-Submitted by David Drumm (Nal), Guest Blogger
Norwegian television has identified a suspect in the shooting spree on the island Utoya as Anders Behring Breivik, 32, describing him as a member of “right-wing extremist groups in eastern Norway.” The shooting at the youth camp has reportedly resulted in more than 80 deaths.
In his Facebook account, now deleted, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views. He also has a Twitter account with only one tweet, a quote from philosopher John Stuart Mills: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests.”
If the reports are accurate, don’t expect denunciations of right-wing extremism from Fox News. If the event in Norway had been caused by a Muslim, would Fox News classify it as a terrorist attack instead of a massacre by a madman?
The Wall Street Journal And Jerusalem Post Publish Editorials Saying Norwegian Terrorist Had A Point
By Zaid Jilani on Jul 25, 2011
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/07/25/277863/wsj-jerusalem-post-norway-terrorist-had-a-point/
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Pat Buchanan: Norwegian Right-Wing Terrorist ‘Breivik May Be Right’
By Tanya Somanader on Jul 26, 2011
http://thinkprogress.org/media/2011/07/26/279171/pat-buchanan-breivik-may-be-right/
Far be it from me, a Jew to defend “The Crusades” which were rife with pogroms and genocide as they marched through Europe toward their ships for the holy Land. However, Islam has forgotten that it initially attacked Europe, only to be checkmated by Charles Martel. In the wars bred by fundamentalism there is enough blame and atrocity to go around. Part of what keeps fueling it is the shortsightedness of those who’ve attacked.
In the US invasion of Cuba and the Philippines, for imperialist reasons the resistance of the natives was seen as savage harshness towards our humanitarian aims and justified savage response on our part. Those damnable Iraqi’s and Afghani’s, how primitively ungrateful they are in not accepting our generous and selfless assistance in trying to develop their natural resources.
Christian Terrorism
If Muslims are responsible for Islamic terrorism, are Muslim-bashers responsible for the massacre in Norway?
By William Saletan
Posted Monday, July 25, 2011, at 8:53 AM ET
Blogger Pamela Geller
On Friday, anti-Islamist blogger Pamela Geller pounced on news of a massacre in Oslo. “Jihad in Norway?” she asked. She posted a second item—”You cannot avoid the consequences of ignoring jihad”—and linked to a previous one: “Norway: ALL Rapes in Past 5 Years Committed by Muslims.” As the Oslo body count grew, she piled on: “if I hear another television or radio reporter refer to muhammad as ‘the Prophet Muhammad,’ I think I am going to puke. He’s not your prophet, assclowns.”
Then things went horribly wrong. It turned out that the suspected terrorist in Norway wasn’t a Muslim. He hated Muslims. And he admired Geller.
In a manifesto posted online, the admitted killer, Anders Behring Breivik, praised Geller. He cited her blog, Atlas Shrugs, and the writings of her friends, allies, and collaborators—Robert Spencer, Jihad Watch, Islam Watch, and Front Page magazine—more than 250 times. And he echoed their tactics, tarring peaceful Muslims with the crimes of violent Muslims. He wrote that all Muslims sought to impose “sharia laws” and that “there are no important theological differences between jihadists and so-called ‘peaceful’ or ‘moderate’ Muslims.” He reprinted, as part of the manifesto, a 2006 essay by “Fjordman”—a blogger whose work appears frequently on Geller’s site—which argued that “radical Muslims and moderate Muslims are allies” and that because Islam teaches deception, no Muslim who claims to be moderate can be trusted.
Scan Geller’s blog and her friends’ sites, and you’ll see how thickly these ideas pervaded Breivik’s online world. Jihad Watch says “Islam is intrinsically violent.” Islam Watch asserts that “terrorism … is the real Islam,” that “Islam is beyond alteration,” and that “it needs to be emasculated, marginalized or eliminated altogether.” Geller has published Fjordman’s views—”I do not believe that there is such a thing as a moderate Islam”—with her own proud note that “I have long derided the ‘moderate Islam’ meme as a theory with no basis in reality or history.” Four days before Breivik opened fire, she posted an item headlined, “Moderates vs. Radicals—What’s the Difference?” She joked that “one straps one on, and the other covers for jihad.” She concluded that “there really is no difference between muslims and radical muslims.”
Geller has pursued this line of attack most aggressively against Faisal Abdul Rauf, the imam who wants to build an Islamic community center two blocks from the site of the 9/11 attacks. Abdul Rauf, accused of radicalism by Geller and Republican politicians, has done everything possible to refute the charge. He has denounced al-Qaida as un-Islamic. He has said, “I condemn everyone and anyone who commits acts of terrorism. And Hamas has committed acts of terrorism.” He has invited the U.S. government to vet potential funders of his center. He has rejected the idea that Sharia overrides civil laws. And when U.S. forces killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan, the imam declared: “I applaud President Obama for his resolute efforts in the war against terror, including bringing Bin Laden to justice.”
