Senior Iranian cleric, Grand Ayatollah Nasser Makarem Shirazi, has denounced the Holocaust of Jews as nothing more than a “superstition” of the West. The cleric insists “[t]he Holocaust is nothing but superstition, but Zionists say that people of the world should be forced to accept this.”
Shirazi is a “marja,” one the highest authorities in Shiite Islam. He is also obviously a perfect lunatic. He added “Americans and Westerners are affected by newly appeared superstitions such as the Holocaust . . . The truth about the Holocaust is not clear, and when the researchers want to examine whether it is true or the Jews have created it to pose as victims, they jail the researchers.”
Source: Daily Mail
mespo,
Yeah but all those slave/warriors chained together as a protective barrier around the Caliph, if one buys into the legend, didn’t do a whole lot of good.
Rather telling that the French didn’t approve of Alfonso’s humanitarian treatment of Jews and Muslims so opted out and thus missed out on the victory.
The history of the Iberian Peninsula has always held my interest.
I am now beginning to see the value of the Reconquista and the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa in 1212.
Buddha,
I’m a tough guy!!
(I know you approved … I just wanted to get his words clumped together in boldface … I see a situation, I improvise … I’d make a good Marine except for the shooting part … and the taking orders part …)
XO
Blouise,
I have no issue with that. My statement was not meant as a criticism. You should know me well enough by now to know that I most certainly appreciate a good smack down of the ignorant and bigoted. jonolan pops up every so often with all kinds of nonsense and has since before I started posting here. Someone always smacks him down. Today was your turn. Sometimes it’s a glove across the face, sometimes it’s driving his head into the mat. I was impressed you opted for throwing him over the ropes and onto the concrete. 😀
Buddha,
There are some things about which I have strong feelings. If one is going to advocate annihilation of an entire group of human beings, as jonolan does with these words:
“It’s a Muslim; who cares what it jabbers? If it or others in its nest become too troublesome, exterminate them like any other disease-bearing vermin.” and ” …It is also not bigotry to recognize and not shy away from the proven fact that, as the civilized world measures such things, they are far less than human. Learn to accept harsh fact, act upon them swiftly and efficiently, and move on. Anything less is just being part of the problem or infection.” (nothing quoted out of context)
… then one should be prepared for rebuttal.
In all honesty. Buddha, my words were far tamer than my thoughts.
From Huffington Post
TNR’s Marty Peretz: Muslims Unworthy Of “The Privileges Of The First Amendment”
by jason Linkins
First Posted: 09- 7-10 11:22 AM | Updated: 09- 7-10 12:06 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/07/tnrs-peretz-muslims-unwor_n_707321.html
I had been wondering when I’d get to read some eye-popping quote on the Park51 controversy from racist idiot/New Republic editor-in-chief Marty Peretz, and today, I guess, is the day! Via Matt Yglesias:
“But, frankly, Muslim life is cheap, most notably to Muslims. And among those Muslims led by the Imam Rauf there is hardly one who has raised a fuss about the routine and random bloodshed that defines their brotherhood. So, yes, I wonder whether I need honor these people and pretend that they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse.”
Hey, from time to time, I harbor grave doubts about whether or not Peretz is worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment. But in the end, I suppose pornography provides a low bar for Peretz to barely clear. Meanwhile, here’s Imam Rauf: “Fanaticism and terrorism have no place in Islam. … There are always people who will do peculiar things, and think that they are doing things in the name of their religion. But the Koran is … God says in the Koran that they think that they are doing right, but they are doing wrong.”
So, there you go. I share Matt’s pity for the other contributors to The New Republic.
Members of the KKK openly identify with the Southern Baptist Convention. Does that make all Protestants KKK members or just all Southern baptists? During “The Troubles” in Northern Ireland, the IRA terrorists were virtually all Catholic. Does that then mean that no catholic churches or community centers should ever again be built in Ireland or England? On the opposing side were Protestants in irregular militia killing Catholics just for being Catholic. What then of these Protestant terrorists?
The late 19th century and early 20th century were marred by more Protestant bigotry fuelling anti-Catholics and then anti-Semite fervor. What is truly troubling is to see Catholics and Jews joining in the hate frenzy.
jonolan
I’m an atheist. I have no fondness for the adherents of any specific religion. I hold them all in the same questionable light. However, I abhor intolerance, bigotry and the kind of senseless hate which pours from your posts.
