A new Gallup poll shows just how racially divided the country has become over the President. The poll shows a whopping 91% of Blacks supporting Barack Obama as compared to only 36% of Whites.
President Obama’s overall approval rating has stayed below 50% and some polls have him in the 30s. This poll shows him at 45%.
Democrats still like Obama by 79% and liberals are just slightly lower at 75%. The poll would suggest that liberals are not altering their views of the President despite his adoption of many Bush era policies, as discussed earlier.
Gallup shows failing popularity in every other demographic group beyond African-Americans:
57%. Hispanics: 55%. Moderates: 54%. Unmarrieds: 53%. Easterners: 52%. Women: 47%. Midwesterners and Westerners: 45%.
Beyond Whites in general, the worst groups are married citizens at 39% and seniors at 38%.
While the Administration has been trying to appeal to conservatives in various areas, it does not seem to be having an impact. Obama has a 23% popularity among conservatives. For Republicans, it is down to 12%.
Source: LA Times
Dr Pachuri head of the IPCC new the report on the Himalayan Ice Melt was incorrect but had it included in the latest IPCC report. Another lie from someone pushing an agenda of scientific consensus.
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According to a flurry of recent reports by the BBC and other mass media, the glaciers in the Himalayan mountains are melting at a furious pace. Of course this is taken as proof that climate change is still taking place at an ever accelerating rate, despite the fact the global temperatures have remained flat for the past decade. What, then, explains the rapidly retreating Himalayan glaciers? Nothing, because the glaciers are not shrinking. A new report by a senior Indian glaciologist states that the glaciers remain frozen and quite intact, thank you.
The report by Vijay Kumar Raina, formerly of the Geological Survey of India, seeks to correct widely spread reports that India’s 10,000 or so Himalayan glaciers are shrinking rapidly in response to climate change. It’s not true, Raina says. The rumors may have originated in the Asia chapter of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC’s) 2007 Working Group II report, which claims that Himalayan glaciers “are receding faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate.” Evidently, the bogus reporting was based on measurements from only a handful of glaciers.
Raina’s report draws on published studies and unpublished findings from half a dozen Indian groups who have analyzed remote-sensing satellite data or conducted on-site surveys at remote locations often higher than 5000 meters. While the report surveyed of a number of glaciers, two particularly iconic ones stand out. The first is the 30-kilometer-long Gangotri glacier, source of the Ganges River. Between 1934 and 2003, the glacier retreated an average of 70 feet (22 meters) a year and shed a total of 5% of its length. But in 2004 and 2005, the retreat slowed to about 12 meters a year, and since September 2007 Gangotri has been “practically at a standstill,” according to Raina’s report.
http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/himalayan-glaciers-not-melting
Bdaman,
This invalidates any conclusion insomuch as it was drawn from this particular graph. It’s (proper) removal from the scientific evidence doesn’t change the scientific consensus. The consensus may change in time (and my opinion is that if the consensus is wrong it will change much in much less than 40 years in this case) but it is what is is right now. You are essentially trying to make an arbitrage opportunity out of information that has already been factored into the market – if you tried that on Wall Street, you would loose your shirt.
This graph is the Hockey Stick Graph created by geophysicist Michael Mann. It is also called MBH98 after the three author Mann, Bradley, Hughes and from the year it was compiled 1998.
As you can see the temperature graph shows that the temperature just varied a few tenth of a degree before 1900. This graph was publish in the very prominent scientific magazine Nature and made quite a sensation. It was also prominent display in several places in the 2001 IPCC report, the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
It has now been removed from the latest 2007 IPCC report for policymakers because it has become to much of an embarrassment for the IPCC to include it.
http://www.global-warming-and-the-climate.com/mann%27s-hockey-stick-climate-graph.htm
The “Piltdown Man” is a famous anthropological hoax concerning the finding of the remains of a previously unknown early human. The hoax find consisted of fragments of a skull and jawbone collected in 1912 from a gravel pit at Piltdown, a village near Uckfield, East Sussex, England. The fragments were thought by many experts of the day to be the fossilised remains of a hitherto unknown form of early man. The Latin name Eoanthropus dawsoni (“Dawson’s dawn-man”), (after the collector Charles Dawson) was given to the specimen. The significance of the specimen remained the subject of controversy until it was exposed in 1953 as a forgery, consisting of the lower jawbone of an orangutan that had been deliberately combined with the skull of a fully developed modern human.