Despite these statements, Geller continues to depict Abdul Rauf as a terrorist sympathizer. Her evidence is a series of secondhand, thirdhand, and nonexistent connections. “Rauf is an open proponent of Islamic law, Sharia, with its oppression of women, stonings, and amputations,” she asserts, falsely. He “was a prominent member of the Perdana organization, a leading funder of the jihad flotilla launched against Israel in 2010 by the genocidal Islamic terror group, IHH.” One of his books was supported by the International Institute of Islamic Thought and the Islamic Society of North America, which are “Muslim Brotherhood fronts,” and ISNA “was named an unindicted co-conspirator” in a “Hamas terror funding case.” Another Abdul Rauf book was promoted in Malaysia at a meeting of an organization that’s been banned in some countries.
You can use this guilt-by-association tactic against anybody. To take the simplest case: President George W. Bush sent Abdul Rauf to the Muslim world as an informal ambassador. That makes Bush a supporter of a supporter of terrorism. But the new poster child for guilt by association is Geller herself. She has been implicated in the Norwegian massacre.
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On Friday, Charles Johnson, an anti-Jihadist blogger, posted a headline calling Breivik a “Pamela Geller fan.” He cited evidence that Breivik was influenced by Geller and Spencer and had given “a great deal of money to the far right ‘counter-jihad’ movement.” Next came an item titled, “Oslo Terrorist Linked to … European Branch of Pamela Geller’s Hate Group.” Then a sharper accusation: “Breivik is a product of the groups and causes Pamela Geller continues to promote.” Johnson concluded that “in the Norway atrocities, the responsibility is far more evident and direct. People like Fjordman and Pamela Geller and the right wing blogosphere who spew apocalyptic rhetoric and refuse to denounce the extremists among them now have the very real blood of children on their hands.”
Geller is outraged. “Attempts to link us to these murders on the basis of alleged postings by the murderer mentioning us are absurd and offensive,” she writes. Breivik “is responsible for his actions. He and only he.” She adds: “Watching CNN and BBC coverage about Norway, I found very disturbing to hear the number of times they use the word ‘Christian.’ They would never dare refer to religion when it is jihad, and this attack had nothing to do with Christianity.”
Now you know how it feels, Ms. Geller. When the terrorist is a Christian—in his own words, a “Crusader” for “Christendom”—and when the preacher to whom he has been linked is you, you suddenly discover the injustice of group blame and guilt by association. The citations you didn’t create, the intermediaries you didn’t recognize, the transactions you didn’t know about, the violent interpretations you didn’t condone—these exonerating facts suddenly matter.
And the hypocrisy doesn’t end with Geller. It permeates the Republican presidential field. Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, and Newt Gingrich agree with Geller that no mosque should be built near Ground Zero. Herman Cain, in the style of George Wallace, just went to Murfreesboro, Tenn., to support local bigots who want to stop the construction of a mosque there. Rick Santorum told a Christian school audience: “The idea that the Crusades and the fight of Christendom against Islam is somehow an aggression on our part is absolutely anti-historical.” And Michele Bachmann defended a congressional inquiry into Muslim violence by pointing out that recently,
Two of our soldiers were gunned down in Germany, and the fellow who shot them shouted “Allah Akhbar” before he did that. And just the week before that, we had a 20-year-old from Saudi Arabia, here on a student visa in Dallas, who had accumulated all of the chemicals necessary to create a bomb on the order of the Oklahoma City federal building bombing. … If we don’t understand that there are Sharia-compliant terrorists in our midst … we will make ourselves more vulnerable.
Well, now we have a Crusade-compliant terrorist who has accumulated explosive chemicals, blown up a federal building with a bomb on the order of Oklahoma City, and gunned down scores of civilians. Don’t hold your breath waiting for Bachmann or anyone else in Congress to investigate the Christian angle.
The vindictive part of me wants to blame Geller and her ilk for what happened in Oslo. But then I remember something Abdul Rauf said: “The Quran explicitly states that no soul shall be responsible for the sins of another. Terrorism, which targets innocents who had no part in a crime, fundamentally violates this Quranic commandment.” That principle—that no one should be held responsible for another person’s sins—is the moral core of the struggle against terrorism. It’s the reason I can’t pin the slaughter in Norway on bloggers who never advocated sectarian violence. I just wish those bloggers, and the politicians who echo them, would show Muslims the same courtesy.
Mike,
“Is she related to Uri Geller, the guy who bends spoons with his mind?”
I believe the word you’re looking for is hands.
kderrhoid-
You said, “I see the regulars have lost focus on this one. Shame.”
Do you mean “lost focus on your depressing posts”?
It’s called “having fun”, kderrhoid, something people who aren’t manic depressive monomaniacs are able to do.
You should try it sometime- I’m sure you would hate it.