You do NOT speak for me or America or Americans. You speak in the factless, hyperbolic and demogogic language of other racists who represent nothing but who have the same desperate need for constant attention. Those are the facts you need to deal with and, I submit, through a mental health professional or by at least getting back on your medications.
Daaaaaaamn!
That was harsh, Blouise.
Accurate, but harsh.
jonolan
rcambell,
Just because you have a certain fondness for Muslims doesn’t mean that Americans do or that our despite for them is mindless.
It is also not bigotry to recognize and not shy away from the proven fact that, as the civilized world measures such things, they are far less than human.
Learn to accept harsh fact, act upon them swiftly and efficiently, and move on. Anything less is just being part of the problem or infection. (emphasis by Blouise)
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jonolan,
Are you for real!?
Our first war, King Philip’s War, brought out this need to dehumanize the enemy as the second generation Pilgrims referred to their former Native American friends as “heathen malefactors” thus legitimizing the enslavement of hundreds of Native Americans. Ironically, the “Pilgrim’s quest for freedom eventually resulted in the conquest and enslavement of another.” (N. Philbrick)
The enemies of America are not a race of people or a religious group … the enemies of America are individuals who must demonize their fellow human beings in order to see them as less than human and thus legitimize hatred. When fear grabs hold of any society there will always be those who need to see their enemy as subhuman.
From your own words I can easily surmise that you are one of those very frightened Americans who must view your enemy as subhuman in order to justify the next great cleansing. Yours is not a new tactic … among many others, Hitler used it very well on the Jews. You have more in common with Senior Iranian cleric, Grand Ayatollah Nasser Makarem Shirazi than you think.
And Muslims want to know why the west hates them? Even their clerics sound like Sarah Palin!
Rich words from one of billions who, in one form or another, believe that there is some guy hanging out from afar in the clouds. Some guy who created all and oversee’s all …
rcampbell – once again, well said, sir. It really doesn’t take much for the bigots to get their tighty-whitey’s in a bunch, does it?
rcambell,
Just because you have a certain fondness for Muslims doesn’t mean that Americans do or that our despite for them is mindless.
It is also not bigotry to recognize and not shy away from the proven fact that, as the civilized world measures such things, they are far less than human.
Learn to accept harsh fact, act upon them swiftly and efficiently, and move on. Anything less is just being part of the problem or infection.
I wonder if Grand Ayatollah Nasser Makarem Shirazi realizes that President Dwight D. Eisenhower personally visited at least one concentration camp upon its liberation, and ordered photographers to document the fact, precisely because:
Image — Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower inspecting Ohrdruf concentration camp. — National Archives: http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/media_ph.php?ModuleId=10006131&MediaId=3711
Is Grand Ayatollah Nasser Makarem Shirazi calling DDE a liar? Isn’t that at least as bad as insulting Mohmmad?
Grand Ayatollah Nasser Makarem Shirazi,
That’s pretty funny coming from a guy who bases everything on a 1400 year old book full of nothing but superstition. Oppressive superstition at that.
The Grand Ayatollah Nasser Makarem Shirazi sure knows how to yank American bigots’ chains, doesn’t he. One comment, not new by any stretch, and jonolan begins frothing and spewing it’s own brand of mindless hate. So predictable and so pathetically easily manipulated it’s little wonder that even mental lightweights like Beck and Limberger can stoke their hate into a mobbish fervor.
It’s a Muslim; who cares what it jabbers? If it or others in its nest become too troublesome, exterminate them like any other disease-bearing vermin.
Morning Blouise,
Ok, so walking under a ladder is unlucky, don’t cross the path of a black cat, the number 13 is unlucky…hmmm the English don’t have a 13th Street and a number of buildings do not acknowledge a 13th floor. FYI, it was Jesus and the 12 Disciples…..so I guess 13 is unlucky…Judas..where are you?
Yet…walking is an area, ordered to take your clothes off and then wait for your shower..only to be gassed…seems a little unlucky for some….or lucky depending on how you look at it…but to say that it never happened?….how much camel shit you been smoking? I hear they call the early morning mushroom on cow turds…turd blossoms…what do they call the shroom’s growing on camel turds? Is this where the song, by the real John came from Magic Carpet ride……
Censorship of ideas is based on fear of learning something distasteful.
Historically the fear of facts has grown into paranoia from time to time.
Even in our culture.
Time allows both healing and an increase in the fear of facts.
http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-do-you-identify-truther.html
Morning AY … it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood …
Senior Iranian cleric, Grand Ayatollah Nasser Makarem Shirazi, meet America’s Creationists … you all have a lot in common starting with the inability to grasp truth.