Republican state Rep. Michele Presnell of Burnsville, N.C., shows that the effort to reform the image of the GOP is still a work in progress. When asked recently about whether she would be comfortable with a Muslim prayer opening a legislative meeting, Presnell responded: “No, I do not condone terrorism.” Presnell was one of the legislators who recently sponsored a bill to allow North Carolina to establish an official religion. My guess is that it would not be Islam.
Presnell wrote to a constituent complaining that “The famed ACLU is telling Rowan County they may not pray before commissioners meetings.”
Britt Kaufmann wrote her to say that he understood the stance of the ACLU in opposing prayer and that he “wanted you, as my representative, to know that I do not think the proposed bill is a good solution to that problem. … Would you be comfortable with a public prayer to Allah before a legislative meeting in Raleigh?”
Presnell’s response was interesting: “We just need to start taking a stand on our religious freedom or it will be whisked away from us.” That was strikingly similar to the statements of former Utah governor Leavitt last night who called on citizens to take a stand and insist on the public expression of faith and not just the right to personal beliefs in God. He also warned that the freedom of religion was being whisked away by secularists, atheists, and non-believers.
What is most striking is the fundamental ignorance shown by Presnell and her colleagues of not just our Constitution but our values as a nation. North Carolina has a law that bans atheists from holding office despite the express language of Article VI that “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.” While professing faith in our values, these legislators continue to oppose the fundamental precepts of our constitutional system. The desire to embrace a faith-based system finds its greatest allies outside this country in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia which define religious freedom as recognition of their own faith.
Secular values are not the rejection of faith but the insistence on the protection of all faiths by keeping government neutral and separation from religious institutions. Presnell and others are at war not with secularists but the framers in seeking to create state religions and treating other faiths like terrorism.
Presnell must appeal to some in Burnsville but she shows an astonishing level of prejudice not just against Muslim but our constitutional system. Various sites state that she did not supply information on her educational background. She states on one site:
I have always been a Conservative Republican. Lower taxes, less Regulations, then small business people can begin to hire again.
Hot Topic for me is VOTER ID. This is the only way to prevent fraud in our NC elections. My opponent voted NO. We do not have enough votes in the NC House to override the Governor. Another Hot Topic is the Marriage Amendment to our NC Constitution. Let me be clear…I BELIEVE IN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN, traditional marriage, period.
She can now add the removal of the wall of separation of church and state as one of her priorities. It appears that she believes that Thomas Jefferson was fundamentally wrong about the direction he wanted to take the country and Michele Presnell is here to re-shape the nation in a new, theological image.
Source: News Observer
Artiewhitefox.
I for one am no longer even trying to make sense of your incoherent ramblings, but please can you stop your habit of posting the same or almost the same text multiple times, it is so much of a nuisance scrolling past them. This same suggestion also applies to your two other sock puppet names that do the same thing.
I got blessing from one person showing they are a Christian not acting religious with me. Your words are defiling your soul making people bitter defiling their souls. You are not wise. I would wish that you were wise. Had you be wise your words would show it.
ARtie:
You are very well versed in the Lord’s words, and can quote scripture better than most everyone here and we like to read your perspective on the issues presented here. But it might be that we just don’t have the experience that you do and so it is good for us to hear what matters to you.
You make good arguments for our Lord and it might also be helpful to talk with someone at your church and let them know what is happening with us here at the blog because I know it might be frustrating to see that not everyone here understands to word of our Lord, it might be good to explain to the minister that we on the blog are having trouble understanding the message you are trying to present to us and someone at your church, like the minister or pastor can listen to what is concerning you and he might have some good advice as to how to relate to us here. Plus, he can also help find scriptures that can be used to help prove the words of our Lord to some of those on the blog who are not as well informed about the Bible as you or your pastor might be.
I know the minister at my church gave me some good tools to help convince others the right way to let Jesus into our hearts. They are always available to help us and they understand us quite well. Spiritual healing is the best kind of healing and I am glad to have this available for the asking. So when I talked with my minister, I learned things I could also teach others with. Sometimes it’s good to visit church now and then to see the light and what is important in life.
The Lord will be with your Artie 🙂
Thank you for your words that are not abominable giving blessings. I am not part of any church. I would be escorted out of whatever church had I try to speak the truth there. Word of mouth from person to person is the best thing coining what I say changing the hearts of men to shrink the lake of fire is what is the best thing right now. When God is in the heart of whoever they will refuse to persecute people whatever the name they go by. Jesus saves. I tried to show that the gay is not the sodomite in a church not wanting worse for anyone like the sodomite outside Lot’s house. The parishioners were beginning to side with me. That is when the pastor had me escorted to the door.
No one said God was incoherent, artie. I said you are incoherent. You don’t think you’re God now, do you? That would be even more of a sign that you need proper mental health care.
No one is going to give you a shot without your permission, artie.
They’ll mainly want to talk to you.
And you can call me any name you wish.
That will not change that I am begging you to get some proper help and I’m doing so because it’s manifest to everyone reading this thread that you are in distress.
God has to be in us to be like Jesus is. Don’t have God in you in spirit see Gods light when it is seen at the second coming or final judgment as hell. Die before final judgment be put in the devils unseen jail. NDE people think mistakenly that that is hell. I see lost souls . I see souls believing devils lies from religions perverting scripture. They like the shedding of blood.
Ungodly religious people have hidden truth in a book in their own hands. 9 places in KJV says the heart figuratively is to be circumcised not the penis tip at all. Deuteronomy 30:6, Deuteronomy 10:16 ;Jeremiah 4:4 , Jeremiah 9:26; Colossians 2:11-15;Acts 7:51;Leviticus 26:41;Romans 2:29, Romans 3, 30, Islamic religious parallels the deceptions of the west. Truth has been hidden in a shroud of darkness. Repent of your devil talk.
The lie about hell from religions made peoiple think they could give judgment. It is given in the legal system that is merciless like the devil is merciless and war that is likewise merciless. That belief system made Kim Jong UN who is a merciless manipulative liar who loves with dissimulation – deception thinking war is justice.
The lie about hell from religions made people think they could give judgment. It is given in the legal system that is merciless like the devil is merciless and war that is likewise merciless. That belief system made Kim Jong UN who is a merciless manipulative liar who loves with dissimulation – deception thinking war is justice.
Internal imbalances can show externally, artie. For example, delusions of martyrdom, claiming to be an anointed prophet speaking directly for God, a persecution complex and bestiality. All of these are medically recognized symptoms of mental illness.
I’m not persecuting you, artie.
Nor am I mocking you.
I’m concerned because you seem particularly incoherent and raving tonight.
You need to get proper psychological care.
Do you have a 311 service in your area? They can direct you to the help you need. If you don’t have 311, call a local hospital. They’ll be glad to steer you to the right place.
Get help, artie. And not from a chiropractor. Jesus was all about healing the sick. He’d want you to get proper help too.
Try it for a month. It’s voluntary. You can stop at any time.
There is no shame in it.
Seriously.
I’m not just asking. I’m doing something I rarely ever do. I’m begging you, artie.
For your own good.
I give verse after verse, and you say I am incoherent? Call God that name. Bow your head in shame. Mine does the Toggle or Grostic. He is the best in the business. I will miss him when he has to retire. You are mocking me mocking God at the same time. You are a soul foolish idiot. Most need a UCS from birth. The atlas is the most unstable bone in the body. I am begging all to be checked by the care I speak of. The kind of care you trust in is related to pharmakeia, witchcraft, sorcery, wizardry. Even the medical field admits that there is aluminum, lead, Mercury and formaldihid in shots.
Sorry missed one. There is bad Chiropractic that twists the neck or pushes down on the upper back or pops the hips or pops the spine between the shoulder blades. That is diversified type of Chiropractor that is not good. Traction does not help either. The good type reposition the atlas into what is called the orthogonal position. The sooner that is done the better. Being checked periodically according to the individual is important. If you have a fall or accident wait a few days before having the UCS measure you. It takes time for internal imbalances to show externally.
Sorry missed one. There is bad Chiropractic that twists the neck or pushes down on the upper back or pops the hips or pops the spine between the shoulder blades. That is diversified type of Chiropractor that is not good Traction does not help either. The good type reposition the atlas into what is called the orthogonal position. The sooner that is done the better. Being checked periodically according to the individual is important. If you have a fall or accident wait a few days before having the UCS measure you. It takes time for internal imbalances to show externally.
Okaaayy, Artie. Now slowly back away from that ledge. You can’t actually fly, you know.
My fursona does not have wings. I am aware of that.
Artie,
Are you the same Artie White Fox interviewed by Insanity Radio on March 1, 2013?
Your intent is to act like a religious Pharisee. I defend people like Jesus would defend people. You wish to condemn. I know what you are thinking. Right now repent of even thinking of acting like a demonic religious person. Judge yourself. Will you do that?
What are you Going to do? Give an accusation or a condemning word or threat like so many people out there being ungodly?
I see it wise to remain in Anonymity. You would treat me like religious people treated Jesus. The people claiming to know truth in religions creating what we have, and you say you have truth? you are self deceived. My qualifications are not of this earth. Had they be I would be in agreement with the the establish idolatrous institutions persecuting the people I defend just like anyone else. You know what I am saying. I am a latter day prophet sent of God. Truly truly flesh and blood did not reveal that indeed I am preaching to the ignorant and ungodly. I also edify the truth where I hear it. Jesus said woe unto you to religious people. Are you awaire of that? Was Jesus a friend of those that were against him? I am serious.
