Rational or Hysterical? Oregon Police Burst Into School Wearing Hoodies and Firing Weapons In Unannounced Drill

300px-Bullet_coming_from_S&WTeachers were in a meeting in the Pine Eagle Charter School in Halfway, Oregon when two hooded figures burst into the room and sprayed screaming teachers with gunfire. It turned out to be blanks and they turned out to be cops. This was viewed as a useful drill to prepare the teachers for school massacre scenarios.

Such an unannounced exercise could just as well have resulted in a heart attack or other medical emergency. It is not clear what the teachers learned much beyond what it is like to be shot.

Principal Cammie DeCastro noted that they learned that few people would survive among the 15 teachers. Only two were not hit by the spray of gunfire. It is not clear why actually shooting teachers was needed for that particular lesson or what they got from that realization even if they could not have anticipated it.

Elementary teacher Dollie Beck, 54, said that she learned to keep her classroom door locked and to think of windows as escape routes.

By the way, Halfway has a population of only 288. One teacher explained that the exercise was needed because “We are tender-hearted people who give hugs all day. We don’t think like that.”

The question is whether it is necessary to think like that in such exercises. I think it is wise to train staff on all such emergencies but we are seeing districts giving teachers bulletproof shields and arming janitors. Even if you are going to carry out exercises, such unannounced attacks present other risks of actual heart attacks and panic attacks as part of the faux victims. Fortunately, unlike other ill-conceived pranks and exercises, the students were not present for the Oregon practice massacre.

Source: OregonLive

97 thoughts on “Rational or Hysterical? Oregon Police Burst Into School Wearing Hoodies and Firing Weapons In Unannounced Drill”

  1. Now Class. Claaaasssss! Quit quibbling. Did I spull that right? Ok, call me dumb. DumbDog ain’t here today.

  2. You mean like you signal us when you’re about to speak by playing your theme music, bill?

  3. Mike – you’re a comedian. I wish that you could come up with some way to signal us when you are about to say something serious.

  4. D. — You can’t be, so give it up already. If you are unable or incapable of examining evidence objectively, then at least have the good sense to keep your pie hole shut.

    I only post comments for the benefit of the few people here that aren’t brainwashed by MSM.

    BTW, I think I know what your sock puppet name is at the JREF site.

  5. Mr. mcwiliams:

    Several years ago, Vince Treacy and I were publicly denounced on the Natural Born Citizen birther site as “perfect examples of lawyers giving unsupported, inaccurate interpretations of the law.” Some people are simply not happy unless there is a conspiracy to wrap their imaginations around.

    I have followed your comments on various threads on this site and have concluded that you are probably one of those people. If conspiracies were lollipops, I do believe you would be a full-blown diabetic by now.

  6. “duck and cover” is also effective in instilling a bit of anxiety in the students but it’s much less traumatic and there’s little chance of anyone getting shot accidentally.

    Seriously, schools already have procedures for lock downs. Review of these procedures and maybe an occasional drill to make sure everyone knows the procedures should be sufficient.

  7. ot ot but in a school. Her crime, apparently, was in conducting the experiment without instructor supervision


    Kiera Wilmot was a typical 16-year-old honor student at Bartow Senior High School, in Bartow, Florida. She’s never been in trouble. She has a reputation for being nice to everyone, getting straight As, and loving science.

    But then a science experiment Wilmot conducted on school grounds went slightly wrong.

    At 7 a.m. on Monday April 30, Wilmot and a yet-to-be-named friend mixed aluminum foil and toilet bowl cleaner in a small water bottle. After about 30 seconds, the reaction created pressure inside the bottle, blowing the cap off with a pop that according to witnesses sounded like firecrackers going off.

    (Instructions to make this explosion, called a “works bomb,” are freely available online. The aluminum in the foil reacts with sodium hydroxide in the cleaner. The reaction produces hydrogen gas, which quickly builds the pressure inside the closed bottle until the plastic can’t take it any more and explodes outwards.)

    The reaction created a small amount of smoke. Her friend walked away, and the Assistant Principal Dan Durham walked over.

    No one was hurt by the “explosion,” but later that day Wilmot was handcuffed, arrested, and expelled from school. According to the police report, she has been charged with two felonies: “possession/discharge of a weapon on school grounds” and “discharging a destructive device.”

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/kiera-wilmot-arrested-for-science-explosion-2013-5#ixzz2SAtt5Q2k

  8. After reading this story, I suddenly feel nostalgia for those simpler days of duck and cover drills at Melbourne Elementary.

  9. Bill,

    There nothing about you worthy of respect so how could I be disrespectful?

  10. Darren, your inability to counter an argument with anything more than disrespectful, ignorant remarks says plenty about your character and your lack of an informed mind.

  11. These people (who burst into schools with faked up “special effects” guns and ammo) have been trained on video games and violent movies and myths of “self-defense” and total bull-shoit. In the name of their own alleged Second Amendment rights they trample on other people’s right to not be assaulted, terrorized, traumatized, psychologically and even physically disturbed, you name it, really constituting the other people’s LIFE INTEREST. For what? To test out an inane theory that the vulnerability to terror tactics should make people become more belligerent? That more belligerent people would be more likely to train for militaristic actions? That they’d buy more guns? They’d also buy more psychotropic drugs; they’d use more medical and psychiatric services; they’d suffer more flashbacks and nightmares; they’d feel more nervous and defensive at all times.

    My son once had a college kid aim a gun at his head (did not shoot) and the experience negatively affected him for years. I cannot imagine that someone would endure what these conscience-free fools did in that school without protest. After all, those countries who “hate us” because we have “freedom” — do their governments burst into their schools with armed shooters spraying fake bullets all around in THEIR best interests? If so, don’t we think ill of THEM?

