Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani’s lawyer has gone public with an allegation that his client was severely beaten and tortured before her public confession to being an accomplice to the murder of her husband. Previously, the woman was sentenced to stoning for adultery. After international outcry, Iran added the murder charge.
Her confession was carried on Iranian television from Tabriz Prison.
The lawyer fears the Iranians will move quickly now to kill her. The government changed her death sentence from stoning to hanging as a humanitarian gesture.
These lawyers are a brave lot and put themselves at great risk in this case. A prior lawyer, Mohammad Mostafaie, was forced to flee Iran this month after Iranian officials issued an arrest warrant for him and detained his wife. He is now safely in Norway.
Source: Guardian
D. Effining 1, August 12, 2010 at 7:48 pm , I read your post…as a travel nurse I have a hard time believing it. I worked w/many a Canadienne nurse (they come here because they can shop and stuff for less$$$ and the pay is a tad better) and they were appalled at the conditions here even bEFORE the corporate takeover of our publicly built medical institutions.
I had not at the time experienced other-care but a trip to Germany and a trip to France belies what you are saying. In France, when a fellow traveller got sick, a DR. (that’s MD type doctor…not a Nurse practioner, not a Dr.s asistant)came to the hotel to see her and followed up the next day. Here, now that people have been exposed to other countries socialized medicine, the Dr.’s are formulating special client lists and calling it ‘cafe-services’ or somesuch thing. Even THAT is cheaper than scores of under and uninsured left flapping in the breeze by the current economy and corporate/business/graft friendly administrations.
Blouise 1, August 12, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I am not an Obama fan but … the man saved the American Auto Industry (or gave them the chance to save themselves) and in so doing quite possibly saved the manufacturing base of the nation.
I wanted a single payer option in the healthcare bill and didn’t come anywhere close to getting it but … that bill will help millions of Americans which is no small thing.
I’m not certain he is at all what he was hyped as being but … I believe he is trying to be
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yes, I agree. So soon we forget what everything looked loike BEFORE he was given the keys to the family car…I would like to see him compromise less but I don’t have all the facts and I know he has a bioethical ear , not sure Bush’s wasn’t just surgically attached by mr. Cheney etal…
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/james_standish/2010/08/the_great_ground_zero_mosque_hoax.html
I must say, most people live in the between the many extremes…the fundamentalist drecht is truly just mental…
Swarthmore mom 1, August 12, 2010 at 11:38 am
If people had voted for Gore, Bush would not have been able to put these policies in place.
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Sorry Swarthmore mom, people DID vote for Gore. If SCOTUS hadn’t been a pack of balless manipulating control freaks, we who knows, maybe the stew would be hotter…..:*
Eh, that is what we say here. The neighbour to the North. We have social medicine and so far it has not cost me very much. I have my leg, the foot not so much. It turned green and fell off. This was after a bunion extraction. I am getting a footy soon.
You would think that most of my neighbours are deaf too. They say eh all the time. I think that it is better to have a new foot than anything else. I hope I did not get myself in trouble with the medical person. When he asked if I would like that new footy, I said would I. The next thing I know they had me at the medical person that was looking at my right eye.
I suppose that if they are going to fit me with a new footy then I will not complain about then new eye. It looked funny when the ask if I would like it, of course I said would I and will let you know how that works out. Maybe they have a 9 Iron to match.
I know the medical person must fish. He said to the guy sitting next to me in the examining room, hey how did you catch that carpel tunnel. I am not much of a fisherman so I don’t know but that seems kind of strange that they would fish for Carp in a tunnel. Is that where you fish for carp?
I am not an Obama fan but … the man saved the American Auto Industry (or gave them the chance to save themselves) and in so doing quite possibly saved the manufacturing base of the nation.
I wanted a single payer option in the healthcare bill and didn’t come anywhere close to getting it but … that bill will help millions of Americans which is no small thing.
I’m not certain he is at all what he was hyped as being but … I believe he is trying to be
Gyge,
You are pissing in the wind. Where you sometimes find honey you also find a hollow trunk.
Jill,
It’s amazing to me that you can come to this site, read through all the critiques of the President and other prominent Democrats, that go on, and conclude that the majority of us “are indentiflying (sic) with left wing power mongers who harm people.”
I remember a conversation I had way back when… somebody (who was genuinely interested) asked me what I thought Bush did right. I wonder if that same person would be nearly as open minded about Obama.
The heretic is always treated worse than the infidel.
dear anonymously yours
well I am glad that you are interested in records management as a form of control of justice systems.
