Hiram Monserrate attracted statewide attention in New York as one of the Democrats who defended “traditional marriage” and “family values” in recently voting down a bill that would have made same-sex marriage legal the state. His concept of family values was questioned after he was sentenced for assaulting his girlfriend Karla Giraldo. Monserrate slashed Giraldo’s face and dragged her through the lobby of his Queens apartment building. Good old family values from the Paleolithic Period.
Monserrate, an ex-Marine, was reportedly upset after he found another man’s business card in her purse. The glass broke against her face, cutting her near her left eye down to her skull and left a lasting scar.
He was originally charged with two felony counts and two misdemeanor counts of assault but acquitted him on the two felony assault charges. The evidence included a security video camera that showed Monserrate dragging Ms. Giraldo through the lobby of his apartment building and medical statements showing extensive bruises on her body.
He convicted on a single count of misdemeanor assault, which could carry a maximum of one year behind bars. But, as a first time offender, Queens Supreme Court Justice William Erlbaum gave Monserrate three years’ probation, 250 hours of community service and counseling
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It’s just plain wrong.
Fortunately, what you think Galub isn’t the law. Free speech is free speech and crimes are narrowly defined.
Discrimination, however, is against the law. It’s also ethically retrograde.
Don’t like it? Move to Saudi Arabia. They’ll be your bigoted theocratic dream . . . until they realize you are “different’ and kill you for it.
There is only one thing that merits intolerance and that’s intolerance. That neither of you can divorce your desire from reality sad for you because it means you are going through life half-blind at best. The flip side is your blind hatreds serve as a teaching point to show others how to avoid ignorance and unnecessary suffering.
Bdaman,
Once again, your ignorance is astounding.
Fisting? Is that what has your panties in a bunch?
What’s the next bit of human sexuality that you’d like to take on with your mighty intellect? Kissing? Dildos? Not using the missionary position?
Again: IRRELEVANT. What you rail against is just another facet of human sexuality that is practiced by heterosexuals and homosexuals alike.
That you don’t approve is your problem. Just like your disapproval of homosexuality is your problem. Your bigoted, simple minded problem.
Shifting bigotry is still bigotry and you still don’t get to arbitrate sexuality. Sexuality is Mother Nature’s job. And so far everything you’ve complained about EXCEPT pedophilia is endorsed by a healthy Mother Nature. She doesn’t like that because it impairs the new growth.
Keep grasping at straws though. Frank Zappa wrote a song for you. “Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch”. Album title too.
Squirm some more. It’s funny. But you are in way over your head if THAT is your objection.
This has nothing to do with the sexual orientation of Kevin Jennings.
It has EVERYTHING to do with what he thinks is appropriate to teach CHILDREN.
I don’t think 14 year-olds need to be taught about FISTING.
I don’t think 14 year-olds need to be taught the ramifications of SPITTING or SWALLOWING.
I don’t think children need to be shown drawings of men having anal sex and then telling them this is how you become a man.
None of those items to which I find objectionable have anything to do with Mr. Jennings sexual orientation. He could be a straight she, and I would express the same objections.
Woman: Question is: What’s fisting?
Man: A little known fact is that you don’t make a fist like this. When they do it, it’s like this. This is a lot easier than this. [laughter]
Woman: You work your way up to it… [unclear] one finger, two fingers, three fingers … Some people can take a hand, or they can’t take a hand.
It’s about tolerance? If Gay Straight Alliances are not about sex, why are the people who run Gay Straight Alliances telling students about fisting? What you did not see is the man leading the discussion positioning his hand and showing 14 year olds how to insert their entire hand into the rectum of their sex partner.
For God’s sake, this thread is becoming a nuisance for everyone else on the blog. Please break it up. Bdaman, we can do without the soft porn material on the blog. I have given you Nancy Grace to attack. What on Earth can be more fulfilling or easy than that?
I’ll take being a nuclear power any day over being bereft of logic and decency. And as far as postal goes, I do as the Prof asks as well as the regulars 99.9% of the time. Unlike you are capable of apparently. Unlike propaganda zombies I have something called self-control.
