Today is the day for Fox News commentator Glenn Beck to share his dream on the anniversary of Martin Luther King’s famous speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.
King delivered his “I Have A Dream” exactly 47 years ago and will now be the scene of Beck and his followers offering their own “dream.” The article below describes supporters wearing telltale teeshirts with Palin’s name that the legend “Babies, Guns, Jesus.”
Here is another tee-shirt from the rally:
Some accounts are almost biblical of Beck’s role in reshaping America. Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey explained “[w]e see Glenn Beck as a guy who is bringing revelations of understanding to the American people.”
Revelations by St. Beck will commence this afternoon.
Source: Bloomberg
Bdaman
“there are a lot of folks who, because they can deal with a lot of complicated issues at once, work pretty effectively” If you think that pertains to “lefties” and President Obama’s abilities, I’d be inclined to agree with you. Also about the smarter part.
But maybe you can tell me the answer to something I’ve been wondering about. Mr. Bush successfully cut taxes, for the wealthy only, in 2003. The stock market, instead of bounding higher, plodded along at 2.5% per year, until 2008 when it decresed by 34%.
If tax cuts for the wealthy means they will spend on investments, why didn’t it happen? Why didn’t the stock market boom during those years? And why did it boom during the Clinton years (189% compared to Reagan’s 10when taxes were raised?
GE is run by Jeffery Immelt a known democratic fund raiser and democratic supporter. Yep, GE sure does bring good things to light. Just like most socialists, they never miss an opportunity to start a war or fund one.
“….and work pretty effectively by saying don’t worry about the economy I’ll deal with that later…”
Well, let’s see how Mr Obama has dealt with the economic disater which is the direct and exclusive result of the last thirty years of failed Conservative policies. The Obama administration supported the states with money to allow them to continue to employ teachers, police and fire personnel saving tens of thousands of jobs; underwriting GM thus saving hundreds of thousands of jobs; provided stimulus dollars to new and emerging industies thus creating new jobs, providing employers with a $5000 tax credit for hiring people and a tax break inside the stimulus bill for everyone making under $250K, I’d say the government and the President have done quite a lot to stimulate the economy. By saving and creating those jobs fewer homes are threatened with foreclosure, local retailers continue to get revenue to keep their doors open and families stay intact.
I guess conservatives WANT the unemployment figure to be much higher than it is. What they’re telling us by their actions is that we should vote for them so we can have their desired unemployment rate of 15%-20% and then allow them to cut off benefits asap.
What has the GOP done to help? Blocked unemployment benefits which are the lifeline of the middle class until industry gets off it’s ass and supporting corporations over people once again, begged to continue the tax breaks to those who caused the economic calamity.
What has the business community done? They took millions of jobs out of the market and thus the incomes families used to spend at other businesses. Right now, corporations are cash rich and not hiring. They continue to spite the American worker by padding their bank accounts at the expense of jobs.
So, what should be done now? The government could essentially reinstste the CCC and the WPA from Roosevelt days. That would provide jobs and incomes, but would baloon the debt. Or the government can give more tax breaks to the same businesses and the same wealthy people who are hanging onto cash and not hiring workers.
It is the height of arrogance (nothing new for conservatives) to ask for more tax breaks while knowing they are a primary cause of our huge debt and while claiming companies aren’t profitable. If they’re not profittable, they don’t need breaks. If they are profittable, they should be hiring and using the tax credit already provided. Additional tax breaks would be equivilant to paying ransom to the robber barons’ demand for more special treatment at the expense of the middle class and would balloon the national debt.
The responsibility to create jobs is now up to industry.
Yeah, it’s not as if MSNBC isn’t owned by General Electric. You know GE, right? “We bring good things to light . . . so we can bomb the Hell of them.” GE is one of the biggest defense contractors in the world who doesn’t really need to use their news outlet for pro-war propaganda because they can let Rupert pick up the tab on that front. The same organization that provides that oh so necessary contrast and an “enemy” for the FAUXNews to “shoot at”.
But that’s a nice false equivalence you’ve got there, Creepers.
Be a shame if something were to happen to it.
Like if people were to read it for the Neocon spinning dog shit it is. The propaganda equivalent of “I know you are but what am I?” Of course corporate owned news is propaganda. That’s why the intellectually honest do not rely upon a single source for their news but rather synthesize their world view by getting as much information as possible from as many sources as they can before sorting the truthful wheat from the fascist chaff.
all news is propaganda now days. why do you think the other networks appeal to democrats? Same reason Fox news appeals to conservatives. It gives them the news colored by their philosophical and political beliefs.
