The Palinotologists are back. A Kansas school district is refusing to back down from a plan for mandatory assemblies featuring a creationist group to explain the history of dinosaurs. Despite overwhelming data and testing showing the world is millions of years old, many creationists insist that Earth is only a few thousand years old. Dinosaurs represent a bit of a problem of course. The solution, as famously stated by that American intellectual Sarah Palin, is that men co-existed with dinosaurs. Hugoton Public Schools invited Creation Truth Foundation’s founder Dr. G. Thomas Sharp to teach the “Truth about Dinosaurs” at two assemblies. Hugoton Public Schools superintendent Mark Crawford however insists that students must hear about science from this biblically based group.
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has warned the district that such assemblies cross the line into religious indoctrination. The group is committed to a biblical understanding of dinosaurs. The group features such sites as “Darwin was wrong” to correct fundamental misunderstandings of evolution. The group however denounces science as a threat to faith:
The basic reason for these problems, however, is the absence of belief in the Bible as basic truth, especially within the realm of science. If one cannot believe the Bible is true in one area, then the Bible’s authority in all areas is questionable. Therefore, believing in the scientific and historic truth of the Bible is pivotal to belief in God’s Word as absolute Truth.
Crawford refused to the cancel the event by insisting the group will not teach creationism. However, this is a religiously based group that rejects evolution and is committed to denying evolution. Why ask this group? The group treats dinosaurs as seductive items used by secularists (he spends a huge amount of time arguing with Jurassic Park, the movie).
In this video, Thomas works to convince people that there is no more objective basis for evolution than creationism so you can simply pick one over the other. It is full of misrepresentations of the geological and paleontological records. He insists that God made “God’s Gospel lizards” on day six and they were taken on the ark by Noah (but just “young folks” among the dinosaurs):
Thomas denounces those who ignore the key of Adam’s sin in this record as his concept of science and resisting the secular conspiracy to “dumb down” students. The use of such a science-denying group to teach about dinosaurs is shocking. Kansas has a huge dinosaur collection and countless experts. Yet, Crawford found this group?
It is difficult to find much of Crawford’s background beyond his degrees from Emporia State University, Wichita State University, and Southwestern College.
As for Thomas, his scientific knowledge comes from B.S. (Bachelor of Science) from Purdue University, obtained a Master’s at the University of Oklahoma, and a Ph.D from South Florida Bible College and Seminary. In the video above, Thomas asks the crowd if they ever wondered why science used Latin (and the metric system) rather than English to confuse and disadvantage laypersons in understanding it. The lecture turns back to the Bible to show that it was accurate and mentioned dinosaurs by other terms like dragons. He also tells people that there are “lots of evidence” of dinosaurs living with men that prove that they were created by God the day before the creation of man. The lecture is actually fascinating in how pseudo-scientific claims can be twisted to suggest an objective basis to disprove evolution and to show that the “biblical view” is the only true view.
Coming to a Kansas school near you . . .
Source: Raw Story
That was to LK…
Well J,
You know The difference between Southern Baptist and Northern Baptist, right?
The Northern Baptist say there ain’t no Hell and The Southern Baptist say the Hell there ain’t….
There’s apparently a lot of indoctrination going around:
“Mississippi high school forces students to attend Christian lectures: lawsuit”
“A high school in central Mississippi allegedly forced students to watch a Christian video and listen to church officials preach about Jesus Christ.
The American Humanist Association’s legal center filed a lawsuit against Northwest Rankin High School in Flowood on Wednesday, accusing the school of violating the student’s First Amendment rights.
The school has held at least three mandatory assemblies about finding hope in Jesus Christ this month, according to the lawsuit. The assemblies showed a video laced with Christian messages about overcoming personal hardships through Jesus Christ and were allegedly led by local church officials. ….
The assemblies concluded with a prayer and teachers blocked the exits to prevent students from leaving, the lawsuit claimed. A disillusioned student videotaped one of the assemblies.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/25/mississippi-high-school-forced-students-to-attend-christian-lecture/
IIRC, Christopher Robin found dinosaurs in the park. Right? A.A. Milne actually debunked all that scientific clap-trap himself in a children’s story!
Hubert Cumberdale:
Fell free to provide a link.
So on one hand, it’s ok for the schools to teach a belief in evolutionism, with a captive audience, no options on other theories, and it’s forbidden to question the adult fairytale also known as evolutionism, but on the other hand you can’t have any other belief, or even entertain the notion of teaching other possibilities.
