NBC Show Features NRA Lobbyist Shooting Elephant In Face And Then Celebrating The Kill

Given the story today about the poaching of elephants, this video on Reddit caught my eye. It part of a show called Under Wild Skies What is this shit? For some reason, NBC Sports Network has been airing an NRA-sponsored hunting show called Under Wild Skies, which apparently airs on NBC. This video shows a lobbyist named Tony Makris shooting an elephant in the face. I am surprised to see NBC airing the scene. It shows that, while one cannot swear on television or show certain types of intimate scenes, you can still shoot a elephant in the face. [WARNING The video contains graphic and disturbing images]

I am also confused why this is so impressive. The elephant is standing there and you shoot it at close quarters in the face with a powerful weapon. The elephant however does not die after two shots but lingers in pain before it is finally put down. The episode ends with celebration with what appears to be champagne.

The program identifies Makris as a lobbyist. Some stories identify him as an NRA lobbyist. Other stories describe the show as “sponsored by the NRA.

The episode is filmed in the Botswana wilderness where he is led to around 20 feet from an elephant. While the number of elephants continue to fall in the country, a ban on trophy hunting will not kick in until 2014. That leaves people like Makris rushing to kill elephants while they still can.

118 thoughts on “NBC Show Features NRA Lobbyist Shooting Elephant In Face And Then Celebrating The Kill

  1. It takes a big man, usually with a small penis, to think that trophy hunting is some test of manliness.

    If you aren’t going to eat it?

    Leave the creatures be.

    They serve other more important purposes in the web of life than slaking your primate bloodlust and ego.

  2. What Gene said!

    Further the short video seems very insensitive to””” legitimate hunting”””.

    Many will likely see this vid & be outraged by it & then come lunch/dinner they’ll go eat their battery raised chicken/pork/beef inhumanly raised on a Wallst Corporate farm.

  3. I wonder how much revenue an elephant hunt brings to the country and how many people are fed from one elephant?

    I would assume they shoot older elephants which allow the younger males to breed.

    All in all it seems beneficial on a number of levels. Of course the old guy would disagree.

    This is probably a hunt allowed for herd management or maybe this elephant was a bad actor.

  4. I know a couple of guys who hunt all over the world for big game. they may have litte p’s but they have big balls. Some of the stories are pretty wild.

    how many of you could face down a charging lion?

  5. Bron,

    Look at what the Commie/Nazi Traitors are up to today.

    That Globalist Banking type Trash wants Americans to become defenseless domesticated sheep for slaughter like England, North Korea, Mexico, etc…

    ** Senator Warns Obama Not to Implement UN Arms Treaty

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    Kerry to sign controversial treaty today

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet
    September 25, 2013

    U.S. Senator Bob Corker, R-Tenn., ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, has warned President Obama not to implement the controversial UN Arms Treaty, which John Kerry is likely to sign today, without congressional authorization.**

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/senator-warns-obama-not-to-implement-un-arms-treaty.html

  6. I’ve not time to weave the thread right now so I’m just making jump to focus On Topic right now.

    I would hope professor Turley & those in the upper levels of power are disguising how to form an interim govt to manage this transition we’ve entered into as the Traitors to the US become increasing exposed to the general population, police & military.

    The phrase Broken Arrow comes to mind as the piece below is but one spoke in the wheel.

  7. I agree with Gene. But even tho “Little Dick” as they call him, was doing something legal in that pirate territory, he needs to have his weenie cut off and stuffed in his lobbyist mouth. Shooting an elephant in the face! NRA- National Retard Ass’n.

  8. None of the experts know the exact date the globalist banks collapse again but I can assure you former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker understands clearly the disaster that is headed straight for us.

    This time will not be like the last one.

    **

    The Armageddon Looting Machine: The Looming Mass Destruction From Derivatives
    Posted: 09/18/2013 1:25 pm

    Increased regulation and low interest rates are driving lending from the regulated commercial banking system into the unregulated shadow banking system. The shadow banks, although free of government regulation, are propped up by a hidden government guarantee in the form of safe harbor status under the 2005 Bankruptcy Reform Act pushed through by Wall Street. The result is to create perverse incentives for the financial system to self-destruct.

    Five years after the financial collapse precipitated by the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy on September 15, 2008, the risk of another full-blown financial panic is still looming large, despite the Dodd-Frank legislation designed to contain it. As noted in a recent Reuters article, the risk has just moved into the shadows:

    [B]anks are pulling back their balance sheets from the fringes of the credit markets, with more and more risk being driven to unregulated lenders that comprise the $60 trillion “shadow-banking” sector.

    Increased regulation and low interest rates have made lending to homeowners and small businesses less attractive than before 2008. The easy subprime scams of yesteryear are no more. The void is being filled by the shadow banking system. Shadow banking comes in many forms, but the big money today is in repos and derivatives. The notional (or hypothetical) value of the derivatives market has been estimated to be as high as $1.2 quadrillion, or 20 times the GDP of all the countries of the world combined.