Keith Olbermann is every bit the churl that Glen Beck is except he spouts left wing bullshit vs. right wing bullshit. And Rachel Maddow is not a brilliant woman any more than Bill O’Riely is a brilliant man. They are both sophists and any truly educated person could tear either one of them a new intellectual asshole.
I am not a fan of George Bush. I can promise you that. I remember hearing him say…I am a consensus builder….I can work with either party and we can do things together…..
What he forgot to tell you was….He meant I am a contentious bastard, either we do it my way or you will suffer greatly at the polls because of my connections that will finance anything I want to do, to get you out of office. What he did not count on was….losing both branches of the legislature while in office. What George has done for the party he has also done to Washington, D.C.
What everyone else seems to forget is that immigrants have a right to be here as much as we do. Just because, you were here before they were does not mean that you have a better right to be here. I can think of say…..oh…the Muslims and Spain…the Jews and Spain…The Jews and Germany….the Gypsies or the true Roma’s of the Aryan Race that Hitler was attempting to build, you see they were dark haired, maybe olive complected and brown eyes…they did not match the blond haired, blue eyed, white skinned race in the mind….damn…..this soap box is too high for me to see over…..
Actually, FOX themselves have made clear they aren’t a news organization but rather are a propaganda organization.
Fox News’ corporate parent gave Republican Governors Association $1 million
“August 16, 2010 5:52 pm ET by Matt Gertz . . .
Bloomberg News reports today (h/t Daily Kos’ KingOneEye) that News Corp. — the media giant which owns Fox News and The Wall Street Journal — has donated $1 million to the Republican Governors Association, the GOP organization that helps coordinate Republican gubernatorial campaigns and pays for independent ads in support of their candidates.
Media Matters has confirmed Bloomberg’s report using publicly available IRS filings. We also found no evidence of corresponding donations to the Democratic Governors Association in the current political cycle. News Corp. wants Republicans elected to office, and they’re willing to spend money to make it happen.
According to the article, News Corp. is actually the RGA’s “biggest corporate donor.” Bloomberg suggests that News Corp. has made these donations due to their opposition to “proposed federal rule changes that would weaken the position of its Fox network in negotiations with cable companies,” stating that “Governors may have a stake in the issue.”
Whether or not that is the case, this large corporate donation to the GOP underscores News Corp.’s role as an appendage of the Republican Party.
UPDATE: Politico’s Ben Smith has received the following quote from a News Corp. spokesman: “News Corporation believes in the power of free markets, and the RGA’s pro-business agenda supports our priorities at this most critical time for our economy.” They’re not trying to hide it anymore. As the coverage of its media outlets indicates, News Corp. supports the Republican Party’s platform. It’s just now started putting its money where its mouth has long been.
Sixteen months ago, we drew attention to Fox News Senior Vice President Bill Shine’s characterization of his network as the “voice of the opposition.” Ever since, we’ve been demonstrating how the network has been living up to his words.”
___
propaganda \ˌprä-pə-ˈgan-də, ˌprō-\, n.,
2: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one’s cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect
Bdaman,
“You know Ms. Elaine Fox News is really not a news organization.”
Not unless you consider propaganda news. Fox News–aka Pravda of the US.
😉
You know Ms. Elaine Fox News is really not a news organization.
David Axelrod said that the Fox News Channel is “not really a news station” and that much of the programming is “not really news.”
I think the administration has made that perfectly clear.
Bdaman,
In regard to the Journolist controversy:
From the Washington Post (7/25/2010)
Journolist flap shows a destructive ‘gotcha’ mentality
By Kathleen Parker
Sunday, July 25, 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/23/AR2010072304131.html
(Note: Kathleen Parker, the author of the Post article, is a conservative.)
Excerpt:
On the question of context, I have room only for one example, but more can be found on Klein’s blog on washingtonpost.com.
One of the most widely circulated is that these lefties were conspiring to get the government to shut down Fox News. Well, one member — a UCLA law professor no one ever heard of (Jonathan Zasloff, sorry) — did write something to that effect. But it was a query about whether the Federal Communications Commission could pull the network’s broadcasting permit once it expires for, in liberals’ view, espousing a political agenda.
Whereupon, Michael Scherer of Time responded:
“You really want political parties/white houses picking and choosing which news organizations to favor?”
Even so, the headline was that liberals want to shut down Fox News, which is not precisely an accurate rendering of a non-conversation. There was no further discussion on the subject at Journolist.
Scandalous? Sure, if you want it to be. If you pull a few remarks from tens of thousands posted by 400 people over a few years, you can frame a debate any way you wish. If you pull a mean quote about Rush Limbaugh, you’ve got Limbaugh time. Throw in Karl Rove, Fox News and Sarah Palin, and you’re golden — for a little while.
