The Russian media is reporting that Dmitry Kazachuk, 4, died during an exorcism in the Primorye region. Doctors believe the boy had pneumonia. No one by the shaman was present with the boy when he stopped breathing.
The family asked had gone to shaman So Dyavor, 59, and her husband, Kim Sende, 62, to get help for the grandmother, who has diabetes. However, So Dyavor told them that the entire family was cursed by the boy and required a full exorcism. Remarkably, killing a child in an exorcism is only punished by a maximum of three years in prison.
Source: Moscow Times.
gocart,
Pol Pot was a Maoist Communist and as such was likely an atheist although I don’t know that for a fact. In addition to targeting anyone with an education, he notoriously targeted Buddhists and Muslims for the death camps.
Tootles,
Thanks again for showing us what an religiously intolerant bigot you are. You being a bad example never gets old. Well. Actually it does, theocrat. Watching your never ending flow of hatred disguised as doing “God’s work” is a bit nauseating. You better hope your little revenge fairy tail of the Rapture doesn’t come true because if Jesus comes back as a lion, he’s probably not going to be happy with what people like you have done in his name instead of preaching and practicing the love and tolerance he himself taught.
I left out Tojo, or perhaps you meant well known athiests George V, Nicholas II, Kaiser Wilhelm, or Woodrew Wilson.
“Godless atheists murdered about one hundred million people last century, tens of millions of them children.”
I hope you are not including the Christian tyrant Hitler in that tally. Bin Laden is very religious. Was Pol Pot Taoist? Not sure.
vlf2112:
I’m not even a member of the family and I’m pretty upset myself.
Godless atheists murdered about one hundred million people last century, tens of millions of them children.
This is not about religion.
It is about the human condition.
All humans are crazy, it is just a matter of degree.
Or, as the bible puts it: all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
What does it mean to sin? According to the root word, it means to “miss the mark”. To miss the target, or “the point”.
None of us gets “it” right.
What is “it”?
Righteousness.
To blame religion for that which is wrong in us all, is to lose sight of the problem and continue to not learn from history, and to repeat the same old mistakes that lead to tragedy and suffering, and to perpetuate that which is most wrong with us: our inability to judge rightly.
Yissil:
LOL
But in all seriousness, this is what happens when you put faith in mythical beings, as opposed to science and reality. I wonder how this kid’s parents feel.
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Beth Hunter, I haven’t yet welcomed you to this merry band of misfits. Welcome. I just checked the Master Transcription website, by the way. Very imaginative and succinct.
Missile?
Whistle?
Bristle?
whose name rhymes with yours. oops
Yissil You remind me of another poster here whose name rhymes whose yours.
I’m not sure if shamanism even counts as a religion. A shaman is more like a witch doctor than a priest, to be extremely politically incorrect about it. Or a “medicine man.”
I’m sure that a real priest would have removed the demons safely from the boy.
Then sexually molested him.
Those who haven’t witnessed a ritual exorcism should count themselves lucky. The one I witnessed (which was of the Christian Evangelical variety and performed on a teenager who I now believe was simply showing signs of clinical depression) was by far the worst example of human behavior I’ve ever personally witnessed. It still makes me physically sick to think of it.
Dredd:
“So the shaman killed the hell outta the kid?”
I guess you could say that.
Rcampbell, global banishment would be wee bit of a challenge to enforce, though the fantasy is appealing.
Rather, much better results can be obtained by insisting that religion be kept out of the public square, and not the basis for public policy. The law is on the side of anyone who wants to push it.
Trouble is, no one has had the cojones. The old calcified hands that actually still run the country would not know a network — data, social, or otherwise — if it bit them on the shriveled arse. Obama has commented that his problems in D.C. are largely generational, still in pandering thralldom to the Old Time Religion that is destroying our freedoms.
The Patriot Act has got to go, followed by the dissolution of the Dept. Homeland Security. Erase the information walls in govt., and the political walls will soon follow. End the CLEARY crusader wars. Prosecute war criminals All pipe dreams until those born under information take the reigns.
So the shaman killed the hell outta the kid?
rcampbell
1, July 16, 2010 at 8:58 am
I took some heat yesterday for suggesting all religions should be banished from the earth. I certainly didn’t mean this literally, but I do strongly hold that believers in this nonsense should get off that high horse called piety and recognize and take responsibilty for the destructive history of virtually all the world’s religions; the ongoing divisions, prejudices, hatred and suspicions between people which they foster in the names of their various gods’ and the barrier they represent to the advancement of humans.
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faux holy heat from a faux holy roller doesn’t count for squat … your points are all on target and ring true
Simply sad.
I took some heat yesterday for suggesting all religions should be banished from the earth. I certainly didn’t mean this literally, but I do strongly hold that believers in this nonsense should get off that high horse called piety and recognize and take responsibilty for the destructive history of virtually all the world’s religions; the ongoing divisions, prejudices, hatred and suspicions between people which they foster in the names of their various gods’ and the barrier they represent to the advancement of humans.
Okay. Let me see if I get this straight: So in Russia, killing a child in an exorcism is punishable by a maximum of three years in prison. The Vatican, in its new rule-making, declares the attempted ordination of women as Roman Catholic priests a “delicta graviora,” on par with the sexual abuse of children. Dinesh in Karachi, a thirsty Hindu child in a hot country, is murdered after attempting to drink water from a fountain near a mosque.
Religulous.