The members of the Faithful Word Baptist Church have gathered to affirm their support for their pastor, Steven L. Anderson, who has called for the death of President Barack Obama and “melted like a snail.” Anderson went out of his way to reaffirm his desire to see Obama die.
A couple dozen members of the Faithful Word Baptist Church carried Bibles and rallied around their hate-filled preacher, who they insisted is a “caring human being.” One member appropriatedly wore a shirt reading “Hating is not a Crime.” I agree, though I doubt that he was stating a constitutional principle as much as a personal preference.
Anderson wants to spread God’s word by calling for the death of those with whom he disagrees. What is scary is not just his shaping his family but his religious flock.
Here i a transcript of his Jan. 18, 2009 sermon from talk2action:
“…in the prayer closet with David,
`Break their teeth, Oh God, in their mouths. Break out the great teeth of the young lions, Oh Lord, let them melt away as waters which run continually. When he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows, let them be as cut in pieces.’ [Psalm 58, KJV]
`As a snail which melteth’, Barack Obama, since you want to use your salt solution to kill babies in this country, Barack Obama, you’re going to REAP what you SOW because one day, Barack Obama, you’re going to be burning in HELL and you’re going to feel a burning sensation all over your SKIN – which was the same sensation felt by every baby that was aborted in his mother’s womb.
And David, praying, is saying, `As a snail which melteth.’ See, I’m very scriptural when I brought up about snails being salted. He said, `as a snail which melteth let every one of them pass away like the untimely birth of a woman.’ He’s saying `like an abortion,’ right ? Like a miscarriage. Because that’s what an untimely birth is. He’s saying, let Barack Obama perish like an abortion. Let Barack Obama perish like a miscarriage. – `As the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.’
Let me tell you something – somebody needs to abort Barack Obama. It’s true. Now, I’m not to do it. I’m not saying vigilanteism. I’m not saying that somebody should go kill. I’m saying there should be a government in this country that, you know, under God’s authority, that takes Barack Obama and aborts him. On television. For everybody to see in the whole world.
Did you hear me ?
Now, I’m not saying I’m going to do it. I’m not a vigilante. But I’m going to tell you something – if there was any justice in this country, if the judicial branch of this country meant ANYTHING they would take Barack Obama and all of his colleagues and take them and they would abort him. They would melt him like a snail. That’s what they – they’d break the teeth out of his head, my friends…
And you say, `oh, I can’t believe you’re threatening the president,’ I’m not saying I’m going to do it, I just wish God would do it. And he will do it, my friends. And I wish we had a government that would act on God’s behalf. Like the government is supposed to do. You know, the government is supposed to carry out God’s law – enforce God’s laws against murder, against stealing, against lying, against deceit, against adultery. That’s the purpose of human government.
And so I’d like to see Barack Obama melt like a snail. I’d like to see the teeth knocked right out of his head. I’d like to see him perish just like an abortion. That’s what David preached. That’s what he prayed to God.
Let’s read him one more time:
`As a snail which,’ — I think this is Barack Obama’s life verse. If you’re one of those people that doesn’t write in your Bible, fine. But if you like to make notes in your Bible, just put Barack Obama’s name next to Psalm 58:8. I think this is a great verse for him –
[Psalm 58:8-11]’As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.’
`Before your pots can feel the thorns, he shall take them away as with a whirlwind, both living, and in his wrath.’
`The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance:’ [Anderson ad-libs, `he shall wash his feet in the blood of Barack Obama.’ continues] I’m sorry, `he shall wash his feet in the wicked.’
`So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth.’
Now look – we could sit there and say you know… and we’re only talking about one thing that we don’t like about Barack Obama. I could name for you a hundred things that he’s wrong on. I could name for you a hundred… [unintelligible ] We’re just talking about one aspect of it – the abortion that he’s fighting for, the murder that he’s fighting for.
