The House floor was the scene of some heated exchanges after Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) took the floor to address the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act.
While this is merely a heated and not offensive exchange. It is representative of the diminishing level of discourse in Congress on both sides. Congress is becoming the WWF without the folding chairs and pile drivers.
Blouise:
I was actually talking about all of them. Bush and the republicans in office under him didn’t do so well either. In fact they gave us TARP so I am actually quite disturbed by that as well. Tom Delay and his crew were every bit as bad as the ones in congress now.
Bdaman:
Greenspan was/is a very bad economist/human being. There is no excuse for what that cocksucker did. And Paulson is right behind him with that bail out to his butt buddies on Wall St. And the sad part is that most of the Wall St. fat cats give heavily to the democratic party. So I guess Paulson’s school ties are stronger than his political ties.
He and Greenspan should both be in jail for what they did. And probably in a cell next to Bush (Cheney would be let out by Haliburton on compassionate grounds :))
No more oil to pick up off the beaches.
Good job team, except for the Coast Guard, they’ll get the credit in the end but come to find out a certified Fire Marshall was never dispatched to the seen right after the accident and questions about all the fire boats trying to quell the flames basically sunk the vessel by overloading it’s means of pumping the water back into the ocean from it’s bilges.
Byron
1, August 1, 2010 at 5:13 pm
TraderB:
“They are hoarding it or sending it overseas.”
they have been doing that since November 5th of 2008 and in a big way. They have divesting themselves of property in the US.
Hopefully this economic disaster will end and the adults will take control of the Fed and SEC and Congress and will follow sound economic principles. Something the last 4 presidents have been want to do. Although Bill Clinton did have his feet held to the fire by a republican congress which at that time had some fiscal sanity.
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Ah yes, let’s all sing the praises of “Newt” Gingrich and crew … Asa Hutchinson (graduate of Bob Jones and really great family values guy), Gramm (of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 which led to the whopping financial crisis of 2007/2008), and other infamous republican “adults” so admired by Byron.
The economic disaster to which you refer started with your buds and almost destroyed this country.
Your boy down in Ark., Shelby and his cohort up in Tenn., Corker were quite willing to serve their foreign masters when it came to scrapping the american auto industry. Well, Byyy-ron … the American auto industry has made a full recovery adding 55,000 jobs (with more to come) and your “adult” boys are stuck with their Toyota plants (drive at your own risk). Several of which are now looking towards Mexico. Tell your adult buddies that’s what happens when they sell out the American dream.
Further, and probably much to republican dismay, the battery plants are going to be built up north and in the midwest and will add at least 65,000 new jobs. That’s what your republican “adults” were trying to stop when they wanted to scrap the American auto industry.
Thanks to the recovery of the American auto industry, glass, rubber, plastic, job shops, steel … yeah … all those components of a manufacturing society that your republican friends were trying to kill are enjoying a resurgence.
Maybe the lower middle class stands a chance … must make you sick to your stomach! Give TraderB a big kiss from me, Byyy-ron.
(sorry guys, I have been reading Byron’s stuff for months and kept my mouth shut but that “fiscal sanity of a republican congress/adults” crap …
Unemployment is going up on August 4th according to early reports.
Census is finished and now all them boys who were knocking out 35-4500 a week walking on the beach for twenty minutes and sittin in a Air conditioned motor coach aint workin anymore.
Buddha:
Greenspan is a fool, he was responsible for the mess we found ourselves in that necessitated the TARP which the idiot Bush and Paulson delivered to bale out there BFF’s on Wall St. However these policies are again being followed by the Obama administration which is going to end up administering a coup de grace to our wounded economy.
Third world status here we come. Sired by a compassionate conservative and mid-wifed by a far left democrat. A bi-partisan feat of duplicity, malfeasance and stupidity.
Greenspan, what is it with you and the green, other than you aint got none, except all up in here.
Visual
(hand open fingers extended waving in front of face)
Bet you lost your ass in pool the other night and still went home with your hand in your pocket, lady friend didn’t work out none neither, probably to young.
You mean the one Obama inherited from a Republican President and a Republican controlled Congress.
Yep thats it, thats the one, they sure did set this fool up for a good one, had to see it coming, dirty bastards. Them jokers left a trail long enough that ain’t nobody gonna figure out exactly what dem der fellas was doin for years.
and this one here knows it to, why do you think he takes so many vacations and hoopin it up, he don’t give a damn, he’s fucked and knows it, the mans all for show I tell ya, seen’ em on the View just the other day.
lol. We seem to have changed the subject for some reason …
Alan Greenspan has something to say to Republicans about the economy.