Norway Terrorist Is A Global Warming Denier
By Brad Johnson on Jul 25, 2011 at 11:00 am
Think progress
http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/07/25/277564/norway-terrorist-is-a-global-warming-denier/
Excerpt:
Inspired by climate denial pundits, right-wing Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik railed against global warming “enviro-communism” in his manifesto. Breivik — who confessed to killing 93 people in two attacks in Norway — published on the web a 1,500-page manifesto describing his Christian conservative conspiracy theories. In one section, “Green is the new Red – Stop Enviro-Communism!” Breivik argues that global warming is actually a eco-Marxist plot “to create a world government” using the “Anthropogenic Global Warming scam”:
You might know them as environmentalists, enviro-communists, eco-Marxists, neo-Communists or eco-fanatics. They all claim they want to save the world from global warming but their true agenda is to contribute to create a world government lead by the UN or in other ways increase the transfer of resources (redistribute resources) from the developed Western world to the third world. They hope to accomplish this through the distribution of misinformation (propaganda) which they hope will lead to increased taxation of already excessively taxed Europeans and US citizens.
Although Breivik’s conspiracy theories are insane, they are in line with mainstream opinion among American conservatives. He cites Christopher Monckton’s speech before the Minnesota Free Market Institute in 2009, accusing President Obama of trying to cede United States sovereignty to the United Nations through climate treaties. Monckton — a rabid conspiracy theorist who claims his opponents are Nazis — was a Republican witness before Congress on global warming in 2010.
Breivik also believed that the “Climategate” hacking incident “revealed how top scientists conspired to falsify data in the face of declining global temperatures in order to prop up the premise that man-made factors are driving climate change.”
One of his sources for this delusional claim is right-wing climate conspiracy theorist James Delingpole, who regularly appears on Fox News, including Glenn Beck‘s now defunct show. The Norwegian terrorist also cited climate conspiracy blogger Steve McIntyre, who appeared in a one-hour Fox News special on global warming in 2009. McIntyre’s conspiracy theories have been promoted by Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) and Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK). Dozens of Republican members of Congress have endorsed the Climategate conspiracy theory.
Kdnoid,
I can’t you used it all up….and besides, I read that the Koch’s are holding anymore shipments until the prices go up as much as petroleum…So as a perk in your job would you care to share some Tin Foil with the rest of the world…I would like to try the kind that does not stick…ok..
Anders Behring Breivik told a Norwegian judge on Monday his bombing and shooting rampage that killed 93 people aimed to save Europe from a Muslim takeover, and said that “two more cells” existed in his organization.
Breivik has previously said he had acted alone and police have said they have no other suspects in Friday’s attacks.
He said his bombing of government buildings in Oslo and massacre at a summer camp for Labour’s youth wing was aimed at deterring future recruitment to the party.
After the hearing, Heger (the judge) said he had ordered Breivik detained in solitary confinement for eight weeks, with no letters, newspapers or visits, except from a lawyer.
Full story here:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/25/norway-killer-tells-judge-two-more-cells-exist/
@AY, tinfoil hat, put it back on.
Pamela Geller:
Kdponzi,
Damn, which one fits you better…..
Scapegoating…..
Is the practice of singling out any party for unmerited negative treatment or blame. A scapegoat may be a child, employee, peer, ethnic or religious group, or country. A whipping boy or “fall guy” is a form of scapegoat.
Projection….
Unwanted thoughts and feelings can be unconsciously projected onto another who becomes a scapegoat for one’s own problems. This concept can be extended to projection by groups. In this case the chosen individual, or group, becomes the scapegoat for the group’s problems. ‘Political agitation in all countries is full of such projections, just as much as the backyard gossip of little groups and individuals’. Jung considered indeed that ‘there must be some people who behave in the wrong way; they act as scapegoats and objects of interest for the normal ones’.
In psychopathology, projection is an especially commonly used defense mechanism in people with the following personality disorders:
antisocial personality disorder: Check
borderline personality disorder: Check
narcissistic personality disorder: Check
paranoid personality disorder: Check
psychopathy: Check
Man o man….and how do you function on a day to day basis….Does your family still avoid you like the plague….Kdpanzee….
OS, I see you are still in denial.
raff,
I’m betting that sound you heard was George laughing. He had a notoriously good sense of humor.
Ooops! I meant John is turning over in his grave, although I guess George could be too!!
Good one Elaine! Yolko Ono! George is turning over in his grave with that one!
HenMan,
“ad hominem ad infinitem add two eggs and beat until fluffy.”
That sounds a lot like a recipe I found for ad hominem ad albumen in Yolko Ono’s cookbook.
😉
Is she related to Ross Geller of “Friends”?
Mike S.,
“Pam Geller is a conspiracy theorist.”
Is she related to Uri Geller, the guy who bends spoons with his mind?
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Pam bends the truth with her warped mind.
kderosa-
ad hominem ad infinitem add two eggs and beat until fluffy.
HenMan, you forgot to mention one of Pam Geller’s favorite conspiracies, the “forged birth certificate.” Then there is also the Trilateral Commssion. I am sure he is also charged with working that in too.