They Killed Him So Let’s Make a Buck

Submitted By: Mike Spindell, Guest Blogger

JFKRiceUniversityI’ve written before about the fact that the murder of JFK in Dallas was to me the most traumatic national experience in my life and the fact that I think it changed the destiny of our country in a negative fashion. I think that for many around my age this is also true, but it is now fifty years past and the majority of Americans have no real knowledge of it. The trauma of that day and the ensuing events of history have left me with an admittedly irrational repugnance towards the city of Dallas and I feel almost a shudder when I hear of Dealey Plaza, where the murder took place. These feelings are so intense that I doubt that I will ever visit Dallas in my lifetime, much less go to Dealey Plaza. When I got my weekly E Mail from my favorite investigative journalism website I took note of an article about the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza. The article was a humorous look at the potential for Christmas gifts that might be available at the museum’s gift shop and of course provided a link to the museum’s website, which I then followed. Going to the website and perusing it caused me to muse about the ability in our country to turn even our most solemn national events into commercial enterprises, while we pretend that they provide an educational service.

As a good parent I’ve taken my children and grandchildren to various historical sites around the country as a part of trying to impress them with the heritage they’ve acquired by being born in this country. I came to fatherhood rather late so that there were many years that I spent also visiting these historical sites and museums in order to increase my own understanding of my culture. There have only been two places/museums that I’ve visited that aroused any emotion within me in all my seven decades of life, yet the emotions aroused weren’t because of the experience per se, but because of my own personal emotions that were specific to the event memorialized. The first place was the United States Memorial Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C.. My visit there, with my wife and young children, was both painful and cleansing emotionally. I found myself continually sobbing, as was my wife, as we watched our young girls wide eyed at the pictures and information of what can happen to Jews like us just because of our ancestry. As I remember it there was no gift shop on the way out for “Shoah Souvenirs” to commemorate the visit.

The one other historical site that touched me deeply was the Vietnam Veteran’s Memorial, also in Washington D.C.. For me and many in my generation, after JFK was murdered everything seemed to go wrong as almost immediately we were entrenched in a murderous war in Southeast Asia, for no good purpose. This terrible war cost us more than 58,000 lives and literally uncounted hundreds of thousands of troops whose lives were forever traumatized. That many of those who fought were drafted into service made their deaths and maiming all the more poignant, simply because they were forced to sacrifice themselves towards an insane goal, based on false premises. The beautifully designed wall, listing all those who died in order of their deaths, was almost too much for me to bear and I had lost no one close to me. I sobbed as I walked the path and touched the names, while looking for those acquaintances of mine who died in Viet Nam. What I found so moving was that as someone who had not been drafted due to my bad heart, but who had been part of the protest movement against the war, the deaths and harm of so many of my contemporaries was so terribly sad to contemplate.  The memorial is outside and at its’ end there is no souvenir shop, nor bookstore to detract from its solemnity, although in true commercial fashion outside there were many people hawking merchandise.

So much of what we deem the ethos of our nation is merely steeped in hypocrisy as we raise memorials and have solemn ceremonies honoring the tragedies that have befallen our nation and its citizens. Politicians and dignitaries preside over our public memorials and the commercial sector also latches on seeing a good opportunity to make money and get good PR in the process. Thus we see the NFL always “honoring the troops”, while Congress keeps cutting their benefits. We see Wal-Mart running commercials guaranteeing one of their ill-paying jobs to any veteran with an honorable discharge. We see slime like Rudy Giuliani using the trauma of 9/11 to promote himself and become fabulously wealthy. We used to honor George Washington with a National holiday and Abraham Lincoln as well. But two days off were “bad business” so their remembrance has morphed into one “President’s Day”, festooned with sales promotions using actors dressed in their costumes selling automobiles made by foreign manufacturers. There once was a national holiday known as Thanksgiving, where most were given the day off to be with their families and engage in a family feast that hopefully allowed us to celebrate the bounty of our country. Now Thanksgiving merely marks the day before “Black Friday” and in our rush towards retail sales, stores are making their employees work through the holiday. The effect in the end is the gradual destruction of all that makes America a cohesive community and leaves us, its citizens, as merely consumers of endless crap to support the wealth of a few.

So now I return to the museum at Dealey Plaza. You can visit its website here: and you can see the wares it sells in its gift shop here: . Think of all the fun and learning you and your family can have with this visit to where a famous murder took place? You can look out the window where presumably Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK. You can tour the exhibits that detail JFK’s life and times and then you can go to the gift shop and purchase appropriate souvenirs to remember your visit. For instance you can buy a Sixth Floor Museum Mini Tray with a JFK quote for only $44.JFK mini tray

The book lauding the Warren Commission titled: History Will Prove Us Right for only $29.95.

