A new video appears to support brutality claims against three Prince George’s County police officers shown beating of a Maryland student after the Maryland-Duke basketball game.
Prosecutors are investigating the matter and this video is likely to be the central feature of any trial.
The video shows the student taunting and then talking to police. However, beyond being perhaps a bit obnoxious, the student does not appear to be doing anything warranting arrest let alone such a beating.
Are you guessing that he did NOT have 11 mos. of US Military training?
Im guessing with your astute mental powers you can somehow tell from that article the deputy is a veteran.
He feared for his life:
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100417/ARTICLE/4171047/2055/NEWS?Title=-Kid-prank-leads-to-fatal-shooting-in-Venice
only 11 mos. in the military.
Chris,
Excellent point!
Well if they want to become police thats ok too Buddy. Its just not okay with you, and that’s okay with me. No matter what anyone tells you, you are always going to have these unfounded, preconcieved notions about veterans becoming police officers, with no evidence to back it up. You have made numerous assumptions, with not one shred of evidence to prove that veterans make bad police officers. That’s no different than assuming women make bad soldiers, or gays shouldn’t be able to serve.
Buddy,
Please cite any evidence besides your own illogical opinion.
second guess motives and method from 10,000 miles away
I said that what the soldiers did in Iraq was fine. But if they police here they are going to bring the methods and motives here. It has already happening. Not only do they bring the methods and motives here on their own behalf, but they have a profound affect on policemen who have never trained for combat.
You know, if veterans with combat training made up the proportion of police that they make up as a fraction of the population at large, there would not be much of a problem. The problem is that these people become policeman in wildly disproportionate numbers. I think we both know why that is.
If they want to be lifeguards or firefighters, great. Just not police.
bUDDY:
I wish I had a quarter for every policeman who died because a criminal had a weapon and the officer didn’t see it.
I wish I had a quarter for every child that received the folded flag from their fathers or mothers coffin and was thanked for their parent’s sacrifice.
When you are in a war zone like Iraq there is no relative safety. Easy for you to sit back in your comfy chair and second guess motives and method from 10,000 miles away.
That was a helicopter gunship that made a mistake from a fairly long distance.
They made that mistake from a position of relative safety. I would hate to have them making a similar determination at close quarters. Speaking of quarters:
I wish I had a quarter for everytime a policeman said “I thought I saw a [insert weapon here] and there turned out to be no [insert weapon here] there.”
I wish I had a quarter for evertime a policeman said “I thought I saw a [insert weapon here]” and then his comrade in arms made it happen.
Budahmed:
“The actions of MSgt Wert are bussiness as usual.”
From the Marines I know I would say that is a true statement.
Budahmed:
That was a helicopter gunship that made a mistake from a fairly long distance. Not a situation that would come up much in police work.
Guess what Buddy “You can’t always get what you want”.
The actions of MSgt Wert are bussiness as usual.
That video is business as usual. Again, listen to the way they talk and what they say. That video has been repeating itself in Iraq and Afghanistan for many years now I am sure. The only difference is that we usually don’t get to see it.
And that is fine. That is what war (or at least occupation) looks like. That is what is permissible.
I just don’t want those men to be making the decisions about who to shoot and who not to shoot inside the US. Unless the Canadians invade.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,270832,00.html
Here is how we are trained to save lives.
I guess you can just make a broad assumption about the military based on one video.
You have no first hand experience of the training we recieve or how much we value human life.
Sure I do.
Again I ask, do you know if the person in this video was a veteran?
Their conduct would indicate that they are veterans. The fact that their identities have not been released to the public suggests that the Prince Georges police department is lousy with veterans and their beloved opsec. Until and unless more information is released, that is the best clue we have, and our tentative judgements must be based upon that. There is certainly no good evidence that they were not veterans who were trained for military combat.
Buddy,
Again I ask, do you know if the person in this video was a veteran? Can you show me some videos of police officers abusing their powers, who were vets?
In your opinion veterans are unintelligent bots who cannot think for themselves. You’ve probably seen half a dozen military movies so you assume that what you saw in Hurt Locker is how life in the military is. But you’ve never served in the military. You have no first hand experience of the training we recieve or how much we value human life.
The students in the Maryland video were much more of a threat (which is not to say a large threat) to the riot police then the people in the SUV trying to rescue the shot journalist were to the US military. Listen to how badly the military gunmen want to shoot the SUV, the pleading tone. There might have been children in the SUV. It didn’t matter. When it turned out there were children in there and they were hurt by the missile it still didn’t matter. You don’t just turn those attitudes off like a switch. Even if the returning veterans can tell apart Maryland and Iraq blindfolded, that really is not the issue here.
Buddy,
How were the police in a ‘tense’ situation? (I admit that a Maryland victory over Duke is unpleasant, but I would hardly characterize it as ‘tense’.) And as for the rules of engagement, I would expect soldiers to understand the concept better, not worse – it they were in a situation where the rules of engagement led them to beat an unarmed and unthreatening person without cause, then any problem is with the ROE, not the soldiers. Why do you think that soldiers would be MORE likely to violate the ROE than non-soldiers? (Whatever those rules happened to be.)