What about the fact that he’s turning it into a communist nation ? That he wants to redistribute the wealth, like Levi Mordachai – also known as Karl Marx ? And his Communist Manifesto – [He] wanted to redistribute the wealth. You know, you think I want taken the wealth that I go out and work by the sweat of my face and the sweat of my brow and give it to some lazy jerk in the ghetto, somewhere, who’s never gone to work in their life ?
I don’t care whether you like that or not, it’s wicked. God said to the man that works, `if a man will not work neither shall he eat.’ That’s what the Bible preaches. Why should I go out and work so that some fat slob in the ghetto can get fat off of my food stamps that I’m paying for and EBT – you know, [to audience], what, is it – EBT ? You know, `I want Domino’s Pizza’ – we’ve got a big sign, `We Accept EBT.’ You know what I mean ? And they probably deliver it on EBT. They don’t even have to leave the house, my friend, they’ll get the pizza delivered to them.
And, you pay for it. It’s wicked, it’s stealing. You say, `It’s not a moral issue.’ – Uh… last time I checked, stealing’s a moral issue. Take money out of my pocket and give it to somebody else – isn’t that in the Ten Commandments ? Oh, you know, you just care about these financial issues, gotta care about the moral issues… financial issues are moral issues my friend. Somebody takes money out of my bank account – it’s immoral. OK ? It’s wrong.
Now, let’s keep reading, let’s get back to the Bible here.
So many other things that we don’t like about Barack Obama. Does anybody… let’s have a little open forum here. Is there a man — and, only men speak in this church — is there a man here that can tell me something else that’s wicked about Barack Obama tonight ? Do you have some other policy that you think is wicked ?
[audience member] – Pro queer.
[Anderson] – Gay rights. Thank you, sir. All right, this is great. Gay rights. — interactive preaching with pastor Anderson — gay rights, right ? Promoting the Sodomites. Pushing not only that but a sodomite agenda in schools. Schools teaching sodomite curriculum. Teaching alternative lifestyles. See, your five-year olds, your six-year olds, you seven year olds… [you] say they don’t start that young.
Well you know what ? – You only have to drive two hours, my friend. Get in your car and drive two hours and you’ll be in California. And it’s by law being taught in elementary school in the earliest grades. Only drive two hours to get there !
What else ? What other wicked policies in Barack Obama’s policies besides promoting sodomites and pedophiles and perverts ? Besides murdering children ? Besides wealth redistribution and communist stealing of the property of hard working men and women – and to pay for lazy jerks to get rich off them and to sit around and, and – you say `nobody gets rich’ – oh yeah ? I grew up in South Sacramento California and people got rich off welfare. Because there will be people living in a house – a whole bunch of people would get together in a house, they’re all on Welfare, and this was back in the 1980’s, this was a big thing that was going on. Who’s ever heard of the `Home Invasion Robbery’ ? Has anybody ever heard of it ?
It’s when somebody jumps through the front window of the house, just busts in , runs in, you know – ransacks the house, steals everything and gets out of there with a bunch of guys. Gang violence – it’s what we’re talking about.
You know… and, this has nothing to do with race. I’m so sick and tired of people calling me a racist for being against Barack Obama. You know, I thought we were past that in this country. You know what I mean ? Let it go ! I love all people equally – red, yellow, black and white – they’re Christians inside – I’ve won more black people to the Lord, probably, than I’ve won white people to the Lord my friend. I love black people, I want to see them saved. I want to get them the Gospel. I have very close friends, right now, that are black.
One of my best friends is black. But, you know what ? I’m not going to sit there and dwell on it and cry about it. Let’s get over it. They’re perpetuating the hatred between races by bringing it up all the time. Oh WOW – you know, the first black president ! No he’s not – he’s white.
He’s just as white as he is black. He’s half black, half white. But, yet, he’s just BLACK, BLACK, BLACK. Why not say he’s white ? I mean, if he’s half black and half white, I’m going to say he’s white. That’s the half I want to chase ! You know ?