The Piltdown hoax is perhaps the most famous paleontological hoax ever. It has been prominent for two reasons: the attention paid to the issue of human evolution, and the length of time (more than 40 years) that elapsed from its discovery to its full exposure as a forgery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man
mespo72^3,
Echoing my sentiment on another thread, well said, I couldn’t agree more.
I would ask you why you believe that human activity is the cause and why you think that warming is not necessarily part of a never ending cycle. … I am a member of the Flat Earth Society.”
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When I am ill-equipped to render a decision due to my own lack of scientific knowledge about a subject, I tend to rely on the consensus of international scientific opinion. Is that absolute certainty? Why no, but it’s the rational approach to consider the views of men and women who know the issues, understand the legitimate countervailing arguments, and reach a judgment based on the greater probability of accuracy without resort to an agenda or political ideology. I call that “science in the Age of Reason,” and accept its judgments until better evidence comes along or the consensus changes. I don’t subscribe to the view that “everybody can’t be wrong,” but I do subscribe to the view that science is continually testing its assumptions and modifying its conclusions accordingly– a virtue I find utterly lacking in the opposite camp. Couple that with the fact that one makes a name for oneself in science by shattering the status quo ante with irrefutable and reproducible proof, and think I am standing on very firm ground indeed.
Even you would agree, I suppose, that the greater weight of the evidence and the overwhelming consensus of the world’s scientists is contrary to your Ursus-ian point of view. You would also likewise agree that no one has yet proven your counter-assertion to any degree of scientific probability. To the detractor then goes the burden of proof and the burden of persuasion, which I see they are unwilling to shoulder.
So yes, I do believe human activity is a major causative factor in the world’s evolving climate picture. Maybe not THE cause as few things truly are, but A major cause … sure. Can I be persuaded otherwise? Certainly, but I haven’t seen anything of merit that leads me to question the consensus yet.
Dr. Polar Bear,
I have my opinion at this point (as, obviously, do you) but it (unlike yours) is based on science and therefore always subject to revision in the face of evidence to the contrary and also to refinement as the system becomes better understood – you know, like ‘Global Warming’ -> ‘Climate Change’ -> ‘Global Climate Disruption’. Don’t you believe that changing one’s opinion to reflect facts is a good thing? In any case, I will always revise my opinion when presented with relevant information – you haven’t presented any information which requires me to change my mind (nor has Bdaman).
So essentially, you are accusing me of being close-minded (and hence unwilling to debate, I guess) and therefore refusing to answer my questions or engage in substantive debate even though I’ve indicated a willingness to engage substantively on the issue. To me, this indicates a somewhat ironic closed-mindedness of your own. Basically you are calling yourself a troll “That struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more: it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing”
Bdaman,
“Ms. Elaine don’t forget the termites, seriously.”
You mean the ones serving in Congress?
Bdaman,
Global Warming…Climate Change…Global Climate Disruption…
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It may be rice wine to you–but it’s sake to me!
Ketchup may be called a “condiment” by some–but others, at one time in our not-so-distant past, preferred to call it a “vegetable.”
Ms. Elaine don’t forget the termites, seriously.
Guys please, it’s not Global Warming, it’s not Climate Change.
It’s Global Climate Disruption. This is the Obama Administrations official name as per Sr. Science Advisor to the president, John Holdren.
If you wish for me to answer your questions please refer to the proper name so I know what we are talking about.
This is Change We Can Believe In.
I thought they would of used Man Caused Disaster but that replaced the act of terrorism.
