There is a horrific Dutch story out this week. In the 1950s, a boy named Henk Heithuis came forward to allege abuse by priests. He was interviewed, put into a Catholic psychiatric facility, and then castrated to cure him of his homosexual tendencies.
The boy was sixteen years old and there are indications of 10 other such cases.
However, none of these cases were mentioned in a recent report on abuse by priests in the country. The so-called Deetman Committee set up by the Church says that they did not mention any of the cases because of “few leads for further research.”
The report is being criticized for this and other omissions. Notably, Vic Marijnen was the chairman of the children’s home where Henk Heithuis and dozens of other children were abused until 1959. He later became prime minister.
Source: Dutch News
You’ve got to be f€£~«ing kidding me right. I know, the defense could be that they were joking still checking them for possible candidates for priesthood….. I didn’t know that was the official stance of the church…. Just think how many people that could have been saved….
Sounds a bit like the Executive Order signed on Friday, setting up The Department of Doom.
The motto of The Department of Doom is “we will castrate you in order to save your nuts.”
My great-grandmother was forced to come to America – alone – as a 16 year old after she became pregnant by the village priest. But that was the mid 19th century. I’m sure such things could never happen now . . . .
These bastids’ll do anything to protect their franchise.
“Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest”
Diderot
The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for in this life.
I will immy look up Diderot, presumably during the Reign of Terror in France.
Long may it reign here too. Who’ll be first surrogate for the king?
Cheney would be my choice for priest.
At least the victims can feel free to come forward now, and there is plenty of understanding help available. Previously, victims often committed suicide or were institutionalized. The good old days were not really the good old days.
This is so disturbing that I don’t even want to comment more on it. Organized religion, no matter which one, is organized hypocrisy.
The Dutch are monsters!!!!
There are victims of our own government, and CIA can’t hide behind religion.
The facts and the media reports, truth and falsehood, are shown first. The theory is showned then.
It was CIA mercenaries who did the killings at 3 seperate villages outside Kandahar of 16 civilians, according to Afganistan parliament investigation on the spot. Slugs from different weapons were recovered.
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“Either way, from the evidence at hand there seems to be only one conclusion to come to, Staff Sgt. Robert Bales is innocent.”
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/03/19/kandahar-massacre-no-matter-how-much-the-msm-try-to-frame-him-staff-sgt-robert-bales-is-innocent/#comments
One issue here is justice or another form of justice, revenge: The persons who perpetrated this are probably dead. It the victim is alive he can sue the church or go outside the legal bounds and seek revenge. He simply adorns himself with a small name plate with the word Lord printed on it. Vengence is ming, sayeth the Lord is his justification. He then goes to some church which has a pedophilie in residene–and there are many– and castrates the guy at gunpoint. Stitch him up with a Rosary.
And, if you are a dog, you know where the best place for your dog pack to poop is on Saturday night when you guys are out rompin. Leave some fresh ones for the pedophiles and those who look up to them.
Just a dog talkin, dont mind me, I dont mind no people sometimes either.
I’d say this all goes to show that the church is more important than the people that is supposed to minister to. It is a truly a horrific story. What kind of monsters would do such a thing to young boys?
“What kind of monsters would do such a thing to young boys?”
Monsters who were members of an exalted club who had been getting away with the same sort of thing for centuries?
Monsters who were members of an exclusive club who claimed that they spoke for, and spoke with, the only God of the Universe, and, as absurd as that actually is, were believed to be speaking the truth by virtually everyone.
Oh yeah – and the seventies, don’t forget the atheist hippies in the seventies – they are to blame. ;(
Simply a series of outrageous injustices. It’s enough to render one speechless.
