Despite an international outcry over its medieval legal system, Iran has announced a real crowd pleaser: eight women and one man will be stoned to death for adultery. Iran applies Sharia law and will execute them in the name of Islamic justice.
There remain a few unstoned women who are fighting against such outrages. One is Shadi Sadr. Her colleague, Mohammad Mostafai represents one woman, Malak Qorbani, whom he insisted plead guilty to adultery even though she did not know the meaning of the charge. That would seem likely since the penalty is stoning.
Stoning remains the rage among Islamic countries who continue to mete out religious codes through their court systems, click here and here .
You want to defend that? Go ahead.
But don’t give me that “case by case” bullshit anymore. This is a “mindset”, of putting police on a pedastal above the average citzen and making them into some sort of unified national security force, that controls the masses with an iron fist.
Moms, Dads, kids, cripples, the blind.
Doesn’t matter.
Because if half a dozen 6 foot 245 musclebound pound kevlar clad men feel granny’s going a little off, down she goes.
Knee to chest.
Taser in the gut.
And down she goes.
Like a piece of garbage.
Do you realize we lock up more of our population, than any civilized nation on earth, including Russia and China?
We call ourselves free, yet in America you have a much better chance of going to prison, than you do in the Peoples Republic of China.
And its just growing, as police now lock people up for the most minor of infractions, and political targeting seems to be the thing.
Last week a little old lady was arrested for trespassing on public property, simply because the police, who side with the right most of the time in these matters, followed the orders of one of McCains goons and cited her. He couldn’t just confiscate her sign (which would have been bad enough) or walk her off the lot. He had to cite her, and drag her into the criminal justice system.
And this was someones grandma.
And she wasn’t doing a thing.
Not a goddamned thing.
Eric
1, July 22, 2008 at 1:08 am
Finding the road to Hell is easy. You’ll know you’re on it when you see a mosque.
And there you go.
There’s your new master race, as Eric makes my case.
First that was not the isn’t the only incident. We hear these stories now almost every other day and I mentioned others as well. You didn’t seem to be able to defend those. Or any of the ones plastering this blog for the past year. I remember recently the police ganging up on a 70 or 80 year old man at an airport, Boston I think, but somewhere in the NE, and tasering him right into a heart attack. The guy was like moses, and here these big, strong police sat there and tasered him essentially to death.
And do the other officers condemn it? Oh no. All I hear is what I’m hearing from you. Excuses. Oh…they were “just doing their job”.
“Being safe”.
God I never saw a country so hell bent on being safe that it wages war against its own citizens. Spying on them. Infiltrating their churches, christian or otherwise, labeling peace activists security threats, searching laptops without warrant at every airport in America, and copying their contents for storage by the federal govt (for anyone leaving the country), HR 6034, the Patriot Act, and since 911, an ever growing case history of unspeakable police abuses, like tasering a BLIND WOMAN, which happened this very day.
A F$##$ING BLIND WOMAN.
And thats just ONE incident. Just ONE.
This is literally, as far as I can tell, the end of our democracy.
The end of democracy as “I” knew it, any way, or at least its death throes.
I don’t know, maybe you grew in a different America than I did.
Finding the road to Hell is easy. You’ll know you’re on it when you see a mosque.
Bartlebee:
Before you consign every cop to hell for a shooting (As you impatiently state: “In the US, the police gun down an unarmed man in cold blood after rescuing him at sea,….”), you may want to read my updating comment from the other posting:
“A little update from the San Diego Union Tribune. It appears the late Mr. Hirschfield was an exotic dancer employed to entertain the passengers. Acting pensively and after ordering an alcoholic drink, he climbed over the rail and plunged into the sea. Curious are these words from the article:
“Harbor Police said the ship called to report of a man overboard at 11:10 p.m. A small rescue boat from the ship was sent to help Hirschfield, but he wouldn’t climb aboard.”
There appear to be witnesses to the scuffle over the officer’s gun and eventual shooting of the dancer. This looks to me like a case of “suicide by cop,” and I think the officers, both veterans, will likely be exonerated given the bizarre nature of the circumstances and the decedent’s apparent death wish.
Here’s the article:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080721-1907-bn21steven.ht”
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
Rafflaw wrote:
This is an extreme example of what can happen to the United States if we succumb to the radical religious right and their extremely narrow and un-Christian view of Christian morality.
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Rafflaw, I couldn’t agree more with this. Of course,this will be considered “christian bashing” by those who favor this sort of extreme punishment for either adultery or homosexuality. Non-Christians or religious unbelievers would be another target in a “christian” theocracy.
Statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them.
And thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.
Mark Twain
Chronicle of Young Satan
puzzling/Jill:
Really love the references to ancient Rome. Here’s a little pithy saying from Caligula (quoting another ancient Roman, Lucius Accius) expressing the culture of fear that rules tyrannical nations:
“Oderunt dum Metuant (“Let them hate, so long as they fear”)
puzzling,
I agree. These stories may be true and useful to both disgusting govts. but for different reasons. The use of the poor, despised and powerless for political purpose is always repulsive. Neither country is removed from the circus maximus.
Those drum beats to war definitely picked up today. We must keep alert and speak out.
Bartlebee’s last comment strikes at the core of the problem in my opinion: both Iran and the United States governments are using fear to gain compliance and silence from their citizens.
While Iran’s tactics may apparently insult our sensibilities more than the tasering of a blind cancer victim, both are barbaric, blunt instruments of government designed to suppress dissent and threaten those who would stand in the way of authority.
In Iran they’re getting ready to stone some people to death. Most probably innocent of any real crimes.
In the US, the police gun down an unarmed man in cold blood after rescuing him at sea, and in the same day beat and taser a blind woman.
😐
One persons hero is anothers terrorist.
Sorry for the typos.
“percussion section” and scratch one “hear” lol.
rafflaw
1, July 21, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Bartlebee,
I wouldn’t put it past the Republicans to push false stories about Iran to drum up support for harsh actions against them in the near future
Precisely.
And we know they’ve done it before.
It may be faint, and a little offbeat, and even coming from speakers we never knew we had, but I hear can clearly hear the percussion session for the war cry, warming up.
First job?
Rally the peoples hate.
Bartlebee,
I wouldn’t put it past the Republicans to push false stories about Iran to drum up support for harsh actions against them in the near future.
The really sad part of this, is even in ancient Judea, around the time of Christ, where stoning was considered just punishment for being caught in the act of adultery, it was often sentenced, but seldom employed. Even before Roman occupation with its moritorium on the death penalty, the Jews seldom turned to stoning as a method of punishment. Its a brutal, extremely painful and violent form of punishment, primitive and cruel.
Somethings up with these stories coming out like now. I strongly question the source of these stories, as well as their veracity.
Theres a reason we’re hearing stories like this right now.
Its stoning season already?
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Where has the year gone?
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Didn’t I see this story in the Kite Runner? When will the world, including the U.S., realize the danger that comes from a theocracy? This type of horrific death penalty should never be allowed. Especially for the alleged crime of adultery. This is an extreme example of what can happen to the United States if we succumb to the radical religious right and their extremely narrow and un-Christian view of Christian morality.
Hey dude, I’ve been stoned,like, literally every time I committed adultery.