  12. Elaine,
    I didn’t realize the 5 year owned the gun when I first saw the headline. A real gun for a 5 year old? Wow.

  13. Bill

    If you had any credibility what you say might be interpreted as relevant, but unless someone is like minded to you (like those on stormfront.org or who listen to and believe the Art Bell show), or they are another one of your sock puppet creations, they are not going to believe you.

    You have already demonstrated to every rational mind here the caliber of your arguments, so go ahead; continue to reinforce everyone’s belief of you.

    Howl at the moon if you like, whatever makes you happy.

  14. Darren; You seem to now be a full-fledged member of the “Head in the Sand” wing of the Teavee Party.

    I think the only conspiracies you believe are government conspiracies like
    Bush’s “OBL and 19 young A Rabs defeat entire U.S. National Security defense strategy” Adam Lanza dies on one day then returns the next to
    stage shootout at SHook. Zombie?

  15. bigfatmike,

    Many non-lethal things/crowd dispersants can become lethal when one is not careful with how one uses it. I remember what happened to a young female student in Boston nearly a decade ago:

    Postgame police projectile kills an Emerson student
    O’Toole accepts responsibility but condemns acts of ‘punks’
    By Thomas Farragher and David Abel
    The Boston Globe
    October 22, 2004

    An Emerson College junior, drawn to Fenway Park to toast the first Red Sox pennant in 18 years, was killed yesterday, shot in the eye by a projectile fired by police seeking to disperse revelers who authorities said threatened to spin out of control.

    Victoria Snelgrove, a 21-year-old journalism student from East Bridgewater, was struck by a pepper-spray-filled plastic ball at about 1:30 a.m., some 90 minutes after the Red Sox celebrated on the infield at Yankee Stadium, provoking an estimated 80,000 jubilant and mostly young fans to converge on Kenmore Square.

    Police said they intended the pepper-spray balls, propelled by a compressed air system similar to those used in paintball guns, to be “less than lethal.”

  16. ‘So what liability would the police have if someone had a heart attack?’

    What would the liability be if one of the teachers had responded forcefully to the pseudo attackers?

    Some have mentioned rubber bullets. Rubber bullets are usually non lethal. But they are damaging and they can cause serious injury at close range. Even blanks are dangerous. The wadding material from blanks have been known to maim and kill.

    I can’t think of any safe way to fire real guns at citizens.

    People who do that ought to be charged with a crime regardless of their intention.

  17. Nothing better than teachers being used as props in the “authorities” unannounced play time at the school, except of course when the “authorities” decide to employee school children as props without parental consent.

  18. The Worst Quote Of The Day
    By Charles P. Pierce
    May 2, 2013

    So, tout le monde — as we say around the still in the holler — is talking about the very tragic events down in old Kaintuck’, where you can kilt you a b’ar when you is only three.

    “A five-year-old boy in the southern US state of Kentucky has accidentally shot dead his two-year-old sister at the family home. He had received the rifle, specially made for children, as a gift last year.”

    A rifle, specially made for children. Think about it. Some sales rep at a gun manufacturer pipes up at a sales meeting, “Hey, maybe there’s a market for kiddie guns! No, I mean real guns. With bullets!” Everybody cheers and the guy gets a raise, and nobody stops for a second and says, “You know, we don’t trust our five-year olds with matches. Maybe guns should wait until, I dunno, middle school.” Anyway, roll that one around in your head for a second as we continue into our regular feature, This Week In Responsible Gun Ownership:

    “Reports say the weapon had been kept in a corner and the family had not realised it still contained a bullet.”

    I realize that I am just a pointy-headed liberal elitist who doesn’t understand the importance of guns to some of my fellow citizens, but even I know that “Is this thing loaded?” is an important question to teach your five-year old when you give him his first firearm on the day he accepts Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior and Wayne LaPierre as his personal spokesman.

    Nobody in this story is ever going to be the same. I can’t imagine the trauma the family’s going through. The little girl is dead and the little boy is going to carry this moment to his grave. Luckily, though, there was a local official to explain it all to the visiting media.

    “It’s a normal way of life. I mean, folks – and it’s not just rural Kentucky, it’s rural America. I mean folks hunting and fishing, it’s sports shooting – it’s just a way of life. You know, you begin at an early age, learning to use and respect a gun,” said Joe Phelps, Cumberland County Judge Executive, whose position has been described as similar to that of a local mayor.



    Also, too: goddammit.

    Up with this, I no longer have to put. If your “way of life” involves handing deadly weapons to five-year olds, your way of life is completely screwed up and you should change it immediately because it is stupid and wrong. (And, again, also, too: goddammit, “learning to use and respect a gun” means at least knowing that the fking thing is loaded when it’s sitting in the corner of the parlor like it’s a damn umbrella stand or something, and we should talk about that part, too.) It is not in any way “normal” to hand a kindergartner a firearm. If a mother from the inner-city of, say, Philadelphia did that, and the kid subsequently shot his sister to death, Fox News never would stop yelling about the crisis in African American communities and the Culture Of Death, and rap music, too. If your culture is telling you that children who have only recently emerged from toddlerhood should have their own guns, then your culture is deadly and dangerous and that should concern you, too. If your culture demands that, in the face of a general national outrage over the killing of other children, your politics work to loosen the gun laws you have, as they apparently did in Kentucky, then your culture is making your politics stupid and wrong and you should change them, too. I do not have to understand these people any more, and it is way too early in the day to be drinking this much.

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