Australia is facing a controversy that is all too familiar to Americans. Fundamentalists in state schools are teaching children that humans and dinosaurs lived together and Noah brought dinosaur eggs on to the Ark.
Children are also taught that Adam and Eve were not eaten by dinosaurs “because they were under a protective spell.”
This is consistent with Palintology — the new science advanced by Sarah Palin — which insists that man and dinosaur must have co-existed despite carbon dating and simple logic.
Source: News
If it’s good enough for George Clinton it’s good enough for me.
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Here’s another type of human evolution:
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Mike Appleton wrote:
“We have no idea what effect the dispersants will have on those systems because there are no relevant studies, at least that I am aware of.”
There are two types of toxity. One is to humans from the aerosol, since the lungs do not have the protections of ingestion. Corexit 9500A is very toxic and workers need protection when handling it.
The other is to sea life. The products are tested in parts per million and Corexit is toxic to shrimp if exposed long enough. However, the Gulf concentrations are in parts per billion.
According to Nalco, Corexit 9500A biodegrades in about 28 days into harmless components already in the ocean. See these for more info and links:
http://www.nalco.com/news-and-events/nalco-oil-dispersant-information.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corexit
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TraderB,
You make a claim, you cite it.
In this case, the claim seems to be: thanks to microbes the gulf oil spill won’t be a big deal environmentally. If I got that wrong, please correct me. After that, we could get into the dead zones, the rational behind the dispersant, etc.
Alternately you could back up your original claim and show a study saying that the level of scientific knowledge in both conservatives and liberals is roughly equivalent. (Although I doubt you’ll find anything that backs that up)
Take a short video tour of the Creation Museum:
Dinosaurs, Humans Coexist at Creation Museum
Woosty’s still a Cat wrote:
“well I have never heard the Rush and āopen-mindedā strung together in the same sentence before. Truly I am no longer a virgin.”
I bet you get your info from secondary sources. Try listening for two weeks. He is not as right-wing as the MSM would have you believe. The gist of his show is entrepreneurial, as opposed to Big Government and Big Business. He comes up with a lot of original ideas.
Gyges wrote:
“Citations please?”
You can find most by Googling IXTOC 1. I have read a lot of material, but did not keep copies of all. What do you wanted cited in particular?
“Woosty’s still a Cat”
“you use the word āsuckersā why? because they believe what those who have a trust tell them? In this case the word is āvictimsā and it has little to do with liberal or conservativeā¦.it has everything to do with who is telling the liesā¦ā¦”
No, it is because he uses buzz words and they fall for it, without investigating further.
TraderB,
O.k. I’ll bite.
Citations please? Anyone who knows as much as you do about science knows that claims need to backed up. Science being a process by which theories are tested against their ability to match the reality of a situation. So, in the spirit of your disinterested scientific view point, I say: Prove it.
Let me give credit where credit is due: you did provide a link about the turtles (although saving eighty out of thousands doesn’t seem all that strong of evidence that “this generation has been saved.”)
“History teaches that many legitimate claims will not be paid for years, if at all. This is not a pessimistic prediction. It is what happens, and there are reasons for it”
It is in the long-term interest of BP to pay the damages. It has many employees in the area and it would badly hurt morale if they did not pay. It would be extremely bad for public relations and might affect their attempts to drill more wells. $20 billion is chump change to BP.
Why would BP have set up the escrow account if they did not intend to pay? They could have simply have relied on the $75 million limitation of liability. In addition, the drilling was done by a subsidiary.
Everyone thought that Obama forced BP to set up the account, but they had already decided to do it. The amount was negotiated, but it really did not matter, since they will get what is left over. BP contacted Feinburg two week before. The only thing that Obama got at the meeting was the $100 million for the workers laid off by the moratorium. It was a sop to him. Not even his own lawyers thought that BP would be found liable for the Government’s action. Apparently, he is not very sharp on the law.
Neither BP nor the Government has control over disbursements. The account is secured by U.S. assets and will be funded over 4 years. See the White HOuse memo:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/06/17/a-new-process-and-a-new-escrow-account-gulf-oil-spill-claims-bp
Feinburg has said that he will base his decision on what the person could collect in his own jurisdiction. He gave some people some preliminary money. However, he will eventually offer them a settlement. His decision is binding on BP. Dissatisfied claimants can appeal to the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund or join the lawsuits. Of course, in the latter case, lawyers would take a big chunk of it.
