Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani’s lawyer has gone public with an allegation that his client was severely beaten and tortured before her public confession to being an accomplice to the murder of her husband. Previously, the woman was sentenced to stoning for adultery. After international outcry, Iran added the murder charge.
Her confession was carried on Iranian television from Tabriz Prison.
The lawyer fears the Iranians will move quickly now to kill her. The government changed her death sentence from stoning to hanging as a humanitarian gesture.
These lawyers are a brave lot and put themselves at great risk in this case. A prior lawyer, Mohammad Mostafaie, was forced to flee Iran this month after Iranian officials issued an arrest warrant for him and detained his wife. He is now safely in Norway.
Source: Guardian
Merriam-Webster tells me “plagerized” should be spelled “plagiarized”. Sorry. Live and learn.
On right wing blogs or websites or political parties, people are indentifying with right wing power mongers who harm people. That is easy for people on this site to understand. What is not easy for many people on this site to understand is that they are indentiflying with left wing power mongers who harm people. This is how good people allow bad things to happen to others. Today, Obama has given himself the power to harm a young person, who, by law, we were obligated to protect as a child soldier. This boy was tortured by us. Obama, instead of releasing this child back to Canada, ordered his continued imprisonment, argued to try him via military commission and has approved statements taken under torture to be used at his “trial”. By supporting Obama, one sanctions what he is doing. Ask in your heart if you would sanction and support Bush if he had done this. Then ask yourself, why you sanction and support it under Obama.
Millions of people vote for a third parties in other nations every year. We had two good third party choices in the last election, but people were afraid to take that route. Do not be afraid to vote for the good. Do not follow power mongers who harm others just because they are on the left, they are still power mongers doing harm to others. Choose something different, choose the good. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Choose the good. Look into the Green party or other parties who actually represent the people. Vote for them. Don’t be afraid. We can’t keep voting out of our fears. It’s time to vote, not for the supposed lesser of two evils, but for someone who will do right by the people.
Swarthmore mom
1, August 12, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Many republicans are now calling for the repeal of the 14th amendment.
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It’s their usual ugly election cycle talk and something that would be almost impossible to do (repealing the 14th … even amending it) which they know full well but are counting on the total ignorance of their followers … hunting down anchor babies and verbally clubbing them like seal pups appeals to the rank and file. Add mosque fright to the mix and top it off with crazy tax cut talk and big, socialist government warnings … amazing the number of blind fools who fall for it cycle, after cycle, after cycle. The only thing missing are the lights from the Homeland Security Advisory System.
SW Mom,
Yes, I escaped the asylum yesterday and was a free man until well, I wanted Ice Cream….went to the Doc and Blood Pressure is without meds 109/69 it used to be right about 180/120…..I wonder what the difference is…..lol….. At one time the top one was 189/119 and they said that I might wanna take meds for it. ….but as John Prine said…..if you see me tonight….it don’t cost very much…..but it lasts a long while….
Back to Obama….I am still not a fan, but because he is not as bad as Bush is in my mind and he is trying…I still wanna give him the Benefit of doubt…but what can I say…so far he has cleared up some perceived messes, but has not taken many steps towards the ‘WAR” which is not surprising all in of itself…I had said once we get in we’ll never get out. But so many people said but his daddy did it….well Iraq invaded Kuwait….and the entire world responded…oh wait…we invaded Iraq…..I think we are in trouble….
Kay,
Now you are raising issues that I am well versed in. Make sure that your information is absolutely correct or I will smack you down quicker that Dick Cheney Pulls a Trigger Quail Hunting…
I am really obsessed out about The Privacy Act and control of paperwork. When the Jews were exterminated there was a lot of paperwork. I saw on-line samples of records of intake of individual Jews into Auschwitz. There must have been paperwork associated with the alleged torture of “Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani”. To past legal muster in the U.S. not only would the systems of records have to be used for criminal justice reasons but the individual records must be, see 5 usc section 552a
A) information compiled for the purpose of identifying individual criminal offenders and alleged offenders and consisting only of identifying data and notations of arrests, the nature and disposition of criminal charges, sentencing, confinement, release, and parole and probation status;
(B) information compiled for the purpose of a criminal investigation, including reports of informants and investigators, and associated with an identifiable individual; or
(C) reports identifiable to an individual compiled at any stage of the process of enforcement of the criminal laws from arrest or indictment through release from supervision.
so the records associated with her movement to the torture room and following medical treatment if any and the assignment of the torture personnel wouldn’t fall into A,B, or C if this were the U.S. unless you consider torture to be “enforcement of the criminal laws” after arrest. If torture was needed to justify arrest, then why was she arrested? How can torture be justified as “enforcement of the criminal laws”?
I think the U.S. should position itself behind fair court procedure in all countries starting with being a good example.
In the US, 5 USC § 552. Public information; agency rules, opinions, orders, records, and proceedings
(1) Each agency shall separately state and currently publish in the Federal Register for the guidance of the public—
(A) descriptions of its central and field organization and the established places at which, the employees (and in the case of a uniformed service, the members) from whom, and the methods whereby, the public may obtain information, make submittals or requests, or obtain decisions;
(B) statements of the general course and method by which its functions are channeled and determined, including the nature and requirements of all formal and informal procedures available;
(C) rules of procedure, descriptions of forms available or the places at which forms may be obtained, and instructions as to the scope and contents of all papers, reports, or examinations;
(D) substantive rules of general applicability adopted as authorized by law, and statements of general policy or interpretations of general applicability formulated and adopted by the agency; and
(E) each amendment, revision, or repeal of the foregoing.