“Despite overwhelming data and testing showing the world is millions of years old, many creationists [sic] insist…”
I have to call BS on this one. There is NOT “overwhelming evidence” about the age of the earth being such an astronomical amount. There are problems with even the most modern dating methods. Remember the Indian village found in a lava flow near the Grand Canyon? Are best dating methods had that area to be millions of years old. However the big problem is the Indian village camp remnants that were found date the flow to only a couple thousand years old.
Also it’s interesting to note that the alleged age of the earth has increased exponentially only after a few decades. Every several years, the age of the earth is increased from millions to billions of years old. That’s a big red flag waving and demonstrating that we haven’t a clue how old the earth is.
So it’s laughable when so many who entertain such stupid belief systems as evolution have the gall, the audacity to ridicule someone who recognizes the earth is a creation and things are CREATED, and logically, creation has a Creator.
“So on one hand, it’s ok for the schools to teach a belief in evolutionism, with a captive audience, no options on other theories, and it’s forbidden to question the adult fairytale also known as evolutionism, but on the other hand you can’t have any other belief, or even entertain the notion of teaching other possibilities.”
Hubert,
what you refuse to acknowledge is that evolution has been backed up by numerous experiments and research. This is how science works. “Creationism” is backed up by words in the bible and nothing else. Evolution is taught in science classes anbd represents the best in scientific knowledge. If somebody, via the scientific method comes up with a theory that shows evolution to be false then that too would be taught. The creationist beliefs being promulgated by you and others actually represent a minority of Christians. Most Christian religious leaders and doctrines acknowledge evolution. That you and your allies choose to think differently is your right. Please stop trying to indoctrinate and proselytize your beliefs upon people who are not interested.
AYY:
Not true. I addressed the Snopes article by pointing out that it had nothing to do with what Professor Turley wrote.
Irrelevant to what Professor Turley actually wrote.
So, the Palin spokesman didn’t deny the story.
Nal, Prof Tuirley didn’t cite the basis for his statement, and hasn’t responded to my comment. You haven’t addressed the Snopes article. It’s been well documented that the left just made up quotes and attributed them to Sarah Palin during the 2008 election.
So the LA Times sends a reporter up to Alaska to dig up dirt on Palin, when they don’t send anyone to Chicago to investigate Obana, and what does the ace reporter find to justify the time and expense of going to Alaska– why, a guy who writes a progressive bllog. They don’t verify the story, and a Palin spokesman says he’s never heard of it.
I don’t know if that was what Prof Turley was relying on, because he didn’t tell us, but if it was, he should have mentioned that it was from the LA Times interview of a progressive blogger, so of course it had to be reliable.
AYY,
Nal provided you proof that she said it. However, that doesn’t matter to you since you only used this as an excuse to try to castigate those you think of as liberals. In that you bot reveal ignorance of Professor Turley’s political stances which are hardly doctrinaire liberal. Also the truth is that you in defending Palin are defending someone of limited intellectual curiosity and an unending seeker of money and fame beyond her talents. Kim Kardashian would make a better VP than Palin and I don’t think that much of Kim’s talents either.
Nal,
Even while they know their theory has been debunked…. Most folks are basically incapable of admitting that they are capable of being incorrect…. They either ignore the facts that hit them in the face, or they blow more smoke… And try and recruit allies…. It’s very obvious from where I sit….
AYY,
Palin canny on religion and politics
ANCHORAGE — Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago — about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct — the teacher said.
Which is exactly what Professor Turley wrote. Your link has nothing about how dinosaurs and men coexisted. I think you owe Professor Turley an apology.
Mike, So are you saying that it’s Sarah Palin’s fault that Prof. Turley’s computer doesn’t have Snopes?
Prof. Turley,
Palinotogists? Good heavens. You owe Sarah Palin and your readers an apology. It took me about 30 seconds to find out that the statement attributed to Sarah Palin about dinosaurs was made up . She never said it.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/newsquotes.asp
Dont’t they have Snopes on your computer?
“You owe Sarah Palin and your readers an apology.”
AVY,
Sarah Palin owes this country an apology for not fading back into obscurity after running for Vice President and turning herself into a reality star. She demeaned the already demeaned office of Vice President by exhibiting a complete ignorance of our Constitutional System. She proved her commitment by resigning halfway through her term as Governor in search of big bucks. she is a clown and anyone who doesn’t understand that must have their perception questioned. Also don’t you recognize an ironic joke when you see one?
Sounds like a lecture by dinosaurs.
RTC: