Jehovah’s Witnesses in Arkansas will soon be called to be witnesses of a different kind for John Baldwin, 35. Baldwin is charged with aggravated assault after firing 13 times at the Jehovah’s Witnesses who approached him in his front yard. After Baldwin told Laura Goforth, 47, and Rachel Boshears, 55, to get off his lawn, the Jehovah’s Witnesses were leaving when one of them heard Baldwin tell his wife “Get me my 9.” (A referenced to his Springfield XDM-9). While Isaiah 43:10 may proclaim “Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen,” these pious folk will soon be called by a more earthly authority to bear witness.
Baldwin only moved into the neighborhood a month ago. The victims were from Kingdom Hall Jehovah’s Witnesses Church in Bentonville. They noted that they have a no contact list but that Baldwin was not on it. He appears to find it easier to express such preferences more directly. They say that Baldwin told them to “Get your fucking ass off my property. I moved out here to get away from people like you.” He reportedly told police that the women did not immediately leave but instead were “Lolly Gaggin” around their car. So how Baldwin then concluded that the best way to stop the “Lolly Gaggin” was with a hail of 9 mm slugs.
The women could also sue for assault in torts. This would seem a pretty clear case of acting “to cause a harmful or offensive contact with the person of the other or a third person, or an imminent apprehension of such a contact.” Then they might end up owning not just the lawn but his house as well.
He could now face jail time after being released on a $50,000 bond. It is not clear if Jehovah’s Witnesses are allowed to visit prisoners in Arkansas, but one can always hope.
Your fear is not required.
Or do you wish to avoid your views further?
Nick
I’m a veteran of these disquisitions at this blog and beyond in the hinterlands of the Internet. I’m not afraid of these pip-squeaks.
No, Tooite. It was never a Christian Nation. Religious pluralism and the freedom from state sanctioned religions or religious favoritism is in the 1st Amendment for a reason.
Because of your past statements trying to enforce your religious morals on others via force of law for one, Tootie.
That by definition makes you a theocrat.
Or have you changed your stance on abortion and other topics since your last visit?
Update.
It WAS a Christian nation. For a very long time.
Not at all, nick. Tootie is perfectly capable of drawing her own fire. Despite what you like to think, not everything is about you.
Gene
This a Christian nation. It is not a Christian government. Otter said don’t ascribe to others that which they never said. I don’t believe I ascribed to Otter something he/she did not say.
Surely you did.
I wonder why? Bigoted? Hater? Bully? Fink? Creep? Imbecile? What are you Gene and why do you spread falsehoods here about me and a supposed support for a “theocracy”?
Jerk?
Missed my point. However, I think I owe Tootie an apology. She is now drawing my fire. Sorry, woman.
“Missed my point. However, I think I owe Tootie an apology. She is now drawing my fire. Sorry, woman.”
Nick,
I think you two are natural allies, but perhaps you can learn from her because besides some of her outrageous views, Tootie goes out of her way not to attack people gratuitously.
Tootie operates under the mistaken impression this is a “Christian Nation”. Tootie is a well known factor here – a voice from the past – and if you find theocracy impressive, I suppose she is.
Tootie,
Be careful when you try to attribute things to me that I never said. When people do that, it never turns out well.
First of all, Obama may be a lot of things, but he is not a Muslim, and even if he were, so what. Battered as it may be, the First Amendment is still supposed to be in force.
As for your claim of tracing stuff back to John the Baptist. I know quite a bit about genealogical and historical research. There is no way in hell (pun intended) that you can find an unbroken line leading back two thousand years to a man who was himself murdered. And who possibly was, in today’s terminology, schizophrenic.
Have a nice day. I need to do some chores and get back to work.
Tootie must have some compromising photos of Guest Bloggers. He/she comes in her throwing haymakers against Obama and atheists and gets a pass. I am impressed.
If this guy doesnt go to jail we know one thing for sure: shooting at people who spread the word of the Lord (regardless of from where they spread it or under whatever name they choose) is not an offense that lands you in prison. He should A) go to prison, and B) lose all rights to own a firearm (I know he will still be able to get one in our crazy country. But he should NOT be allowed to own one legally and if he does get another gun, he should be sent straight back to jail for owning one. If there is a god, his wife will be leaving him any day.
