The Greek government is being denounced by the National Confederation of Disabled People after it added pedophiles, exhibitionists, and kleptomaniacs to the list of disabled people entitled to state benefits. They have joined pyromaniacs, compulsive gamblers, fetishists and sadomasochists as persons entitled to ask for government assistance.
For example, a pyromaniac or pedophile is now entitled to disability pay up to 35 percent while a diabetic is entitled to only 10 percent disability. Presumably, a diabetic pedophile could received 45 percent disability, so it would be a curious benefit for diabetics to claim an interest in children or fires or both.
As Greece struggles with demands to reduce its bloated state funding, this is not a useful step. In Greece, one out of five workers is a state employee, a whooping 20 percent of the working population. The state is having to cut benefits for citizens. I am all in favor of paying for treatment for pedophiliacs and kleptomaniacs, but should it be treated as a disability? What do you think?
Source: ABC
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You know, there’s a lot of mish-mash in the language used to talk about disability, mental illness, and crime. Perhaps this is because we’re not really letting ourselves think about what the real issues are.
Pedophilia is recognized as a mental illness. A person can be a pedophile and never harm a child — ever. That is not illegal! Compare it to a heterosexual who has never committed sexual assault, never sexually harassed anyone, and who, although he may not be getting any consensual sex anywhere, still refrains from imposing his desire for it upon any other person “not similarly inclined.” The difference, of course, is that a pedophile would never be able to have sex with the object of his desire because that is per se illegal — since children are not of the age of consent. Could he simply go without sexual satisfaction and refrain from committing any crimes? One has to presume that the answer to that question is YES.
So starting from there, and saying, “Is he then unemployable?” what do we have?
I actually know of someone who is afraid of his own pedophilic daydreams and consequently he is phobic in many ways. He is afraid to offend. He fears public places. He has agoraphobia. He has failed at employment many times already, not because he has ever molested any children (he has not) but because one or another problem at the job (unrelated to pedophilia) has overwhelmed him, and most recently, he had a disabling back injury while doing manual labor. My point is that it is not his assumed and self-diagnosed pedophilia, per se, that has disabled him; it is a combination of factors that include his extreme anxiety. It’s a complicated thing.
A psychiatrist I know has treated a pedophile successfully by maintaining a list of very clear rules, starting with DO NOT BE AROUND CHILDREN. The good of this is that it is similar to the treatment of alcoholics by AA: NEVER TOUCH A DROP OF ALCOHOL OR OTHER ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. It is simple, direct, non-harmful, and successful. It does need constant reinforcement, of course. One would hope that a rational government would want to make this kind of treatment available to anyone whose mental illness gave rise to a danger of harming the society by compulsive antisocial behavior.
I think a society DOES have an obligation to take care of people who are disabled by mental illness, and I think it is difficult to come up with the proper guidelines that would make that work in general. I knew someone years back who had been disabled by extreme social phobia that related quite clearly to repeated hospitalizations in his childhood, necessitated by polio and multiple reconstructive surgeries. In today’s world he would have made a fortune telecommuting because he was a genius and would have been perfectly fit for our computer-oriented technology/economy. But as it was, in his state, he couldn’t even get an interview. My point is that his mental illness made him DISABLED then but would not have been a DISABILITY now! But it would have been the same mental illness.
Just as criminal conduct can be carried on by a person who is not motivated by the “criminal intent” necessary to fit into the technical legal definition (and thus, there is a category of defendant who is considered “not criminally responsible by reason of mental illness”), remunerative work can be carried on by a person who is not mentally healthy IF THE JOB IS ONE THE MENTALLY ILL PERSON CAN SAFELY PERFORM.
Safety, though: A pedophile could not safely work in a school. Couldn’t he work in a factory that made steel beams? I think he would probably be LESS employable than many other people, but perhaps that “35%” deals with that issue. I don’t know.
The issue of secrecy comes up. I think if you’re on disability for pedophilia and you get a 35% disability, that should be public information so people are aware that your disability may have some effect on their OWN ability to include you in social activities. You don’t want to put a disabled person (whose disability is pedophilia) in charge of setting up for the company picnic.
