A clip of Rick Warren from April 17, 2005 is making its way around the web on which the controversial preacher appears to call on the faithful to follow Jesus like Nazis. In the clip below, Warren cites the faith and commitment of young Nazis and suggests that Christians need to show the same passion. Warren was selected by Obama to give the Inauguration prayer for the nation.
The clip is from an event held at the Anaheim Angels sports stadium with thirty thousand Saddleback Church members. After nearly an hour sermon, Warren calls on his followers to show the same passion as shown by young Nazis in 1939 in the Munich Stadium when they used their bodies to spell out the words “Hitler, we are yours.” They then joined Hitler in a war that murdered millions and set the world on fire. Warren seemed to think that was the perfect image for his “Global P.E.A.C.E. Plan.”
In fairness to Warren, he did say that Hitler was evil and seemed to say that his followers took over the world do to their passion. Warren told the crowd: “moderate people get moderately nothing done.” The clip suggests that Christians need to show the same passion as those Nazis — though for a higher purpose than advancing the interests of the Führer.
Followers were exalted to do “whatever it takes” and Warren then introduced his ally Rwandan President Paul Kagame who would lead the first nation to embraced his P.E.A.C.E Plan. Kagame led Rwanda in its invasion of the Congo and his government was accused of helping Congolese warlord Laurent Nkunda, massacre civilians.
Warren gave his first PEACE prize to . . . you guessed it . . George Bush.
For the video and story, click here.
Mimi,
I have that decal on my car! I hope so too!!
I’m hoping a member of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Church will be present.
FFLEO,
I agree. My take though is that the problem with religious faith is not per se having it, but in the belief that it has all the answers. Whether or not one believes there is a creative force that affects the Universe is never the issue. To me the issue is the egotistical certainty, held by some, that human beings could possibly begin to understand what that creative force desires and that it is wishes are open to interpretation from scriptural sources, or direct messages from that force to certain privileged individuals. The motives of any force that can create the Cosmos is far beyond the interpretation of beings like ourselves. To put it another way, in my life I began to see that I finally had made a little progress on the long path to wisdom, when I came to realize how little I really knew.
Mike S said:
“Re: Rick Warren. His choice in my opinion was Barack Obama’s foirst major mistake. His quotes prove what a dangerous sociopath this man is and he should not have been given the recognition on a national stage.”
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Mike S,
Such decisions occur when people like Mr. Obama “believe” with their religious faith—similar to Mr. G.W. Bush—resulting in irrational actions, instead of them thinking rationally about the ill effects of allowing Mr. Warren to preach his religious bigotry at the inauguration.
As to the MSNBC obsessed trolls, while annoying in their proliferation, at least they make it easy to catch their drift quickly and scroll down to where the adults on this site are discussing interesting ideas, which we can tell from the trolls comments are way above their heads. After all these same trolls are the people who believed that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were competentieves, religious, and intelligent, rather than greed obsessed, amoral, thieves they are.
Re: Rick Warren. His choice in my opinion was Barack Obama’s foirst major mistake. His quotes prove what a dangerous sociopath this man is and he should not have been given the recognition on a national stage.
Warren is a monster, an absolute monster.
This troll is truly indicative of the authoritarian-follower mindset. There is no thinking whatsoever going on. It’s simply “copy-and-paste”. No thought or reasoning involved here. Find an article that seems to express what they wish they could articulate on their own, and copy-and-paste.
Wait a second … are you Monica Goodling?
Jesus, Jesus über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Fanatiker zusammenhält…
Rafflaw,
Perhaps Professor Turley could get a 1L-4L student to act as a moderator for extra credit. Really, all that is needed is the removal of topic-irrelevant back-to-back posts and unrelated long copy/pastes. Ad Hominem posts can simply be ignored, unless they are repetitive.
BIL, Good one!
Totalitarianism is afoot in this society. These are desperate times and strong men come to the fore in many corners. (I read about that in Nostradamus.)
seamus,
That’s dwarfs that hooked up Snow White. Trolls are the one’s who live under bridges, eat children and engage in a less than comprehensive plan of oral hygiene.
Former Fed,
I think Prof. Turley would probably like to delete some of these troll postings, but it would be hard for him to keep up with them. They seem to be multiplying.