CBS: Gadhafi May Have Been Sodomized After Capture

I received a fair amount of criticism after my post following the death of Maummar Gadhafi objecting to the apparent execution of the deposed leader and the abuse of his body. One rebel has now come forward to take credit in executing the unarmed dictator and there is now a report that a Libyan rebel may have sodomized the dictator as part of the abuse after his capture.


What is clear is that, even if this report proves true, it will not matter and will likely receive little media attention. There is a clear aversion to appearing sympathetic to a tyrant. The result is this disconnect between the images on the screen and the cheerful coverage of the anchors.

I was surprised by the response by some of my friends, who dismissed concerns about how the man was killed or abuses given his past history of abuse. It is a form of moral relativism that forgives any form of abuse. What concerned me most (and still does) is the almost complete failure of the media to even acknowledge the abuse of Gadhafi while repeatedly airing the footage and joining the “celebration” of his death. The lack of journalistic integrity and independence was chilling. It was only after Human Rights Watch and other groups called for an investigation that the media generally felt comfortable in raising the issue as a news item.

Instead of acknowledging the shocking savagery displayed on the film, CNN turned to the more pressing question of how Gaddafi’s death might translate into a positive factor in the President’s reelection. Abusing and possibly raping a tyrant does not seem much of a cause for celebration, but it does deserve scrutiny from the media (including the obvious violation of international law). It offers little hope for era of dignity heralded by President Obama — anymore than the announcement today that the new Libya will be based on mandatory compliance with Sharia law.

Source: CBS

46 thoughts on “CBS: Gadhafi May Have Been Sodomized After Capture”

  1. To join issue with the immaculate conception of the main stream media and the karma cats here, let the New Zealand press present the opposition to that immaculate concept, if you please:

    Events in Libya have confirmed that the West is fated to inflict on humanity the demented moral hypocrisy of its peoples and the malevolent avarice of their ruling élites. North American and European corporate propaganda media have recited a relentless litany of false beliefs that have also been echoed by the great majority of what, in the Western Bloc, passes for progressive opinion.”

    (Scoop, New Zealand). Ouch. That joins issue.

    Now, that issue is joined, shall we present this evidence from each side to a grand jury?

    And if upon return of a true bill, have a petite jury trial?

    If so, the jury shall be mutually selected according to law, each side with proper peremptory challenges and the like, until a jury of 12 unbiased citizens is selected, with two or so alternates.

    Then, evidence shall be submitted as witnesses appear at direct examination, are sworn upon oath or affirmation under penalty of perjury, each then appropriately cross examined according to law.

    But first, what are the charges that are to be leveled in the presentment to the grand jury, seeking an indictment (based upon the stories in the MSM and in the New Zealand Scoop)?

    Or shall we simply ask the blue sky for some karma, soak in the violence against the accused, and then get back to the tele or the barby?

  2. To join issue with the immaculate conception of the main stream media and the karma cats here, let the New Zealand press present the opposition to that immaculate concept, if you please:

    “Events in Libya have confirmed that the West is fated to inflict on humanity the demented moral hypocrisy of its peoples and the malevolent avarice of their ruling élites. North American and European corporate propaganda media have recited a relentless litany of false beliefs that have also been echoed by the great majority of what, in the Western Bloc, passes for progressive opinion.”

    (Scoop, New Zealand). Ouch. That joins issue.

    Now, that issue is joined, shall we present this evidence from each side to a grand jury?

    And if upon return of a true bill, have a petite jury trial?

    If so, the jury shall be mutually selected according to law, each side with proper peremptory challenges and the like, until a jury of 12 unbiased citizens is selected, with two or so alternates.

    Then, evidence shall be submitted as witnesses appear at direct examination, are sworn upon oath or affirmation under penalty of perjury, each then appropriately cross examined according to law.

    But first, what are the charges that are to be leveled in the presentment to the grand jury, seeking an indictment (based upon the stories in the MSM and in the New Zealand Scoop)?

    Or shall we simply ask the blue sky for some karma, soak in the violence against the accused, and then get back to the tele or the barby?

  3. The Moar You Know 1, October 25, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Sodomy after capture is a tradition in that part of the world. A horrific tradition, and one that ought to be stopped immediately, but a tradition nonetheless.

    I too have been utterly appalled at the treatment of Gadhafi. And just as appalled at the, dare I say, lighthearted response of the Western media. I don’t care how many people he killed and tortured, that is not how you treat a prisoner
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    It violates Islamic law, including Sharia law, and is not a tradition.

    You should “care how many people he killed and tortured” once it is proven following a grand jury indictment, jury trial, and due process.

    Same as with Bush II, Cheney, and the boyz tried at Nuremberg.

    It is justice 101 dude.

    Karma doesn’t get it.