Perversion in not any kind of sex. Defiled is not what satanic religions of the world claim taking Christs name in vain. That is swearing folks. Religions lie, lie, lie lie. All of the words are interrelated. Are you smart enough to figure that out?
Hebrews 12:15; Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled.
Isaiah 59 >>3For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
King James Version
The verse above takes about defiled,and perverse with both not Being sex of any kind.
Matthew 15 >> 11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
All of the words used against naked people, and the sexualities are not what religions claim.
Perversion in not any kind of sex.
Proverbs 17 :23A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment.
Proverbs 15 4A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.
Job 6 >>30Is there iniquity in my tongue? cannot my taste discern perverse things?
King James Version
Proverbs 12 >>8A man shall be commended according to his wisdom: but he that is of a perverse heart shall be despised.
King James Version
Isaiah 30 >>12Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon
King James Version
1 Timothy 6 >>5Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness
King James Version
Deuteronomy 16 >>19Thou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous. Words are perverted not sex of any kind..
Job 8 >>3Doth God pervert judgment? or doth the Almighty pervert justice?
King James Version
Jeremiah 23 >>36And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man’s word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.
Galatians 1 >>7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
King James Version
Ecclesiastes 5 >>8If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province,
King James Version
Micah 3 >>9Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity.
King James Version
King James Version
Pro 19 1Better is The poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lip,and and is a fool,
Are you still a personally appointed messenger of God, artie?
Do you still think having sex with animals is normal?
Chiropractic isn’t going to help.
I am appointed of God. Having sex with animals is normal. How can it not be? We are animals in every which way. I can prove it biblically and scientifically in many ways.
Sorry missed one. There is bad Chiropractic that twists the neck or pushes down on the upper back or pops the hips or pops the spine between the shoulder blades. That is diversified type of Chiropractor that is not good Transaction does not help either. The good type reposition the atlas into what is called the orthogonal position. The sooner that is done the better. Being checked periodically according to the individual is important. If you have a fall or accident wait a few days before having the UCS measure you. It takes time for internal imbalances to show externally.
artiewhitefox:
Offering one’s opinions on matters of general interest while maintaining personal anonymity is perfectly acceptable. Anonymity is highly inappropriate, however, when one holds oneself out as an expert on a subject and dogmatically (and impatiently) asserts that one’s statements represent absolute truth. You fall into the latter category. I have read portions of your blog site. Frankly, much of it is incoherent, as is much of what you have to say here.
I think that it is time for you to reveal your identity and your academic qualifications. I doubt you will do either because you view yourself as some sort of latter-day prophet preaching to the ignorant and the ungodly. But it is wearisome rather than revelatory, boring rather than enlightening and does no favors for those who are friends of religion. I have personally heard more articulate arguments from street corner schizophrenics.
In short, if you wish to engage anyone here in a serious exchange of ideas, you need first to become serious.
I see it wise to remain in Anonymity. You would treat me like religious people treated Jesus. The people claiming to know truth in reliugons creating what we have, and you say you have truth? you are self deceived. My qualifications are not of this earth. Had they be I would be in agreement with the the establish idolatrous institutions persecuting the people I defend just like anyone else. You know what I am saying. I am a latter day prophet sent of God. Truly truly flesh and blood did not reveal that indeed I am preaching to the ignorant and ungodly. I also edify the truth where I hear it. Jesus said woe unto you to religious people. Are you awaire of that? Was Jesus a friend of those that were against him? I am serious.
Perversion in not any kind of sex. Defiled is not what satanic religions of the world claim taking Christs name in vain. That is swearing folks. Religions lie, lie, lie lie. All of the words are interrelated. Are you smart enough to figure that out?
Hebrews 12:15; Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled.
Isaiah 59 >>3For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
King James Version
The verse above takes about defiled,and perverse with both not Being sex of any kind.
Matthew 15 >> 11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
All of the words used against naked people, and the sexualities are not what religions claim.
Perversion in not any kind of sex.
Proverbs 17 :23A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment.
Proverbs 15 4A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.
Job 6 >>30Is there iniquity in my tongue? cannot my taste discern perverse things?
King James Version
Proverbs 12 >>8A man shall be commended according to his wisdom: but he that is of a perverse heart shall be despised.
King James Version
Isaiah 30 >>12Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon
King James Version
1 Timothy 6 >>5Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness
King James Version
Deuteronomy 16 >>19Thou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous. Words are perverted not sex of any kind..
Job 8 >>3Doth God pervert judgment? or doth the Almighty pervert justice?
