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Retired Major General Supports Litigation Over Obama’s Birth Status

225px-official_portrait_of_barack_obama53px-US_Army_O8_shoulderboard.svgThe controversy over President Barack Obama continues with an interesting twist: Maj. Gen. Carroll Dean Childers (ret.) and active U.S. Air Force reservist Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff are supporting the litigation. On July 8th, Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook filed the suit July 8th in federal court demanding conscientious objector status and a preliminary injunction based upon his claim that President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States. He argued that, since Obama cannot serve as president of the United States, he cannot order him to deploy as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.

What is curious is the decision by the military to suddenly revoke the deployment orders of Cook. That served to fuel the growing movement spreading this rumor. The government is now claiming that the lawsuit is “moot” since Cook doesn’t have to go to Afghanistan. Cook in turn has added a claim to this lawsuit that he was retaliated against for his lawsuit after he was terminated at Simtech Inc., a Department of Defense contractor.

The addition of a retired major general and active colonel will have more of a promotional and legal benefit for these litigants. It was an unfortunate decision to revoke these orders. The Administration should have fought the lawsuit on the merits rather than try to moot the matter. The optics are perfect for those alleging a grand conspiracy to conceal Obama’s birth certificate (which has been viewed as third parties) and hide his alleged foreign born status.

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1,202 thoughts on “Retired Major General Supports Litigation Over Obama’s Birth Status”

  1. bdaman,

    I mentioned Al Gore’s birthplace (which I mistakenly assumed was Tennessee). If you need to worry if someone is okay, I’d start a little closer to home (hint: look in a mirror). Do you read or watch the links you post? In the article about Cpt. Rhodes, the judge tells Orly that the burden of proof (that the president is unqualified) is on her – what does this mean? As I’m sure Vince could tell you, it means that in that court (and I suspect any other where the issue arises) Barack Obama is a natural born citizen until proven otherwise. As has been discussed here, Orly has no proof of her claim. Furthermore, it seems unlikely that she understands that she should have secured such proof BEFORE filing her case if she had any prayer of winning it. While I will admit that your persistence is impressive, don’t you see that your arguments have all been destroyed, the motives of the birthers (and you by association) have been laid bare, and the odds against one of these Kenyan birth certificates being recognized as valid by any court are astronomical. What I would like to know is why do you keep doing this?

  2. Mike in the court room today Judge Land had this exchange with Taitz.

    “Who has the burden of establishing that the president of the United States is not eligible to serve in his office?” Land asked Taitz.

    The judge pointed out that burden fell on Rhodes because she sought the restraining order to stop her deployment.

    Isn’t it that the Constitution says that it is the candidate’s responsibility to prove eligibility to hold the office – not the public to prove the candidate is not eligible.

  3. I see Birther posted the you tube of the National Press Club.

    Vince you used BDA is at it again. Please do not confuse me with birther, thats twice you’ve done that today. It may appear we are one and the same, but we are not.

  4. BIRTHER, as a technical matter, by filing an action a party submits himself to the jurisdiction of the court in which the action is filed. Therefore, he is subject to the orders of that court and is required to appear if ordered to do so unless a proper continuance motion is filed and ruled upon in advance.

    Also, the burden of proof keeps coming up in this thread. That burden remains with Ms. Taitz until she establishes a prima facie case, which means securing the admission of the birth certificate she claims to be authentic.

  5. Vince are you o.k. I’ve scanned the thread and don’t see this questioned anywhere

    Vince Treacy 1, September 14, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    For the record, Al Gore was born in D.C. where his father was in the Congress, not in Tennessee.

    Also you brought up the hospital stuff out of no where. I must be missing comments.

  6. Thats right, only the spokesperson from the HDH can see it and affirm the president is a natural born citizen. SHHH TOP SECRET not classified for public discussion.

  7. Vince if we are allowed to view the long form it would be irrefutable evidence to exactly which hospital he was born in. It will also tell us weight, length time of birth and attending physician. If the president would of done so long ago there wouldn’t be any questions.

  10. Vince claims;

    QUOTE -“So Rhodes unit was not due in Benning until Saturday. It is not surprising that she could not make a Friday hearing. According to the Army attorney, Rhodes never informed her supervisor. Taitz is the only source for the idea that Rhodes was barred from court. The credibility of Orly Taitz is at an all time low.