Gene H:
As he so often did, Christopher Hitchens said it best when commenting on the proclivity of religion to retreat from their tyranny following a drubbing just long enough to regroup and find the weak spot in society to usher in their return. Calling to mind Albert’s Camus’ masterful play, La Peste (“The Plague”), the noted atheist commented:
… Dr. Tarrou is thinking about how the people celebrating the plague seems [sic] to have gone. They’ve survived it—it was terrible, but people think it’s been banished. He says, but the rats are still down there in the sewers brooding, and the plague is still down there with them, and that plague will one day again send up its rats to die once more on the streets of a free city. (Transcript of the 8th Annual Daniel Pearl Memorial Lecture at UCLA (3/3/2010))
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The seemingly meek and mild theocrats would be back tomorrow with all of their pious savagery lit by their glowing pyres if we allow just one tiny breach in that wall Thomas Jefferson constructed in responding to the good churchmen of Danbury.
Jefferson said something else too, more as warning than observation:
And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure. (Letter to William Stephens Smith (13 November 1787)
He knew the rats are down there and always waiting, too.
bet it kept the other boys from talking
“MPs are now calling for a full parliamentary investigation into the abuse scandal because of concerns about the neutrality of the Deetman inquiry. MPs are due to question Deetman at a hearing next week.”
The above, from the Dutch News link in the article, is a healthy sign, I (as Gene alluded in his last posting) was just struck mute by this article. The dark ages were not so long ago in the Church’s thinking it would seem.
Disgusting case. I cannot imagine that felonious priests would tell a fib about their crimes!
ya’ll do realise this is the catholics we’re talking about here? the very same “religion” that used to pretty much make a booming business out of taking the young boys off the poorer village families hands for money, and promising the child will have a comfortable rest of his life, only to be made into a castrato and kept in the church choir for life. they cut off the lil boys balls so they would theoretically keep that voice forever. it worked sometimes, sometimes not, and often, the child died.
and ya’ll are surprised “they” castrated a few boys to “cure” them and keep them quiet? when not all that long ago it was common to do that exact thing to keep choir practice full?
i will never understand why people get so up in arms YEARS after the fact, about something that isnt really all that new and exciting. terrible sure, but not new.
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” oh, if only…..
I advocate the castration of priests at the throat!
What Messpo said.
What Zarathrusta said.
Shall we agree to each of us sending Messpo’s Thomas Jefferson quote to Obama via WH contact function.? Has anybody ever seen an SS badge?
Radical idea: Assyrian Christian Ortodox church has married priests (see story below).
If Catholic church REQUIRED SAME WITH CHILD PRODUCTIOn, it might help fix this problem.
PS Speaking with my Assyrist church friend about the need for boys as offsrping, she told of a village priest who after 9 girls did not give up.
He got his first boy as number ten, and no more kids then……shall we guess they had contraception available to use?
Religion strikes again.
Thank god I’m an atheist.
The Catholic church knows that religion is the greatest hoax ever pulled on mankind and because it’s all a farce and they don’t give a damn. Self-adoration, self-gratification & money, money, money is their goal. When the poor fools of the world who have been brainwashed by this bullshit finally throw their hands up & say enough…then the world will be at peace. I know that I will not see that in my lifetime but I refuse to participate in the mythology and superstition. The Catholic church & all other churches can kiss my a**.
Magginkat,
There is said to be written record from ca 400 AD, where a papal declaration said that “We’ve done very well with this Jesus legend…….”