    According to Hervé Hannoun, Deputy General Manager of the Bank for International Settlements, investment banks as well as commercial banks may conduct much of their business in the shadow banking system (SBS), although most are not generally classed as SBS institutions themselves. At least one financial regulatory expert has said that regulated banking organizations are the largest shadow banks. **

    http://ellenbrown.com/2013/09/17/the-the-armageddon-looting-machine-the-looming-mass-destruction-from-derivatives/

  9. That’s enough for me for now.

    I’ll let the Commie/Nazi gungrabbers have the floor back as I’ve got to go club some baby seals for the NRA.
    :)

    Sarc Off!

  10. I was a patient many years ago at a pain clinic run by a psychiatrist/pain specialist. I had been advised that “rational suicide” was acceptable in my case (given the level of pain and I had tried all knkown treatments at that time). The doctor tried very hard to convince me that suicide was not the way to go no matter how bad the pain (too long a story why I did not choose that avenue).
    meanwhile the meeting room in the clinic had numerous animal heads up on the walls, souvenirs of a hunting club comprised of psychiatrists. To him, killing was okay, even animals that were just living their lives and would be nothing more then a head and a story. I do not know how he could reconcile his stance, that life is sacred at all costs, unless you are an animal.

  11. Dang,

    I see wordpress has eaten another of my post this morning. Oh well, I’ll just redo it as I hadn’t saved it correctly.

    None of the experts know the exact date of the next time the globalist banks fail, but I can assure you former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker understand clearly the danger this nation is in in regards to this piece below.

    It won’t be like the last time.

    **

    The Armageddon Looting Machine: The Looming Mass Destruction From Derivatives
    Posted: 09/18/2013 1:25 pm

    Increased regulation and low interest rates are driving lending from the regulated commercial banking system into the unregulated shadow banking system. The shadow banks, although free of government regulation, are propped up by a hidden government guarantee in the form of safe harbor status under the 2005 Bankruptcy Reform Act pushed through by Wall Street. The result is to create perverse incentives for the financial system to self-destruct.

    Five years after the financial collapse precipitated by the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy on September 15, 2008, the risk of another full-blown financial panic is still looming large, despite the Dodd-Frank legislation designed to contain it. As noted in a recent Reuters article, the risk has just moved into the shadows:

    [B]anks are pulling back their balance sheets from the fringes of the credit markets, with more and more risk being driven to unregulated lenders that comprise the $60 trillion “shadow-banking” sector.

    Increased regulation and low interest rates have made lending to homeowners and small businesses less attractive than before 2008. The easy subprime scams of yesteryear are no more. The void is being filled by the shadow banking system. Shadow banking comes in many forms, but the big money today is in repos and derivatives. The notional (or hypothetical) value of the derivatives market has been estimated to be as high as $1.2 quadrillion, or 20 times the GDP of all the countries of the world combined.

    According to Hervé Hannoun, Deputy General Manager of the Bank for International Settlements, investment banks as well as commercial banks may conduct much of their business in the shadow banking system (SBS), although most are not generally classed as SBS institutions themselves. At least one financial regulatory expert has said that regulated banking organizations are the largest shadow banks. **

  12. “how many of you could face down a charging lion?”

    That’s the wrong question, Bron.

    “How many of you would think it is necessary to ‘prove your manhood’ by purposefully putting yourself ‘at risk’ to kill an animal doing what only comes natural to it simply so you can claim to have big balls by killing it in a manifestly unfair contest?”

    If your buddies want to impress me with their testicular fortitude? Kill a lion like the Maasai of old did. Use a spear.

    Otherwise, you’re simply a coward pretending to be hot stuff in a contest that is really no contest at all.

  13. Gene H.
    1, September 25, 2013 at 11:12 am
    It takes a big man, usually with a small penis, to think that trophy hunting is some test of manliness.

    *****

    Little penis, undersized frontal lobes, shrunken conscience…

  14. I am not surprised at anything that NBC does any more. Do you know that chuck Todd has said that if a journalist hears a lie or knows that he is being told a lie he is not to correct it or even ask about it. A “journalist” in Mr. Todd’s view and that of NBC News is nothing more than a stenographer. David Gregory fits right in and of course it is a lot less work.

    Shorting elephants is the face , well its what people do so they show it. They don’t care! That is LEANING FORWARD!

  15. LeeJC,

    I can’t say all, but many Native American Tribes seemed to have rational view in respect to animals & harvesting for survival.

    They only use what they need.

    But the globalist banking trash hates self subsistence people as they can’t control or profit from us.

    That’s the real hidden agenda behind all the anti-2nd amd crap.

  16. Bron,

    Why not face down a charging lion with a sword and give the animal a fighting chance? I doubt Makris would feel so brave and manly in that type of situation. He’d probably pee his pants.

  17. Bron, you may think these guys have big ones, but in fact they have small minds. These are the destroyers of everything nature has to offer. If it was up to them, they would be proud to kill the last lion, tiger, or elephant and call it an achievement.