But then the news cycle moves on, and maybe next week you’ll be the one being hunted.
In the meantime, we have to ask ourselves: Are we better off never having the ability to speak offhandedly among friends, to say in private what we could never say in public, to think aloud and uncensored?
Obama is left handed, back handed as well in my opinion. But from the article.
“That’s why athletes do so well when they’re left-handed. And there are a lot of presidents who have been left-handed, and there are a lot of folks who, because they can deal with a lot of complicated issues at once, work pretty effectively,” he says.
So maybe this is why he plays so much hoops and swings the club so much, because he can deal with a lot of complicated issues at once and work pretty effectively by saying don’t worry about the economy I’ll deal with that later, I have to many other things on my plate.
I know Buckeye thats one of the reasons I brought that up. I know it’s talking about hands but when you read the article forget that for a moment and replace left and right hands for left and right political stances.
‘An increasing number of politicians claim that preplanned, prenatal trickery is afoot. ‘http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-08-23/news/ct-talk-terror-babies-0824-20100823_1_babies-pregnant-foreign-women-terror
===============================================================
that line makes me laugh….that sort of behaviour is nothing new. On every level.
Methodology
astride ladders
leading nowhere
hard worn hands
in orchard trees
pick apples
pears and cherries.
lower to ground
nimble fingers
and bended knee
pluck berries
onions and lettuce fields.
upright others
calloused feet
trod acre and acre
of row upon row
culling winery vines
tomatoes and beans.
under cornucopias of uncertainty
migrant women hidden
amid their produced labor
bear anchor baby
legacies through looking
glass bottom ceilings
~E J Levin
I hope the great P’sTB aren’t helping to make the manner and kind of Country that these people, (who we depend upon to do so much for us), are fleeing. That would be a cold and cruel slap in the face wouldn’t it…..
Ms. Elaine let us not forget the Journolist controversy.
Geeba Geeba,
Forced as I am to live in the real world with observable facts and documentable results it is not that I think I am smarter than you it is that the last 40 years have shown anyone willing to look some obvious truths.
We have had 4 decades of tax cuts, deregulation and enforcement neutering, What has that gotten us? A better society? More jobs? More wealth? A healthier country? NO, no, no nope no. It has gotten us to a much worse place than your assumptions for the miracle of low taxes, small government and unregulated greed would take us. These are observable facts, it does not mean I am smarter than you but ti does mean I actually pay attention to what is actually happening in the country instead of taking the word snake oil salesmen.
I got in a fight one time with three guys. Every time I went to punch one the other would sucker punch me from behind. Wasn’t much of a fair fight but lucky for me the cops showed up.
Does anybody have a count on how many people showed up to march with Big Al?
Bdaman,
I don’t believe everything I read–even in liberal newspapers. I often find statistics questionable. I think one needs to learn to read “between” the lines. The contributions tracked were only made by people from three TV networks (ABC, NBC, CBS)–so I wouldn’t call it an inclusive study of political contributions made by people who work in all the news media.
From the article: “The Democratic total of $1,020,816 was given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks, with an average contribution of $880.”
**********
Why, Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. alone contributed a whopping $1,000,000,000 to the Republican Governors Association. There’s plenty of political money to spread around to both parties…doncha think?
Bdaman
I don’t know who Dr. Oz is or how much credence to place in his theory, or why it has any place in this discussion, but Mr. Obama is left-handed, if that helps.
A diferent view of whats going on here,in a different context:
Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots: Stop Your Demagogy About The NYC Mosque!
By RonPaul.com on August 20, 2010
Congressman Ron Paul today released the following statement on the controversy concerning the construction of an Islamic Center and Mosque in New York City:
Is the controversy over building a mosque near ground zero a grand distraction or a grand opportunity? Or is it, once again, grandiose demagoguery?
It has been said, “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.” Are we not overly preoccupied with this controversy, now being used in various ways by grandstanding politicians? It looks to me like the politicians are “fiddling while the economy burns.”
The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque.
Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be “sensitive” requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from “ground zero.”
Just think of what might (not) have happened if the whole issue had been ignored and the national debate stuck with war, peace, and prosperity. There certainly would have been a lot less emotionalism on both sides. The fact that so much attention has been given the mosque debate, raises the question of just why and driven by whom?
In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.
They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice.
The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems.
The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11.
Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction.
This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.
There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to kill us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred?
If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable.
The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer.
Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses.
Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam–the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia.
It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty.
The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservatives’ aggressive wars.
The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam.
This is all about hate and Islamaphobia.
We now have an epidemic of “sunshine patriots” on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there’s no controversy and nobody is offended.
Political demagoguery rules when truth and liberty are ignored.