New video evidence below shows Maummar Gadhafi was alive after being seized in the operation that led to his capture. What I find rather disconcerting is the treatment of this video by the media, which covered the “joy” and “celebration” of the event while ignoring the shocking abuse of a wounded man and then the parading and stripping of this corpse. We were appalled when militants paraded the bodies of Americans in Somalia and Iraq. Yet, when it is someone we hate, it barely draws mention while newspapers taunt the dead man as being pulled “from a stinking drain.”
Following the killing, President Obama took to the air to herald the victory and a “future . . . of dignity.”
We long denounced Gadhafi on this blog. However, the treatment of Gadhafi below should shock the conscience. Only this morning did I see a brief story on CNN interviewing a man on how he felt about the way Gadhafi died. The thrust however was not about the abuse but the lost opportunity of a trial.
Instead of addressing the abuse of a wounded man and later a corpse, CNN and other outlets simply warned about graphic images and focused on Libyans firing weapons (including heavy machine guns) into the air (a moronic form of celebration that led to the wounding of various civilians).
We previously discussed the discomfort of watching Americans dancing and celebrating the shooting of Bin Laden. The media again did not dare to question the propriety of such displays despite the condemnation of the same displays in other countries after the 9-11 attacks.
Because human rights groups have called for an investigation and raised the question of whether he was shot in the head after capture, CNN and other news outlets are raising the question this morning. CNN’s anchor notes this morning that “some people” may find the parading of the body again this morning (including being struck by shoes as a sign of contempt) “might not be respectful.”
This video should shock the conscience and the story should be not the celebration but the crime depicted in this video.
Here is my warning: the video below is graphic and shows the abuse of a wounded man and corpse as a form of celebration. Human beings will find this video disgusting.
Blouise,
I’m completely male, thought some would question the merit of a sir given my penchant for acting with bad manners on more than one occasion.
Blouise,
🙂
angrymanspeaks 1, October 21, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Gosh Guys,
This is a tough one. I seem to agree with everyone.
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Are you angry man, about the Libyan people losing all that the Libyan government gave them before the oil barons staged this war and took it from them?
Or are you, like many others simply expressing the group orgasm of bloodlust?
I guess the answer is……yes
Like I said. I understand.I doubt if the rank and file rebel knows they are being manipulated by the oil interests. Their rage and frustration is real. The Committee members I have heard interviewed were educated, well spoken men who seemed sincere. So I’m sure they’re just in it for the money and power. Now that it is done my question is; will they be loyal to those who “helped them” to win this revolution or go their own way. As far as what the government gave it’s citizens; If the people were content, where did all of these rebels come from? Are they all criminal mal-contents previously ejected from Libya, or escapees from Libya’s assylums? I don’t know. Was it perhaps that the government treated the upper crust much better than the average Jamal on the street?
If the things Kadaffi gave them came at the cost of the human rights of some, then it was worth their losing them. So hard to know the real truth from here even on those rare occasions when both sides are easy to access.
Ok….Bloodlust? Me? Not me. Not about Kadaffi. I could imagine a senario where I could exhibit bloodlust quite easily though. Remember. I am Angryman. Duh…………………………….Don’t you hate it when people say or write duh in a conversation?
Peace.
http://blog.skylin.es/tracing-the-khadafi-photo
Tracing the Kadafi photo – where did it come from?
Less than 24 hours ago rumors started circulating on Twitter that Moamer Kadafi was found and allegedly dead. You can check the real time results for Kadafi on Skylines. Together with the rumors the photo below started circulating.
At Skylines we try to organize the world’s real time photos by indexing an ever growing number of real time photo services. We currently index 1.2 million photos per day. We immediately saw a sharp increase in photos shared about Kadafi (and a number of other spellings of his name) – the graph shows photos indexed by Skylines per hour on this subject
But the question is of course, is this photo true and who’s the photographer? With the growth of real time (photo) networks, we have seen many cases of photos attributed to a specific news event that were fake, staged (like those in many conflict areas) or simply attributed to the wrong events (like the Irene cloud formation).
So what about this photo? It seems to be a capture of a (video?)camera or cellphone showing Kadafi being captured. It also shows a timestamp of “2011-10-20 12:23pm” (but this can of course be wrong or manipulated). I have been backtracking this specific image on Skylines and found out it showed up in our database right the moment is was shared (2:18pm). It was a photo shared by @isneack on Twitpic (currently viewed 1300+ times). I have been trying to get in contact with @isneack about the search of this photo, but haven’t heard back.
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Gosh Guys,
This is a tough one. I seem to agree with everyone. I can understand the rage and frustration of the Libiyan people and i know I have enough anger in me to kill someone who hurt my family. I won’t say it’s right. Just understandable. It would be nice if the rebel soldiers had controled themselves and brought him to trial. It would be great if i was as emotionally distressed as I am intelectually. I am not going to beat myself up with guilt over it though. Nor will I condemn these rebels for their actions. I’ll just say it’s a shame we all can’t act like humans all the time. But we can’t. Situations and circumstances can sometimes drive us to do what we normally would not and what we would normally condemn as wrong. I was alot more upset about the people mudered by Kadaffi and other Tyrants in that area than about him. They didn’t ask to be tiortured and murdered. I can at least feel just a bit better knowing that he placed himself in the situation and refused to surrender to the Transitional Committee when it was obvious he was losing and could probably use some protection. he did chose to stay and to fight to the death soooo…………like I said; this is a tough one.
