Exporting Homophobia: Pastor Scott Lively and the Anti-Gay Crusaders of the US

Submitted by Elaine Magliaro, Weekend Contributor

Scott Lively, the head of Abiding Truth Ministries, is a resident of Springfield, Massachusetts. Lively is a controversial evangelical pastor known for having a homophobic agenda. He “specializes in stirring up anti-gay feeling around the globe.” When he was a young man, Lively said he had a “live and let live” attitude toward gays. Once a liberal, he admits that he was an alcoholic and a drug addict until he “got saved” in 1986. He says that since then his “focus has been to restore a biblical focus with regards to marriage and sexuality.”

Jack Rodolico (Latitude News) says that after coming to Christ, Lively began to view social issues “from God’s perspective”—and his “faith began to fuel the fire of his activism.” According to a report in the National Journal, “Lively became a lawyer, author, and advocate in pursuit of the cause.” In 1992, Lively got involved in Oregon’s Ballot Measure 9. That measure “would have amended the Oregon Constitution to summarily recognize ‘homosexuality, pedophilia, sadism and masochism as abnormal, wrong, unnatural and perverse.’” Rodico reported that Oregon voters denied Lively and his anti-gay colleagues a victory—but only after “an ugly political battle ensued.” Rodico said that the defeat left a lasting impression on Lively.


About a decade ago, Lively gave up on the United States “when one of his cases (challenging an antidiscrimination law) failed.” Lively said, “I began shifting my emphasis, which is going to the other countries in the world that are still culturally conservative to warn them about how the Left has advanced its agenda in the U.S., Canada, and Europe—and to help put barriers in place. And the goal is to build a consensus of moral countries to actually roll back the leftist agenda in my country.”

According to Mariah Blake (Mother Jones), Lively first visited the country of Uganda in 2002. Blake said that Lively “has cultivated ties to influential politicians and religious leaders at the forefront of the nation’s anti-gay crusade.”

Just before the first draft of Uganda’s anti-gay bill began circulating in April 2009, Lively traveled to Kampala and gave lengthy presentations to members of Uganda’s parliament and cabinet, which laid out the argument that the nation’s president and lawmakers would later use to justify Uganda’s draconian anti-gay crackdown—namely that Western agitators were trying to unravel Uganda’s social fabric by spreading “the disease” of homosexuality to children. “They’re looking for other people to be able to prey upon,” Lively said, according to video footage. “When they see a child that’s from a broken home it’s like they have a flashing neon sign over their head.”

Alex Seitz-Wald (National Journal) said that Lively and a small band of “incredibly influential” American activists “spend their time crisscrossing the globe to meet with foreign lawmakers, deliver speeches, make allies, cut checks, and otherwise foment a backlash against the so-called international gay-rights agenda…” Seitz-Wald says that—in a large part of the world—they’re winning. Seitz-Wald wrote that in the month of December 2013 alone India’s Supreme Court “re-criminalized homosexuality, Nigeria outlawed LGBT advocacy (gay sex was already punishable by up to 14 years in prison), and Uganda passed a watered-down version of its infamous ‘kill the gays’ bill, which allows for life prison terms—if not the death penalty—for ‘aggravated homosexuality.’”

Mariah Blake wrote that when Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni signed the new harsh anti-gay bill into law in late February, he said that the measure had been “provoked by arrogant and careless western groups that are fond of coming into our schools and recruiting young children into homosexuality.” She said that what Museveni “failed to mention” was that the legislation itself was “largely due to Western interlopers, chief among them a radical American pastor named Scott Lively.”

Blake—like Seitz-Wald—reports that Scott Lively isn’t the only US evangelical “who has fanned the flames of anti-gay sentiment in Uganda.” She says that as the anti-gay groups continue to lose ground at home, religious conservatives are increasingly turning “their attention to Africa. And Uganda, with its large Christian population, has been particularly fertile ground for their crusade.”

In The Uganda Anti-Gay Bill’s U.S. Roots, Michelle Goldberg writes about Uganda being an African country “where American-style evangelical Christianity is exploding.” Jeff Sharlet, author of The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power, has reported that the sponsor of the country’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill is David Bahati—the secretary of the Uganda branch of The Family…and that the bill’s champion C. Martin Ssempa “was a protégé of Rick Warren.” Goldberg added that Stephen Langa, a major anti-gay activist, is the head of Uganda’s Family Life Network, which happens to be “an affiliate of the Phoenix-based group Disciple Nations Alliance.” Note: The Family, a secretive American evangelical organization, has a number of powerful and influential members—including “Sens. James Inhofe, Jim DeMint, and Tom Coburn.”

Goldberg says that American Christians never urged their counterparts in Uganda “to try to institute the death penalty for homosexuality.” Still, she notes that the “ideology underlying the bill comes from American conservatives.” She adds, “It is Americans who have elaborated a vision of homosexuality as a satanic global conspiracy bent on destroying society’s foundations, akin to the Jewish octopus in classic anti-Semitic narratives.” Goldberg also reports that according to Warren Throckmorton—“an evangelical psychology professor once associated with the ex-gay movement”—anti-gay activists in Uganda “cite materials by Scott Lively and Paul Cameron, two of the fiercest American opponents of the so-called homosexual agenda.”

