New York Democrats must have the weakest bench of leaders in the country. Otherwise, it is hard to see how two disgraced politicians in sex scandals could be leading in the polls to resume power. On one hand you have Elliot Spitzer who, while Governor, used call girls with regularity. He now appears to be praying himself into the comptroller’s office at churches and synagogues. Then you have Anthony Weiner who sent out disgusting pictures of his genitals to women, lied to the press and public, and engaged in conduct that would be at best considered sexual harassment and at worst stalking. Yet, he is leading in the polls for a race for mayor of New York. Now, Weiner is again before the public asking for forgiveness — this time for new pictures and messages sent after his resignation and the birth of his child by his ever forgiving wife. Some as recently as last summer. By the way, Weiner now appears to go under the nom de guerre of Carlos Danger. It is not clear if he will use that name as mayor or just use it when he sends women pictures of himself in various obscene poses.
The most recent disclosures involved text messages with an unidentified 23-year-old woman that took place on the social media website Formspring in August 2012. That date is important because it is a full a year after his tearful apology for lying to the public, attacking the media, and effectively stalking women with pictures of his genitalia and naked shots of his body. It was seven months after the birth of his child with Huma Abedin, former aide to Hillary Clinton and half of this political power couple. She insisted “What I want to say . . . I have forgiven him, I believe in him” and said that Weiner made “horrible mistakes, both before he resigned from Congress, and after.” That’s it? Sure he made horrible mistakes while in office and then did them again after being forced out of office, but I believe in him. I am not sure why voters would care that this power couple is so self-perpetuating or self-forgiving but then again I did not understand so many Democrats defending his return to politics. [The same phenomenon is evident with Spitzer who served as New York State Attorney General while committing crimes that others were being jailed for. Yet, Democrats still insist that such hypocrisy should not bar him from office. It is once again an example of the ruling elite on America’s Animal Farm. It does not matter that these were crimes and that Spitzer was putting others in jail. While many of us have questioned the prosecution of prostitution, Spitzer was the chief law enforcement officer and held others to a different standard than himself.]
Weiner told the public “I want to bring my vision to the people of the city of New York. I hope they are willing to still continue to give me a second chance.” This would seem a third chance, but if you were willing to consider him after the first chance, I suppose the number will not matter much. It is clearly not a deal breaker for Abedin.
CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash noted that Abedin appears to have been trained by the best for the life of the power couple and ruling elite: “she learned at the knee of Hillary Clinton, somebody who most famously stood by her man politically. And so she’s following in those footsteps.”
As for the woman who Weiner offered to help find a position and a condo, she now feels betrayed. A curious position for a woman who engaged in phone sex with a married man but she stated “I just want people to really know he’s lying when he acts like he has changed.” It is a morality play without a single moral player or concluding moral message. This is truly becoming Felliniesque. If you want to see why our leaders treat us with such open contempt, consider the one in four polled New York voters who want to make this man mayor of their city.
The tweets also involve Weiner offering to find the woman a job, condo in Chicago for their encounters and requests that she delete the messages. This included using his influence to secure a job for the woman as a blogger for Politico. The woman was in this case a willing recipient of the messages and said that they had phone sex and exchanged nude pictures. One site said that Carlos Dangers was corresponding with a Sydney Leathers in late July, described as a “progressive activist” from Indiana. Dangers and Leathers. No wonder the New York Times (only now) is calling for Weiner to leave the race.
With Abedin at his side, Weiner just repeated his earlier heartfelt apologies almost verbatim: “As I have said in the past, these things that I did were wrong and hurtful to my wife and caused us to go through challenges in our marriage that extended past my resignation from Congress. While some things that have been posted today are true and some are not, there is no question that what I did was wrong. This behavior is behind me.” Well not as far behind you as we thought. As for the timing, Weiner said “Some of these things happened before my resignation, some happened after.” For most of us, that is more than a simple timing issue. It means that after the whole act about contrition for attacking reporters and lying to everyone, he went back to photographing himself in the nude and sextexting.
Abedin immediately said that again she forgives him and indicated that she thinks the world of him or Carlos Danger or both.
As for the woman he was going to get a condo in Chicago for, their relationship “fizzled” in November 2012. She says “even post scandal, I thought he was misunderstood. Until I got to know him. I thought I loved him. Pretty pathetic.” Yes it is but not quite as pathetic as New York democrats pushing Anthony Weiner for mayor of New York. Of course, now if you elect Weiner, you get his raunchier more edgy personality as Carlos Danger as a bonus.
3rd parties are the only hope for this nation as far as correcting the political process through elections.