So if Iran had the same laws as the U.S. they would have to publish prisoner treatment manuals and
“Except to the extent that a person has actual and timely notice of the terms thereof, a person may not in any manner be required to resort to, or be adversely affected by, a matter required to be published in the Federal Register and not so published.”
One way for the U.S. to gain loyalty of Muslims is to advocate for their rights as individuals.
Many republicans are now calling for the repeal of the 14th amendment.
AY I guess you were out of your neighborhood yesterday. I like La Duni for Latin American food. Some people make hating on Obama their crusade. I started to like him when he was running for the Senate in Illinois but I was not a big supporter in the presidential primaries. I was not sure a person of color could be elected in this country.
I voted for Gore and then Kerry. SWM, I could not vote for Palin or Obama….I did not think that he was the right one for the job. I may have thrown my vote away, but I still voted. Now to vote for a Teabagger is a different story. That is voting to throw the rest of the constitution out and adopt soviet style policy’s. You are aware that the only difference between the Soviet Constitution is the 14 amendment and interpretation. It appears that the President over rides what the court does or says….In stead of singing O’ Canada the dissidents sang O’ Siberia….yes, Judges were not slain but were commuted to Siberia for the safety of the country….and people say Hugo is bad…..well, he has oil, and Cheney wanted it…so in the Big Oil Picture he is bad…..
But for now, the Tea Baggers to me are the equivalent of the next step to a Dictatorship… are we there yet?
If people had voted for Gore, Bush would not have been able to put these policies in place. Gore was not pure enough so people voted for Nader. It is my bet that in the end progressives will stick with Obama because they will rember what happened in 2000. Jill, you have tried to convince that the tea party is acceptble now Palin too?
Swarhmore mom,
Idiots are they way they are, because they are that way. Some are born that way and some just get that way….but never under estimate that Jesus Loves us all, but I happen to be his favorite…Just get used to it…
by the way, that was a great cuban sammy I had yesterday. I bought Bustello Supreme, one ground and a bag of cherry beans….
Jill– Yes.
Break the bond with the powerful, right wing or left wing. Be for justice, no matter what. (from Democracy Now)
“As Gibbs Attacks Progressive Critics, ACLU Says Obama White House Enshrining Bush-Era Policies
Gibbs
As White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs attacks progressives for comparing President Obama’s polices to George W. Bush’s, we look at a new ACLU report on how the Obama administration is permanently enshrining into law many of President Bush’s most controversial policies. The report, “Establishing a New Normal,” warns: “There is a very real danger that the Obama administration will enshrine permanently within the law policies and practices that were widely considered extreme and unlawful during the Bush administration.”
Think what it means to defend the indefensible. When anyone defends a powerful person’s abuse of others, they are siding with the aggressor. They are taking the side of the powerful over the harm done to the powerless. This is what happens in the Catholic church, for example, when followers defend the priests who abused children. They become enraged that anyone would tell the truth about the abuse. They defend the priest and ignore what he’d doing to the child. This is called identification with the powerful.
People in our society don’t have much power, so we tend to try to grab it by latching on to others who have it. The tea baggers latch on to right wing power mongers, and liberals are latching on to left wing power mongers. In the meantime, ordinary people suffer. Cut the cord. No more being on the side of power, either right or left. Be on the side of those who need our help. When Obama commits injustice call him to account, just as you would any right wing power monger. To do anything less, is to be on the side of injustice.
“Camp Justice”??? HA! HA! HA! At Guantanamo??? HA!HA!HA! How about naming the torture room the “Happy,Happy,Joy,Joy Room”? (Plagerized from Stimpy the Cat).
Khadr was captured and tortured in 2002. I think Bush was president. You will get another chance to vote for Palin at least in the primaries.
Why don’t we just let Iran join hands with us, we’re just alike: “Canadian defendant Omar Khadr attends his hearing in the courthouse for the U.S. military war crimes commission at the Camp Justice compound on Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base in Cuba, August 9, 2010. JANET HAMLIN/THE CANADIAN PRESS
08.11.10 – The judge at the Guantanamo trial of Canadian Omar Khadr, 15 and seriously wounded at the time of his capture, has ruled as admissible evidence the confessions Khadr made under threat of being gang-raped to death. His lawyer Dennis Edney reported Khadr said of the hearing, “We’re embarrassing ourselves by being here,” which seems a remarkably dignified way of putting it.”
That president Palin sure is a bad person. If we had elected Obama, this wouldn’t be happening.
And on another note: Closer to the US….
Omar Khadr, Bradley Manning and Our National Psyche
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion/159-159/2645-omar-khadr-bradley-manning-and-our-national-psyche
I am just amazed that the IRS was not called to investigate the Attorneys…Ask Wille about smokin weed on the Whitehouse?
And how much different are the Attorney’s for the “Terrorist” being treated in the US?
Lawyers Who Defend Terrorists, the Most Hated People in America
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/lawyers-defending-terrorists-stress-case-hated-people-america/story?id=9531235
I think the Iran case is a distinction without a difference. I read some where that 3 attorneys have had financial audits by the DOJ and State Bars. The Federal Judge said that if they found any credible information he would issue a subpoena as well. But not until some credible proof was presented that the attorneys appointed to represent the detainees were guilty of anything but giving the client there day in court.