has taken all that energy and, now, wants to hurt and harm those who are less fortunate, even those with a PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUE (much like NPO himself). What’s worse, in his sick mind, “they deserve it!”
What NPO doesn’t say is that he would really like to strangle mommy and daddy for what they did to him, but he can’t so he became a cop, and now he enjoys abusing other people in their place. It’s nice when the one you’re violently abusing has little power and little recourse. Big man.
When someone decides to struggle or fight, they are taking a chance. The officer is struggling with a druggie, on the side of the road ( mind you a dangerous spot itself), and now, he has to tackle him, and no telling what the suspect might do next. The druggie could have had a needle ( ever heard of needle stick, I wonder) , or other weapons, so before you judge, put yourselves for a minute in the officer’s place. I bet most people who talk behind the safety of their computers, never had to fight the real fight out there.
FYI,
I will not respond to non-contributory remarks, but I am not a cop. Before I judge, I try to understand their perspective.
I will not respond to non-contributory remarks, but I am not a cop. Before I judge, I try to understand their perspective.
Well that is obvious, NPO, in your previous posts before we started to take you to task.
I suppose that’s your idea of taking me to task?
I love good humor any time.
Buddah:
They say the man upstairs puts no more on us than we can handle,Having walked down that road that you are on many,many years ago,I know that feeling.
My condolences to you and your family and you all will be in my prayers and thoughts.
Bless you and I Know that I am not taking it for granted for I feel you are a friend.
I have followed this blog for some time now.
BIL has been enlightening/entertaining/intelligent and informative.
All my best to you sir.
BIL:
Very sorry to hear of this tragedy, please accept my condolences, even if you consider me a troll.
NPO:
I think your analysis comes from blinders being on. From a assessment of harm view, what could be gained from wrestling the man to the ground and breaking his neck? An enhanced criminal charge? The force was way over any harm allegedly being prevented, and was very likely to cause more harm.
Additionally, nobody should be forced to incriminate themselves, via the 5th Amendment. To force someone to do anything affirmative so that they can be put into further legal jeopardy is a constitutional violation.
Words fail to adequately express my gratitude for everyone’s kindness. Thank you all. I should also relay that your words meant a lot to the boy’s mother too. It has been tough around here, but things are moving forward. As the weeks move on and the pain fades, I’m sure I’ll be posting more regularly again. Day by day is how I am playing it at the moment. Today was a mostly good day.
It was also a good day when I stumbled upon the Salon here. I’ve been blessed with meeting some very fine people indeed.
I ‘m not one to believe in ever-flowing blessings, but I’m coming around after your post today. Welcome back.
I am very glad you checked in with us Buddha. My thoughts are with you and the rest of your family.
Thanks, mespo. Your offer to breach anonymity was much appreciated. I couldn’t stay away from my friends for long. They are the yellow sun to my kryptonite of Neocon fascism.
Buddha,
Good to hear from you. Hang in there.
Buddha:
Buddah.
Sorry to hear about your loss. Nothing anyone says can help ease the pain.
Over a period of 2 days less than a year between 2007/10/15 and 2008/10/13 I lost both my parents and my wife. the loss of my parents was bearable since they were aged 97 and 95 respectively and had good health up to the last few months and I can not say that life cheated them of anything, but my wife was only 43 and died after 8 months of anxiety and worry about ovarian cancer. I do not think I will ever get over her loss. One thing that distracts me for a time however is making sarcastic posts on blogs.
Buddah you may have lost what you see as your normal motivation for posting but rage and pain can serve as another motive, and at least it might distract you for a while and may help your normal motive to recover a bit.
CM and Lottakatz,
Your kind words carry the value of experience. As much as I thank you both for you friendship, I must also convey my most sincere condolences about your losses. It is somewhat easier to loose an older relative, especially if they lived a full life and dies as happy as one can. I miss my grandfather every day. But I didn’t feel his loss the way I feel the loss of T. I don’t have children of my own and at this rate I’m unlikely to, but of the children in the extended family a try to spend my “dad time” with them when I can.
T was my buddy. Smart as a whip and always first in line to help his mom. Loved animals and there wasn’t a mean bone in his body. His heart was so big it was astounding. But at a scant five years old . . . senseless is the only word that comes to mind. What could a five year old have possibly done to deserve this? Nothing, I know, and before Bob beats me to it, “Deserve ain’t got nothin’ to do with it.” It is just so wasteful and unjust and painful. I worry little about my pain though. I’m built of stern stuff. But his poor mother . . . that woman has had enough misery in her life without this. She’s had enough heartache for 10 lives and he was her beacon of joy. She’s so heartbroken it’s almost incomprehensible. I am both angered that she has had this sorrow inflicted upon her and amazed at her strength. I would trade 100 IQ points if I could make her happy right now. If I could do ANYTHING to help fill that void. If I could do anything to bring him back.
He had the sniffles and a cold or so we all thought at first. Nothing out of the ordinary. Kids do get sick. But Saturday you could tell he was down. Sunday night he said he wanted to see the doctor on Monday. He hated going to the doctor. But in he went like a brave little warrior.
He never came out.
It wasn’t the flu or a cold. It was a massive infection. The doctor’s said even if he’d been brought in on Friday that they still probably would have lost him.
The bit I’ve written here today has helped a bit, but there is still a hole in my heart I’m not sure will ever heal. It will become livable, but I don’t think it’s ever going away. Senseless deaths never leave a man.
Buddha,
Oh fat, maybe not so Jolly Green Avatar One. It is good to see your Avatar appear on Turley land. Your presence has been missed. Your wit has been been absent. Though the thoughts of your wit have not.
It appears that we have had a lot of post on a lot of things on this site that are in dire need of wit, as you sit, remember that everyones ideal is as invaluable as the next.
A loss is still a loss. I cannot express any words of assurance to anyone but I feel the mothers pain in the way that only I can feel. I know what it is like from a fathers perspective and that is enough said.
If the professor has time you too can ask for my email address and I gladly consent to the availability of the same.
R
“there is still a hole in my heart I’m not sure will ever heal. It will become livable, but I don’t think it’s ever going away.”
Buddha,
You made me tear up again because you attached meaning to your loss. Yes it will never go away and if you think about it you wouldn’t want it to, because T was your buddy and you carry him now. At best, as you say, it will become livable and that is the lot we mortals face. By talking about your loss you are participating in the human mourning process and beginning the healing part. The loss is never healed, but our mourning allows us to go on in our lives and still find meaning in living.
With Love,
Mike