In a startling disclosure from an exchange at an East London mosque, Imam Abdul Makin and a leading Muslim lawyer have supported the killing and raping of non-Muslim, declaring all non-Muslims as guilty and subject to lethal abuse. As the videos show below, moderate Muslims have a considerable fight on their hands to rid their faith of these unhinged characters.
The disclosure occurred in a question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin — as reported at a site called Islam Watch here. He reportedly stated “Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet.” He then called in a legal judgment by saying “If you don’t believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain.”
That top Muslim lawyer in Britain is Anjem Choudary, who says “You are innocent if you are a Muslim. Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God.”
According to Choudary this means that a Muslim can do no wrong by a non-Muslim: “As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters,” Choudary said. “I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim.”
For moderate Muslims, such views are as anathema as they are to non-Muslims. Yet, extremists appear to hold control of such mosques and even countries, as shown in Saudi Arabia, here, and Afghanistan, here, and Iran, here.
What is interesting about the lawyer is his standing with the bar. He has an obvious right to free speech, but in the United States lawyers have been denied practicing licenses due to racist or hateful speech. This was the judgment against David Hale, a white supremacist, click here.
In this here, Choudary is shown making this obnoxious argument.
The tension between the first amendment and the responsibility of the bar are magnified in cases like Hale and Choudary. I still tend to favor the first amendment in such conflicts, but it remains a close question.
In the Islam bible, it states that all muslims should slay those who do not follow Allah. This is a statement made in the Islam bible, not by me.
Just FYI, Anjem Choudary is a well-known Islamist radical, and a long way from being any kind of authority in Islamic jurisprudence as far as most British Muslims are concerned. He’s a former acolyte of Omar Bakri Mohammed, and these days runs a small outfit of Islamist thugs.
All of this information is readily available to anyone with Google, so how Prof Turley got the idea that Anjem Choudary was any kind of top legal expert is sort of hard to fathom. “Because this other dude said so” isn’t really enough.
Hi, I just wanted to let everybody know that i am a proud muslim.
Islam will never give permission to rape or harm anybody.
Harm is only caused if its a situation of war but rape is not permitted in any situation.
people who say rape is allowed are biggest crooks in the community even if they call themselves muslims.
Islam is a peaceful religon and does not allow you to harm anybody.
The name Islam has been given a bad name due to some crooks that are not following what the holy book states but rather giving out their own thoughts and crap theories.
If you do want to know more about islam and what it teaches checkout sky channel 820 (peace TV) and i can guarantee you that
you will understand that islam is a peaceful religon and does not allow any thing that can harm others to muslim and non muslims.
we have also been taught to repect all other religons and not to say any thing bad about it
Every community has crooks but that does not make islam a bad religon.
thanks for reading
The next world war surely will be fighting all this muslim bastards living among us. Remember Huningtons “Clash of Civilizations”.
Be prepared – I am.
Idiots should never be given a stage.
Not even -or better still- especially not, when the idiot is an islamic lawyer.
We may all blog untill we are 99 years old, but it will never, ever, make a difference. They are not prepared to listen to reason, they are not prepared to think for themselves, they hate us, our society and our superior Western Culture and values.
The only thing they do not hate is our social security system and they are experts in abusing that.
So, we pay for those idiots. That should be enough. There is no obligation to listen to them when they speak.
I definitely feel that the first amendment trumps being denied access to the bar. It is best to let people speak, then we can better know where they stand (and keep a close eye out on them).
Eventually, anything can become a reason to deny a person who has hurt no one access to a career at law just because they have unaccepted attitudes or beliefs.
Since powerful political factions control access to the bar, it will be abused if speech is a measure of gaining it.
It is just the nature of mankind to be tyrannical with power.
We should not permit Muslims to immigrate to this country.
Ever.
Blah, Blah, Blah…Unless you are a Christian, do not pretend to speak for me or what I am taught-go to a church and find out for yourselves. And for those of you who call yourselves muslims, it is time to stand up against your co-religionists who speak of rape and murder and put a STOP TO IT. NO EXCUSES.
I quote one of my favorite authors, David Weber, who writes science-fiction books, often with a recurring theme of religious fanaticism.
“It is my belief that the sentence ‘The end justifies the means’ – that suppression, repression, and/or murder become somehow acceptable if committed in the name of a ’cause’ or belief which reduces individuals to expendable pawns – is the vilest of human poisons, and that terrorism, regardless of the terrorist’s ’cause’ is the ultimate act of dehumanization… That some human beings are capable of such atrocities is an inescapable lesson of history. That we cannot allow these acts to go unpunished or extend to those who commit them any shred of respect, whatever the ’cause’ which motivated them, is a lesson the civilized human community must teach itself.”
“I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim.”
Funny isnt it, that the so-called “hate” laws never catch up with these people, only with Christians preaching the love and forgiveness of and through Jesus Christ.
Susan, I’m afraid you’re igbnorant of much in holding that “religious fanaticism, no matter WHAT the particular faith, has only led to terrible disasters, such as terrorist campaigns against all who were not of that specific religion”. Your comment shows lack of discernment, because (unless I’m wrong)you would hold that people who are prepared to die for their christian convictions are among these “fanatics” of yours, and yet thoughout the ages we have seen christians martyred for their faith without returning violence – and indeed all the while praying for their persecutors. A modern example, and still alive today is pastor Richard Wurmbrand of Romania. Please, get a hold of his book, “tortured for Christ” and read it. It will change your whole outlook, and maybe your life.