I’m calling him a white man. We have a white president coming in, my friend.
He’s WHITE !
Don’t tell me he’s black, he’s WHITE
His mom is WHITE. Her mom is WHITE ! Her dad is WHITE ! His parents are WHITE.
He’s a WHITE MAN !
Barack Obama is WHITE… DEAL with it !”
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What a Christian paying attention should do is not preach unless asked by the audience. It’s rude and it doesn’t comport with Jesus’ teachings. Jesus encouraged tolerance of those different than you. Churches then twisted his words to justify attacking those different than you. So next time you get the urge to preach at someone without being asked to?
Forgive them, turn the other cheek, shut the Hell up would be my first guess.
The salvation of the world isn’t YOUR job even by your mythology. That job is God’s as mercy is His to dispense has HE please, not you or indeed any human. It’s also each individual’s job to care for their soul and earn mercy, although that – like a lot in the Bible – contradicts the idea that God loves you. If He loves you salvation should be a given unless God is a hypocrite. But individual responsibility enters into the picture right out of the gate else otherwise we wouldn’t have free will. Free will is a gift from God after all. All have choice. I don’t know about you, but if I were a God, much less a man or THE God, I don’t think I’d like some random stranger telling me how to do my job when they are not my boss and it’s my choice on how to proceed – even if they claim to work for or know the boss. Would you like it if some nutbag came to your job and started telling you what to do because they read it an book somewhere and claim to be on speaking terms with your boss? Hardly. You’d do one of two things if you’re a rational person:
Ignore them or eject them. This is no different.
So you might want to change to Jesus’ tactics. You know, telling the Good News to the willing but leaving the rest of us heathens alone when we want to be left alone. That’s called “polite society” when you don’t butt into other people’s personal business like their souls or sex lives or book shelf or home life. But polite is a word missing from the evangelical lexicon. It has been from Go.
When you preach at the unwilling?
That usually works out well.
For creating division.
Christ was a carpenter. The essence of carpentry is joining, not dividing. When you tell others they are wrong or somehow bad, you are not joining. You are trying to guilt or intimidate compliance with how YOU, a human, interprets the will of a GOD. You create bad will, resentment and forced compliance. A forced virtue is no virtue at all.
hu·bris\ˈhyü-brəs\, n., Gr. – hybris: exaggerated pride or self-confidence.
The very definition of thinking a being as limited as a human is even capable of understanding a God much less a God’s motivation. And the last time I checked, pride was still a sin in most major religions. So think about how proud you are of YOUR God next time you start to preach at people and remember it’s a sin. Then do what Jesus would do: forgive, forget, and shut up.
GWLawSchoolMom, it you don’t like what I write, don’t read it!
Martin Gugino. Yes, God did say, If My people who are called by My Name, will humble themselves, etc. I believe that is speaking to everybody who has Ever heard the Name of Jesus. The Jew, Greek, bond of free, male or female. Through Abraham and David, Israel was called by God, the Nation of the Promise, the Coming of Messiah, the Seed promised to Abraham, according to Faith, and the Seed promised to David according the Flesh. However, (John-1-11) He came unto His Own, and His Own received Him not. (Romans-11-15-23) Because of disbelief, they were cut off.
Why didn’t they receive Jesus? (John-8-33-44) They answered Jesus, we be the seed of Abrahman, and were never in bondage to any man: how say Thou, You shall make us free? Satan used their conceit as Abraham’s seed to deceive them into disbelief, thereby they do not see their Great Need of Jesus that they might be saved, until this very day. Today’s Babylon Religion tells the Jews of unbelief, they are God’s Chosen People, giving them No Reason to seek their Messiah that they too might be saved. (Romans-11-23) They also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be Grafted in: for God is able to graft them in Again. Their only Hope!!! Woe unto False Religious Leaders!
