-Submitted by David Drumm (Nal), Guest Blogger
Al-Hayat al-Jadida, the official daily newspaper of the Palestinian Authority, published an Op-ed by Hassan Ouda Abu Zaher. The Op-ed states: “to the lie about Al-Qaeda and the Sept. 11 events, which asserted that Muslim terrorists committed it, and that it was not an internal American action by the Freemasons.” While there are many conspiracy theories about the Sept. 11 attacks, there are usually relegated to fringe websites. Unsurprisingly, no evidence is presented to support such a fanciful claim.
This is Islamic lunacy and should be opposed by all rational human beings. That this lunacy is supported by the Palestinian Authority confirms a World Public Opinion poll that showed that 46% of Palestinians believe that the U.S. government or Israel was behind the attacks.
This degree of credulousness is not unexpected when people are raised from infancy to believe nonsense, such as Muhammad ascending to heaven on a winged horse. Philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer wrote on this subject in the 19th century:
If, in early childhood, certain fundamental views and doctrines are paraded with unusual solemnity, and an air of the greatest earnestness never before visible in anything else; if, at the same time, the possibility of a doubt about them be completely passed over, or touched upon only to indicate that doubt is the first step to eternal perdition, the resulting impression will be so deep that, as a rule, that is, in almost every case, doubt about them will be almost as impossible as doubt about one’s own existence.
A Sophisticated Islamic Theologian™ might assert that no true Muslim would have committed the attacks on Sept. 11, in contradiction to the available evidence, including the admission by al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden that he orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. However, this would be an example of the No True Scotsman logical fallacy where “an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing.”
James Madison wrote of the importance of a “perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters” in his letter to Edward Livingston in 1822. While Madison’s “perfect separation” is under constant attack, we need not look far to see the effect of ignoring his wisdom.
H/T: Jerry Coyne.
Those who still stick their heads in the sand and pretend that everything is “normal,” so that they can go about their daily business so their bubble of “reality,” does not burst, are as much a part of the American problem as those that committed this act! However, there are some that secretly in their heart of hearts go along with this rather than having fingers pointing at “their people.” There may be some Jews and Christians who are still members of the liberal left, but when it comes to Israel, the Mussad, and the Palestinian issue, they are all Zionists and many are members of AIPAC. That is why the right wing extremists in this country refer to the government in Washington as “ZOG,” or the Zionist Occupied Government. I am not saying that I necessarily go along with that, however, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, chances are IT IS A DUCK! One does get the distinct impression that something is not right up there on Capitol Hill. That something or some group is controlling the government other than the American voting/tax paying public who have become economically disenfranchised as well as politically.
So you out there that have your own hidden agenda, and support either by your silence, or deliberately, the notion that these planes were “hijacked,” by terrorists who couldn’t fly a model airplane, much less a large airliner, go ahead and play with your Ipad, watch Keeping Up With The Kardasians, and Dancing With The Stars. Go ahead and keep consuming and wasting and supporting those at the top. Go ahead and keep thinking that oil and gas are more important that clean air, water and food. When you get up in the morning, and look in the mirror, realize you are looking at your worst enemy, unless you wake up!
Mr. Drumm, I cannot believe this propaganda is still embraced by Americans. Twin towers came down under controlled demolition. Architects, Builders, and Scientists have proven so. Watch the explosive charges in the videos. Bldg. 7, untouched by any plane, went down 5+ hours after the twin towers. Is it true that Bush’s brother’s “security” biz had the security contracts for these buildings at the time of the “attack?” Don’t you suppose Dick Cheney made millions of dollars from Halliburton for this trick (former CEO)? These hapless goons entered the most highly protected air space on the planet to fly this huge plane in a nearly impossible path to the pentagon (allegedly)? We pay huge taxes to support a huge criminal syndicate that is the immensely obscene federal government of the US. The Bush family has been involved in government crimes since (at least) HW’s carreer in CIA – the largest drug cartel in human history. It’s likely that “the texan” HW was involved in the Dallas murder of JFK.
Really, stop watching CNBC and do your own homework. That is the only way Americans will BEGIN to understand what has been, and continues, to plague us.