Ask yourself this. If you were to capture the man that killed your family, friends, and countless other innocent people brutally and without cause, what would you do?
This was a man that kept a whole nation of people in fear for their lives for something like 40 years. I’m not saying he deserved it, but why should he be given to right to a fair trial and the slightest shred of humanity? He certainly hasn’t show either to the thousands that he’s had killed.
Outrage? What outrage? There’s none left. Half our own country would be happy to see the other half kicked to death. They “boo” our own military stationed in a war zone if they’re gay. They cheer about the prospect of people without insurance dying. Our last president and vice president have been on press junkets bragging about torturing prisoners. And lest you think I’m just sick of the scumb bags on the right, I’m also sick of my property taxes continually going up so all the Mexican kids can be educated in Spanish and get free health via the ER. I’ve got no more patience for every 15 -year-old in the ghetto having five kids with no intention of ever supporting them. My wife and I would like to have another kid but we can’t afford it. Boo-fucking-hoo for Gadhafi. Bring on the Reign of Terror, The Great Leep Forward, or what ever blood letting the pissed off masses in Tripoli choose. I’ve got no fucking outrage left for some lynch mob half-way around the world while the middle class in this country is getting eaten from above and below by tyrants home-grown, big and small.Of course it’s illegal, but outrage? Not today brother.
Blouise,
I understand now! Thanks!
What do you suppose US troops would have done in WWII, had they come across Hitler?
This ending is hardly surprising, sad tho it is. Same thing happened to Mussolini.
“Here is my warning: the video below is graphic and shows the abuse of a wounded man and corpse as a form of celebration. Human beings will find this video disgusting.”
Decent Human beings will have all sorts of feelings regarding this video, from disgust at the abuse of a corpse, to celebration that a tyrannical dictator is gone, to observance of the evidence that this asshole was shot in cold blood after capture.
mespo,
Fine words. In high school I found that I “hated” “history.” Neither the hatred nor the history was genuine. I was simply bored by the nonsense we had to memorize in the coursework and wasn’t the least bit stirred, intellectually or emotionally, by what was being force-fed to us (public school, A-F scale). Once I began to read things chosen and evaluated by me, for reasons other than “acing” tests, I began to REALLY HATE HISTORY. It just seemed to me to be one gang of irremediably atrocious thugs after another, deposing each other,claiming victory for the “right” eah time and then outdoing each other on accumulated horrifying “wrongs.” I am drunk with disgust. I didn’t watch the videos either; who needs to get drunker on disgust than THIS?
Ahhhh, I remember the good ole’ days when assissinations were kept secret. Black ops were invisible and only done in the “name of national security”. Sure I expect the CIA and Presidents at times assissinated a few people here and there because they were bastards, but they didn’t brag about any of the assissinations. We as a nation knew that these things happened but we didn’t actually KNOW.
There is something extremely frightening about the knowlege that our President will actually assissinate someone on his discretion alone. And then announce it on TV.
The media however has completely lost all discretion. Anything salacious will be televised ad nauseam. With a gleeful fake shock on the faces of the reporters.
I was once tuned into MSNBC and they interrupted the usual broadcast with a special report. The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff had resigned. Then that report was interrupted by an even more pressing report ! They showed an overhead shot of the sherriffs car as it drove to the home of Paris Hilton to arrest her and escort her to jail. This “Special Report” was televised for an hour or two. The resignation of the Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was not mentioned again.
So is there any real surprise at the crass nature of the media or the growing insensitivity of the populace?
Thankyou, Angrymanspeaks…..
Turns out those dang cowboys only wanted to keep the gold under the sheepranch for themselves.
Imagine that.
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yup, creepy, isn’t it…
“Obama is pulling all troops from Iraq by the end of the year.” – to go into Syria? iran?
Good God, I can’t believe the wasted breath over a despotic murderer. If you didn’t live under the regime of torture and death, you will never have any idea what motivated these people to kill this evil trash. Applying abstract moral values to a deeply wounded nation from the isolated safety of an established democracy is the worst kind of intellectual imperialism.
We are a cowboy nation. We have a 235 year history of floggings, hangings,electrocutions,gassings,shootings,burnings,pressings and drownings as a guide to our nature.
We think we can graze our cattle anywhere we please and never care that we are on someone elses land. We do whatever will increase our influence in the oil rich areas of the world while we stand by and watch genocide in nation after nation. We stand by and watch vast numbers of people starve to death and do nothing. But let one oil rich nation so much as suggest they might be inclined to control their own minerals and off we gallop to “Free” the war ravaged starving people of that country who are obviously being mistreated by their government because girls can’t wear pants. Not that girls should be restricted from wearing pants but before we start a war over it, we might want to consider starting a war over the planned and executed murder and/or starvation of millions of people. But no. Those people have no oil so are not worthy of our concern.
We assassinate our own citizens under the thinly veiled justification that they were terrorists and yet we claim that terrorists are not military but just common criminals.
Cowboys did the same thing to get rid of sheep herders who wanted to ranch in Cattle territory. Call in the Regulators.
Cowboys? I should have said Gunslingers and Claim Jumpers.
Turns out those dang cowboys only wanted to keep the gold under the sheepranch for themselves.
Imagine that.
Where is the outrage over the murder of Fred Hampton?