The comments from the former Fed chief were an elaboration of a position he outlined in an interview earlier in the week. Speaking with PBS’ Judy Woodruff, Greenspan expressed his opposition to passing legislation that would hold tax rates steady (under law the tax cuts Bush passed ten years ago are going to expire, thereby bringing rates back to Clinton-era levels). President Obama has pledged to continue the tax breaks for those individuals making under $200,000 and those families earning less than $250,000.
But Republicans want the entire package kept in place. Even so, they have declined to say how they would pay for it, saying, in part, that keeping the Bush tax cuts in place will pay for itself.
In addition to throwing cold water on that theory, Greenspan also weighed in on broader economic issues and trends. The former Fed Chairman relayed some sobering economic predictions, saying he expected the nation’s unemployment rate to remain at its current level, mainly because there were few tools left to change it.
“I see it [as] we just stay where we are,” he said. “There is a gradual increase in employment but not enough to reduce the level of unemployment …There is nothing out there that I can see which will alter the trend or the level of unemployment in this country.”
The economy.
You mean the one Obama inherited from a Republican President and a Republican controlled Congress.
Yep.
It’ll be an issue alright. One the Democrats will remind people every chance they get as to who is responsible with their 30 years of deregulation started under Reagan and TARP – brought to you by the Bush Administration. The same people who brought you the Savings & Loan debacle of 80’s & 90’s. All of which cumulated in what was essentially rewarding white collar criminal friends (and relatives lest you forget Neil Bush) of the GOP.
Yeah. It’s not all good news for the Dems on the economy because they haven’t pulled the car out of the ditch.
But the good news is they weren’t the ones who drove it into the ditch in the first place.
TraderB:
“They are hoarding it or sending it overseas.”
they have been doing that since November 5th of 2008 and in a big way. They have divesting themselves of property in the US.
Hopefully this economic disaster will end and the adults will take control of the Fed and SEC and Congress and will follow sound economic principles. Something the last 4 presidents have been want to do. Although Bill Clinton did have his feet held to the fire by a republican congress which at that time had some fiscal sanity.
People do not really focus on the races until after Labor Day. The key will be the economy. There was some hope that it was picking up, but Bernanke threw a wet blanket on that idea. It is likely that unemployment will rise as employers begin to lose hope.
They are hoarding it or sending it overseas.
Companies are turning in healthy profits, and are sitting on a record-breaking pile of cash — nearly $1 trillion and growing.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/27/news/economy/fear_economy/index.htm
If the Republicans do not take Congress back, we can expect 2 more years of recession (Depression?). The rich are on strike. They are not hiring, but are making money hand over fist with lean staffs. They are hoarding it or sending it overseas.
The uncertainty over health-care costs, taxes and compulsory unionization have them frightened of adding more people in spite of the orders pouring in. There is also fear that Obama will seize your company under some pretext. Better to slowly liquidate U.S. operations and invest overseas.
I don’t know if people get this, but the Republicans aren’t ahead in the House, in terms of getting a majority. The Dems will lose a lot of seats, which always happens to the President’s party after his first election, but they are at least as likely as not to hang on to the majority.
The New York Times poll has the dems fairly solidly ahead:
http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/house
Real Clear Politics has the two parties essentially tied:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/house/2010_elections_house_map.html
As I showed before, the idea that the president is intensely unpopular isn’t true: he’s at about 45%, about the same as Ronald Reagan at this point in his presidency, and probably for the same reason (a recession.)
The Dems will lose at least about 30 seats, but whether or not they keep the majority will be at worst a close run thing. Or so the polls say.
Blouise:
I it has already kicked in for some people. The high risk pool for instance.
This a post from way back in the thread, but i thought I would comment:
smallguvguy:
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His (Weiner’s) beef should be with his fellow Denocrats,
D-255 R-178. Good acting though.
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But it’s a straight party line vote: there are 255 dems and 178 r’s in the house.
Probably just a brain fart on smallguvguy’s part. He must have thought he saw something that wasn’t there.
Yissil,
I know several people who can’t wait for the program to kick in … they are quite unhappy with the 2014 date.
Here’s a little ray of sunshine: the received wisdom is that the healthcare reform is wildly unpopular, but in fact 50% of Americans now have a favorable view of the program while only 37% oppose it.
http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls/8084.cfm
Who’d a guessed?