We previously discussed the suggestion by a member of Congress that the Connecticut massacre could have been avoided if only teachers were carrying M-4 assault rifles. Now the Governor of Michigan is considering bringing that a little closer to reality with a bill that would allow concealed guns in public schools. Referring to the Connecticut massacre, Senator Tom Casperson, the Republican sponsor of the bill, said “to me it gives [teachers] a chance.” [Update: the Michigan Governor Rick Synder has vetoed the legislation]
If signed by the governor, the measure would also permit firearms in hospitals and stadiums for good measure. Ohio, Oklahoma and Alabama are considering their own expansions of gun laws.
Churches and businesses could still post signs prohibiting guns to exempt themselves from the law.
As of Dec. 1, there were 351,599 concealed weapons permits approved in Michigan, according to the State Police website.
Source: Business Week
Idealist707 sorry I have been at the dojo, sleeping and attending to other things. 14″ group is from sit down bagged position. On a good day I can do it standing or prone. Again I was simply speaking the the weapon. I was answering the ignorant statement that was made that the Bushmaster 5.56 was only good for 40 yards.my Bushmaster is good for 500 and my Mini 14 is good for 300. Not sure YOUR point.
Mike,
done
Mike S,
I will return but as I told Bob, I have been unusually busy and the concentration necessary to make a good showing eludes me. I seem to be getting tired more easily … or more often … which I suspect has something to do with the aging process.
I will make the effort as I do enjoy all my opponents.
nick:
Still keeping it classy there, I see.
Mike S:
My bad. Stieg Larsson’s books are set in Sweden.
Great circle jerk. I’m sure a few need Viagra to compete. We’ll just have to disagree on this boys.
I second Mike’s comment of 11:44PM and mespo’s comment of 11:54PM.
Mike S:
“But enough of this, I ‘ve got a good Norwegian murder mystery to read.”
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Stieg Larsson’s Millennium Trilogy?
Mespo,
Read Stieg and loved it. Saw the Swedish film and American film and loved them both, but I ‘m partial to Daniel Craig. I’m on my third book of the Harry Hole series and this man Nesbo is a fabulous mystery writer with a compelling hero. This is a Norway based series. Now to read.
ID707,
Flattery will get you everywhere as my father used to say.
Blouise,
I was ticked and pricked that you stopped playing scrabble with me. As far as the bigger sticks go well I’ve never been one to measure, nor rely on measurement as a criteria.
Malisha,
You’re a treasure here, but watch out you may wind up in the “in crowd” and Nick will aim to take you down despite your dearth of testosterone.
But enough of this, I ‘ve got a good Norwegian murder mystery to read.
nick/ID:
Anything worthwhile has standards and hence keepers of those standards. You can claim victim-hood or being picked on but, by and large, the regulars here have earned their stripes and have reached a consensus on acceptable behavior. While the final decision rests with our host, Professor Turley, the regulars have considerable input on policy and content. That status comes from, in most cases, years of considered commentary and mutual respect for the intellect and humanity of the regulars which includes both guest bloggers and valued commentators like the fine folks whose names keep reappearing. Personally, I make no apologies for the regulars or the standards for argumentation, civility, and intolerance of fools, braggarts, and ideologues that this blog so masterfully and uniquely represents.
ID, I know these folks quite well, as do you. It’s fascinating to watch them deal w/ newcomers. I can visualize them marking their computers and scenting the keys w/ their paws. The women are ok, they don’t have the testosterone issue. Estrogen and the loss of it shows @ times, but I’m used to that having grown up w/ sisters and having been married for 35 years. I’ve found over my lifetime it’s easier to make female friends and acquaintances. You don’t have to deal w/ that alpha dog horseshit.
“Yet they are at least as respected as we are, perhaps more so. (Mike S)
Only because we possess bigger … ahem … sticks.
And please, anybody, pete, Gene, anybody willing to play off my “pricked” word choice … I was a straight-man looking for the take-it.
” … honest mistake about being complimented and complemented. ” (Malisha)
Well played!
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/17/1343291/almost-twice-as-many-preschoolers-are-killed-by-guns-as-are-cops/
pete,
The irregularity of your regularity is all part of your charm.
i’m one of the irregulars, but i’m working on it
Nick S,
That an “our gang” group exists is true. MikeS has named only some of them, giving their years of service here. GeneH is a newcomer with first GB in 2011. Reviewed by OS as “complex” as Í remember. Taken as an example only, not pointing fingers..
MikeS is my idol and model, but perfect—-not at all. We all wax pompous at times. Or stumble in thought and speech. And then we like to hear of it from those who otherwise rally to our cry. It is natural, but a bore that it is needed here by anyone here, regardless. Such a shame for such a fine blog, but our world is imperfect.
Anything said is fair game for shooting down. That buddies stick together is not confined to JTs. Seems universal. My experiences are not at issue for the moment. You are getting the skit now. And I am here for you because I don’t like bullies, of which some here are of that type.
But that is how it is for now. Until it changes. As for not wanting to become a member ot the gang, that is BS and you know it. But human too.
You and other tongues were hanging out asking to be invited when a gathering was “discussed”. We are all suckers for such crap.
Odd that such talented people need such defenses. MikeS puts his ass on the line and that I admire. And he returns to the most idiotic comments with warmth and instruction. Kind of like the PC method that some dislike.
Arab Proiverb: Me against my brother. He and I against our cousins.
We against the clan. And the clan against the tribe or invading strangers.
What was said about advice: The wise don’t need it and the stupid won’t heed it. But I like the role. Strengthens my TA parent role. Speaking as a child of course.
last week teachers were lazy union thugs who couldn’t hold a job in the “real” world
this week we want to give them guns and weapons training to protect our precious children
how about combat pay?
Fabien,
Let’s hold ourselves to what you wrote.. It was you who told us of your attaining a 14 inch group at 300 yards with a 3X scope.. Now you seem to mean that it was rifle characteristics which you meant. I asked for neutral test results, and got none.
I simply asked if your group was achieved standing or prone. I also said that a scope was meaningless on a defensive weapon at short range.
You have dodged the questions and statements made.
Stop pretending being an expert. You will always here be asked to prove it.
Don’t hide from the real issues behind the childrens need to be protected.
Strict gun control as they do in the UK is one step on the way.
Their gun death rate is one part in thirty of ours. You can divide 10,000 (ours) by 30 to get their total.
One said here earlier that we don’t have nukes or other effective weapons against the government. So, our bodies will have to do. And will in today’s nation.
Meanwhile, we will be safe from citizen guns.
That is enough for me for now. The culture of violence wiil take longer to fix.