Man on a White Horse: Idaho Gubernatorial Candidate Rex Rammell Holds Closed Meetings with LDS Elders on the “White Horse” Prophecy

Rex Rammell may be running for Idaho’s governorship, but he is clearly preparing for (or at least thinking of) something more grand. The Mormon candidate will be holding closed door meetings with elders from the Church of the Latter Day Saints (LDS) on the rather apocalyptic predictions by Joseph Smith called the “White Horse” prophesy that leads to Mormons saving the nation by taking over the government.

Rammell previously attracted national attention with a joke about hunting President Obama, here.

In January, Rammell will hold a series of special meetings targeted specifically at “faithful priesthood-holders of the LDS Church” to discuss the so-called “White Horse” prophecy. Smith foretold of a constitutional crisis that leads to the impending breakup of the United States — only to have the Mormons take over the government.

Women are not invited but Rammell said that their husbands can return home and explain to them what occurred.

Rammell insists that the meetings are closed but not secret:

“There is nothing secret about the meeting — it’s just the sacred nature of the things we will be talking about. We are going to talk about (LDS Church founder) Joseph Smith’s prophecy that the Constitution will be hanging by a thread and that the Latter-day Saint elders will step forward and save it. . . . Only LDS elders are invited because I don’t want people there that don’t believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet. . . . Any active member of the church is welcome to attend.”

Now that is the ultimate stimulus package. Of course with Sarah Palin sucking the oxygen out of the Republican race for the White House, an apocalypse may be the only viable option left to Mitt Romney.

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27 thoughts on “Man on a White Horse: Idaho Gubernatorial Candidate Rex Rammell Holds Closed Meetings with LDS Elders on the “White Horse” Prophecy”

  1. seamus,

    Thank you for the compliment. I was just wondering where you’d been hiding out, you scoundrel. Personally I think branding isn’t the issue so much as all the good names are taken. My number one choice is obvious, but I think Odin would test market as sexist (that “All-Father” thing) and Quetzalcoatl would skew into the dreaded “Holy Shit! It’s a giant flying feathered snake! Run to the hills!” market. Not a prime demographic. That last choice’s problem isn’t insurmountable, just difficult. Christianity has managed to overcome the whole zombie issue as the exception that proves the rule. If P&G can make children worship cereal boxes and injection molded plastic, then I know alternatives exist.

    I also refuse to call truth or wisdom the equivalent of money. That’s a big hurdle for me. Too much “organization” and you end up with clowns like these fleecing the people.

    I’d create a religion, but I’m afraid what would be done in its name or my name when I’m gone. Judging by our species track record, eh, it’s not a risk I’m willing to take. Should a religion spontaneously form about me? Well, I’d rather not think about that. That’s just . . . too creepy and weird. I don’t want to end up painting “Romans Go Home” on public buildings nor do I want people to collect shoes.

  2. Buddha, you are wise. You should start your own religion. I don’t know what the hell you’d call it though.

  3. For those who feel the LDS are plotting to take over the government, please invest some time in getting to know the saints and understand what they’re really all about. You will soon realize the constitution has no better friends anywhere and be convinced of just how silly such arguments sound coming from such intelligent people.

  4. David Knox,

    I just read your posting. You are quite the non-believer. Give reality a try. I have never been for one party to control all of the branches of government. When that happens special interest dribble takes over and reality is escaped. Maybe I should say that reality is abated, only because we can. I was pondering what you stated and recall a statement made to me more than 30 years ago. It went something like this. When one party has control of the legislature and white house it makes for a more efficient government. This only works when peoples beliefs are based in reality to start with. That would be the person elected to serve you.

    Think McCarthy, Gingrich. Wholesale Government at bargain basement prices. Mr. Sam too. Special Interest Groups controlled at the expense of the people. Hopefully the Sct will have balance once again. FDR balanced it and got the results that he wanted by threating to pack the damn thing.

