-Submitted by David Drumm (Nal), Guest Blogger
For those who oppose abortion no tactic is too sleazy. The scare tactic of stopping abortion by linking it with breast cancer was manna from heaven. The visceral fear of breast cancer would present the faithful with a weapon to be wielded with no regard for the facts. The fact that the scientific evidence shows no link between abortion and breast cancer fazed them not.
The recent Komen/Planned Parenthood publicity and Komen’s ties to this woo, has reanimated this long-dead controversy.
The Komen tie-in is via Jane Abraham, a member of the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Advocacy Alliance board of directors. Abraham is also on the board of directors of The Nurturing Network, an organization founded and chaired by Mary Cunningham Agee. It was Agee who, in 1999, wrote in a Culture of Life Foundation newsletter that “the undeniable link between breast cancer and abortion is only the ‘tip of an iceberg’ of damage that medical science is now able to reveal about this procedure.”
Abraham is also founder and General Chairman of the Susan B. Anthony List. On its website, the SBA List touts its Komen connection while claiming:
There are also studies that link abortion to breast cancer- which is precisely what SGK is supposed to be fighting against.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but this is a lie.
The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists released a report, Induced Abortion and Breast Cancer Risk, that found:
More rigorous recent studies demonstrate no causal relationship between induced abortion and a subsequent increase in breast cancer risk.
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists found:
Breast cancer: induced abortion is not associated with an increase in breast cancer risk.
The American Cancer Society studied the link and reported the results:
- Induced abortion is not linked to an increase in breast cancer risk.
- Spontaneous abortion is not linked to an increase in breast cancer risk.
These scientific results are known to the anti-abortion cadre, and they’d rather lie to women.
H/T: Jodi Jacobson, Catholics For Choice (pdf).
You know why they are right this time. “Hide the Decline”
Bron, I’ve notice a trend in the main stream nightly news. NBC Brian Williams had a story on the mild winter we are having and the effect on plants blooming early this year which has created alot of pollen. My wifes allergies are killing her. Not once did he mention climate change or global warming. The flipside is I have yet to see any reference to the record snowfall and cold Europe is experiencing once again. Not to mention last month snow fell in the Sahara Dessert and in Rome. First time for both since the late 70’s if my memory serves me correct. Back then, climate scientist warned us we were entering the next ice age and there were too many people on earth. That if population control measures are not initiated immediately, and effectively, all the technology man can bring to bear will not fend off the misery to come. You see back in the 70’s there were approximately 210 million people in the U.S. and at the time was considered too many and the projected 280 million in 2040 was likely to bring lots of misery here. So there were calls for forced abortions and to put chemicals in the water supply to steralize women from having more children. Kinda like China’s one child per couple policy. Now the U.S. population is about 310 million. Thats 30 more than what was approximated for the year 2040.
I guess they were wrong then Gene but they are right this time.
Gene H:
“The only person Bdaman takes to the woodshed on AGW science is himself, Bron. With or without your cheerleading.”
AGW is a politically based ideology. The only science behind it is political science. The only calculus used is figuring how to get funding from politicians.
The sun is what changes the climate and I would say we ought to start figuring out how to prevent the next glaciers from rolling south. Crank up those coal fired plants and fire up that SUV, baby its [going to get] cold outside.
For those so inclined:
Non-linear systems are interesting to study. Particularly the point mentioned about their seeking a new oscillation point when being sufficiently “triggered”.
Nice of God to give us such a one to play with in the earth’s climate system.
Reviewing the above while you are sleeping, have come upon two solutions to offer..
We need a bartender, who says: “Take it outside, boys”, or a variant: “Go talk to a wall, XXX.”
Or, we need to refer two contrahentants to a fight room removed from the original thread. “Y’all can fight as much as you like, but not in my living room.”
Mike, well played to remind everyone of the original intent. This is the nature of extended threads on blogs–they tend to wander off into the rough, to use a golf term.
Anyway, this whole argument was going nowhere, as you pointed out. Like climate change, abortion causing cancer is a favorite whipping boy of a certain element of the so called conservative crowd. In actuality, they are not conservative at all. They are reactionary.
I see that in some states schools will be required to teach climate change denial in science classes, just like evolution denial. Next thing you know, they will want to teach that tobacco does not cause health problems. I think a lot of them are still smarting over losing the tobacco argument.
Now off to turn in, it has been a long day.
“Deliverance” the movie was not about Louisiana. It was about the Appalachian area near where I live–what the Cherokee called the Otteray. The movie was filmed along the Chattooga River and in the Tallulah Gorge. This is in the Appalachians near where Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia and South Carolina come together.
THIS is Louisiana music:
As I remember it this thread was on the lies being spread about abortion causing cancer. Nicely played Bdaman to derail one losing argument with another. All in defense of people who hate America and it’s Constitution. I never took you for being a humanity hater, but I guess hate the sin but like the sinner.