Why bother with the historical stuff though when you can buy a Jackie Collection Kunzite Ring for $79.

Jackie Ring

You can get the Jackie Collection Triple Pearl Necklace for only $129 and be assured that it looks just like the one Jackie Kennedy used to wear only I assume hers was a lot more expensive. Jackie Necklace

Visit the site and I’m sure you will find something that you absolutely need to remind you of JFK’s murder. Be the first of your friends to have a souvenir, or maybe even start a JFK Murder Collection of your very own.

The article at WhoWhatWhy by its proprietor Russ Baker titled Fun Last-Minute Gift Ideas From Dallas’s Sixth Floor Museum, is of course mordant satire. Satire though is usually on point with reality, only viewed with a skewed lens. Now I realize that it is too late to get gifts for this Christmas, but I hope you will keep Baker’s following suggestions for future gift ideas in mind for next Christmas, or perhaps the significant birthday of a loved one. This is presented in the spirit of the Museum’s mission statement:

“The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza chronicles the assassination and legacy of President John F. Kennedy; interprets the Dealey Plaza National Historic Landmark District and the John F. Kennedy Memorial Plaza; and presents contemporary culture within the context of presidential history”

Please note that Russ Baker, as do I, believes that the JFK murder was a put up job and I will link my own guest blog which dealt with Baker’s theories at the end of this piece. I will also link to Baker’s own articles on the JFK murder, which come from his book about the Bush Family. Given Baker’s viewpoint needless to say his take on the museums gift shop is a jaundiced one, rightfully so.

“Now, we enjoy a sanitized version of history as much as anyone else, so we tried to imagine what other kinds of gifts the museum could offer, consistent with its mission. Here are some possibilities—sure to please one and all:

• “Oswald did it” T-shirts: available from Super Tiny to XXL, in over 100 different shades. Closeout.

• Copies of the most popular books supporting the Warren Commission findings—whether you prefer Vincent Bugliosi, Gerald Posner, or Professor Bill O’Reilly, we’ve got ‘em all!  With every purchase, we’ll toss in the booklet, “Why the 99 percent of books that say the opposite are just not worth your time—or ours.”

• “Serious Ho Ho Ho”: Framed poster of former CIA chief Allen Dulles as Santa Claus, with cuddly little corporate executives on his lap, telling him what they secretly wished for a month before Christmas, 1963.

•  “Cover-ups” Gift Box Edition: Give your loved ones our handy, semi-transparent “cover-ups”. Perfect for preventing fingerprints from ruining surfaces.

• “Lone nuts”—your favorite almonds, cashews, pecans and other nuts, packaged individually for the discriminating eater with a small appetite.

• “We’re High on Dallas High Society” – an 800-page look at the exciting lives and selfless charitable acts of Dallas’s most powerful families. With each order, we’ll toss in a list of our museum benefactors and supporters, and you can have fun matching names.

• “See No Evil, Hear No Evil” paperweights

•  “Coincidence Theory,” the board game. You’ll have hours of fun with your kids, rearranging facts so they seem downright silly.

•  Bumper stickers: “Who Killed JFK? Well, Who Killed JR?”

• Jar of Pickled Red Herrings. Domestically produced!

• Our 50th Anniversary pamphlet: “How to Throw a Big Event Without Embarrassing Yourself.” Closeout.

• Warm, fuzzy socks festooned with the image of our 41st president, George H.W. Bush, and the caption: “I Can’t Remember Where I was on 11/22/63 Either”

• DELUXE: Special visit to the “sniper’s nest.” Although we’ve had to cordon off access to the actual spot from which Lee Harvey Oswald shot President Kennedy—for National Security reasons—we’re making it available, for a limited time only. For just $500, you’ll get to spend a solid five minutes in Oswald’s shoes. Copies of Das Kapital and other communist literature will be on hand if you get bored. Note: this offer not open to forensic marksmanship examiners of any kind.

• Speed Game, complete with obstacles.  Get Lee Harvey Oswald from the sixth floor to the second floor lunch room where he was observed calmly drinking a soda just a couple of minutes after Kennedy was hit. Show off your skills.

• Magic Bullet Fun. See if you can make a bullet go through two different people, turn, and go back into one of them, then emerge almost in pristine shape. The entire family will enjoy this challenge.