    Man is the cruelest animal.
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche

  18. OKY I don’t think anyone is anti 2nd amendment. They are for sensible gun regulation. This is not the wild west anymore or revolutionary times. Many of us feel that the amendment refers to militia. It is a legitimate debate and not crap but what a democracy is about, intelligent (and sometimes not so intelligent) debate.

    (I am not a fan of hunting but if you use what you shoot, eating the venison for example) then at least you have not killed for naught)

  19. 1 more time I’ll attempt to post that lost post:

    No expert can say when the next time the globalist banks fail, but I can assure you Ret. FRS chairman Pual Volcker understand very clearly the risk we face from this piece I’ll post next, separate this time.

    It won’t be like the last time.

  20. ***The Armageddon Looting Machine: The Looming Mass Destruction From Derivatives
    Posted: 09/18/2013 1:25 pm

    Increased regulation and low interest rates are driving lending from the regulated commercial banking system into the unregulated shadow banking system. The shadow banks, although free of government regulation, are propped up by a hidden government guarantee in the form of safe harbor status under the 2005 Bankruptcy Reform Act pushed through by Wall Street. The result is to create perverse incentives for the financial system to self-destruct.

    Five years after the financial collapse precipitated by the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy on September 15, 2008, the risk of another full-blown financial panic is still looming large, despite the Dodd-Frank legislation designed to contain it. As noted in a recent Reuters article, the risk has just moved into the shadows:

    [B]anks are pulling back their balance sheets from the fringes of the credit markets, with more and more risk being driven to unregulated lenders that comprise the $60 trillion “shadow-banking” sector.

    Increased regulation and low interest rates have made lending to homeowners and small businesses less attractive than before 2008. The easy subprime scams of yesteryear are no more. The void is being filled by the shadow banking system. Shadow banking comes in many forms, but the big money today is in repos and derivatives. The notional (or hypothetical) value of the derivatives market has been estimated to be as high as $1.2 quadrillion, or 20 times the GDP of all the countries of the world combined.

    According to Hervé Hannoun, Deputy General Manager of the Bank for International Settlements, investment banks as well as commercial banks may conduct much of their business in the shadow banking system (SBS), although most are not generally classed as SBS institutions themselves. At least one financial regulatory expert has said that regulated banking organizations are the largest shadow banks. ***

  21. The story does not say what happens to the carcass after they butcher it. From what I have read, they normally donate the meat to the local villagers that the hunters cannot use. There are lots of damn good reasons for shooting elephants too besides hunting for trophies. That they shot an elephant with only one tusk says it was not just for trophy hunting.

  22. **(I am not a fan of hunting but if you use what you shoot, eating the venison for example) then at least you have not killed for naught) **

    I do not like at all some of that type of so called sport hunting implied in the above video.

    I don’t see any Sport in it.

    And worst I hate Corporate battery farming of animals for meat.

    How many people understand where their food comes from & what’s in it?

    I’m fine with game management & the use of it for controlled hunting.

  23. Supposition, Randy.

    And there is no good reason to kill an elephant unless it is a rogue and killing people. They are not only migratory, they serve important functions in the ecosystem like creating fertilizer and clearing brush to create habitat for other animals and reduce fire risks in dry seasons.

  24. “It shows that, while one cannot swear on television or show certain types of intimate scenes, you can still shoot a elephant in the face.”

    Great minds think alike? Miley Cyrus was quoted as making a similar comment about the show Breaking Bad.

  25. “I’m fine with game management & the use of it for controlled hunting.”

    As am I, Oky, but that’s responsible stewardship.

  26. I didn’t look at the video. I already know about the NRA, and about killing relatively defenseless animals to prove manhood. If you have to prove it, it ain’t there. I can’t strangle the tough guy with the rifle, so no use getting angry.

    Killing a charging lion with a rifle, is somewhat akin to invading Iraq, then shooting insurgents in “self-defense.”

    Or killing an unarmed kid, whom you threatened, in “self-defense.”

    See what I did there? Tied our over-the-top belligerent “foreign policy” to our blood-lust “culture.”
    Wasn’t hard to do. They’re one-and-the-same. Civilized nations recognize the U.S.A. as a nation of homicidal maniacs.

    You think that’s funny? Look in the mirror.

  27. ** leejcaroll 1, September 25, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    OKY I don’t think anyone is anti 2nd amendment. They are for sensible gun regulation. This is not the wild west anymore or revolutionary times. Many of us feel that the amendment refers to militia. It is a legitimate debate and not crap but what a democracy is about, intelligent (and sometimes not so intelligent) debate. **

    I understand your position & can respectfully disagree with some of your points.

    There are plenty of DC polecats/Banker puppets that can’t wait to completely get rid of All of the “Bill of Rights” including the 2nd amd.