Virginia House passes “personhood” abortion bill
Theocrats on parade!
Elaine,
As an aside, tomorrow (2/15) is Galileo’s birthday. He would have been 448. Happy Birthday, My Man From Padua Via Pisa!
?????????? Bdaman is STILL talking? It’s like talking to a cement mixer:
“chug-chug-chug-climate-change-is-a-hoax-chug-chug…”
If you ask it to explain itself, it just makes the same sound…
If you leave for a few hours, and come back, it’s making the same sound…
Just chuggin’ away to itself. The concrete solidified hours ago. Nothing useful coming out of there.
There was no intelligible response hours ago, and there’s still none.
I didn’t know you could play banjo, Bdaman.
Bdaman,
“Texas and Louisiana have introduced education standards that require educators to teach climate change denial as a valid scientific position. South Dakota and Utah passed resolutions denying climate change. Tennessee and Oklahoma also have introduced legislation to give climate change skeptics a place in the classroom.”
So glad I live in the Northeast liberal state of Massachusetts.
I remember a time in history when Galileo was sentenced to house arrest. Back then, many people chose not to hear the truth–and some chose to punish those who dared to speak it.
Is Earth really the center of the solar system?
The religion that burned and tortured “heretics” and punished Galileo is the same religion that believes that using contraceptives is immoral.
Do do do do doot doot doot dooy do.
Use from Louisiana aint ya. Come on lemme hear ya squeal like a stuck pig.
Boy, I got your boy 🙂
Texas and Louisiana have introduced education standards that require educators to teach climate change denial as a valid scientific position. South Dakota and Utah passed resolutions denying climate change. Tennessee and Oklahoma also have introduced legislation to give climate change skeptics a place in the classroom.
In May, a school board in Los Alamitos, Calif., passed a measure, later rescinded, identifying climate science as a controversial topic that required special instructional oversight.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/16/nation/la-na-climate-change-school-20120116
“Any time we have a meeting of 100 teachers, if you ask whether they’re running into pushback on teaching climate change, 50 will raise their hands,” said Frank Niepold, climate education coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, who meets with hundreds of teachers annually. “We ask questions about how sizable it is, and they tell us it is [sizable] and pretty persistent, from many places: your administration, parents, students, even your own family.”
Against this backdrop, the National Center for Science Education, an Oakland-based watchdog group that supports the teaching of evolution through advocacy and educational materials, plans to announce on Monday that it will begin an initiative to monitor the teaching of climate science and evaluate the sources of resistance to it.
Oops.
Vroom vroom, propaganda boy.
INTERNAL DOCUMENTS: The Secret, Corporate-Funded Plan To Teach Children That Climate Change Is A Hoax
By Brad Johnson on Feb 14, 2012
http://thinkprogress.org/green/2012/02/14/425354/internal-documents-climate-denier-heartland-institute-plans-global-warming-curriculum-for-k-12-schools/
Excerpt:
Internal documents acquired by ThinkProgress Green reveal that the Heartland Institute, a right-wing think tank funded by the Koch brothers, Microsoft, and other top corporations, is planning to develop a “global warming curriculum” for elementary schoolchildren that presents climate science as “a major scientific controversy.” This effort, at a cost of $100,000 a year, will be developed by Dr. David E. Wojick, a coal-industry consultant.
“Principals and teachers are heavily biased toward the alarmist perspective,” Heartland’s confidential 2012 fundraising document bemoans. The group believes that Wojick’s project has “potential for great success,” because he has “contacts at virtually all the national organizations involved in producing, certifying, and promoting scientific curricula.” The document explains that Wojick will produce “modules” that promote the conspiratorial claim that climate change is “controversial”:
Dr. Wojick proposes to begin work on “modules” for grades 10-12 on climate change (“whether humans are changing the climate is a major scientific controversy“), climate models (“models are used to explore various hypotheses about how climate works. Their reliability is controversial”), and air pollution (“whether CO2 is a pollutant is controversial. It is the global food supply and natural emissions are 20 times higher than human emissions”).
Wojick would produce modules for Grades 7-9 on environmental impact (“environmental impact is often difficult to determine. For example there is a major controversy over whether or not humans are changing the weather“), for Grade 6 on water resources and weather systems, and so on.
Wojick will receive $5,000 per module, with twenty modules produced a year. Wojick, who manages the Climate Change Debate listserv, is not a climate scientist. His doctorate is in epistomology.
The Heartland Institute also runs the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change, a conspiracy-theorist parody of the Nobel-prize-winning U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Heartland’s NIPCC project “pays a team of scientists approximately $300,000 a year to work on a series of editions of Climate Change Reconsidered.” Their climate-denial work is funded anonymously.
By the way I’m currently driving an old company vehicle. A 2000 Ford E350 with a V-10 Triton. Varooooommmmmm Yeah Baby you can hear it sucking the air down that deep throated throttle body each time you stomp the gas.