Don’t wait—supplies limited!”

The purpose of propaganda is to take historical happenings and skew the way they are seen in the minds of the public being propagandized. Thus the ruling class of Germany after the First World War blamed their ignominious defeat on traitors and Jews. Hitler marched to this drum beat and the minds of the public were turned away from the actual causes of WWI, which was their corrupt monarchy back by an inherited class of military leadership and towards scape-goats. Hitler and Goebbels merely took the material already available and expanded it. The cabal that murdered JFK and proceeded with what was in effect a coup against the Constitution has also covered up their treason albeit by only scape-goating on person, Lee Harvey Oswald. Now admittedly this differs from the German General’s and the NAZI’s approach because it limits the victims of the scape-goating.

The first move to cover what really happened when JFK was murdered was the exhaustive and exhausting Warren Commission Report led by Allen Dulles and J. Edgar Hoover, both of them men who hated JFK and thought him a bad person. Those who have literally trashed the report have been made into lunatics, while their telling points are ignored and disparaged. Beyond the Warren Commission Report many techniques have been used to ostensibly memorialize JFK, that really only serve to trivialize the impact of his death. So they named public schools, airports and space centers after him. This Dealey Plaza Museum is another example of memorialization by trivialization and incidentally brings many tourist dollars into the city where JFK was murdered. The museum also serves as a propaganda tool because people such as Russ Baker and me, don’t believe that the Sixth Floor of the Texas Book Depository was the only shooting site, while the Museum institutionalizes the propaganda.

There are some who believe that life, our society and our country are only about the money. There are some that believe that commercial/financial interests are the only valid objects for a society and that those who control those interests are the only people of importance. I’m not one of those people and I must admit that it saddens me to see people’s lives and our country so trivialized.

Submitted By: Mike Spindell, Guest Blogger

Below are Russ Baler’s theories on the JFK murder which you can follow in order:

My own take on Russ Baker’s theories  and JFK’s murder are linked below:

41 thoughts on “They Killed Him So Let’s Make a Buck

  1. Good job Mike. I agree that it is a shame that the tragic murder of a President is used to make money. I too was humbled when I visited the Holocaust museum.

  2. I’ve got one of those Allen Dulles as Santa posters.

    Scares the hell out of the crows. Works on gators too. And Asian political leaders.

  3. Good article Mike:

    I felt the same as you mentioned about certain memorials taking on a life of their own that is seemingly above what the memorial is honoring.

    I felt this way when the Washington State Law Enforcement Memorial was being developed. There were various fundraisers, bumper stickers, even a specialty license plate to construct it. I supported the idea behind it 100% but for a while it almost seemed like the emphasis was on brand-labeling the memorial more than the LEOs it honored.

    The logo for the memorial, which was used during the fund raisers and on the license plate, is prominently displayed at the center of the display. Each LEOs name and agency is to either side of it. It is akin to puting a large logo that has a logo and name Viet Nam Memorial right in the middle of the dispaly. It conveys to me a detraction from those who deserved recognition for their sacrifice.

    Occasionally I visit the memorial to remember two deputies I worked with who’s names are on the wall. It is a nice tribute but every time I go there the branded logo detracts from the elegance of the tribute.

  4. Another thing that is so sad about that whole decade. LBJ could have gone down in history as one of our greatest Presidents, next to Washington, FDR, Lincoln and only a couple of others. But he kept the war going at a time when he could have declared victory and pulled out. It ruined his legacy. Just how bad that ruination was hit me full in the face late one afternoon when walking to class at the University. The new library was under construction. They had just started excavation, and what was to be the basement was just a huge crater surrounded by a high wall for security.

    On that construction wall, someone had painted in large block letters: “LEE HARVEY OSWALD, WHERE ARE YOU WHEN WE NEED YOU?”

    Another President who could pull out of an unwinnable war at any time, but hasn’t, has not learned from LBJ’s biggest mistake.

  5. The only problem I’ve had with the JFK assassination that has never been explained with any reasonable satisfaction is Commission Exhibit #399; the “magic bullet.”

    The notion that an object, designed to mushroom on impact, shot from the barrel of a rifle at approximately 3,000 feet per second traveling 88 yards and making seven wounds in two bodies could wind up in pristine condition is simply absurd.

    And no, the bullet didn’t need to change directions in mid air to make those wounds; given how the seats in the limo were aligned.

    But anyone who has ever fired a rifle will tell you that a bullet that didn’t mushroom, as designed, by making those wounds is truly incredible.