  4. Gene H. 1, October 25, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Dredd,

    Karmic nightmare? My only karmic nightmare is induced by your applied misunderstanding of the term in its various contexts. It’s less nightmare than it is a fitful toss.
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    I guess you realize that karma does not contemplate a grand jury, then a petite jury trial, and due process throughout.

    It only entails pitchforks and witch burnings. The Westernized bloodlust version of it.

    It is not American Constitutional Law as your false assertion claimed.

    You’ve ben Hadden dude.

  5. Sodomy after capture is a tradition in that part of the world. A horrific tradition, and one that ought to be stopped immediately, but a tradition nonetheless.

    I too have been utterly appalled at the treatment of Gadhafi. And just as appalled at the, dare I say, lighthearted response of the Western media. I don’t care how many people he killed and tortured, that is not how you treat a prisoner.

  6. Dredd,

    Karmic nightmare? My only karmic nightmare is induced by your applied misunderstanding of the term in its various contexts. It’s less nightmare than it is a fitful toss.

  7. Power is often expressed by violent sexual acts against other people. The rape of women (about 1 in 4 women have been raped) is used by men to humiliate women and keep us in “our place”. In prisons everywhere rape sends the message of who has power. If you read accounts of all the prisoners the US govt. tortured and continues to torture, you will see that rape is absolutely integral to that torture. The attack of a person’s most intimate self is a way of saying that the powerful person “owns” the person being raped. It is one of the most depraved and pathetic visions of power humans have devised.

    In general you will notice that societies conceive of power as the power of a bully–that is the power to humiliate, control and harm others. This is reinforced by religions of all type who decree that some people have more worth than others and that followers are to believe this without question.

    Our society gets ever more coarse as cruelty and power to harm others becomes entertainment or a source of pride. We see this in video games and TV shows. Hillary Clinton was yuking it up with Diane Sawyer about Gaddafi’s death. Obama was out bragging about various killings, including at first, the 16 year old son of al Awalki (yes, he’s the man!!!) Glenn Greenwald mentioned that having a president who murders various “terrorists” appears to be the only source of pride left to much of the US population. He quoted Jeremy Scahill as saying our foreign policy was basically reduced to, USA, Fuck Ya!

    So we and most other world cultures share a deep blood lust, heartlessness and cruelty within the structure of our society. Until we quit believing that some people are worth more than others, that power is best used to control, harm and humiliate others, until we embrace the idea that power is should instead be a skill used for the greater good, then we, like the Libyans will remain locked in a never ending cycle of cruelty.

  8. Gene H. 1, October 24, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Actually Dredd, without the “pop culture” qualifier, your statement “Karma is a feeling, a useless plastic pop term that is bereft of any mature concept of American justice formed by a valid application of American Constitutional law” is baseless and incorrect.
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    Where are the karma indictment by a grand jury, a petite jury trial by peers, and due process throughout taking place?

    You are having a karmic nightmare Gene.

  9. EdC
    1, October 25, 2011 at 12:42 am
    It’s no longer a serious conversation after the notion of “karma” has been introduced.

    =then contribute and get it back on track otherwise your complaint is worthless

  10. Mr. Turley,

    I wouldn’t say that your position is a bad one. It’s morally sound and human. The disgusting way in which these individuals treated another human being is abhorrent.

    But I’d have to ask if it is in any way surprising to most people.

    These sorts of reprisals and actions are in no way foreign to folks in this area. Even here in Afghanistan, Afghan policemen keep young boys around in makeup in order to gratify sexual desires in some areas. I fail to see how that is any less reprehensible than a necrophiliac (assuming it happened after he was dead) Lybian attacker.

    I’m upset that humans can act so terribly, but I’m not surprised anymore. I suppose I’m a bit de-sensitized to the barbaric nature of these cultures after hanging around so long, but this sort of thing isn’t news to me anymore. It just seems like another in a long string of horrible events that only garnered any attention at all because the man was relatively infamous compared to innocent children in any one of these countries.

    -CPT J

  11. In Buddhist teaching, the law of karma, says only this: `for every event that occurs, there will follow another event whose existence was caused by the first, and this second event will be pleasant or unpleasant according as its cause was skillful or unskillful.’ A skillful event is one that is not accompanied by craving, resistance or delusions; an unskillful event is one that is accompanied by any one of those things.
    http://dharma.ncf.ca/introduction/truths/karma2.html

    and then there is the samsara…

  12. Dredd—“…those who are supporters, family members, or otherwise part of the group that the target belongs to, see an injustice, not “karma”.”

    I don’t think one needs to be a supporter, family member or part of the victim’s group to see injustice at work here, but then again, I’m an outsider viewing the event from thousands of mile away….

  13. I’m as appalled as you are, Mr. Turley. As we were taught growing up, two wrongs do not make a right. That group shouldn’t have been the ones determining what was justice.

  14. I think various factions were united against Gadhafi, a unity that will devolve to civil war before long. Soon we’ll see how much $1B of US liberation buys Libyan women under Sharia law.

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