-Submitted by David Drumm (Nal), Guest Blogger
Norwegian television has identified a suspect in the shooting spree on the island Utoya as Anders Behring Breivik, 32, describing him as a member of “right-wing extremist groups in eastern Norway.” The shooting at the youth camp has reportedly resulted in more than 80 deaths.
In his Facebook account, now deleted, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views. He also has a Twitter account with only one tweet, a quote from philosopher John Stuart Mills: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests.”
If the reports are accurate, don’t expect denunciations of right-wing extremism from Fox News. If the event in Norway had been caused by a Muslim, would Fox News classify it as a terrorist attack instead of a massacre by a madman?
AY, You’re welcome. (I was going to say “Good morning”…, but it’s almost noon.)
rafflaw,
From Greenwald’s piece:
As a new ACLU report documents — one co-authored by former FBI agent Mike German — “We are now living in an age of government secrecy run amok.”
Some of the things that are going on in the U.S. right now can best be described as proto-fascist, IMO.
There’s a Secret Patriot Act, Senator Says
By Spencer Ackerman
May 25, 2011
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/secret-patriot-act/
It is so much worse than many realize, as I’ve said ad nauseum.
RatShit4Brains,
Next time keep your head out of the microwave when it is on….I realize that some adults carry stupid college tricks into adulthood but that is one I would cease immediately….
Anon Nurse,
Thank you…
anon nurse,
Thanks for the linked Greenwald article. A very sobering read.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/28/norway/index.html
Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 07:29 ET
An un-American response to the Oslo attack
By Glenn Greenwald
Excerpt:
Over the last decade, virtually every Terrorist plot aimed at the U.S. — whether successful or failed — has provoked greater security and surveillance measures. Within a matter of mere weeks, the 9/11 attacks infamously spawned a vast new surveillance statute (the Patriot Act), a secretly implemented warrantless eavesdropping program in violation of the law, an explosion of domestic surveillance contracts, a vastly fortified secrecy regime, and endless wars in multiple countries. As it turned out, that massive over-reaction was not a crisis-driven anomaly but rather the template for future actions.
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Just to highlight how extreme is the fear-based American repudiation of openness and transparency, consider the responses to the efforts of two Democratic Senators, Sens. Wyden and Udall, to force the Obama administration to explain what Wyden previously called the Secret Patriot Act:
The Obama administration continued Wednesday to resist the efforts of two Democratic senators to learn more about the government’s interpretation of domestic surveillance law, stating that “it is not reasonably possible” to identify the number of Americans whose communications may have been monitored under the statute. . . .
“Every time the American public finds out that laws have been rewritten in secret or the administration can’t give a basic answer, it erodes public confidence and makes it harder for intelligence agencies to do their jobs,” said Wyden, who for the past two years has decried what he calls a de facto “secret law” governing domestic surveillance.
So drowning in secrecy is the National Security State that the Obama administration refuses even to explain how it interprets and applies surveillance powers enacted by Congress. Even more perverse, the article describes how the Obama administration has been touting its commitment to openness by hailing the declassification of a 200-year-old document on cryptography: one that has been publicly available for years in Europe. As a new ACLU report documents — one co-authored by former FBI agent Mike German — “We are now living in an age of government secrecy run amok.”
What’s most striking, and ironic, is that the Norwegian response to the Oslo attack is so glaringly un-American even though its core premise — a brave refusal to sacrifice liberty and transparency in the name of fear and security — was once the political value Americans boasted of exhibiting most. What we now have instead is the instinctive exploitation by political elites of every threat — real and imagined — as a means of eroding liberties, privacy and openness, based in part on fear and in part on an opportunistic desire for greater power. That’s why Norway’s courageous, principled response seems so foreign to American eyes and ears.
(end of excerpt)
Swarthmore mom,
Thanks for posting that link. Who skewers the politicians and members of the media better than Stewart and Colbert?
Elf Boy, I told you your peabrain would overload trying to figure that out. Looks like the main circuit breaker blew. Get somebody to reset it and get some rest. Double up on your meds. Change the tinfoil hat asap. Triple-ply.
RatShitBrain,
Too many morning medical cocktails this morning for you? You are not making logical sense….You are being contradictory to your earlier statements…..Stick with the notes given you….Do not think outside of the box…..You can’t handle such details….Ok Kdpazee….
Of course, the body of the story mostly contradicts the headline, but what do you expect from the Huffington Post, that bastion of unbiased journalism.
One group suspended the guy who expressed those views. Another group agreed with the anti-legal-immigration, but denounced the violence. The last group indicated that the issue of legal-immigration should be left to the democratic process.
And, @AY, the teaparty is mostly against illegal immigration, not legal immigration. There is a difference even if your pea brain can’t comprehend it. But, let’s not try to tar the right with this tragedy. I’m such Mike Spinwell will be chiming in to admonish you any second now. Hold your breath.
I suppose you gave the 4 talking points early on….
BTW I think just like underware….Kdpanzee needs to be changed to another site…I think he loosing credibility….or maybe he can reinvent himself…into a new nom de plume and agitate in a different way….this is getting kind of fun…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/28/jon-stewart-fox-news-norway-religious-hypocrisy_n_911801.html
AY, yes indeed. I thought I had heard line of thinking somewhere before.
Kdpanzee,
Lab Rats have more intelligence than you could ever dream of, regardless of the amount of anti-psychotic meds you consume ..and serendipitously…they are more useful…
OS,
Does that not sound like The Teaparty…..and all of the ideals that they espouse…
Here is a headline of interest:
Here is the rest of the story:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/anders-behring-breivik-europe-far-right_n_911249.html
All signs except for his actual manifesto. You must have sent out the stupid personality to handle that last argument. (They’e all stupid, but this one is clearly the stupidest.)
Quick question for your most lucid personality. Are you the same “Anonymously Yours” that was posting back in 2009? That one had better grammar and a son who had tragically died (Condolences if it was).
Was that you? And, if so, what happened to you in the interim. Car accident that caused massive brain damage?
When your IQ exceeds that or a lab rat you will be listened to….Big chance in that..right bat boy….
Get back to the talking points you are given…..You know you are told to tell he is a lefty….Thats what your notes say and that is what you are saying….But in reality…your voices….say….he is just one of you…That is why you are defending him….That is the sick GOP Liberal Agenda….All signs point that he is tied to the Values of the Tea Party…
I’m not defending this loon, Mike Spinwell. Gosh, that name fits you so well.
I’m just placing him in the proper part of the political spectrum, so that others can be more wary of his ilk. He is a murderous loony lefty. As the terror report I cited above makes clear, murderous lefties are responsuible for far more terrorism than murderous righties are. Let’s focus our resources where they will do the most good to pr3event such tragedies from occurring in the future.
In fact, Mike Spinwell, why don’t you go turn yourself in to the locak authorities for evaluation. Your bilous posts contain many similarties to this latest terrorist’s manifesto. You can’t be too safe.
So this much be the voice that lacks grammar skills? Is there a translator in there, elf tin-foil hat boy, that translate for the other personalities? I’m thinking your limited IQ points are divided up among the various personalities, compunding your problems.