There was a saying in the early 2000s:
I trust George Bu**sh** with my daughters. I trust Bill Clinton with my job.
I am as revolted as anyone by the personal actions of sex perverts like those. But if the only choice is (a) Eliot Spitzer hiring hookers while holding wall street accountable for its crimes, or (b) rightwing puppets like Obama handing taxpayer dollars to and writing laws of benefit for the rich, I’ll take the first option.
SwM,
I’m going to wait and see how the Independence Party does but I can’t really accept Spitzer … rather like the other guy, Stringer. Moot of course. If you get a chance, check out the link I posted on the ACLU thread.
As to A.W. … never in a million years … just too creepy
There are third parties on the ballot. The independence party is even having a primary.
Weiner’s wife forgave him now he wants to be elected as mayor. He didn’t repent, still flashing after he resigned. This guy’s a real creep. Don’t go away mad just go away.
Spitzer is a sociopath and a horrible politician. He has the same personality of Bob Filner, mayor of San Diego. When Spitzer was governor, Albany was completely dysfunctional. The man needs sedation and institutionalization.
Huma must have as much lust for power as this shitbird. These are the ilk that run this country. Perverts, sociopaths, money grabbers, elitists, and the spouses that enable them. But..we don’t need no stinkin’ other parties.
Also, Spitzer’s primary opponent,Scott Stringer, is very qualified and has been endorsed by Planned Parenthood and NARAL.
How does one spull his name? I thought it was Weiner. That indicates that he hails from Vienna. The guys at Ellis Island transposed his name and city of origin when grandpa and grandma got off the boat. His real name is Peckerhead. If you Google his full name and date of birth all of this comes out in the wash.
If the Yorkies vote for the Wiener then they deserve whatever they get. When he comes on television here at the marina where the dogpac hangs out we break out into a certain song. Its called the Armour Hotdog Song.
Hotdogs, Armour Hotdogs!
What kind of dogs eat Armour Hotdogs?
Fat dogs, skinny dogs,
Dogs who climb on rocks.
Bent dogs, crooked dogs,
Even dogs with chicken pox!
Like Hotdogs, Armour Hotdogs.
The Dogs, Dogs like to Bite!
[next verse]
Wiener, He’s a Hotdog!
What kind of perps like Wiener hotdogs….
—end
It goes on from there but its too defamatory of Anthony Wiener to post on the blog.
oops for her…
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/nyt-siena-17696 The lastest poll which was done last week has Quinn leading in the democratic primary 27 to 18 for Weiner. These latest disclosures might seal the deal for in the Sept. 10 primary.
“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
-Albert Einstein
I am speaking of the voters and political donors, not the people running.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/15/nyregion/courting-group-of-voters-with-a-strict-moral-code-weiner-faces-a-challenge.html?pagewanted=all The ultra orthodox over divided over Weiner.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/nyregion/christine-c-quinn-council-speaker-to-be-endorsed-by-emilys-list.html?_r=0 Christine Quinn is the candidate endorsed by the women’s groups.
There are two other qualified democrats in the primary and the polls are very close. If I lived there I would vote for Spitzer as he is super qualified for the job but probably not Weiner after these new disclosures.
Could of should of would of,
During this facade embarrassing “News briefing”, His wife could of taken out a frying pan and knocked him over the head with it. Then she should of announced her immediate plans to divorce this low ethic cheater. At that time I wish she would have announced that she was running for mayor.
Dollars to donuts I bet she will poll higher than Carlos Danger!! :o)
This very capable woman hitched her wagon to a clown.
Oh my…. Ego vs principle….
I was minimally rooting for the Wein because he was once a strong voice, particularly when debating insanity over on Faux News. But the repeat behavior is arguably worse than the initial string of behavior.
Moral relativism aside, he embarrassed himself and risked the love of his own family — again — which further suggest someone who probably shouldn’t serve public office. It’s clear that his trustworthiness will always be questionable, making him the story rather than the issues of those he may soon represent.
I’d still like to see him exert influence on politics, but at this point not from within politics. If he lies to those he loves, he has the demonstrated capacity to lie as mayor in order to cover himself. And with the amount of actual problems going on, more time shouldn’t be wasted on those who claim to want to solve said problems. A think-tank therefore may suit him better.
All that said, just look at Vitter. In the end, anything is possible.
This tiger cannot change its strips. (or its stripes either)
What a joke. I have to agree, with all the scandal he brings into the offices he seeks surely there should be someone out there that would do a suitable job that could replace Anthony Weiner as a serious candidate. He should do the honorable thing and go away.