Dang it Bob Kauten,
You leave just when I wanted to secure your credibility by asking you some questions about the anthrax attacks of the 911 mystery:
(Mysto Army Anthrax Lab Shut Down – 2). Hey Mrs. Kauten, can Bob come out and play with Ron?
This has been fun, at times, but I’m not feeding this cluster-fornication any further.
By the way, I’m a Master of Kleftnobulism, and that qualifies me to state that none of this speed-freak paranoid delusion could have happened.
Need I remind you guys, that the Mother Ship arrives in three days? I think you’d better start packin’.
I am not familiar with the sources you cited, however here are some sources that are credible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQR2z4YCzDw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geQ4WRqlycs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqbcsU0_RjU
Ron, I mean, bill,
Your investigation skills would be greatly lacking because it is apparent that if you were in charge of the 9/11 investigation you would have already come to a conclusion before starting the invstigation, finding only so called evidence that supports your initial assumption.
It is obvious that you would not consult experts that might refute your conclusion either, because you have either ignored or castigated their intentions or credibility.
And you would also introduce laughable and preposterous suppositions such as one of your more incredible bits:
“A high energy transmitter could have been directed at the building at the time it started to collapse to further “pulverize” it into dust. The high energy transmitter could be located in a helicopter overhead, or in a building nearby. “
I might suggest that you stop using the likes of the Art Bell Show as sources of your theories. Some gov’t officicial did not help bring down the WTC with a high energy transmitter any more than the Yammato from the cartoon Star Blazers did with its Wave Motion Gun.
You might say that you are trying to educate people to alternate explainations as to what happened, but what you proffer about the 9/11 events is unbelievable by any valid standard.
Watch how uncomfortable Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and General Meyers become when asked about new weapon’s technology being used in the “war on terror.” Actually most of this technology was developed in the 1980’s during Regan’s “Star Wars” program, and some of it was even tested during the invasion of Panama:
Here is a theory. It’s mine, so I don’t care if you believe it (you can call it a “conspiracy theory,” or nightmare, it doesn’t really matter), I’m just trying to get people to think outside their ‘bubble:”
There were periods where the surviving workers of various companies in the twin towers recalled that before 911; they were asked not to come in on various floors that were being “renovated.” This would take place off-and-on over several months. During this period, a binary explosive could have been made into a paint that was sprayed onto the metal and interior surfaces (ceiling, walls, and floor) of the building. The paint could have also been compounded to absorb energy. A high energy transmitter could have been directed at the building at the time it started to collapse to further “pulverize” it into dust. The high energy transmitter could be located in a helicopter overhead, or in a building nearby. A first responder interviewed stated that you could not find anything larger than a couple of inches such as the push buttons on a telephone keypad. Even the bones of victims could not be found larger than an inch, and many were found blocks away on the tops of other buildings. Even the ceramic bathroom sinks and toilets could not be found.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj5x9LNjnHE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLhOUFYjTDM
Each floor could have C-4 placed underneath that would cut the connection to the aluminum outside support structure. C-4 is interesting in that hitting it with a hammer will not cause it to go off. You can even burn it to heat your C-Rations. Only a blasting cap or Det-Cord will cause it to explode. Better yet, modern cutting charges at the floor wall connection could be timed to go off as the upper floor descends. Det-Cord could be run down from the charge on the floor above to ignite the charge on the next floor below, causing the upper floor to “pancake” on the floor below.
However, before this could happen, the inner core columns would need to be weakened prior to this, hence the explosions heard by various firefighters. It’s interesting that these core columns were found to be in lengths transportable by trucks. After the core columns were weakened, only the outer aluminum structure would need to be sequentially cut at the floor/wall connection.
This brings us to Building 7: If it was “pulled,” it takes weeks to prepare. So why bring down a building that was not hit by aircraft? Look at what was inside the building such as what organizations, documents and equipment were housed there. It was the “Command Center,” and built much stronger than other high rises.
Ron,
Paragraphs have purpose.
Darren Smith is a voice of right-wing toleration? He’s an anti-intellectual? or just another organism that lives under a rocK.
Oh, by the way, since you were ignoring it, my comment about the architect above was what BLG said:
As a registered architect with a structures background, I refer you to http://www.ae911truth.org – Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth – where it is rendered clear for nearly any sentient being with more than a few neurons to rub together that the towers (plus building 7) were brought down with controlled demolition.