Bdaman,
Cow Farts: Global Warmers Or A Load Of Hot Air?
http://www.show.me.uk/site/news/STO873.html
Cow farts collected in plastic tank for global warming study
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2274995/Cow-farts-collected-in-plastic-tank-for-global-warming-study.html
Bdaman,
In regard to the cause of global warming/climate change–we know who the real culprits are: COWS!
Here’s a little poem I wrote about flatulent bovines—as well as some links for you:
On the Flatulence of Cows and Global Warming
The dinosaurs farted.
And now it’s the cows—
Whose anal emissions
Waft into the air
Increasing the greenhouse
Gases “up there.”
In blissful abandon
Cows graze on green grass,
Mooing and chewing
And chewing and pooing—
All the while strewing
Brown pies everywhere.
These flatulent bovines…
These cud masticators…
Digestive polluters …
Toxic gas generators…
These methane producers
Seem harmless and charming.
But I’ve got the scoop—
On the cows and their poop:
They’re the primary cause
Of Earth’s global warming.
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Rep. Rohrabacher: Global Warming May Have Been Caused By ‘Dinosaur Flatulence’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/10/dino-flatulence/
Boehner Cites Cow Farts To Downplay Global Warming (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/19/boehner-calls-global-warm_n_188688.html
Bdaman,
In regard to the cause of global warming/climate change–we know who the real culprits are: COWS!
Here’s a little poem I wrote about flatulent bovines—as well as a few links for you:
On the Flatulence of Cows and Global Warming
The dinosaurs farted.
And now it’s the cows—
Whose anal emissions
Waft into the air
Increasing the greenhouse
Gases “up there.”
In blissful abandon
Cows graze on green grass,
Mooing and chewing
And chewing and pooing—
All the while strewing
Brown pies everywhere.
These flatulent bovines…
These cud masticators…
Digestive polluters …
Toxic gas generators…
These methane producers
Seem harmless and charming.
But I’ve got the scoop—
On the cows and their poop:
They’re the primary cause
Of Earth’s global warming.
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Rep. Rohrabacher: Global Warming May Have Been Caused By ‘Dinosaur Flatulence’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/10/dino-flatulence/
Boehner Cites Cow Farts To Downplay Global Warming (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/19/boehner-calls-global-warm_n_188688.html
Cow Farts: Global Warmers Or A Load Of Hot Air?
http://www.show.me.uk/site/news/STO873.html
Cow farts collected in plastic tank for global warming study
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2274995/Cow-farts-collected-in-plastic-tank-for-global-warming-study.html
your comments aren’t worth trying to substantively answer, you already have your mind made up. I prefer derision and humor in such cases. Why waste actual thoughtful effort?
Bdaman:
yah yah now it is climate change, they cant make up their minds. Is it going to get cold? Is it going to get hot? Who knows, we will just call it climate change so we can take the moral high ground in any argument and not have to worry about facts. After all who would not want to protect a cuddly little Polar Bear?
Dr. Polar Bear,
I see that you, like Bdaman, can’t substantively answer my arguments. Fortunately, you’ll probably go extinct before too long… Pppttthhhbbb! 😛
yah yah the spawn of the Nazi. control the people through fear yah yah good idea. ve vill try it first in callyforna.
Bdaman,
“Coldest summer in decades in Southern California – “Summer played hooky on us. We leaped from spring to fall,” said Bill Patzert, a climatologist for the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Canada Flintridge. It’s one of the coolest summers in decades.
LAX tied the coldest average temperature for August on record, going back to 1944, said Jamie Meier, a meteorologist for the National Weather Service in Oxnard. The Santa Barbara airport also broke a record for coolest August, she said.”
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Thanks so much! I’d say you’re providing proof that climate change is happening on this planet.
😉
“If 0.00004% of Californians die early due to airborne arsenic, what do you think that the number is for, say, heavily industrialized regions of China?”
Obama’s health care plan may work if enough people die before they need medical care.