(11Corin-4-3) If our Gospel is hid, it hid to them that are Lost: (4) In whom the god of this world hath Blinded the Minds of them which believe not, lest the Light of the Glorious Gospel of Christ, Who is the image of God, should Shine on them. God then called the Gentile.(Isaiah-49-1-7)He used His Chosen Jews to share the Gospel with the Gentile. Does that mean all Gentile’s are saved? No, because the Jews are the seed of Abraham are they all saved? No. Only through Christ Jesus can any man be saved. (Romans-11-19-25)God warned the Gentile, don’t be highminded but Fear, for if God spared not the natural branches, Take Heed lest He also spare not you.
(Jeremiah-4-1-7) The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentile is on his way; he is gone from his place to make your land desolate; and your cities shall be laid waste, without inhabititant. (8) For this gird you with sack-cloth, lament and howl: for the fierce anger of the Lord is not turned back from us. (11Thess-2-3-12)Wake up America!
Mike and Martin,
Actually, picking cherries to split hairs. I’m not going to provide the direct quote because the people who care will look it up, but the verse is Mark 12:30-31. I chose that one rather than the one in Lev. it references because we’re talking about what Jesus is reported to have said.
That’s my contributing to a theological argument for the year, I hope you all enjoyed it.
To be fair, Sassy was preaching at me. I’ve never been one to hold a begrudge somebody beating me to the punch, so thank you.
New & Improved!
Now with video stupidity . . .
Hair splitting to me.
sassy writes: Gyges, Jesus said, from within the heart of man, his mouth speaks. This man has nothing but hate within his heart, (1John-3-15) whosoever hates another is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has Eternal Life abiding in him. (16) Hereby perceive we the Love Of God, because He laid down His Life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. If this man was a servant of God, and believes Obama is an evil man, instead of praying for God to Kill him and sent him to Hell, he would be down of his kness day and night praying for Obama.
there may be people in your life who like being preached to. I do not.
are you able to engage in conversation without preaching? do try.
mohan writes: Andersen should be ignored to the maximum extent and SS or FBI should tackle him with very low profile (earthly response). Press should accept their professional responsibilities and should not magnify dog barkings in the name of freedom of speech. God, however, is the final judge. People must realize that “ALL AUTHORITY IS GIVEN BY GOD” including authority to our elected officials to perform according to their wisdom and political circumstances. I hope that some gay will kill Adndersen soon, I mean that’s how much they must be upset right now. Watch out false preacher. HATE & ANGER IS FALSE POWER.
while you are certainly welcome to your point of view and accompanying religious beliefs, please try to refrain from telling others what we “must” believe. it’s offensive. its is even more offensive to wish for a gay person to kill pastor anderson. also: typing in all caps is considered to be shouting.
mespo writes: JT prudently relies upon good speech to drown out stupid speech. Personally, I have been praying that the heavens rain down fire and brimstone on Rev. Anderson but no answer so far. I have faith however given the historical precedent against the priests of Ba’al in 1 Kings 38-40.
yeah. that’s a pretty optimistic point of view on the part of the Professor. I am not always able to rely on strategies like this but I don’t live anywhere near the ivory tower.
I find myself becoming more discouraged and at times are frightened in a way I have not experienced since the Cuban missile crisis.
Martin writes:s a hateful person aware of that emotion, or is it subconscious?
I think they know its hate… they just enjoy it and seek it out more than we do. at the end of the day hate is an emotion no better or worse than any other. its what an individual or group does with it that matters.
Martin Gugina, The Lord, not I Said, from within a man’s heart, his mouth speaks. God so loved the World, He gave His Only Son, that through Him the world might be saved, If any man is in Christ Jesus, instead of praying for God to kill anybody and sent them to Hell, they would be down of their faces before Holy God, night and day, praying for the Lord to save that person. Every time you open your mouth it reveals what’s in your heart! That carnal minded preacher talks like Religious Leader when Christ walked upon this earth, who cried out, Crucify Him!