    IE: Obama, Kerry, Fienstein, etc. see the above post: Kerry to Sign Obama’s UN Gun Ban (whatever they called it their intent is clear to me)

    **This is not the wild west anymore or revolutionary times. **

    I’ve posted plenty of links here on this blog that disprove completely that point.

    Been to the Gun Free zone of Chiraq/Chicago lately?

    As far as the debate goes it finished for now about April 16, 2013 in Congress.

    Yet the DC polecats like Obama are continuing using this issue to attempt to hold together some sort of a coalition of supporters/voters as he & his buds political collapse from their own corruption.

    **They are for sensible gun regulation.**

    There are more “Sensible Gun Regs” on the books then are need already!

    But we are all entitled to keep our opinions as each of us see fit.

  28. Oky1,
    “**This is not the wild west anymore or revolutionary times. **

    I’ve posted plenty of links here on this blog that disprove completely that point.”

    Mmmm…no, you haven’t disproved that, completely, or otherwise.
    We murdered, starved, and germ-warfared most of the Native Americans. Slaughtered almost all the buffalo. The west ain’t very wild, no more. Maybe on a Saturday night.

    There was no intent to have a standing army, when the Constitution was written, hence the “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state” introductory clause (the one most everyone pretends doesn’t exist) to the 2nd amendment
    Now, due to our imperialism and paranoia, we have an enormous, bloated armed force, which completely renders “revolution” impotent.
    So much for the silly “intent of the founding fathers” discussion.

    You know, you could just talk about the fool shooting the elephant in the face, without deliberately stepping in the 2nd amendment cow-pie.
    Really, neither I or Obama are likely to come down the chimneys of every house in the U.S.A. on Xmas eve, and take all your guns.

    Please remove your boots before entering the house.

  29. I know the face shot mentioned might seem upsetting but shooting the elephant with a very powerful rifle (.577 Trex) there is usually going to put it down the easiest. The target area, as described in the video if it succeeds in hitting the brain generally produces instantaneous death. Shooting an animal of this size in the body protracts the suffering, even if the heart is taken out the animal can run for a while before collapsing and dying.

    I’m not making a judgement as to whether hunting is to be approved or not, I don’t hunt presently but have in the past and it is a way of life in many parts of the world.

  30. Bob K,

    I agree with some of what you wrote, like on the militia vs standing army.

    That piece I posted on this thread at the time stamp below I believe is well worth everyone’s time viewing it.

    Tosh Plumlee is known from his past testimony in front of the congressional Church hearings.

    He seems to have new info & details of how this country came to be in such a rotten state it’s in today.

    Oky1 1, September 25, 2013 at 11:49 am

  31. Good for him.

    Did he eat them?

    No?

    I’ll give him points for skill, but modern bows are just as lethal as guns, only harder to use. Get back to me when he uses a spear. Until then, he’s still just some jackass who thinks killing for sport in an unfair contest (albeit slightly less unfair than using a firearm) makes him a man.

  32. There are some things I do not want in my memory bank … not going to watch the video.

    Trophy hunting is bizarre. And I think the people who do it, and believe that it makes them special are also bizarre, and mental to boot. Serious ego issues. In a really bad way.

  33. Bron,

    As I said earlier, if you eat what you kill, that’s an exception. It’s not really “trophy hunting” even if you do get a trophy out of it. Analogous to getting a really good rack off a deer you eat versus killing a deer just for the rack.

  34. I have interviewed several snipers, mostly Marines, who were deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. To a man, they were big on deer hunting in the mountains, and never missed a deer season before they were deployed. Now they are home, most of them no longer hunt at all.

    I am not surprised.

  35. OS:

    I have read similar stories about World War II veterans.

    One man quit hunting because he had shot a goose but didnt kill it, he said the goose sat there waiting to die, just like some of his friends, not complaining, not crying, just waiting. That was it for him.

    I like to fish because you can catch them again.

    I wonder why someone doesnt do a tranquilizer hunt and incorporate science into it. Take your picture with your prey, weigh it, measure it, and check its vitals and then watch it stagger off. It would give new meaning to bagged and tagged.

    It would be like ET and you could even insert a tracking device.

  36. Last note here:
    I noticed that the NRA and NBC endorse Ivory Poaching.

    At just 0:25 seconds into the clip. “The 577 was made to shoot ivory.”
    POACHERS

    Up next: White Rhino hunting?

  37. Bron, I am glad to hear that you had mountain lion and not the other way around. We had lots of deer coming into town in Yreka, CA during the drought, and lots of folks thought it was so cute to have deer running around the streets. I had a lot different take, since most people forgot what deer are first and foremost, cougar food. They also forgot that kids, dogs, and slow people are a lot easier to catch and eat than deer.

    That is also why I am in favor of restoring cougar hunting in CA.

  38. Gene H I know of no hunters who simply kill game and just take the rack. Even if they do not eat it personally, they usually give the meat to others and none of it goes to waste. The bad old days of killing thousands of game birds, and animals for sport has long passed. It may still exist with some so called sportsmen, but I have not run into any of them.