    Before you classify people as liberals or conservatives look at your own agenda. But I guess it is ok for the Government to be in your bedroom too as this is what Conservatives do. You ask for less “givernment” and by God you get more. So less is more is not always good.

    I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I will say it is like this play with your sheep all you want. I don’t care, they are your sheep and you are free to do what you may. But when your social conscience kicks in and hopefully it will. Please have enough of your own money to pay for your own counseling and I believe that you are one sick puppy and that you need help. Hence, do not expect me to pay for your counseling.

    Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal don’t confuse the two and tell me Givernment can do a better job by blasting the liberals. You see where the champ got you? or was that Chimp?

  5. Buddha,

    Scarcity of sarcasm are never short for you, even during a supposed holiday. I hope that all is well, give a shot when you can.

  6. Knox,

    Freedom is under attack by fascism from both the left and the right.

    How about paying attention instead of getting your panties twisted over that which you have no understanding, Mr. Partisan LDS Defender.

    Let’s get this clear:

    Corporations are the enemy. Not the left. Not the right.

    Corporations are playing groups like the LDS as suckers. Enjoy that bit of reality too.

    And right now you’ve swallowed so much POX Right Wing Gestapo Propaganda that you think “The Left” is the enemy.

    Lobbyists inject money – ostensibly campaign contributions – into our political system. They call it “lobbying” and what it actually is is graft. Period. If you think lobby money is something other than graft, you’re a moron and didn’t see the GOP bend over for Big Oil or the DNC just the same for the Insurance/Pharma Corporations. They do so because then the feckless scumbags from both parties will bend over every time their corporate masters tell them too whether it’s legal or not: like INVADING A COUNTRY THAT DIDN’T ATTACK US BASED ON THE MARCHING ORDERS FROM RIGHT WING OIL FASCISTS ALL TO IMPROVE THE PRESIDENT AND VP’S PERSONAL FORTUNES. So. That would appear to be history giving you the finger, you partisan hack. So wake up before you start hurling things at the Left, nitwit. There’s a helluva lot of ammo to throw at the Right. The Right wing GOP set the Constitutional House on fire. They started violating the Constitution and if you need more examples than your buddy the Texas Chimp abusing signing statements to make “law” in violation of the Separation of Powers Doctrine, then you are beyond any kind of common sense. Now the Left wing DNC is doing the exact same thing. Well then maybe you should look beyond left and right. It’s a distraction. The problem is FASCISM. It’s amoral and sociopathic corporate actors buying your rights out from under you.

    You aren’t smart enough to tell the real enemy from the one you are being spoon-fed. This is what happens when people with no understanding of how the Constitution is supposed to work watch too much FAUXNews.

    And guess what? I don’t give one rat’s ass about the LDS. Theocrats, no matter their tradition, get the finger when it comes to governance. We have secular government for a reason too. If the LDS isn’t up to something, they shouldn’t worry now should they? But considering how they muck about with the State laws in Utah, I’m going to call bullshit on that. If they don’t want to get bitten by the same Constitution you are complaining about being abused, the LDS should start to respect the Separation of Church and state better than they do now.

    Apparently, Santa didn’t get you a clue for Xmas, did he?

  7. It is amazing how the liberals can twist and distort anything to suit their purpose. I have listened to the entire interview (Q&A also). Rammell did not say one word about taking over the government. What he said was that all good citizens (LDS and non-LDS) need to stand up and defend our Constitution. Defending our Constitution should be a mandate of every citizen. It IS a mandate of every elected official as they take an oath to defend the United States Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic. The problem is our elected officials are not upholding their oath or the Constitution and should be brought up on treason charges.

    If a person isn’t willing to defend the Constitution they have no business in public office. It is and has been the liberal agenda for years to destroy the Constitution and take over the United States and turn it into a socialist country or worse. Freedom is under attack by the liberal elitists.