King James Version
Jeremiah 23 >>36And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man’s word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.
Galatians 1 >>7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
King James Version
Ecclesiastes 5 >>8If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province,
King James Version
Micah 3 >>9Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity.
King James Version
King James Version
Pro 19 1Better is The poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lip,and and is a fool,
Any word can be considered kind in the right context.
“Medication” for example. Or “therapy”.
Medicine is sorry to say related to sorcery. They rely on drugs. Physical therapy cannot hold a candle to Atlas Orthogonal chiropractic, Grostic, NUCCA, Blair being a few. I have something much better. All ages now infants on up in age, http://www.upcspine.com look up practitioners click on it. See where you are on the planet click on that to find one near you or upper cervical heath centers on the web. Put in your zip code to find a UCS only chiropractic practitioner. all ages now. Hate used the words I mentioned to hurt people perverting Gods word. That is not good for the soul that does that. I want to free the people that are persecuted saving the souls of people that persecuted having them willing to hug the people they previously persecuted.
artie, The KJV was written based on a 12th century version with many changes from texts translated from Greek and Latin with added/deleted notes from the monks doing the copying.
know Jesus in his loving character who is God not warring no matter what and you will be guided by the holy spirit into all truth that harms no one avoiding the pit falls the religious people fell into who tried to find fault in Jesus.
Psst, Otteray? Artie has one already, the top post asserting how much love the people who have sex with animals have for their four legged paramour.
So, I just…well, like Forrest Gump, that’s kind of all I have to say about that.
Thank you. At least someone has a kind word. That is refreshing.
artie:
“I have not begun to talk….”
You are pushing your luck. Your arrogance is only exceeded by your lack of respect for others. You are not winning any friends here. If you want to go on at great length and dominate the discussion, suggest you start your own blog.
I have the truth hear ye me. What has been taught by theologians has been idolatry leading to one war after another teaching people like Kim Jong UN that a weapon is power. All need to know the truth. Know it not hiding it.
Artiewhitefox,
Time to take a breath.
I am so sick and tired of people thinking they know what is in the KJV bible. I thought I would giving them a lot of information to digests showing that I am right and people for centuries have been wrong. The wrong people have been is great. The whole KJV has perverted more thane you know in the minds of people. I can say more too. Religious people have lied to people. That is why the world is the way it is. If any one does anything consider my words. Then people will begin to change it into what is good not what it is
The KJV bible is true but people pervert scripture like crazy. Religions pervert the bible so much I don’t know where to begin. I will start with this.
Religions of the world made naughty to mean anything than what the KJV says the word means.
James:1 20 – 21, for the wrath of man worketh not the rightiouness of God. Whearfor lay apart all filthyness ,and superfluidy of naugtyness, Proverbs 17: 4,A wicked doer giveth heed to false lips; and a liar giveth ear to a naughty tongue. Proverbs 6:12 A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a froward mouth.
13 things abominable. Not a one what religions of the world say.
1, Pro, 6: 16,These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
2, Proverbs 21:27: The sacrifice of the wicked is abomination: how much more, when he bringeth it with a wicked mind?3,
3 ” proverbs 15:26 The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the Lord: but the words of the pure are pleasant words”
4, Proverbs 11:20 KJV
King James Version
They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the LORD: but such as are upright in their way are his delight.
5, Proverbs 3:32-33 (King James Version)
32 For the froward is abomination to the LORD: but his secret is with the righteous. 33 The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.
6, King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)Proverbs 16:5,
Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
7, Proverbs 12:22: Lying lips are abomination to the Lord: but they that deal truly are his delight”
Over and over perverse, pervert etc is a said to be a form of sex. The KJV says otherwise.
Proverbs 15 4A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.
I Have 14 more verses saying essentially the same thing.
Religions of the world lie about what Hell is. The SDA church comes the closest but not quite every thing. The do not say Gods light is fire to evil.
Gods light seen to the human that kills or hates not being like Jesus sees God glory as if it was fire = hell. KJV 1 John 1;5, God is light. Heb; 12:29; a consuming fire. James 1:17, Father of lights, Hell is the glorified face of God Moses could not look at or become ashes. That light makes the earth to have no more sea making elements melt, and consumes the wicked around the city of God Rev, 20. Hell is not a place. No lost no lake of fire. Gods light is good to those that love to do good.
God is heaven to those that are merciful forgiving with a childlike heart, not giving evil, loving the outcast like Jesus loved the Samaritans. The Gates of the city of God to the wicked without natural affection, meaning, having no love will see the gates of the city of God as the gates of hell. They will never be able to enter them becoming less than nothing. Religions have been crafty hiding what hell is. The devil wanted people to think God was a god of war to justify war in the eyes of men.