A church in Oregon has the infamous reputation of killing children in the name of faith. Now, two parents — Jeff and Marci Beagley — have been found guilty of negligent homicide. Their case was discussed in this prior column. It is a welcomed charge (often religious parents are given lesser charges in the death of their children due to faith-healing), but the likely sentence is likely to be relatively low given the history of this church and the loss of life.
They will face only 16-18 months in the death of their sixteen-year-old Neil who died from a urinary tract blockage that could have been easily addressed by doctors. I have argued that faith-healing parents are being given special and lenient treatment over other neglectful parents, here.
The Followers of Christ church rejects conventional medicine in favor of faith-healing.
“I have conceded that he is correct.” – Anonymously Yours
Oh goody.
AY has graciously agreed to provide us with another example of him lying.
Scrolling up, we see he never “conceded that I was correct”.
What he said was that he was correct. He never actually conceded the point. He just said that “some day” we’ll know he was right.
Observe:
“Anonymously Yours 1, February 4, 2010 at 6:58 pm
I think the sct is wrong, you think that they are correct. Some case some day will prove that I am correct. But for today, I concede. “
You know bdaman, there are laws in place that you must shovel you walk within 24 hours of a snow fall. I guess some people pick and choose which laws to follow and which one that are a public safety measure for other people and flagrantly disregard them.
I mean cyber crimes division
Ay I B Da MAN
30 what did the state attorney I mean professor do for you after you contacted him.
Bdaman,
You are going to end up hurting 30’s feelings and he will go to the professor and have us both banned. You need to make right with him. I have conceded that he is correct. he can’t seem to get it through his computer screen. Are you filtering out the content before it gets to his computer? If so, I am going to have to ask you to stop it this very instant.
Give it up AY\Bdaman.
Debates over.
You lost.
Continuing to launch personal attacks after the Professor just asked you not to shows what and who you really are.
You cannot debate your position, so you spend days launching endless personal attacks and fortunately for you there are people in here dumb enough to join in with you.
When you can explain your position, why its ok to deny medical care from my kids, but not food, you let me know.
Until then, your POSITION has been readily defeated.
And your little kiddy personal attack fiasco here, is proof positive of that fact.
bdaman,
You are 30. He goes away and you show up. What’s the deal? Are you wayne?
I love 30, takes alot off me. Now you have to admit he is very inteeligent. It is only in the way that he makes his point does he get on ones nerves. 30, please visit the 120% thread conducted by Slartiblast and Bobesguire to see a debate. I can not link to it because it freezes my screen but you can use the search tool to find it.
Bdaman,
All I can do is just try and figure this cat out. He is deranged. I have heard that its hard to snort a line off of the mirror attached to the wall. But hey, some people will do anything.
Oh so now I am taking a less that popular view? So is new to you?
I am not duh, bdaman, amon re, buddha, sock puppet, mespo. I am just me. AY
You need help son. Help.
Well AY, your rebuttal please
And just to demonstrate how utterly ignorant you clowns are, observe.
“Anonymously Yours 1, February 5, 2010 at 9:25 am
Hommie 1, February 4, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Hey Thirty you are dirty and I am going to take you out you filthy lying sack of septic stuff.
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That was not very nice. Can you answer Badman why you insist of saying something like this.
For the most part we all try and get along. Please no more threats. If you are going to make them, please do so at me. I am not as fragile.
If this is you wayne, duh, bdaman or any other non de plume de jour. Please I am asking that we only have civil discourse.
”
But wait.
Prior to Professor Turley coming in to condemn this threat, AY was DEFENDING and DENYING it.
Observe;
Anonymously Yours 1, February 4, 2010 at 9:29 pm
“Bdaman,
I don’t see where the death threat is, or what is immanent about one if one could be considered to have been made.
“Hey Thirty you are dirty- sounds like you need a bath.
“and I am going to take you out” Always good to clean up, nothing immanent here either1
“you filthy lying sack of septic stuff.” well what do you find in the septic tank?
I don’t see where anyone’s life has been threatened. Do you?”
So last night he was denying that it was a threat.
But as soon as Doctor Turley shows up to condemn a death threat suddenly he’s teachers pet.
