There has been a huge award in a novel malicious prosecution case over the alleged theft of pet turkeys. In 2004, defendant Ralph Dupps accused Robert and Jennifer Klippel of turkey-napping their pets and then releasing them back into nature. While the charges were dismissed, the Klippels sued and were just awarded $4.25 million
They claim that the ordeal drove Robert Klippel to alcohol and drove Jennifer Klippel to the use of sleep aids and depression medication.
What is fascinating is that this is a lawsuit against the Dupps as opposed to the state.
The turkeys had been a long dispute over their scaring Robert Klippel’s son and defecating in the Klippel yard. A police officer allegedly suggested just shooting the birds. The Klippels admit that they took the turkeys to a wildlife preserve. The Dupps then went to police who issued warrants for petit larceny on the Klippels who spent 10 hours in jail.
The case involved arguments under nuisance and the right of owners to take such actions. The jury obviously agreed.
Source: IslandPacket
Whatever the branch … I’m still thinkin’ drones
Bob,Esq.
No, not really. The Marine corp is a distinct branch of the Navy. They were around even before the Constitution was ratified and adopted by all 13 Colony’s. The Marines Celebrate Nov 10 but this has only been since 1921.
If I understand correctly the Marines get a separate appropriations just like the air force. I think that the navy was to transport any personnel that needed going….But the Navy has its own Air force as well, just like the Army has its own Air force and ships for limited purpose.
Anymore nothing is really distinct…except for the name(s) there are so many cross overs. I do not believe that the Air Force has any ships, but I may be wrong.
AY: “There are only two Constitutional Armed Forces. The Army and Navy.”
I understand the argument about recognizing the Air Force as a distinct entity apart from the Army, but I’m pretty sure the classic understanding of the Navy always included Marines.
No?
The Marines are an Unconstitutional force of the United States which is a Division of the US-Navy. There are only two Constitutional Armed Forces. The Army and Navy. There is One Statutory branch of the Armed Forces which greatly exceeded its scope and Jurisdiction during Vietnam and is called the Coast Guard…when the Conflict Funding was being cut……Its main purpose is to protect the US and its possessions…
The Marines are a division of the Navy and the Air Force is a Division of the Army….Find the Air Force term used during WWII…..
you know harebell, I’ve been thinking about this …
It’s okay for me to criticize a teabagger but if you criticize a teadbagger then all of a sudden that teabagger becomes MY teabagger and I’ll figuratively whip your skinny ass with a blog of cat-o-nine tails words …
But to criticize the Marines is way, way over the line
See bud, there is one institution in America that still has the respect of the American people and that institution is the military. Oh, I’m not talking about the Pentagon or the fat cat generals smoking their cigars and sipping their brandy in the Officers’ Club. I’m talking about the boots on the ground, we’ll go where you send us and do our duty, men and women of the United States military. No cat-o-nine tails for that insult … I’m thinkin’ drones.
… or bluebellface or harebellface
harebell is a wildflower often called a bluebell … Harebells are native to dry, nutrient-poor grassland and heaths in Britain, northern Europe, and North America …
So I’m going to hypothesize (a proposed explanation for an observable phenomenon, don’t yell at me, Slarti), given his choice of alias and the subject matter of the link introduced by mespo that got all this going, that our poster is from Great Britain, maybe even Scotland and to reveal his “home” would weaken his argument that trashing America and Americans is justifiable given their actions upon the world stage. (A Brit telling us that would be laughed off the blog)
“they may take our lives…. but they’ll never take our FREEDOM!!” (Braveheart in blueface)
Hairball:
where are you from? I think it is a legitimate request. I am guessing by your reluctance it must be a middle eastern country or possibly France which has never met a dictator they didn’t like.
Probably France, I wouldn’t like the US either if they had bailed my ass out of 2 conflicts and more to the point made me fight against my inclination for sycophancy toward all things German.
We do have a good many problems as a country but generosity of spirit and a willingness to help others in times of need is not on that list.
By the way Marines don’t retreat, they just exchange strategic positions. Before you go bad mouthing Marines, maybe you ought to read up on some of their battles and their history.
(posted here and on another thread)
For those interested in philosophy and especially the article of “faith” within a philosophical stance, I highly recommend SIMON CRITCHLEY’s column in today’s NY Times Opinionator section.
An excerpt:
“Thus, paradoxically, non-Christian faith might be said to reveal the true nature of the faith that Christ sought to proclaim. Even — and indeed especially — those who are denominationally faithless can have an experience of faith. If faith needs to be underpinned by some sort of doctrinal security, then inwardness becomes externalized and the strenuous rigor of faith evaporates.”
Note: Simon Critchley is an English philosopher currently teaching at The New School. He describes himself as a non-Christian and occasionally sports an ascot.
Considering all the discussion we have involving the subject of religion, I thought his column might be thought provoking for some of the posters.
