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High School Student Posts Video On How The U.S. Is Becoming Police State . . . And Claims That He Is Promptly Visited By The FBI

Justin Hallman, 16, wanted to show how the United States is turning into a police state. He succeeded all too well in not only receiving an A+ in his American Government class but also allegedly a visit from the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) confirming the very premise of his film posted on YouTube (below).

Hallman is a civil libertarian who supports Ron Paul, criticized an array of measures including the National Defense Authorization Act, crackdown on free speech, and attacks on the hacktivist group Anonymous. I have raised many of the same concerns, but I never got the interest that Hallman appears to have generated from the good people at the FBI.

Hallman’s house was promptly visited by two FBI agents, according to Hallman and his mother. The teenager stayed inside the door and refused to answer the door. His mother later called and was told by the agents that “We need to talk to your son.” They came back to the house and said that they wanted the teen to work for the FBI as an informant and spy on others, particularly Anonymous. He says that the agents closely questioned him about his support for Ron Paul as well as a conversation he once had with his teacher about the Illuminati secret society.

I have tried to find a response from the FBI denying the underlying facts of the boy’s account. If this visit occurred, I would have hoped to see a response on the conduct of these agents in allegedly seeking to turn a high school student into an informant or investigating such a film (including apparently interviewing his teachers).

138 thoughts on “High School Student Posts Video On How The U.S. Is Becoming Police State . . . And Claims That He Is Promptly Visited By The FBI”

  1. Ariel,

    Neither did the Congress who voted for it understand the Patriot Act. They literally could not, with 60 minutes to study the act involving changes to over a hundred existing laws.

    That is another example of how even Congress is steered, and not by their constituents.

  11. IDEALIST:

    “What do you believe?”

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    If credentialed mental health care professionals (note the plural) conclude that your actions warrant the conclusion that you present an imminent threat to your safety or the safety of others they should petition the court to have you committed for observation. If the judge agrees, you should be subject to compulsory evaluation in a mental health facility.

    Had that happened at Va. Tech where the mental health staff had such concerns or in Colorado where the shooter’s psychiatrist was likewise alarmed, 46 people would likely still be alive and scores more wouldn’t be in pain.

    It’s really pretty simple and common sensical — something a lot of folks on this thread seem to have willingly abandoned in their zeal to find a threat to their liberties under every rock.

  12. Whoever wrote that most people are against the Patriot Act is living in an echo chamber. I do agree with the Patriot Act forcing various agencies to talk to each other, and that’s it.

    Most American’s do not understand the breadth and depth of the Patriot Act’s destruction of our civil liberties. If I’m right, how can they be either for or against?

    Security is such a huggable moment, want a hug?

  13. Messpo,
    Your post:
    “importantopics:

    “And a judge will strip you of your right to own firearms if they can get a physician to declare you mentally unstable. It’s happening more and more.”

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    It should be happening more. Ask those families of the kids slain at Va Tech by Seung-Hui Cho.

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    Thank Goodness I am not a therapist or fórensic psychiatrist. So I feel no profeesional barriers to opinionating that you seem unusually challenged by threats, that most of us live without excessive fear of in our daily lives.

    Do you have a suggestionn as to what measures should be taken to lessen the danger you perceive? Would you have more solutions with internet monitoring of American free speeech for signs of terrorists, signs of mental instabiiity as in the case exhibited above in the Marine who essentially protested using published songs, if we are to believe it of course?

    What do you believe?

  14. Dredd: “The “it feels true” part is the instinctive belief that there isn’t much they will not do.”
    ***

    No trust. It’s a bad place to be.

    I have been looking for a story I read or heard just within the last couple of days about a problem with some internal DHS (i believe) memos that Congress has not been allowed to see. There had been some internal legal opinions released via FOIA t(hat even Congress had not been provided) about what some law pertaining to (internal?) security allowed. What wasn’t being released were the internal, relevant agency memos which detailed what the respective agencies interpreted as the scope of allowable activities which may be different.

    I think it was a TV report that I was trying to listen to while I made dinner a couple of days ago and just heard enough to semi-garble the info details. I haven’t been able to find it though. My search terms are faulty because I cold not pay enough attention to pick out good descriptive key-words.

    That said, I think that the deep veil of secrecy and what appears to be ubiquitous lying from all government agencies, the fact that laws are written, stated as allowing one thing and used in other ways without notice or explanation or remedy (except later, narrowly, and on a very limited basis if at all) has worked to destroy trust in the credibility of the government. You know they’re lying because their lips are moving.

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  17. Gene H. 1, September 13, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    anonymously posted,

    “You were probably intellectualizing while in the womb.”

    I was born playing chess. As you can imagine, this was quite awkward for the delivery room staff. Not to mention uncomfortable for mom.

    ———

    lol, I might have guessed. Thanks for that.

  19. One issue, whether or not it is relevant to this topic but certainly might be one for youse guys and gals, is how the Federal Government’s criminal procedures relate to juveniles.

    Federal crimes are geared to be prosecuted against adults. The federal system has provisions to deal with juveniles, under delinquency procedures, but it is legally cumbersome and by statute the federal courts and US attorneys are more or less encouraged by statute to pass the juvenile to state authorities. Othewise it invovles a lengthy process.

    http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/18C403.txt

    I have only seen personally a couple of prosecutions of juveniles under the federal system, my expereince has been US Attys do not want to deal with it, for understandable reasons.

    That is not to say a fed LEA might not take the initial investigation, but they will almost certainly later pass it along to state courts for prosecution.

  20. lottakatz 1, September 13, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    …

    A news article like the one that gave rise to the Professors article, even if its sourcing bona fides are questionable strikes a chord, a resonance built on enough knowledge about how dramatically the weight of power has been shifted and cemented into place, that makes it ‘feel’ true.
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    It is not only wee the people who at times feel these things instinctively, knowing they are trueish.

    But also knowing that propaganda, spin, and co-ordination of cover-ups are also true.

    Sometimes government officials can’t keep it under wraps either:

    … as a presidential appointee to high office, I had high level security clearances. In addition to my duties as Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury, I had FEMA responsibilities in the event of nuclear attack. There was a mountain hideaway to which I was supposed to report in the event of a nuclear attack and from which I was supposed to take over the US government in the event no higher official survived the attack.

    …

    a handful of Arabs, mainly Saudi Arabians, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service, men without James Bond and V for Vendetta capabilities, outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs.

    It is hard to image a more far-fetched story–except for the second thing you need to know: The humiliating failure of US National Security did not result in immediate demands from the President of the United States, from Congress, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and from the media for an investigation of how such improbable total failure could have occurred. No one was held accountable for the greatest failure of national security in world history. Instead, the White House dragged its feet for a year resisting any investigation until the persistent demands from 9/11 families for accountability forced President George W. Bush to appoint a political commission, devoid of any experts, to hold a pretend investigation.

    …

    The government’s agents and apologists try to deflect attention from disturbing facts by redefining factual evidence revealed by experts as the product of “a conspiracy culture.” If people despite their brainwashing and lack of scientific education are able to absorb the information made available to them, perhaps both the US Constitution and peace could be restored. Only informed people can restrain Washington and avert the crazed hegemonic US government from destroying the world in war.

    (11th Anniversary of 9/11). The “it feels true” part is the instinctive belief that there isn’t much they will not do.

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