Otter ..1:15pm…October 3
I’m glad you agree with me that people who claim to be Christians may not be. Clinton, bush, and Herr Obama, all claimants guilty of slaughtering the innocent and lawlessness.
All of them, except the current president are either pagans or atheists in deed.
Obama appears to be, in my opinion, a Muslim. His schemes which have resulted in the slaughter of ancient Christian communities in the Middle East speaks more to his true belief than his lie that he is a follower of Christ. Not to mention his membership the Democratic Party, which when compared with the precepts of Christ is mutually exclusive.
My line of Christianity, fundamentalist, independent Baptist is traced to the Huguenots as well with my relatives on my fathers side also coming from France to Canada.
I take it all the way back through the Waldensians to John the Baptist. I don’t ally myself with the Protestant branches. I’m a Baptist, from the line of John and we touch the Protestants only tangentially.
A person familiar with the teachings of Christ knows that “in me dwelleth no good thing”. They would stand opposed to Christ if they presumed otherwise. I guess outsiders develop that theme more than Christians.
That said, a Christian is not to believe HE or SHE is good, but he or she is nevertheless to pursue goodness as God defines it in scripture. And the evidence of our faith to those around us, including those within the Christian community, is our ACTIONS or conduct. A person claiming to be Christian but rapes, murders, steals, etc., is by default a non-believer as well as a liar. Simpletons and/or malicious persons do not make this distinction.
TEOTWAWKI run amuck.
Tootie sez: “And only a nitwit thinks Christianity advocates murder.
The source of that citation? The New Testament”
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Tootie, sometimes there is a difference between Christianity and Christians. I say that as a descendant of people who came to these shores from France, Scotland and Ireland to get away from “Christians” of the day. In fact, my first known ancestor to these shores was a Huguenot who got out of France in 1629 one jump ahead of Cardinal Richelieu’s hangmen. The first thing he did was change his name from the French to an English-sounding name.
I am not impressed by claims of people being “good Christians.”
I find that non-violent communication works best. Example: I’m so glad you have something that you believe. So do I and I’m really not interested in another point of view. Besides, I’m really busy right now. Good-bye. [door closes]
Psmith
Oh I’m just yanking the chain of the fundamentalist atheist goons who frequent this blog. They are such royal bigots.
And only a nitwit thinks Christianity advocates murder.
The source of that citation? The New Testament
Cite a source, tootie. It sounds like you’re talking out of your posterior. Is that where your head is?
Not a single news source mentions Baldwin’s religious preference or church, or lack thereof. Just because the news doesn’t mention him being a christian doesn’t mean he isn’t a christian. Plenty of fundamentalist christians consider JWism to be a satanic cult and actively speak or act against them. Until he says his own beliefs or his membership in a group or church is confirmed, you’re only displaying your smug ignorance and arrogance.
He could quite easily be a hardcore christian. The media deliberately avoids mentioning the religion of criminal perpetrators unless the person was a pastor, a priest or employed by a church. A Tulsa megachurch employee who raped a teenage girl INSIDE the church, and the media tried to call him an “ex-employee”. The nutbag who shot up a sikh temple in Wisconsin was a christian identity white supremacist. And during Jeffrey Dahmer’s trial it was never mentioned by the media that he and his parents were fundamentalist christians. That fact only became known after conviction (see also: BTK serial killer Dennis Rader, top layman in his protestant church).
Speaking from ignorance doesn’t make for a winning argument. It only displays the fact that you’re ignorant.
I can understand his feelings, I lost my wife some 7 months ago to what the Medical Examiner says was a suicide. This Suicide can be connected to both Jehovah’s Witness Doctrine and also how ones in there Church treat ones that find faith somewhere else. I can tell you that as I went throw the different stages of morning I thought about what I could do to them if they ever showed up on my door step. I can also tell you as a former Jehovah’s Witness that it isn’t as easy as the article says, there are books that Witnesses use to continue even after someone says no, I have been at peoples doors with someone that keep on pushing for a half an hour after the person said no and when they tried to close the door the person put there foot in the door. Most reports get one side of the story. I couldn’t say that I don’t understand what he felt because of what has happened in my life and with my family.
Yep, it’s classic atheist conduct.