  39. “It may still exist with some so called sportsmen, but I have not run into any of them.”

    I have, Randy.

    Several of them, in fact.

    And they usually hunt things that are “dangerous” and/or rare but not particularly edible.

  40. Gene H You move in more rarified circles than I do since I just associate with deer hunters, goose hunters who are out to put meat in the freezer. So far I haven’t run into big game hunters on the leases.

  41. Oky1,
    I love to read history, but I don’t do InfoWars, sorry.
    I can manufacture my own paranoid delusions and revisionist history..

  42. Geez, all those scurrilous remarks I made about the nation and the second amendment, were for naught.

    I can’t even get arrested in this town.

  43. I saw a picture one time on the wall of a gunshop I go into occasionally. It displayed a man all decked out in the gear and kneeling down to a decent sized Bison he bagged. Holding his rifle and a smile.

    Then in the background, there were other Bison grazing not even fifty or so feet away and farther away you could see a white fence that gave the me the impression these Bison were corraled.

    Shooting that Bison was about as sporting as hopping into a feed lot and shooting a cow. And then he thinks he’s going to have bragging rights for being Mr. Big Game Hunter. Doesn’t sit well with me. You have to respect an animal that is cunning and elusive; difficult to catch and if he evades you he is to be let go because he is worthy. But just walking up and killing a grazing semi-domesticated animal under the auspices of “hunting” it’s dishonourable and cowardly.

  44. Darren:

    have you ever eaten Bison? How do you think it gets to your table? It is herded into a pen, smacked in the head, hung up by its back legs, its throat is slit and then it is gutted and skinned.

  45. ARE:

    I agree, the hunters I know kill for the freezer or give the meat away. I dont hunt, I shot 2 deer once and that was enough for me. I dont care if other people hunt but I would rather flyfish with a small tippet than hunt with a small tip, if you know what I mean. At least based on Gene’s observations.

  46. Bron.

    Yes, I have eaten bison meat on several occasions and I don’t have any illusions that the slaughterhouse bison are treated much different than cows. My objection is as ARE points out in the comment above about these poseurs and the worst kind that just cut off the head or the skin / antlers and leave the entire carcas behind as a waste, then go home and bask in the glory of the trophy they have mounted on a wall.

  47. Me too. We have bison all the time at our house, but there is no “sport” in shooting animals in what is essentially a feed lot and claiming a trophy. Psychologically, that is little different from buying a military medal at a pawn shop and wearing it like it was earned.

    I have no problem with hunting for food or thinning the herd so there will be enough for the rest to eat, thus ensuring survival of the herd. Endangered animals are quite another proposition altogether.

  48. ARE/Darren/OS:

    Maybe the guy couldnt walk very well?

    But I agree that a healthy male should not be shooting ducks in a barrel. And one who cant walk should just buy the meat pre-packed.

  49. There is a story which is fading into oblivion which comes out of Chicago. Last July 27th some cops, who remain unidentified, went into a nursing home and shot to death a 95 year old WWII veteran who was refusing treatment for some illness. The suburb is Park Forest. This blog had a good article on it but there has been no follow up. We need to petition our government for redress of grievances here. We need to demand Eric Holder to prosecute the killers under the federal criminal civil rights acts. These astardBays are worse than the elephant killer here although he is a close second.

  50. ARE:

    Sitting in a tree stand isnt hunting either, it is waiting. What is the difference?

    The only difference is someone brings the animal to you instead of it wandering in front of you. Since animals dont have free will how is it any different?

  51. Some animals show measurable signs of self-awareness and decision making based on learning (such as elephants and dolphins). They make choices.

    So you are certain all animals don’t have free will?

    I’ll stipulate most don’t. They are simple creatures, all instinct and of low cognition. But not all of them are. That we don’t fully understand their abilities and/or limitations suggest withholding such a broad statement might be wise, Bron.

  52. Also, I used to live next to a guy in Dallas who was a big game hunter. He had been all over the world to kill things, most of which were inedible. He probably put some taxidermist’s kids through college. His house looked like a natural history museum exhibit gone wrong.

    And he wondered why he never had more than a date or two with women after he brought them to his house for the first time.

    He was a real charmer.

  53. Gene H:

    I dont know the answer to that. I think there may be a couple of larger mammals that are as you say. But I think it is a reasonable statement to make concerning deer and Bison.

  54. Did he have a little PP?

    One of the guys I know who hunts, hunts with his wife all over the world.

    That guy didnt find the right woman.

  55. Bron,
    If the hunter is healthy enough to shoot a T-rex .577, he is healthy enough to walk. I enjoy target shooting, but you couldn’t pay me enough to pop a cap with one of those monsters. I value my rotator cuffs and collarbones. The price of $23+ every time you pull the trigger ought to tell you something.

    Here is what it looks like to shoot one. This is at an indoor range somewhere in the middle east. The men in the video are apparently trained riflemen, but not this rifle.