    So, readers, there was no credible evidence of a malign conspiracy to keep Rhodes out of court. Her unit was in TEXAS on the day scheduled for the hearing. She was not even in the jurisdiction of the Georgia federal court. She arrived Saturday. She may be in court Monday.” -UNQUOTE

    Well Vince, what do you say to a letter from Capt. Rhodes?

    1:20 into the video:

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-YrSOfgEgg&hl=en&fs=1&]

  14. “There is no record of Obama’s mother ever being a patient at either of the two hospitals that Obama or his sister claim to be his birthplace.”

    Vince,
    There is no record of Obama’s mother being a patient at either of the two hopsitals. If you want to refute that statement, try using something that supports you claim. Since I can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, actually doesn’t exist, the burden must be placed on the one that claims such records do exist.

    First it was Obama’s half-sister that got it wrong. Now, it;s the student that got it wrong. How does a student confuse Queens with Kapiolani? How would the student have even know of Kapiolani? -This was a 2004 interview. Obama’s own Senate Biography page stated that he was born at Queens.

    You just don’t stop making things up; do you?

    “Same with this stuff about who affirmed the birth. I recently reviewed a series of birth certificates and the record of an investigation. The hospital is listed, but there is no name of a physician or of any other witness affirming birth, in either the officially certified records issued by the government, or in the records reported by the investigator. There is no such requirement in the Constitution or in the law.”

    Over the last few months, I looked at over 500 birth certificates, and everyone of them has the signature of the person who affirmed the birth. Since the records that you are looking at are an anomaly, why don’t you post them? I’d be interested in seeing these BCs with no affirmation. A record of a hospital birth exists, but has no witness to that birth. I’d be interested in the details of how such could occur. Redact what you need to and upload them to scribd.com. We’ll be waiting.

  15. Where were these “birthers,” who claim to be the protectors of the constitution, when the Supreme Court violated the separation of powers doctrine at the highest level possible and, acting as an oligarchy of five, appointed a president? What would John Marshall call it …. oh yeah, TREASON TO THE CONSTITUTION.

    Yet they still don’t accept that States elect presidents and have no idea what to do about Hawaii certifying that Obama is a NBC.

    Pathetic

  16. For the record, Al Gore was born in D.C. where his father was in the Congress, not in Tennessee.

  17. At it again, bda: “There is no record of Obama’s mother ever being a patient at either of the two hospitals that Obama or his sister claim to be his birthplace.”

    Everyone, on another thread, bda claimed that Obama’s sister said that he was born at Queens hospital. He offered a source, the Rainbow newsletter, a high school paper, but THE ARTICLE NEVER QUOTED THE SISTER. The student reporter named the wrong hospital. Bda never responded to the correction.

    So, it is a neverending task. A factoid is floated. It is refuted after long research. Then it is remorselessly floated again. This just in: bda is still wrong. More at eleven.

    Same with this stuff about who affirmed the birth. I recently reviewed a series of birth certificates and the record of an investigation. The hospital is listed, but there is no name of a physician or of any other witness affirming birth, in either the officially certified records issued by the government, or in the records reported by the investigator. There is no such requirement in the Constitution or in the law.

    The birthers still float the story of the two hospitals. It is false. Obama, family, and the hospital have consistently said he was born at Kapi’olani Medical Center. There are two hospitals in Honolulu, both named after Queens, and they can be confused. A newsweb article got it wrong again last year, and the birthers went into orbit.

  19. The Senate Resolution has no legal force or effect. At best, it could only be used as defense for McCain in a fraud claim.

    If you read the comments made by Leahy and McCaskill, you’d find them laughable.

    Leahy seems to think that as long as your parents are U.S. Citizens, you can be born anywhere and be a “natural born citizen”.

    “Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy.

    Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, said;

    “My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen”.

    http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html

    And these are the same people responsible for running our country? Someone should ask both of them if they ever bothered to do any research.

    I doubt that Vince would agree with either of their statements.

  20. Without digging for the link the RNC filed legally eligible for MCcain in all 50 states but this may be because of Sen. Reso 511

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