SINCE DAY ONE THE VATICAN HAS BEEN PAGAN AND THIS PROVES THE FACT THEY WANT TO RULE THE WORLD AND EXTERMINATE THE PEOPLE CALLED THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL LOOK AT ALL THE HOLOCAUST CAUSED BY THEM THEY ARE NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN CHRISTIAN FOR YESHUAH NEVER CHOSE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS HIS INBETWEEN ON EARTH
THEY HAVE CAUSED MORE MASS MURDER THAN ANY ENTITY WHY WOULD MARTIN LUTHER OR MALACHI MARTIN DISS THEM
H0W ABOUT THE MURDER OF MOHAWK CHILDREN BY THEM A CHILD SEEN A NUN TOSS A LIVE BABY INTO A FURNACE OR HOW ABOUT THE TEN CHILDREN WHO LEFT WITH QUEEN ELIZABETH IN 1967 WHERE ARE THEY NOT HEARD FROM AND THEN WHO IS OBAMAS MASTER IT IS THE VATICAN PAGAN CHURCH OF LUCIFER
Dutch Roman Catholic Church Castrated Boys As ‘Treatment’ For Homosexuality
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/19/dutch-church-castrated-treatment-homosexuality_n_1365725.html
Excerpt:
Radio Netherlands Worldwide reports that the new information wasn’t included in the large Deetman Commission report published three months ago on sexual abuses in the church — and furthermore — that the commission received a complaint about the castrations last year, but claimed there was a “lack of sufficient leads” to warrant an investigation.
The reports also uncovered minutes of official meetings held in the 1950s, which revealed directors of the Catholic institutions deciding parents did not need to be involved in decisions — even with minors, Dutch News reports. They also proved government officials were present in meetings where the castrations were discussed.
Dutch Castration Scandal: How Journalists Broke the Story
Mar 22, 2012
Robert Chesal on how he and Joep Dohmen uncovered the Dutch castration scandal
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/22/dutch-castration-scandal-how-journalists-broke-the-story.html
Excerpt:
For fifty years, Cornelius Rogge tried to tell the world this story. “People thought I was crazy,” he says. It was a story about a man he once knew who had been sexually abused by a Roman Catholic brother—and who was then castrated, when he dared to report the crime.
Rogge tried to tell journalists about it, but no one would listen. In 2010, he wrote his story in a letter to Wim Deetman, chairman of the commission that investigated sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic church in the Netherlands. Still no action.
Then he contacted Joep Dohmen, a journalist from the Rotterdam-based newspaper NRC Handelsblad, the colleague who I worked with to break the story of Dutch church sex abuse back in 2010. Dohmen and I, working for our respective media but sharing information, uncovered a series of scandals in boarding schools and parishes that led hundreds of abuse victims to step forward and tell their story. Our work led the Dutch bishops to install a commission of inquiry that completed its work last December. When Rogge called Dohmen, that’s when things finally started to move.
Over the phone, Rogge told Dohmen how he had met Henk Heithuis when the young man arrived, extremely ill, at his mother Thea’s home in Amsterdam in 1957. He’d never forgotten the stories Henk told of sexual abuse he suffered in the care facilities where he grew up. Especially the story about abuse by a monk named Gregorius, the brother superior at Harreveld, the Roman Catholic boarding school where Henk lived from 1950 to 1953.
Henk said the monks there preyed on the boys,” Rogge told Dohmen. “When he was seventeen he became the brother superior’s plaything. Henk compared the place to a bordello. We could hardly believe our ears.”
Rogge, a 79-year-old sculptor living in a converted farmhouse near the Dutch city of Zutphen, showed me a stack of letters from the 1950s. Some were in his own hand; others were from his brother, their deceased mother, and their friend, Henk Heithuis. Rogge and his older brother Ysbrand had kept the letters because the story they documented was so astounding. And sitting at Rogge’s dining room table, the sheer madness of this story began to sink in. “If this is true,” I thought, “then the world is crazier than I imagined.”
In 1956, Henk, then 20-years-old and legally a minor, reported the clerical abuse to the police. Hearing about the abuse, the police treated him as if he were insane, bringing him to a Roman Catholic psychiatric hospital where he was involuntarily committed. People there told detectives Henk was “a homosexual, untrustworthy, a liar and mentally disturbed.”
One month later, at St. Josephs hospital in the southern Dutch town of Veghel, Henk was surgically castrated or “eugenized,” as the hospital records put it, using a term previously attributed to the Nazi program of systematically sterilizing the mentally and physically handicapped.