  8. From an active Mormon and former Turley student, Not all Mormons are this crazy. He’s an embarrassment to the faith.

    And Turley, check the facts. There are substantial doubts about whether Smith ever gave this prophecy. From the article itself, “The only accounts of the alleged White Horse prophecy were provided second hand, years after Joseph Smith died and can’t be corroborated with other sources.”

  9. Rex Ramell is a complete screw up just look and at his past. He has no right to make such claims and make it look like he is organizing church meetings when he is not in the position nor does he have the authority to do so.

  10. Rex Ramell is just another nut case and shows it every time the talks. Historians can prove that Joseph Smith ever made such a claim as the so called white horse. Rex Ramell is just a nut case who is a no body who wants to be a some body.

  11. Buddha, I love you. Marry me. (or live in a mutually respectful co-habitation)
    Happy Merry Joyful PeaceFULL to ALL!

  12. I can smell the fractionating Republic from here! Smells just like anarchy.

    The LDS. Just another stick on the pyre of liberty and justice for all.

    Theocrats are theocrats. And the LDS deserves no more slack than any other group in that respect. They may even deserve more scorn than most. Need I say more than The Osmonds? They are neither a little bit country nor a little bit rock and roll. A lot creepy though in their Stepford kind of way. If not for the sake of Constitutional rights and religious freedom, I beg you to think of the music, man! THINK OF THE MUSIC!

  13. I think these LDS members have been taking too much LSD! That is the first time I have heard that ridiculous “prophecy”. What would Christmas Eve be without at least one wacky, and dangerous religious wingnut?

  14. From the article you linked to: ““Rammell said that though LDS women were not invited because of lack of space, he hopes that the men will take the message home to their wives.”

    Lack of space. Oh, sure!!! No sexism there…right?

    The FLDS is the group that’s REALLY scary. That’s the fundamentalist offshoot of Latter Day Saints. Remember Warren Jeffs who is now serving time in prison?


    Polygamist ‘prophet’ to serve at least 10 years in prison (CNN, 11/20/2007)

    A Utah judge Tuesday sentenced polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs to two consecutive prison terms of five years to life for his conviction on two counts of being an accomplice to rape, a court spokeswoman said.

    The consecutive sentences mean Jeffs will serve at least 10 years. The exact amount of time he serves will be determined by the Utah Board of Pardons and Parole in the future.

    Jeffs, 51, the “prophet” of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, was convicted in September.

    He was accused of using his religious influence over his followers to coerce a 14-year-old girl into marriage to her 19-year-old cousin.


    An excellent book about the founding of the Church of Latter Day Saints and about the FLDS is Jon Krakauer’s “Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith.” Has anyone else read it?

  15. “And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.”

    Oops, wrong “White Horse” prophecy. Although I do have to say that one of these two religions is going to look pretty silly at the apocalypse. Awkward!

  16. “There’s nothing secret about the meeting”

    Nothing secret. We’re just planning the take over of the US government. Nothing for outsiders and non-conspirators to see here. Only those with the right magic underwear can hear what we’re planning. Catholics and Protestants and Jews and Muslims and Buddhists and Atheists and Scientologists and Evangelicals, you know—the others—can’t be part of our little take over, it’s just for us. The Taliban should be welcome though, ‘cuz they understand our goals.

    Doersn’t really matter what the brand name, religion is a seriously dangerous, mind-altering and mind-numbing narcotic.

  17. Can’t really blame teh Governor. Why run a state when the LDS promises a whole planet or your own?

  18. Of course with Sarah Palin sucking the oxygen out of the Republican race for the White House, an apocalypse may be the only viable option left to Mitt Romney.

    I have heard that she sucked and apparently oxygen is in the repertoire.

    Maybe the DOJ needs to open a RICO claim against the LDS for criminal enterprise. Alls the government has to say is “I am from the Government and I am here to help you” this should make it alright. It is Christmas eve and all of the other loving good feelings weather too…..

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