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”. What is old is new again. Let’s make the rich pay their fair share.
The Cult of the 5thGrade met again on this topic and we have got to draw the line. Kick Greece out of the Euro. Let them pay the cornholers in Drachmas. Until that happens: no subsidy or back up to Europe as a whole. Tell Great Britain that they are with us or agin us. If we allow this to go on it will spread to the rest of the Euro countries and all childs will be left to guard their behind. No pun intended. Sick culture, sick Euro, sick Europe, sick of hearing about it, sick some dogs on them. Pedophile disability insurance my …..
pete,
I think that all Catholic Priest can marry but the ones with allegiances with Rome… This came about the later part of the 11th Century….The Eastern Ortho’s can be be married….but must abstain from sex before the Eucharistic feat…so much for the temple prostitutes…..
asha,
It is just a matter of how you pay for them….
so to all the people out here that think that they should get disability well let me just give you something to think about ok… So say your child was raped by a pedo and then you hear a year later that your tax dollars that you pay out of your check each week are going to be keeping him fed clothed and a roof over his head so basically you are supporting him after he decided to rape your child I dont know about you guys but I personally do not want to be doing that. I would rather them live under a bridge than to support them fully after they did that to our children and possibly ruined our childrens mental state for the rest of their life… Im sorry but I dont think that pedo’s deserve that
can greek orthodox priests marry?
In the United States one large charitable institution takes care of its own pedophiles. There are things that kids can do to stay away from them. First, tell your parents you will volunteer for anything but altar boy. Second, demand public school not catholic school. Third, no confession, tell your parents you want a dog to confess to, that the guy behind the screen who asks about your pee pee is scary. Fourth, when at Mass and plate goes by sit to the downstream side of your parents and stealthily remove their donation so that the money does not go to the peds.
The group discussed this at afternoon break and we all agree.
Yes, they should be declared disabilities. They’re conditions not chosen or wanted by their victims, and they certainly interfere with the ability to get and hold a job that pays enough to live on.
Berliner,
I may need a refresher on this….but this seems to state that they have some problems for the 10 year ones…I’ll leave it up to your expertise though…..
Weak German bonds sale fuels Europe debt crisis fears
English.news.cn 2011-11-24 14:54:09
BERLIN, Nov. 24 (Xinhua) — Germany failed to sell more than a third of an issue of 10-year bonds Wednesday, increasing worries about the European debt crisis.
Investors only took 3.9 billion euros (5.2 billion U.S. dollars) of the total offer of 6 billion euros (8 billion dollars) in German bonds, normally considered a safe haven for investments.
The weak market response further fueled concern the debt crisis is spreading to Europe’s core economies after France saw a sharp rise in its borrowing costs last week.
“I’ve never experienced Germany being unable to place such a high percentage of its bonds at auction,” media quoted Rudolph Hessler of HSBC Trinkaus bank as saying.
Germany’s federal finance agency, however, played down the market performance, calling it routine and saying it was no problem.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/business/2011-11/24/c_131267345.htm
This is out of your posted article…..
Unlike corporate bonds, government treasury bills do not pay interest. Rather, investors typically buy the bonds at a discount, redeem them at face value and pocket the difference as profit. But buyers of Germany’s bonds on Monday paid slightly more than the face value of the bond today for the right to redeem them at face value in six months’ time.
Now if you want an investment tip….Gorilla glass 2 would be where its at…See Dow Corning…new advent…
@Anonymously Yours:
Actually, this weeks six-month bonds were auctioned at an average yield of minus 0.0122% — pretty much everyone who got bonds was willing to *pay* the German government to hold their money…
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2012/01/09/germany-bond-yield-negative.html
This is of course not a positive thing: it means that the German government is viewed as an island of stability in an otherwise highly chaotic sea.
But to say that Germany has problems to raise money is a little far fetched.
Dredd,
As a Native Texan…descendant of the Texicans….I must protest that Twinkies are not getting all of the available Government subsidies….and tax breaks….maybe they should have a subsidy for the corn oil too….lol