  6. Mike Doorbell, reading Rocky’s article almost makes me feel that you’ve been scrounging around inside my own head… I’m your age, 69… and I still remember vividly the exact spot where I was standing that Friday afternoon when I got the news… I had just walked out of a mechanical drawing class, on my university campus to meet a few friends, and the first words out of my friend Dave’s mouth were, ” Did you hear about the assassination?” I had not heard… I’d been in class… and this was at 1:30 in the afternoon, Meerly minutes after the tragic event. I agree with everything you said in your article…. but I believe two things died that day. First, a beloved President… but also secondly, the country that I grew up loving! And now I ask myself…. is the country we’ve turned into even worth saving? If the founders of our once great country could comment on the country we have now…. I’m sure their first expressions would be to VOMIT! we’ve gone from Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln… all the way down to the bottom of the barrel, and Red Cruz & Rand Paul…Rick Santorum, & Mitch McConnell… the slime at the bottom of the barrel… All for a dollar that has become worthless.

  7. “The notion that an object, designed to mushroom on impact, shot from the barrel of a rifle at approximately 3,000 feet per second traveling 88 yards and making seven wounds in two bodies could wind up in pristine condition is simply absurd…. But anyone who has ever fired a rifle will tell you that a bullet that didn’t mushroom, as designed, by making those wounds is truly incredible.”

    I have a lot of sympathy for your position. I too believe the condition of bullet is startling to say the least.

    But military bullets are jacketed and specifically designed not to mushroom – by international law for humanitarian purposes. That does not mean that military bullets never deform. Much depends on the target the bullet strikes. Bullets that strike bone or some other hard material are likely to suffer more damage. In contrast, hunting bullets, with soft lead tips may suffer much damage even when they strike soft tissue.

    The bullet in the pictures, widely broadcast and claimed to be recovered from the crime scene, is clearly a military style jacked projectile.

    In addition, the 6.5mm Italian cartridge with 162 gr round nose bullet is rated for, roughly, 2200 to 2400 feet per second depending on barrel length of the rifle. I mention the velocity for completeness but I don’t think it is relevant in this context. If the bullet had been designed to deform or mushroom it would have likely done so regardless if the velocity were 2200 or 3000 feet per second. Hand guns fire hollow point bullets that deform reliably at velocities around 1,000 feet per second.

    BTW, I was standing on a practice field in gym shorts when a classmate told me the news. Some events you just do not forget.

  8. ….”honoring the troops, while Congress cuts their benefits.” So true. When my daughter retires from the military, she can experience just how little our Congress cares for those veterans in reality. Lip service and monuments .

  9. What I do not like are the Kennedy Foundations which spend time, money, resources and put out the message each minute about the sanctity and beauty of the Kennedy Family. This year on the anniversary of the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 there was a long news scroll from trolls who were honoring JFK for that statute. It was passed by the arm twisting LBJ in 1964 when he was President. The Kennedys were actually lukewarm on it and it would not have passed. Enough time has passed that we can celebrate JFK and RFK for what they were good at– both porked Marilyn the same night at the White House. Share and share alike. The Bay of Pigs comes to mind as well. And Vietnam. One, two, three, what are we fightin for? Don’t ask me I don’t give a dam, next stop is Vietnam! When you are an East Coast, Harvard and Yale boy, and live on Kennybunkport, Hyannis, or Chappaquidick, you get the honored treatment from the Yale historians. Even if your daddy was a bootlegger. Those Yale historians still call Truman the failed haberdasher and Johnson the cowboy hat guy. It will take a hundred years for the Yale historians to take the Halo off the bootleggers’ kids heads and to give Truman and Johnson their fair shake.

  10. At the Un-National Monument along the Canadian Border

    This is the field where the battle did not happen,
    where the unknown soldier did not die.
    This is the field where grass joined hands,
    where no monument stands,
    and the only heroic thing is the sky.

    Birds fly here without any sound,
    unfolding their wings across the open.
    No people killed—or were killed—on this ground
    hallowed by neglect and an air so tame
    that people celebrate it by forgetting its name.

    Mike Spindell, I read this poem from a Norton reader in the early 70s. I have always remembered it.

  11. People in Dallas don’t know it as Dealey Plaza. We asked several people before I asked a cop. I asked him where Dealey Plaza was? I then said, “Where JFK was shot?” He quickly said, “Oh, you’re close” and gave me directions. It didn’t mean much to our kids. The Freedom Trail and definitely Ground Zero meant more.