Today’s Church is taught such as, through God’s Grace, He understands when we sin. A Lie out of Hell! When sinners came unto Jesus to confess their sins, Jesus warned them, SIN NO MORE, less a worse thing come upon you, (Hebrews-10-2-29) God’s Judgment! It would be better to have never known Him, then to have known Him and wilfully sin against Him. Grace is, the Power of His Spirit within us!
(Ephesians-3-16)Riches of His Glory!(Jude-24) Now unto Him that is Able to keep us from falling, and to Present us Faultless before the presence of His Glory with Exceeding Joy.
(Romans-6-1) What shall we say then? Shall we continue in Sin that Grace might abound? (2) GOD FORBID: How shall we, who are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Is God’s Grace within you? (Galatians-5-16) Walk in His Spirit and you do Not fulfill sinful desires of the flesh. Or, have you been deceived by antichrist? (Ephesians-2-2-3) the ‘spirit’ that now Works in children of disobedience, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and are by nature the children of Wrath, even as others?
(1John-3-5) We know that Jesus was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no Sin. (6) Whosoever abides in Him, Sins Not: whosoever sins, has not seen Him neither known Him. Take Heed:
(Matthew-7-21-23) Not all that say unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into Heaven, but he that does the Will of My Father which is in Heaven. God have Mercy on today’s Church, or no flesh will be saved. (11Thess-2-3-12)(11Peter-3-14-22)
To Christians who say that the land is sick:
“If my people who are called by my name
will humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”
Sassy, you say
Is this more than the fallen state of the world reflected in the fallen state of the church? Haven’t the people often thought to themselves Surely this is as bad as it can be. How long …
I am thinking of Christ’s statement “Many are called but few are chosen” just now; thinking it may have applied to his hearers in this way: many are called to be the chosen people, but how many are.
Can anybody say “incitement to violence?” How about accessory before the fact to murder? Dropping in the “now I’m not going to commit the murder myself” every other paragraph is in no way an exoneration of this animal. I thought that the FBI was required to investigate and, when necessary, prosecute all credible threats against the life of the President. What’s the problem? Are they too busy rounding up illegal aliens?
to Mike Spindell, you say
Actually, He didn’t say “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. He said “a new commandment I give you: Love one another as I have loved you”. Close, but can you see the difference?
To mespo727272, you say
Oh, he is? Is hate an emotion? I mean, can one feel it?
My take on hate speech is it is speech that stirs hate in the hearer.
“The Devil can cite Scripture for his purpose” — and they do.
It is interesting how evil religious fanatics can actually be. The so-called Pro Life crowd has a tendency to declare their desire for God to strike down the evil doctors, but claim that they actually believe in the writings of a peaceful Jesus. The good Benedictine Sisters that taught me Catechism would be appalled at the claims of this so-called man of God.
“To wish someone to be dead is not very Christian-like.”
Read above, wishing someone dead is quite Christian-like, based on my reading of the “Sacred Texts.”
“Gyges, Jesus said, from within the heart of man, his mouth speaks. This man has nothing but hate within his heart, (1John-3-15) whosoever hates another is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has Eternal Life abiding in him.”
Forget that spoilsport Mike S, Sassy, I like your style and love your interpretation. Let’s apply you rule to this rather grumpy curmudgeon’s take on things:
“I will sweep away everything in all your land,” says the LORD. “I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity,” says the LORD. “I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship. I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who used to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD’s guidance or seek my blessings.” (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
Like you, I agree the speaker here is filled with hate, and a murderer. Wonder why anyone follows his teachings?
Any resemblance between you and a true adherent of the Gospels is purely coincidental. Not only are you incapable of understanding Jesus, but you allow your racist hatred to shine through. Quote all the text you will, but being blind to the real message within ensures your ignorance. Jesus most important teaching was the “Golden Rule” and your comments show no understanding of it.
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