  56. Bron,
    See if you can find someplace where you can shoot one, then get back to us on how it worked out.

    I looked at the .577 shots in the video. Actually I had already seen it. It is not true they didn’t have much trouble. It kicks like a mule. Your point was that maybe he was not in good enough shape to walk much. That is not a rifle to be shot by somebody in bad physical condition.

  57. The .577 in my view is strictly a dangerous game rifle and should only be used as such. It is expensive to shoot and you are looking at $150.00 or so in ammo just to sight it in, not to mention how much your shoulder is going to ache afterward. Seems too impractical for anything else in my view. BUt to each his own I guess.

  58. I have hesitated to comment on this article because the video was so disturbing to me that I was concerned that I could not be objective. I see no sport in this disgusting killing and this human being should be ashamed of himself.

  59. Darren Smith,

    RE:

    Darren Smith 1, September 25, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Look, I think of you as a cool SOB that doesn’t get the correct kind of direct recognition you should.

    Keep you head about yourself & warn your friends as I am. We are almost all at the end of the BS Crap.

    It’ll be a bit messy for 6 months/2 years but then we’re on the backside.

    Kept it tight!

  60. **rafflaw 1, September 26, 2013 at 12:27 am

    I have hesitated to comment on this article because the video was so disturbing to me that I was concerned that I could not be objective. I see no sport in this disgusting killing and this human being should be ashamed of himself. **

    rafflaw, ya it’s a weird world out their!!!

    You’ve enough help here between Mike S, OS, Gene & others to safely talk you down from the roof tops.

    Look, I’m a sick sheeet, I can’t ph things up, I’ve a job to fix Sheeet.

    If you fix your mess ourself, no worry, I’ve plenty of messes to attend to.

  61. Oky1,
    It furthers one to cross the great water.
    While the lion sleeps, the jackal farts.
    The lunatic is in the hall.
    Do you think that I creep in the night, and sleep in a phone booth?
    Why did Bodhidharma travel to Japan?
    Zombies rule Belgium.
    That’s a lot to get on a Tshirt. How about “I love pizza”?
    Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?

    Did I pass the test? Can I join?

  62. Bob K,

    The language is Gàidhlig, if you’re going to attempt speak it you’ll need to wonder most of Scotland, hitting every pub along the way until you’ve discovered which dialect that’s in use here.

    Now if you’re to use that sorry excuse for a drug, alcohol, always stay with the brand you started the evening with & drink plenty of water.

    And I hope that nerve damage from your back gets better soon, I hear it’s a real b*tch some days/evenings.
    :)

  63. ap,

    NRA Tried To Stifle Study Showing Gun Retailers Support Background Checks
    By Rebecca Leber
    September 27, 2013
    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/27/2690521/gun-dealers-background-checks/

    Excerpt:
    A new survey from a University of California-Davis professor shows that even a majority of gun sellers support background checks. Looking at 1,601 federally licensed gun dealers in 2011, Director of UC Davis Violence Prevention Research Program Garen Wintemute found that 55 percent support comprehensive background checks, despite the NRA’s position against it. Wintemute found high levels of support for denying guns to people convicted of assault and robbery, as well as those with alcohol abuse and serious mental illnesses.

    When the author began his survey in 2011, he says he received a warning from the National Rifle Association urging members not to participate. An NRA member himself, Wintemute showed Al Jazeera America the email sent, though it appears gun dealers did not heed the NRA’s warning:

    “If you are a federally licensed dealer in firearms, you may recently have received a survey questionnaire from gun control supporter Dr. Garen Wintemute, of the University of California, Davis.

    “Why is Dr. Wintemute sending the survey? Consider the source. Over the years, he has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from anti-gun organizations to conduct “studies” designed to promote gun control.”

  64. It’s amazing to me what a true friend of the people Thomas Jefferson, Madison really.

    Their advise is even more relevant in times like we find ourselves in today & their advise is to tell all the gungrabbing Commie Nazi Aholes to go straight to he’ll!

    I don’t know of a polite way of telling you people you are not taking my “Preamble to the Bill of Rights”, nor the 1st, not the 2nd & not so much as even a damn comma from any of my/our “Rights”

    BTW: I’m not a member of the NRA & have never been, but I do recommend people to go join GOA.

    http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/beauty-second-amendment-quotation

  65. Oky1,
    What is the “Preamble to the Bill of Rights”?

    Your correction of your omission contains a misspelling.

    I was in Scotland in 1967, and people pretty much understood me. You, on the other hand…

  66. TY Bob, I see it now.

    Y’now Bob, if professor Turley was any kind of host he’d provide me with a cute young gal to rub my leg to keep me inspired & edit my post, but since that isn’t the case all I’m left with is a stray Tom cat that wondered up about a year ago & he’s out laying by the pool right now drinking bee so no help there.
    :)

  67. Ok, it’s been a while & apparent Tonto & the lone ranger of wordpress are off tonight so I’ll piece meal it & string the post together.

