We have continued to follow the abuse and killing of women in countries like India, including so-called “honor killings” where parents murder their children to maintain their honor. Now Indian caste leaders have given a glimpse into the perverse perspective in such cultures with a submission to their Supreme Court.
In their submission, the leaders of caste councils asked for greater understanding of the pure motives of parents who murder their children for honor. This filing occurs after the gang-rape and murder of a 23-year-old student on a bus as she travelled home from the cinema with a friend. There are an estimated 10,000 such honor killings annually in India.
Om Prakash Dhankar, leader of the Sarva Khap Panchayat, insisted that “The honour killings are carried out by law abiding, educated and respectable people, who fear the society and always try to guard their reputation. They always care about their esteem and public image and do not want any harm to their public standing.” He went on to note that “We have many cases of honour killings, where the families were peace loving and law abiding and were liberal towards their children. They later on went to kill their children to save their honour in the society.”
He further warned women not to use cellphones or speak with men if they did not want to be harmed by such decent people: “Our suggestions to women not to use mobile phones, [wear]tight clothing or mingle with the opposite sex is based on ground realities. We are not anti-women and have no intention to curb their freedom but we have seen girls and boys taking to each other at odd times and fixing dates on mobiles, which in many cases have led to rapes We believe that individuals from opposite genders should not mingle too much, if they do, its like sprinkling petrol on fire.”
So all women have to do is not speak on the phone, speak with men, or wear anything that shows their figures to avoid being raped or killed by good decent people?
32 thoughts on “Indian Caste Leaders Praise Parents Who Kill Children For Honor”
artiewhitefox…. India existed at least 3,000 years before Christ was even a drip running down Mary’s leg.
This is the culture that develops with unrestrained breeding. Life becomes cheap….
I like Darren Smith’s comment; 3 from the begining. Its worth a read.
“Had there be any honer in killing wouldn’t Jesus have personally demonstrated that in the KJV?”
3 1 While he was going from there with his father Joseph, a child running tore into his shoulder. And Jesus said to him, “You shall no longer go our way.” And instantly he died. At once the people, seeing that he was dead, cried out and said, “Where was this boy born that his word becomes a deed?”
2 When they saw what had happened the parents of the dead boy blamed his father Joseph, saying, “Because you have this boy you cannot live with us in this village. If you wish to be here, teach him to bless and not to curse.”
12 1 And Joseph saw his prudence and understanding and wished him not to be unacquainted with letters. So he handed him over to another schoolmaster. And the schoolmaster said, “Say, alpha.”
2 But the boy said, “First tell me what is the beta and I will tell you what the alpha is.” Becoming irritated, the teacher struck him. And Jesus cursed him and the teacher fell and died.
3 And the boy went home to his parents. And Joseph called his mother and commanded her, “Do not let him out of the house so that those who make him angry may not die.”
Infancy Gospel of Thomas 3:1-2; 12:1-3
There is no such story. Jesus raised the dead twice, remember? That book is not in the KJV. Jesus is slow to anger. That is one of the fruits of the spirit. That book is not in the KJV. Even so Jesus never used a weapon on anyone. Nether did he put-his hand on anyone to kill them. What have people done, I ask you?
The devil in the person did the killing. Jesus saw what others did not see. He came to give life. Unfortunately there are people that rejected the life giver. When people reject him what else can he do but let the person get what they wanted?
What a person wants eternally is what they give. Think about that.
of course, the Catholic church never spilled blood in Jesus’ name…right?!
The only time there is honor in killing is in self-defense or the defense of others. There is never honor in killing for an abstraction like family honor. That isn’t about about how “society views you” either. No one in society, even Indian society, gives a rat’s ass about your “family honor” except for you. It’s a motive of selfishness, like most motives for killing. Besides, honor falls to the individual. If a family member does something dishonorable, that dishonor belongs to them even if it embarrasses you. And that’s what “honor killings” come down to: you’ve decided to kill someone because you’re embarrassed.
Look at Jesus. Did he do what the military does? What manner of people ought ye to be? Had there be any honer in killing wouldn’t Jesus have personally demonstrated that in the KJV?
So where are all the gutless wonders of international human rights groups like the UN Human Rights Commission just to name one on this subject. Pretty much silent of course.
As usual hiding in their air conditioned offices waiting for the next tiny infraction from the US or somewhere in Europe perhaps that they can jump on with great glee.
It is easier to understand the rapes in India with braniacs like this!
He who caste the first stone, shall himself be stoned to death. And he who is stoned, does not care as much as the sober man. And so it is in India. Columbus thought he found it and all he got was some rock called Plymouth.
“US gang bangers, organized crime outfits, biker gangs…”
That’s quite a group of endorsers for the “law abiding, educated and respectable people,” comprising the caste system and its leaders. Can pedophiles make the list, too?
How many US gang bangers, organized crime outfits, biker gangs kill for “respect” (honor)? 10,000 wouldn’t be so surprising…..
To allow sanction killing is allowing a black hole of darkness to enter whoever. Look around. You will see other institutions equally dark as the Indian Caste Leaders that are killing girls.
It talks about “murdering their children” but the so-called “honor killings” appear to be directed solely at females. It’s bad enough their society doesn’t value females and wants them strictly controlled. But it’s worse that individual families of so-called “decent, educated, liberal” people have such tenuous relationships with their female children that a murder here and there is not only not a problem but also justified and positively sanctioned..
To allow sanction killing is allowing a black hole of darkness to enter whoever. Look around. You will see other institution equally dark as the Indian Caste Leaders that are killing girls.
I have to go a little old school on you. Don’t take this video the wrong way, but I think it will speak for itself as to what I feel about these stories:
“They later on went to kill their children to save their honour…”
10,000 murders in a year. So what would the official response be from the authorities. Probably nothing substantive. How about stopping this by making a concerted effort to arrest and put these murderers on trial with no difference in sentencing than if those persons had murdered a stranger.
This is a shining example of “a society is judged by how well it treats its most vulnerable.” A society that gives license to parents to murder children for the sole purpose of securing the reputation of those parents is nearly as culpable in my book to those doing the actual killing.
Maybe it would be time for the Indian ambassador to be called in for a private sit down with the state department and told “It would probably be good to reign in your country’s honor killing problem very soon before there are calls for a condemnation of your country before the UN General Assembly.”
It’s not that India is incapable of enforcing homicide laws, it is what it chooses to enforce that is indicative of their acceptance and protection of their vulnerable citizens.
Indian Caste Leaders are worse that perverse they are abominable spilling innocent blood. They are doing what God hates.KJV, Pro; 6;16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren,
OK, so say this family takes their kid out for honor’s sake. What I would like to know is, does it REALLY make them feel better inside? Does it REALLY make them feel more honorable? Does it make them feel vindicated? Like better people?
My guess is that it does NOT, but since their society tells them that it SHOULD, they go along with it. Like the emperor not wearing any clothes. This is a travesty. I can go along with different cultures doing different things. I don’t think all cultures have to be the same. But human life, and especially the life of family members, does seem like it should be sacrosanct, in all cultures.
The fundies are on a tear worldwide … even in the largest democracy.
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