    The worshipping of the Kennedy’s is something most non zealots, and ALL regular people who dealt w/ them[snobbish, arrogant, NON TIPPERS, rude] don’t get. I definitely don’t understand how ANY woman could worship that Klan, err..clan.

  12. That America is, in a huge way, stupid and backward, rooted in ideological mumbo jumbo to support crass commercialism is much more obvious than in the above examples. We pay three times as much, per capita, for health care than comparable nations. The private sector controls the government to keep the health insurance industry private and we pay for it. America is the only country that advertises pharmaceuticals, dangerous drugs, on television with glitzy ads employing the viewer to take these drugs and be like the actors on the screen. How stupid is that? So stupid that it only happens here. The pharmaceutical industry spends 19 % on advertising and 16% on research and development. The health care insurance industry spends $250,00,000 to control politicians in Washington, every year. How stupid and crass is that?

    Vietnam was more than our national tragedy that cost the lives of 53 thousand Americans, it was a monumental crime comparable to any genocide as it killed over 3,000,000 Vietnamese, over half of whom were innocent civilians just trying to live. We have never atoned for this crime but chastise ourselves for the 53,000 names of the dead on a wall. We talk about the importance for Germany and Japan not to forget their recent histories, however, we don’t even recognize our crimes against humanity. How will we remember something we don’t even recognize?

    Turley, if you’re going to complain about what is wrong with this country, don’t brush the surface with crass commercialism in its pimple sized existence. Focus on the cancer that we all seem to ignore.

  13. Yep…. And when a Japanese company got the concussion at Pearl Harbor the American Vets got angry…… Even the US government is not against making a buck off of it….. Good piece Mike….

  14. Nick, do you know the definition of polemic? While some of his writing does not qualify as a rant, he is far from an objective, questioning, curious, or nuanced reporter. In fact sometimes, he is a sloppy one and almost always a very predictible one. On the other hand, the GBs also have a definite POV, but they can be counted upon for research and more sound argument. They (and we) have an advantage over Turley – they will respond to challenges and further their argument. Makes for a much more satisfying read.

  15. Regarding bullets. Full jacketed bullets typically do not mushroom as hunting rounds do. Military rounds are jacketed, and not designed to fragment or mushroom. There are both tactical and political reasons for that which are beyond the scope of this comment.

    There have been several incidents in which fully jacketed bullets have been used by law enforcement officers with poor results. Police officer Jim Martin of Mena, Arkansas was nearly killed by a guy, and all because Jim was using fully jacketed rounds in his 9mm pistol. The man Jim Martin stopped in 1989 for a DUI pulled out a .357 and shot Jim, hitting him four times, but the body armor worn by the officer stopped them. However, Jim Martin fired a total of 17 rounds into the gunman’s torso. He was using 125 grain hollowpoints, but the full metal jacket went down into the cavity of the hollowpoint, defeating the whole purpose of the hollowpoint bullet. The 17 rounds passed through the guy without bringing him down, and he kept shooting at Jim. Finally, as the gunman pulled a .45 cal. Commando carbine (a semi-automatic version of the Tommy gun) out of his truck, Jim managed to get off two head shots which finally brought the guy down.

    The moral of that story is, fully jacketed bullets can pass completely through a human target without doing nearly as much damage as the same size bullet used for deer hunting.

  16. Wonderful article, Mike. I am old enough to remember vividly November 22 and the ensuing days I also remember my first visit to Dallas post assassination. A friend of mine and I were at a music conference in Ft. Worth. We had driven into Dallas the first evening, although neither of us had the slightest idea where anything in the city was. It was about 10pm and we were driving around trying to find a place to have dinner. All of a sudden we found ourselves driving down the street in front of the grassy knoll, toward the book depository. My friend was too young to remember the assassination, but I was suddenly absolutely speechless with shock. The area was lit with, as I recall, halogen lights with that eerie yellow light. To this day I remember the absolute shock as I recognized the area and what I was seeing. My friend had no idea why I was reacting the way I was, so I tried to explain what I was feeling. Of course, he had no idea what I was talking about. I have never in my life had that feeling, before or since. The last day of the conference before we left, we drove back so I could take pictures and we went through the 6th floor museum. It remains to this day, after the passing of nearly ten years, probably the most traumatic experience of my life. .

  17. bfm and OS,
    Thanks for the lesson on military rounds. I am clueless on these subjects and I learned a lot with both posts.