    If the gun grabbers were really interested in stop most of the violence & crime they’d focus on where most all the crime & violence are coming from, the US Gov’t, sub groups within the CIA & other agencies & the gangster Banks & Insurance creeps of Wallst.

    They are current flanked from every direction & the only discussions left is the terms of their surrender of these traitors to the US of A.

    This link below is further collaborating evidence of their criminal operations/war crimes & crimes against humanity:

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/breaking-whistleblower-reveals-u-s-state-dept-ships-arms-directly-to-al-qaeda.html

  68. 1 of 3:

    Breaking: Whistleblower Reveals U.S. State Dept. Ships Arms Directly to al-Qaeda

    The murder of Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi was an organized hit to cover up direct arm deals

    Kit Daniels
    Prison Planet
    September 25, 2013

    A former CIA gun runner revealed that the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, was killed in the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi in order to cover up the U.S. State Department’s direct arm shipments to al-Qaeda.

    Discussion on Benghazi attack starts around the 37:00 mark.

    William Robert “Tosh” Plumlee started his career as a CIA contract pilot in the late 1950s, delivering guns and ammunition on behalf of the agency to Fidel Castro.

    Plumlee confirmed that such arm deals are still common today, with the State Dept. shipping arms to al-Qaeda via the CIA.

    During an interview with Alex Jones, Plumlee pointed out that Pat Smith, the mother of an information management officer also killed during the Benghazi attack, received little information from the Obama administration about her son’s murder.

    “I began to wonder ‘why won’t they tell her anything?’” He asked. “Then a contact of mine in the Middle East, a high-ranking NATO official, mentioned to me that he had reports that the ambassador [J. Christopher Stevens] had been complaining about the dispatches and cables that he had got from the State Department about the weapons being received and [Islamic] radicals armed, including Stinger missiles.”

    According to Plumlee, Steven was ordered to stand down after he asked the State Department what he should do about the American arm shipments to al-Qaeda.

    “The ambassador and his people had written a series of field reports and cable dispatches advising our State Department that the rebel factions had been armed with U.S. weapons,” he said. “Now my contention is this: if that is the case, why is that classified as a national security matter?”

  69. Yep, wordpress hates it, it just again eat the 1st one of 3.

    I’ll attempt the 2nd of 3..

    2 of 3:

    **Plumlee mentioned that Steven’s field notes have not been released by the State Department.

    These revelations suggest that after Stevens told the State Dept. that he did not want al-Qaeda receiving heat seeking missiles, he was killed in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi which was designed to take out witnesses to the arms transfer and to suppress Stevens’s reports.

    The Obama administration then blamed the attack entirely on Islamic protestors enraged by the film Innocence of Muslims while refusing to answer why U.S. special forces were ordered not to aid Stevens and others during the assault.

    The missiles in question, as well as the other weapons given to al-Qaeda, were transported to Libya by C-130s under the Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) program, which operates within the State Department.

    As explained by New York Times best-selling author and former journalist Jim Marrs, the DCS program oversees the shipment of U.S. weapons and training to countries around the world.

    Through its own internal investigations, the State Dept. admitted that firearms supplied by the DCS have ended up in the hands of foreign enemies.

    Tying it all together, Plumlee stated that the weapons given to al-Qaeda were “U.S. made weapons that came from the DCS program, illegally transported by C-130s” into countries such as Turkey and Jordan and were “dispatched from CIA safe houses to the Syrian rebels.” **

  70. Ok, let’s try 3 of 3:

    **As we have documented in the past, the Syrian rebels are predominantly al-Qaeda fighters who want to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad in order to install an Islamic state in Syria.

    If al-Qaeda controls Syria, other nations could easily take advantage of the ensuring chaos and Syria’s reduced sovereignty by extracting trillions of dollars in oil revenue from the country.

    The Syrian rebels led by the Jabhat al-Nusra Front, the direct offshoot of al-Qaeda in Iraq, were described as the “most effective fighting force in Syria” after filling the void left by the secular Free Syrian Army.

    Suffering from severe shortages in weapons and supplies, the Free Syrian Army began losing soldiers to the better armed and equipped al-Nusra Front.

    Now it is known why the al-Nusra Front, and al-Qaeda worldwide, never seem to lack arms: they are receiving weapon shipments directly from the State Dept.

    Related posts:

    State Dept. turns over Benghazi documents
    Confirmed: Benghazi was Cover-up of Arms Transfer to al-Qaeda
    Al Qaeda weapons expert: U.S. ambassador to Libya killed by lethal injection
    Justice Dept: Al-Qaeda Runs A Chemical Weapons Program
    State Dept. Email to White House at 6:07 PM on 9/11/12: ‘Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack’ **

  71. Ok, I’m back, let’s see what wordpresss didn’t like about 1 of 3, I’ll take the header out 1st:

    edited 1 of 3:

    Wait, I think I see the offend language…:

    **Breaking: Whistleblower Reveals U.S. State Dept. Ships Arms Directly to al-Qaeda

    The murder of Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi was an organized hit to cover up direct arm deals

    Kit Daniels
    Prison Planet
    September 25, 2013

    A former CIA gun runner revealed that the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, was killed in the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi in order to cover up the U.S. State Department’s direct arm shipments to al-Qaeda.