Here is a link to the Privacy Act
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5/usc_sec_05_00000552—a000-.html
For requested materials to qualify as “agency records,two conditions must be satisfied. First, an agency must “either create or obtain” the requested materials “as a prerequisite to its becoming an ‘agency record’ within the meaning of the FOIA.” Id., at 182. In performing their official duties, agencies routinely avail themselves of studies, trade journal reports, and other materials produced outside the agencies both by private and governmental organizations. See Chrysler Corp. v. Brown, 441 U.S. 281, 292 (1979). To restrict the term “agency records” to materials generated internally would frustrate Congress’ desire to put within public reach the information available to an agency in its decision-making processes. See id., at 290, n. 10. As we noted in Forsham, “The legislative history of the FOIA abounds with . .. references to records acquired by an agency.” 445 U.S., at 184 (emphasis added). Second, the agency must be in control of the requested materials at the time the FOIA request is made. By control we mean that the materials have come into the agency’s possession in the legitimate conduct of its official duties. This requirement accords with Kissinger ‘s teaching that the term “agency records” is not so broad as to include personal materials in an employee’s possession, even though the Applying these requirements here, we conclude that the requested district court decisions constitute “agency records.” First, it is undisputed that the Department has obtained these documents from the district courts. This is not a case like Forsham, where the materials never in fact had been received by the agency. The Department contends that a district court is not an “agency” under the FOIA, but this truism is beside the point. The relevant issue is whether an agency covered by the FOIA has “create[d] or obtaine[d]” the materials sought, Forsham, 445 U.S., at 182, not whether the organization from which the documents originated is itself covered by the FOIA materials may be physically located at the agency. See 445 U.S., at 157. This requirement is suggested by Forsham as well, 445 U.S., at 183, where we looked to the definition of agency records in the Records Disposal Act, 44 U.S.C. § 3301. Under that definition, agency records include “all books, papers, maps, photographs, machine readable materials, or other documentary materials, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made or received by an agency of the United States Government under Federal law or in connection with the transaction of public business. . . .” Ibid. (emphasis added).*fn5 Furthermore, the requirement that the materials be in the agency’s control at the time the request is made accords with our statement in Forsham that the FOIA does not cover “information in the abstract.” 445 U.S., at 185.
The court decisions and court issued documents are obviously not personal papers of agency employees. The Department counters that it does not control these decisions because the district courts retain authority to modify the decisions even after they are released, but this argument, too, is beside the point. The control inquiry focuses on an agency’s possession of the requested materials, not on its power to alter the content of the materials it receives. Agencies generally are not at liberty to alter the content of the materials that they receive from outside parties. An authorship-control requirement thus would sharply limit “agency records” essentially to documents generated by the agencies themselves.” United States Department of Justice v. Tax Analysts 109 S. Ct. 2841, 492 U.S. 136 (U.S. 06/23/1989)
Choices need to be made. The priest who abuses a child can be forgiven, loved, made offer into our homes, but he cannot stay as a priest. This same is true of Obama. Literally, he has abused a child, in fact, he has abused many children with his drones and his wars of empire, his military commission of a child soldier, his impoverishment of the people, cutting their food stamps. A choice then is to be made between the powerful abuser and the helpless abuse victim. To whom do we owe the greatest alligence? The priest or the child, the president or the child?
Love Obama if that is your choice, but the duty of protection goes to the innocent, not the guilty. Someone who abuses their power must have that power taken from them. That is how we protect the innocent. To give power to an abuser, to allow him to continue his abuse, is to consent and participate in that abuse.
Swarthmore mom,
Dennis has street smarts … he’s a good man.
Byron
1, August 12, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Blouise:
I quit being a republican about 5 years ago when I finally saw the light. The compassionate conservative crap was the last straw for me and the overarching influence of the religionists within the party.
Now I don’t have anyone I can vote for.
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I have several very good friends who are in your same boat. I have always contended that the desertion of the southern democrats to the republican side saved the democratic party and is steadily destroying the republican party.
One can no longer enjoy a healthy debate over fiscal matters, defense matters, social matters, because there are no real conservatives in the ring. They are all stuck outside the hall looking for representation.
Although my political philosophy is liberal, I could be persuaded to support a conservative idea when that argument was well reasoned and intelligently presented. Republicans used to be able to do that … as a party. No longer … a good conservative republican must first explain how he/she is not one of the crazies before even starting to present an idea.
Last year I heard an excellent plan for fixing healthcare … I’d have to go back through my notes to pull his name up … but he was a republican from the mid-west and serving in the House. He was shouted down (figuratively) by his fellow republicans and finally shut up … the next time I saw him he was touting the party line and I suspect he did so in order to obtain funds from the RNC for his next campaign.
I am quite sincere when I offer you my sympathies … it is my belief that the country has suffered from the loss of the intelligent conservative voice.
There are hundreds of thousands of you out there … everybody talks about a third party but it is the real conservative who desperately needs one.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/12/dennis-kucinich-wont-chal_n_679852.html Kucinich rules out challenging Obama and says liberals need to work together.
It’s always a pendulum swing. When the times are financially stable, liberalism has its swing. When the times are financially unstable, conservatism swings back. The pendulum never sits still on center.
@Swarthmore: “A few especially loud members of the far right are now calling for the repeal of the 14th amendment.”
Fixed that for you.
I don’t think liberalism is the dominant political philosophy anymore.
It because they tried to apply their philosophy liberally and we found out it’s all wasteful spending.
Blouise:
I quit being a republican about 5 years ago when I finally saw the light. The compassionate conservative crap was the last straw for me and the overarching influence of the religionists within the party.
Now I don’t have anyone I can vote for.
Jill:
“Choose the good. Look into the Green party or other parties who actually represent the people.”
how do they do that? From the polls I am seeing only about 40-45% identify themselves as liberal and only about 20% identify with the far left. That 20% in included in the 40-45%.
I don’t think liberalism is the dominant political philosophy anymore.
The republicans, as soon as all the angry southern democrats switched because of LBJ’s support for civil rights, have steadily lost their conservative thought and philosophy. I view the republican party as no more than a symptom, like a persistent dry cough signals the presence of lung cancer, of a very real sickness within our society. Those afflicted with the disease are drawn to the cough, those free of it are not.
http://www.statesman.com/opinion/texas-green-party-entangled-in-quite-a-mess-781437.html The Texas Green party is not that “good”. The democrats have a good candidate in Bill White. The greens took money from the republicans to get on the ballot. Khadr was 15 in 2002 when he was captured and tortured. When Obama took office in 2008, he was 21.