Suddenly he’s soooo very concerned about the threat.
Seriously if you people are too stupid to see that this guy who was arguing FOR RELIGIOUS RIGHT TO NEGLECT OUR CHILDREN, is also Bdaman (who was here whenever he was and shoring up his argument by attacking me together) then you all really are too stupid for word.
I mean stupid.
This guy is arguing that its ok to neglect our kids on religious grounds.
I’M arguing that it is NOT ok, and he played you morons into ganging up to attack me. Non stop.
Someone said last night that stupid is as stupid does and you’ve proven it here with your Ringling Brothers Circus of Hate.
No, 30%er,
I take that back. I don’t want you any where close to where I am. I think you are a danger to those you associate with. I figure you have few friends.
30%er,
Alls I can say and I say this for myself and myself alone. You did not debated. You dictated the terms of the answers. That is not debate. You may have won on the merits which I conceded. You lost the war because of your obnoxious antics.
There is no debating you.
I end this in saying this from my heart. “BITE ME”
Wow.
I try to remain on topic, and everyone comes in launching personal attacks.
1. Buddha, you’re too inbred stupid to respond to.
You’re brain still hasn’t figured out that the position you are attacking me for is AY’s, not mine.
You’re just too stupid, to respond to. When you pull your head out of your a$$ and figure out what my position was, AND if you have a comment on it other than your little babytalk, you let me know.
2. Byron. Thanks for showing up to add to the personal attack circus. You as your altar ego Buddha, are just too stupid to respond to. When you have something other than juvenile personal attacks, you let me know.
3. Mespo. Once again, too damned ignorant, too respond to. You’re probably the lowest of the scumbags in here, as you are a proven BIGOT. When you grow the balls to say to my face the bigotry you spout in here little man, you let me know. Until then, too stupid to respond to.
4. Empirecookie. You’ve already admitted to being a sockpuppet, and you already were shown to have ZERO to offer the debate other than piling on the personal attack circus. So you like the last few if you don’t have anything pertinent to the topic but instead just personal attacks, can pucker up and kiss my a$$.
5. AY. Well you did it. You argued that it is ok to kill your kids through neglect, and then when I demonstrated how utterly morally bankrupt that position was, as it was unfounded, you turned to this circus of personal attacks which spiraled into the disaster you’ve made of this thread.
I stayed on topic. I stayed with the subject.
You people who claim to be intellectual superiors have done nothing but launch juvenile personal attacks without stop.
When professor Turely came in and said this thread was exhausting patience because of the personal attacks, you guys just stepped them up a notch.
Proving that:
1. You do not respect him
2. You do not respect this article or the principles I and others were trying to discuss.
3. You do not respect this blog.
4. You are not interested in debate.
5. You are only interested in insulting people and driving out anyone you don’t like.
Professor Turley? If THIS is what wins your blog those “Best Legal Theory” awards, then the award doesn’t mean much.
This lot you have here is a doltish, bellicose group of thugs, not a group of intellectual scholars.
I’ll be waiting for any of you who feel your brain is strong enough to debate the TOPIC.
Until then thanks for exposing what you are really all about.
empire cookie:
he changed it to a smiley face a while back. I think you need to clear some Internet features-cookies, history, cache etc.
I always let that stuff pile up to.
Well I am just me, AY. Forever and a day at least it seems this way.
No Princess,
You were informed last evening that you were a sock puppet. I still don’t know why, but I swear I did not swallow anything. But officer why do you have that glaze in your eyes?
“I think 30% might be CroMagnum Man based on how he does the ratatat posts.”
Not to mention they have the same picture.
Oh my bad
Anonymously Yours
1, February 5, 2010 at 9:39 am
I did not turn on you. I don’t think.
Anonymously Yours
1, February 4, 2010 at 10:00 pm
What did you remove on your end of it bdaman? I am sure you did something.
Anonymously Yours
1, February 4, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Bdaman, Duh, Mika, and all of you other doubting trolls, troll time is over. Go home.
Anonymously Yours
1, February 4, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Bdaman,
You persist in many screen names don’t you?
Anonymously Yours
1, February 4, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Please Bdaman, wayne, troll non de plume,
Tell him the truth. You have scared him.