    Discussion on Benghazi attack starts around the 37:00 mark.

    William Robert “Tosh” Plumlee started his career as a CIA contract pilot in the late 1950s, delivering guns and ammunition on behalf of the agency to Fidel Castro.

    Plumlee confirmed that such arm deals are still common today, with the State Dept. shipping arms to al-Qaeda via the CIA.

    During an interview with Alex Jones, Plumlee pointed out that Pat Smith, the mother of an information management officer also killed during the Benghazi attack, received little information from the Obama administration about her son’s murder.

    “I began to wonder ‘why won’t they tell her anything?’” He asked. “Then a contact of mine in the Middle East, a high-ranking NATO official, mentioned to me that he had reports that the ambassador [J. Christopher Stevens] had been complaining about the dispatches and cables that he had got from the State Department about the weapons being received and [Islamic] radicals armed, including Stinger missiles.”

    According to Plumlee, Steven was ordered to stand down after he asked the State Department what he should do about the American arm shipments to al-Qaeda.

    “The ambassador and his people had written a series of field reports and cable dispatches advising our State Department that the rebel factions had been armed with U.S. weapons,” he said. “Now my contention is this: if that is the case, why is that classified as a ************ Gee n..
    …ational s….ecurity matter?”
    **

  72. LOL:)

    It choked again, Wow, these azzhole Traitors are working it.

    The reason I think it’s so funny is when I 1st posted the whole peice, all together, it was also 1st saved to a working file not online.

    So when wordpress killed it online it also deleted it from my offline file.

    But I had parts of it saved in another offline file so it didn’t get it all.

    Interesting to me & maybe you is this isn’t the 1st incident here or elsewhere.

    I suggest you mark your spots & save often & everywhere.

    Ya, the traitors are probable just paranoid as they know what they’ve done & been doing & the legal penalties for their actions.

  73. Ya you aholes, I see you woke up so are you also going to repair those damaged offline files & what about those other PCs from a few years ago, are you going to replace them to?

    IE: Sen. Oran Hatch…

    I hope you baztards have locks on all those back door holes from your Chinese made chips in your machines.

    I’m not your threat, I have Zero plans of Anything the least bit violent or criminal.

    It’s you, you’re your own worst enemy.

    Azz hats, cease & desist in your criminal actions, turn yourselves at your leisure while you’ve the time.

  74. Darren Smith, Gene H,
    :)

    I;m not trying to scare you guys or the general public, but, just imagine, you’re on a plane flying cross country/around the world. And I’m the IT person that has control of the software that keeps your azzes in the air.

    I make more typos then rafflaws makes farts/ Ya rafflaw, that was a illegal cheap shot, so sue me :) I’m joking raf, I’ll attempt to behave myself I swear.

    Anyway, let’s imagine I’m your IT person that can’t type without typos & I can’t get a hold of those baztards at the India help desk Again.

    Ya, scary as hell, you’d hope there was no truth in what I’m typing.

    How about a slow drive cross country in a pre computer car next guys? :)

  75. Rafflaw,

    I hope you see this.

    It is very late for me to be posting, I shouldn’t yet I feel I must.

    Look, the other evening you posted a comment that you couldn’t view the video of an elephant being needlessly headquartered.

    It set me off.

    I fully understand & apologize for my out burst.

    The reason for my out burst was during the day before your post I opened a link & there was a puppy, like one I know shot in the head , a dad, 7or 8 kids, 3 in the pickup at the time,, killed locally it’s seems over nothing more then a traffic violation, a distance business associate killed by what I heard from a friend was medical malpractice & least 5 or 10 like items. The same day!

    I can’t & no one can view bloody, tragic car wreaks day after day after day without going bat sheeete crazy.

    We Know This!!! No One should be pressed passed the limit!!!

    Look at the stats on the police, vets, emt, etc…

    Please, no 4 tours in Nam down on 36 N & Peoria, aka lil V’nam & the projects, thank you No.

    Anyway, nothing against you, I was out of control, for that I apologize for.

    Look we need to pull others out from those views & remember to do the same for ourselves.

    I’m attempting to ban myself from that crap right.

    G luck yourself.

  76. It would have been funny if a second elephant had become enraged and stomped him to death. As for the shot, it was a through-and-through. The bullet (hopefully) entered a second elephant, the republican party and killed some of its support.

    Meanwhile, elsewhere on the internet, the republiclowns are getting pissy because a comedian jokingly tweeted after the navy yard shooting, “There’s one place I wouldn’t mind seeing a mass shooting, and that’s at the offices of the NRA.” Compared to the open calls for violence that the teabaggers are calling for, that’s innocuous. The stabbing murder of a rapper in Greece and Breivik in Norway are exactly what the teabaggers want to happen in the US.

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