English Police Accused of Waterboarding

300px-DSC05638The London Metropolitan Police has been accused of waterboarding suspects in the Enfield area of North London. There has been a shake-up but, as in the United States, no one has yet to be charged with the torture.

It is not quite as cute as bobbing bobbies. This is a case of torture. There are six officers involved in the allegations. The information came up in cases stemming from drug raids where four men and a women were arrested.

The United States has had such cases in the past, the most recent being a Texas sheriff and deputies who were prosecuted. For an earlier column, click here.

For the full story, click here.

22 thoughts on “English Police Accused of Waterboarding”

  1. Yitzak,
    Your comments reveal your true identity. You are a troll who does not let facts get in his/her way. If you believe in torture then you believe in an illegal and immoral act. The idea that we have laws against that conduct is irrelevant in your world. Of course, in your world, McCain won the election and George W. Bush is on the fastrack for being canonized. Maybe Yitzak should volunteer for a Freedom Bath.
    (Good one CEK.)

  2. I just hope nobody tried to get this on tape. It ought to be a crime to video-record British police officers.

  3. just got my grade from mr. turley. very happy about it. am a blog reader for life. he is a wise man.

  4. yitzak,

    To your question, I would consider reading about IRF (Immediate Reaction Force) teams used as a part of the systematic abuse at Guantanamo. These teams were originally authorized as “cell extraction” teams, similar to what you might have in a prison. Their role has been expanded to routinely terrorize and brutalize prisoners.




    A report prepared by British human rights lawyer Gareth Peirce, documents the alleged abuse of a Bahraini citizen, Jumah al Dousari by an IRF team…

    “The first man is meant to go in with a shield. On this occasion, the man with the shield threw the shield away, took his helmet off, when the door was unlocked ran in and did a knee drop onto Jumah’s back just between his shoulder blades with his full weight. He must have been about 240 pounds in weight. His name was Smith. He was a sergeant E-5. Once he had done that, the others came in and were punching and kicking Jumah. While they were doing that the female officer then came in and was kicking his stomach. Jumah had had an operation and had metal rods in his stomach clamped together in the operation.

    “The officer Smith was the MP sergeant who was punching him. He grabbed his head with one hand and with the other hand punched him repeatedly in the face. His nose was broken. He pushed his face, and he smashed it into the concrete floor. All of this should be on video. There was blood everywhere. When they took him out, they hosed the cell down and the water ran red with blood. We all saw it.”

  5. The typical American now has far more to fear from law enforcement than from terrorists.

    I see nothing to stop physically covert forms of torture from becoming an accepted part of law enforcement in the United States. The taser is just a waypoint on the way to the pharmacopoeia and waterboard.

  6. puzzling, “years of torture”? You mean torture as in not having high speed internet, not getting to pick your meal each night, and not getting to set the temperature of the air conditioner?

    Sheese. What a lamebrain you are.

  7. Jill,

    Would you plead guilty to end years of torture?

    I would.

    Or would I even have a choice?

  8. If by “terrorist lovers” you mean people who believe that our Constitution and abiding by the rule of law, no matter who is our enemy, is the moral strength and the very best of what this nation can be, then OK. If you mean people have the courage to choose justice instead of acting unlawfully I guess many people here are “terrorist lovers”. If you mean that you would like to act unlawfully because you feel it is “justified”, then I would say you are a person who has a great deal in common with terrorists.

  9. Muslim convert charged with murdering a United States soldier at a stateside military recruiting center says the killing isn’t murder because U.S. military action in the Middle East justified it.

    I am sure this terrorist already has a dozen liberal pro-bono attorneys at his side – probably one or two from here.


    June 9, 2009

    Abdulhakim Muhammad, the Muslim convert who murdered a soldier outside an Arkansas military recruiting center, placed a collect phone call to the Associated Press today to tell his story. Prison, apparently, isn’t what it used to be.

    What Muhammad had to say was mostly predictable–he thinks the killing was justified because it was done “for the sake of Allah.” Evidently he didn’t get the memo about how Islam is only interested in peace and inventing things like printing and compasses.

    What I want to point out, however, comes at the very end of the story. You may recall that Muhammad’s lawyer claimed he had become “radicalized” when he was imprisoned in Yemen and tortured by the authorities there. According to Muhammad, his lawyer just made that up:

    Last week, Hensley said his client, born Carlos Bledsoe, had been tortured and “radicalized” in a Yemeni prison after entering the country to teach English. He was held there for immigration violations, and Yemeni officials have denied mistreatment.
    “Those claims … are all lies,” Muhammad said Tuesday. “That never happened in Yemen. The officials dealt with me in a gentle way.”

    Al Qaeda members are taught to falsely allege they were tortured in captivity–claims that are usually lapped up by liberals.

    Perhaps defense lawyers have now concluded that “torture” is an all-purpose defense, to be asserted automatically like a plea of not guilty.



  12. CEK,

    In Re Freedom Baths

    Sir, I can pay no higher complement than to say I wished I’d have thought of it. Well done.

  13. Oh heck, I am for water sport of any kind. Wait, I need to re-think on that. No some water sports I do not care for. Water skiing, Hydroplaning, the Kinky kind but Kinky is ok with me, he’s running for Governor, kind and water boarding.

    The other water sport are ok, like diving, swimming, snorkeling, Scuba diving, spelunking in underwater caves. They are all good.

    Geeze and to think that we took the English King John at his word, that he would honor what the barons wanted and you know I do think that the thing known as the Magna Carta Libertatum, the great kingly compromise aka the contract is broken.

    Can it be fixed?

  14. Glenn Greenwald writes about Obama’s possilbe plan to take guilty pleas from Gitmo detainees who will be sentenced to the death penalty after they have pled guilty. (This information is either a genuine leak or a trial ballon by the administration to see if anyone bothers to protest such a heinous act.) It is theorized that having the guilty plea followed by an execution would work out “well” because it would avoid any information about the torture our detainees suffered from being made public during a trial. I notice a similar motive in this case:

    “Police said they found a large amount of cannabis and the suspects were charged with importation of a Class C drug. The case was abandoned four months later when the Crown Prosecution Service said it would not have been in the public interest to proceed. It is understood that the trial, by revealing the torture claims, would have compromised the criminal investigation into the six officers.”

    This kind of thing always spreads unless it is stopped from the very top, immediately and in no uncertain terms. This is one of the many reasons why we should hold independent investigations into torture, no exceptions. This policy is set at the top and ends, only when those who ordered it, stop tolerating or even encouraging/initating torture. It’s really that simple.


    Funny and on point!

  15. No surprises there. As a moral leader in the world, we have succeeded in legitimizing the illegitimate.

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