Until we, as a nation, are willing to expose and accept the truth behind the horrible lie that is 911, we cannot right our country socially, geopolitically or economically.
See, you didn’t even care if you DID hear it from a structural architect, who is a specialist in tall boxes!
The adult in the room totally disqualified what the qualified architect in the room had to say. And no, I am not an architect or engineer and never claimed to be. But I know many of them, have worked with them and respect them very much. And I listened to what THEY had to say about the logistics of what happened in 911.
Unfortunately for you, there was not a lot of biochemistry involved, which makes you definitely not an expert in this field. Yet you disparage people who LISTEN to experts in this field, all the while flapping about not caring about tall boxes. So you don’t care, so what! Other people DO, and they actually use their brain cells to hear all sides and see which one is the correct one. And that is usually very easy to do, once you listen with an open mind, to all sides of a story. Of course you do have liars in there, but they’re usually pretty easy to flush out, when you hear everything.
I’m sure you’re way too involved with your biochemical agents to have time for tall boxes which you don’t care about anyway. If you don’t care what the experts in the field have to say about it, you obviously have made up your mind without listening to the facts involved. Even being the king of biochemists does not make you a structural engineer.
And what is all this magical stuff you keep ranting about? What does MAGIC have to do with anything? I don’t think anyone has even thought of magic here except for you, and I’m not sure why?
This is true: If I were conducting an investigation of what happened that day, I would consult the leading experts in the field of demolitions, high rise architecture, engineers, pilots, firemen and first responders, scientists, academics and others. I would also sift through all the evidence, including the “hot spots” that were reported long after the collapse of the buildings by firemen as being “like a foundry down there.” Many firefighters reported explosions before the collapse, and all the concrete was pulverized into dust, something that does not happen when a building collapses (except when demolitions are used). I would study the steel (most of which was removed) for any unusual “cuts” that may indicate the use of nano-thermite. I would also look into the “puts” on the stock market for the airlines just before 911, who did it, and how did they get the prior knowledge. I would also take Dr. Steven Jones of BYU as a serious input as he is an expert in the field of explosives. I would also look at what Dr. Judy Woods has to say on her investigation of the crime scene. I would read all I could by David Ray Griffin, and Mike Ruppert. I would look at other points of view like those produced in Italy (Zero, An Investigation Into 911), and Germany (Unter Falscher Flagge):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH1q_aUaW4w
I would look at documentaries such as 911 Press For Truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJ056Ajqd0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIhdReD6MAo
I would also interview all the members of AE911 Truth, who are experts in their field. I would have interrogated all members of the Bin Laden family before they were spirited out of the country right after 911, when all flights were officially grounded. I would have interrogated the Israeli Mussad who were caught that day driving vehicles with explosives. I would have interrogated the BBC broadcasters about who told them in advance that Bldg 7 had collapsed (when it was still seen standing behind the reporter), since no high rise before or since 911 has ever collapsed due to fire alone. Some high rises have been completely gutted by fire, but still remained standing. I would concentrate on Bldg 7 since it was completely ignored by the 911 Commission, as well as the missing videos of the Pentagon hit. First indication was too small a hole in the Pentagon to be caused by an airliner. Also, none of the large titanium engine parts were ever found.
I would also go back and look at previous “terrorist” attacks like the one in the Federal Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. Local TV news reported two more bombs were found inside the building that were more powerful and sophisticated than the manure bomb that Timothy McVeigh supposedly set off. Who had access to the building to do this? Certainly NOT Timothy McVeigh! After the first bombing of the WTC in the 90’s, an FBI informant suspected that his FBI handler was setting him up, so he recorded his phone conversation in which he asked his handler if they were to use the real explosive or a fake explosive. The handler basically told him to use the real stuff they had supplied. The truck bomb was eventually placed away from the center core columns, and did more damage to an adjacent building than the WTC. THE BUILDINGS DID NOT COME DOWN AS INTENDED!
FINALLY, I would water board Larry Silverstein, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, and Rice!
Words of wisdom from the Director of the 911 Games (a.k.a. Bobby Kauten’s Magic Mind Games):
There are a zillion others, all reasons to believe, so keep the magic faith baby.