But you keep trying to steer this back where he doesn’t want the conversation going. I remember exactly what happened to the last person who pushed that with him. You are the fire and I am a mirror. That I have a bigger flame is just a problem for your fire envy.
All I have to really do is wait for you to burn yourself out, Lil’ Match.
But instead, I’ll just keep telling people there is a fire and cutting off your oxygen with facts like Dr. Kerek’s that trump your politically motivated smear against homosexuals. Because I can.
So unless you have some FACTS directly linking homosexuality with pedophilia (and I mean a scientific study by a reputable group, not some Regents crap), get back to your hamster wheel of bigotry and hatred. Squeak squeak squeak, bddamouse.
Then why are you attributing a crime to a man simply because of his sexual orientation? That is what badloser is doing. In backing him, you do the same thing. You say you know the nature of pedophilia yet your actions belie that point.
Like a said, your need to rethink this. You’re not being overtly bigoted, Byron, but you’re letting your prejudice obscure what’s wrong with bdaweenie’s assertions. It may not even be intentional or conscious but that is what you are doing.
Not convicted of a crime. Not a pedophile. It’s that simple.
Absent a conviction of a crime, the man’s sexual orientation is irrelevant to his job performance. You are falsely conflating his sexual preference into some kind of endorsement of pedophilia by siding on the perception of ignorance instead of the reality of the situation.
If he were a convicted pedophile, I’d be calling for his head on stick and you know this. But the bottom line is you and badman both just don’t want him to have the job because of his orientation. You’ve given no other substantive reasons.
Unless you’d like if someone said you should be allowed to be an engineer because you like women. Because that’s what you are doing to Nelson. Telling him he can’t be an educator because he’s gay.
Discrimination is discrimination, Byron. That your motive is to protect kids is beside the point when you are factually incorrect in your correlations. Wrong is wrong. And discrimination is as wrong as pedophilia. You cannot assuage one crime by committing another: two wrongs do not make a right.
I want you to think about what if you daughter turns out to be a lesbian if you’d appreciate someone telling her she couldn’t follow her career choice because the PRESUMPTION is that homosexuals are more capable of pedophilia when the evidence shows that is clearly not the case. That IS the presumption bdabigot is making consciously.
I’m thinking that your girl being treated that way would really piss you off knowing how much you love her.
The Prof knows I have nuclear weapons
He knows you go postal too. Not a good combination.
if the School Czar was a right wing republican capitalist, free market, christian, and the 15 year old had had sex with a 30 year old woman, I would be calling for his/her resignation or at least saying they were wrong.
This has nothing to do with homosexuals and I did not say it was in any of my posts.
“HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT PEDOPHILIA. No matter what your wishful thinking.”
I never suggested it was nor is it my wishful thinking. I am well aware of the literature and believe, from what I have read, that pedophilia is a category of human sexuality unto itself.
Gyges,
You may correct in your analysis. W is suspect too any time the RCC seems to be a driver.
And I will also stipulate that when someone is acting like a hateful bigot, it’s not personal to call them on it, but indicative of their error(s) and relevant to their veracity.
I will continue to do so regarding your bigotry. I’ll just be nicer about it. As he requested.
But you don’t get a free walk on this, bdarube.
Keep spreading your lies and hatred and I’ll keep stomping you with reality like that quantified by Dr. Herek.
The Prof knows I have nuclear weapons. He has asked me not to use them. He didn’t ask me not to make you look like what you are though. So I’ll just keep on keepin on.
I wager on BiL. The others, thus far, are amateurs in the snarky tear down department… not to mention sanity and truthfulness.
Thank you Professor Turley!
He did that to PROTECT YOU, fool. He knows I’m immune to personal attacks.
By your leave, Professor.
He but your name first Buddah, top of the list, top of the class.
Your the man.
Keep it up, Patty, er, bdaidiot.
You can’t defend your bigotry and hatred.
Unless that was the war you were bringing to me.
In which case I’ll just have to laugh in your face.
So suck it, you homophobic redneck. You’re still a joke.
FlipKid
Oh so you are PellaPino, Im just good like that.
See Buddah told you, it’s an amazing gift I have.
What did that judge tell you? still waiting.