“I would like you to gather all the money, scientific innovation, cultural icons, and plain old saved asses around the world and return them to our shores.”
Go mespo! My hero!
harebell:
My, my, I see all the world’s problems “project” from our shore. Given your level of animus which you contend is widespread based on your status as self-proclaimed “citizen of the world,” (no arrogance there, eh, Napoleon) I would like you to gather all the money, scientific innovation, cultural icons, and plain old saved asses around the world and return them to our shores. Then you and yours can go back to worshiping cows, or killing folks from other tribes, or whatever manner of barbarism we (or some other Westerner) taught you to dispense with. You can also heap mounds of caterwauling criticism our way without the fear of being identified as the hypocrites you are. He who pays the piper calls the tune. I’ll take “Moon River” there, harebell.
Blouise
I`m not interested in bashing you. I`m human I mess up, I fully appreciate others do too. I just hate it when folk project their own failings on others. The catholic church are hypocrites, they moralise about the inadequacies of others and claim a moral high ground that they are not entitled to. The US does likewise when disaster strikes at home due to the appetites of the US citizen but ignores the carnage abroad in the same cause. That level of hubris has to be re-evaluated by the average American.
One culture? Try living in a different country on a different continent every three years. It makes you a citizen of the world.
Rafflaw
Irregardless of what `my country` might have done to others or received from yours, how in anyway does that justify how your country treats others and the rights of others? Yours is the argument of the playground.
As for discussing the totality of the performance of the USMC in Afghanistan, that really wasn`t what you claimed was it?
By the way, the Marines never run away. Never have and never will.
“Frenzied escape“ kind of carries the message to me. Oh by all means wave your hands, but you might try actually dealing with what you claimed.
harebell,
Marine worship?? I never stated that Marines weren’t human. I never stated that they never made mistakes. I just confronted your claim that the Marines were running away. It is not a disgrace to retreat and regroup. If they made mistakes, they acknowledge them. If you want to discuss the total performance of the Marine Corps in Afghanistan, I know the bottom line will be a successful one. Let’s discuss your armed forces and compare the effectiveness and professionalism to the US Marines and the rest of our armed forces. That is one of the reasons why it would be useful to know where you reside and call home. We could review your country’s policies and how they are being handled currently and historically. We could also investigate how much aid your country has received from the United States and what that has meant to you and your countrymen. Don’t run away. Just open up and let us know who we are being compared to.
harebell,
The complexities of the cultures within the United States is difficult for someone coming from a country where one culture dominates. In attempting to discuss and or explain our actions, it helps to know which nation you call home.
However, if all you are interested in is bashing us, then have at it and I won’t interrupt you ever.
rafflaw,
Semper Fi
Yeah Raflaw
Why should where I am from matter? Good, honest behaviour is good, honest behaviour. Being human is something that transcends national boundaries.
As for your Marine worship:
“The marines made a frenzied escape, opening fire with automatic weapons as they tore down a six-mile stretch of highway, hitting almost anyone in their way – teenage girls in fields, motorists in their cars, old men as they walked along the road. Nineteen unarmed civilians were killed and 50 wounded.”
Sounds like a well planned withdrawal to me.
By then a US army colonel had admitted to the Afghans that the shootings were a “terrible, terrible mistake” and “a stain on our honour”. He paid $2,000 to the families of each victim. The special forces commander in Afghanistan, Major General Francis Kearney, ordered the marines to pull the 120-man company out of the country, an unprecedented step.
Care to revisit your hubris laden statements?
Oh and what was that you were saying about facts?
Blouise, Well said!
“Harebel should tell us where he is from so that we can discuss the good and bad that the US has brought to his/her respective homeland.” (rafflaw)
I would agree with the above
and:
Let us not forget that it was the Marines who came up with the program that started to turn things around in Iraq … other highfalutin characters have tried to take credit but it was the boots on the ground Marines that turned the tide with one, simple, good idea.
AY, Thanks for your insights. I try to hold onto the fact that there are too many good people in this country to let evil prevail — I hope it holds true. (And I agree that we can learn from all of those we encounter — the good and the bad. Sometimes, if we’re open to it, we learn the most from the bad encounters/experiences.)
I think of Anthony Wiener’s comment recently about the naivete of Democrats. To paraphrase he said that Democrat’s need to learn that they can’t take water pistols to gun fights. This last point is, perhaps, a non sequitur — I can’t seem to find the transition, though there may be one.
Signing off for the third or 4th time today. A busy work-week ahead of me, coupled with a raft of personal business.
Many good people here. That I know. (Did I already say that? :-))
There are some good folks out there. I have learned and learned it the hard way there are just two types of people out there. It is not the good and bad people because they can even teach you lessons that you need to learn. They are the ones you are happy to see when they come and there are those you are happy to see go…..sometimes they can be one in the same…..