  18. pdm, I agree that the lack of response from Mr. Turley does diminish the dialogue. I assume it’s mostly a matter of time, which I can understand. Ironic, he doesn’t have enough time and some have too much time on their hands.

  19. Serious researchers know that the Sixth Floor Museum, headed by Gary Mack – whose real name is Larry Dunkel, know that’s merely part of the ongoing effort to keep the public MISinformed about the military/intelligence
    conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy.

    Russ Baker knows this and I assume you’re aware of his articles which make a strong case for involvement in it by GHW Bush – who was photographed in Dealey Plaza that day, and who is one of the people alive that claims he doesn’t remember where he was when it happened. Just liike when he claimed he was “out of the loop” while running the treasonous arms deals during Iran/Contra.

    Here’s a recent article that all should read about the JFK murder:

    then Google “the Two Oswalds” and learn even more truth

  20. Mike Spindell, this poem below is what I did an English lit interpretation of back then.,… The un-national monument was my second choice. I have been wise at times,…by accident, and I have been foolish at times, by accident, … and or willfully for both. … Thank you for sharing. Breathing and understanding, openly and eagerly, is a gift everyone can give themselves. Humility opens the door, strength and determination with stubborn footsteps, takes one into ones own light. … With appreciation, Thank You, for your posts. … and your light.

    Nick, lay off this one. …. Gene, you tooo. etc. … Sincerity is often misinterpreted…… And or confused with 4 shots of Tullamore Dew. 😮
    Blah Blah Blah.

    That is no country for old men. The young
    In one another’s arms, birds in the trees,
    — Those dying generations — at their song,
    The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas,
    Fish, flesh, or fowl, commend all summer long
    Whatever is begotten, born and dies.
    Caught in that sensual music all neglect
    Monuments of unaging intellect.


    MS of Sailing to Byzantium
    An aged man is but a paltry thing,
    A tattered coat upon a stick, unless
    Soul clap its hands and sing, and louder sing
    For every tatter in its mortal dress,
    Nor is there singing school but studying
    Monuments of its own magnificence;
    And therefore I have sailed the seas and come
    To the holy city of Byzantium.

  21. dbf,

    Why would I take issue with Yeats? He was a fine poet.

    But I will say that my Allen Dulles as Santa poster scared the hell out of him too.

  22. Gene H.
    I learned not to use “a shiny forward” when writing on this blog,… and I agree. LOL. Some people do shine, I enjoy this blog.
    I have a great self enhanced umbrella for the storms that pop up.
    I made it at Dave Mart.

    OH, I thought it was Allen Dulles as Satan, my dyslexia must have acted up.😮

  23. Nick, I don’t believe in Camelot, nor sainthood. Teddy pissed on himself in the river, Mary Jo K died. The world could have gone on without him in power quite easily. The whole family decided the world needed him. I would have respected him more if he had left public life. Cemeteries are full of “indispencible men” …. Then he corrupted Chris Dodd, or Dodd allowed his corruptness to surface. There ain’t no Saints only delusions.
    However, Liz Warren has my attention, I give her two more years before the powers that be collar her. It only took 6 months for Al Franken to be collared.

  24. nick spinelli
    1, December 28, 2013 at 10:54 pm
    Teddy had 4 shots of Irish whiskey w/ his 10 stack of pancakes and sausage every morning

    you know this from your undercover work as a short order cook?

  25. davdbluefish, Amen to no saints. Actually, Dodd didn’t need much corrupting. His old man, Tom Dodd, was US Senator of my Nutmeg State when I was a kid. He was censured for skimming campaign funds or something of that ilk. He was a bullshitting, alcoholic, Irish politician. There were, and still are, a shitload of them in New England. I saw an interesting sign in a small business window a few weeks ago in Madison, Wi. It read, “Nobody trusts politicians, so why the hell do we let them run everything?”

  26. pete, I have been a short order cook but never served Teddy “Fredo” Kennedy. But chrissake, can’t you just visualize Teddy eating that breakfast after drinking all night? I have had family and friends deal w/ the Kennedy clan in Boston and the Cape and that’s where I get my assessment of their “qualities.” It’s an open secret in New England. I’m sure there are a few decent ones.

  27. I wasn’t there so I have no emotional attachment to the moment or the man.

    But I never was able to see the man as a solitary stand-alone figure. Always I saw him in the shadow of his father: a man who loved power, gained power, and watched it turn to dust.

    A story of epic poetic justice.

  28. Mike S:

    BTW Mike good work here. I enjoyed some of your reference sites today during our rainy morning here in Richmond.

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