The biggest problem is that some people did not pay taxes on part of their income. Most of the businesses are cash businesses. Feinburg is asking for their tax returns for the past 3 years and could even have them request the IRS to send copies directly to him.
TraderB: “It just shows that he is open-minded.”
well I have never heard the Rush and ‘open-minded’ strung together in the same sentence before. Truly I am no longer a virgin.
I think what you are saying about the estruaries sounds plausible except for the sheer amount of disappearsant used and the secrecy surrounding the area, the strong arming to keep pictures being taken that could show the actual real time damage and suffering, and the monstrously huge plumes of underwater oil which are anything but just beneath the surface.
and this:”The problem is that most liberals have been trained to react to certain buzz words. Read how Schumer trained Weiner to parrot the buzz words to the Manhattan suckers:”
you use the word ‘suckers’ why? because they believe what those who have a trust tell them? In this case the word is ‘victims’ and it has little to do with liberal or conservative….it has everything to do with who is telling the lies……
Mike Appleton wrote:
“Furthermore, cleaning up the beaches is the easiest part of the whole process.”
That is true. However, the scientists were worried about the salt marshes. They are very difficult to clean and are where many species spend their early years. The strategy was to break up the slicks in very small droplets suspended just below the surface. This would provide enough oxygen for the microbes to consume the oil in the open ocean before it reached the shore. It appears to have worked pretty well.
What I am trying to find out is whether the Government placed scarce booms off beaches at the expense of the estuaries. In IXTOC 1, they let the beaches go and protected the estuaries. The beaches are conspicuous and generate the most criticism. Thus, I wonder if there was politics involved in the decisions. All this crowd has on its mind is politics, so it would not surprise me.
Note also, that about 1 million barrels a year seeps into the Gulf naturally. It has better microbes than the commercial ones.
Mike Appleton wrote:
“Second, should the Gulf recover quickly, that will not prove that Rush is a genius.”
I am not saying that it makes him a genius, although he is very smart. It just shows that he is open-minded. The article appeared in McClatchy newspapers and was widely read. It quoted scientists with knowledge of IXTOC 1. However, environmentalists could not overcome their preconceived notions. I did not find one environmental blog that discussed it, even though there were many scientific paper online.
The problem is that most liberals have been trained to react to certain buzz words. Read how Schumer trained Weiner to parrot the buzz words to the Manhattan suckers:
http://www.salon.com/news/anthony_weiner_dny/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/07/30/weiner_don_t_get_excited
http://open.salon.com/blog/kevin_gosztola/2010/07/30/100_days_since_bp_disaster_what_people_in_gulf_are_saying
So Blouise,
You did the mexican and came home, so how was it…..
Why the heck was Bryon stating that you are a multimillionaire, did I miss something or was he speaking from or out of the top while standing on his hands, again?
Hey now wait a minute Buddha, I like tricky Dick. He at least did what he said. The unpopular conflict was stopped, I did not have to register or even get close to registering. I was in 10th grade when the draft was stopped. You have to love that one thing. Ok, so he was a criminal, what about poor Spiro being indicted for Tax evasion… do you remember when he hit a reporter with a golf ball at a swing on the fairway……. Don’t forget that the Democrats had Tammany Hall, the Boss got busted too. I think a lot of very influential family’s won elections with his help, hell who knows, maybe more dead people voted for them than LBJ, unlikely but possible.
Ike, did have his good points too. At least he did not back down, but he was not as dismal of a failure as the dead president on the 50, what did he do other than foster Northern aggression to a new height? He was not Lincolns first choice as Grant had a hard time making decisions. Believe this or not, but Lincoln actually micromanaged the war in almost every step. Now, I am still not a fan of Lincoln, but he seemed to understand the concept of business as did Jefferson. He also bankrupted a number of them before finally winning his first public office. I have read he had a high pitch voice and that was why he was considered the winner of the debates. I could even state that if reincarnation happened, he could have been him, Jefferson that is.
The modern republican party is a conscious repudiation of Eisenhower and everything he stood for or did: Public works, civil rights, upholding the supremacy of federal law, skepticism of over militarization, distaste for mcarthyism, reconciliation with the new deal.
Never liked his vice president that much though.
Blouise,
I submit that the last good Republican was Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Anyone who said, “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist” clearly knew what was going wrong and what to do about it.
I blame his experience as a wartime General for “ruining him” as a Republican. He had reality poisoning. š
… admittedly, they always wore funny hats so teabag fringed straw hats are in keeping with the good ‘ol days …