Scott Lively on how homosexuals supposedly prey on children


Meet the American Pastor Behind Uganda’s Anti-Gay Crackdown: Scott Lively has stirred up hate from Moscow to Kampala. Watch him in action. (Mother Jones)

Barney Frank: ‘Repudiated’ U.S. ‘hatemongers’ are promoting anti-gay laws in Uganda (Raw Story)

The painful case of Pastor Scott Lively, homophobe to the world (Washington Post)

Evangelicals Are Winning the Gay Marriage Fight–in Africa and Russia: Evangelical advocates, having failed here, are finding friendlier audiences all over the world. (National Journal)

The Crusader (Boston Magazine)

Uganda’s anti-gay bill refocuses attention on US evangelical influence: Uganda’s President Museveni signed into law Monday a bill that criminalizes homosexuality with life sentences and punishes efforts to raise or discuss gay issues. (Christian Science Monitor)

U.S. exporting homophobia to Uganda: And debate in Uganda divides evangelicals back in U.S. (Latitude News)

Ugandan tabloid prints list of ‘top 200 homosexuals’: Red Pepper publishes names under headline of ‘Exposed’ day after president signs anti-gay bill (The Guardian)

Scott Lively & Rick Warren: The PR Campaign to Whitewash the Right’s Anti-Gay Uganda History (Political Research Associates)

The Uganda Anti-Gay Bill’s U.S. Roots (The Daily Beast)

U.S. evangelicals on the defense over Uganda’s new Anti-Homosexuality Act (Religion News Service)

~ Submitted by Elaine Magliaro

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183 thoughts on “Exporting Homophobia: Pastor Scott Lively and the Anti-Gay Crusaders of the US

  1. Such wonderful examples of Christ’s teachings!!?? I am astonished that any reading of Gospel suggests that Christians should judge anyone else. Mary Magdalene would not even be allowed to live under the teachings of these so-called Christians! Or are prostitutes better than gay and lesbian people?

  2. Wow…. The Jesus that I was taught about was love and tolerance….

    Raff….. Just finished reading Killing Jesus by Bill O’Riley….. Good read…. I’m sure he’d be excommunicated by Pius XII…..if he was still in office…..

  3. These folks are not Christians. They don’t follow the teachings of Jesus. They seem to believe that they are better and more powerful than Jesus in interpreting what God wants.

  4. rafflaw – you clearly are not keeping up. Mary Magdalene was never a prostitute. It was a bad pronouncement by a Pope who mixed up two names in the New Testament.

    Do remember that Jesus was a good Jewish boy and the Old Testament was/is anti-homosexual. There was a big fight over letting Gentiles join the cause (so to speak).

  5. Dredd… Some apparently educated folks seem to miss the mark…. The teaching of Jesus in my opinion are basically symbolic….. But… You know it’s better to take an eye…..

  6. AY I don’t wish to read O’Riley since he makes little sense most of the time, but if he denounces anti-gay bigotry, good. If Pius XII were still in office, O’Riley would be lucky to get off with just excommunication. He instead would also have been sent to Birkenau, in keeping with traditional Catholic practices.

    I saw the clip of Lively and most of what he said is quite true and reasonable. Most children DO experiment sexually, though I don’t know the numbers. He misses one important thing that he alludes to, the hateful things that gays have to contend with. He cites that as the reason for imprinting young people to be gay if they have one homosexual experience. Of course, the corollary is that if the hatred and oppression is removed from gays, then they will not have the need or motive for needing to be part of a large group to protect themselves. So the FACT is that BOTH sides need each other in convincing young people that they are gay if they have one such experience.

    The main question should be, what business is it of others what some folks are doing to each other in private. I always thought that it is NOT the governments business to put itself into our bedrooms. Nor is it society’s business. So schools should just teach let live and let live. THAT will be the best solution.

  7. randyjet,

    Lively claims that homosexuals are predators of young children who may have been victims of pedophiles.It’s pedophiles who prey on young children. Many pedophiles are heterosexuals.

  8. How wonderful that these fine Christians are spreading the word to the dark continent of Africa, risking their lives to expose heathen natives and cannibals to the glorious teachings of Jesus!

    Now, if all of you can send me a few thousand dollars, I’ll do my best to build a Fred Phelps Memorial Westboro Baptist Church in the jungle of Uganda to spread the good news about how the true Straight Baptist God hates fags.

    We can only pray that the newly enacted Biblical Law in Uganda will cure the gays in that nation and prevent the gayness from spreading.

  9. randyjet – if Pius XII excommunicated O’Rielly, what do you think he would do to Biden and Pelosi? Just asking?

  10. Elaine M. – many pedophiles are homosexual. Just ask the victims of sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England. The majority are male on male. Does the name John Wayne Gacy ring a bell?

  11. AY – surely by this time in life you have come to the realization that your world-view is not the world-view of everyone.

  12. Paul,

    You are equating pedophilia with homosexuality. Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children. Some of the victims of clergy sex abuse were girls. One could argue that since males are altar boys, priests usually have much easier access to them than to girls.

  13. Are Gay Priests the Problem?
    April 15, 2010

    Medical professionals agree that the majority of known pedophiles are heterosexual. Although statistics vary slightly, according to Thomas Plante of the department of psychology at Santa Clara University in California, most professionals agree that between 4 percent and 7 percent of people are pedophiles and that statistics in the priesthood roughly correspond to those findings.

    It is also statistically verifiable that 80 percent of victims of sexual abuse are abused by a family member. The father of a family is 36 times more likely to abuse a child than a priest is, according to the National Center for Posttraumatic Stress Disorder.

    Of about 3,000 reported cases of sexual misconduct among priests committed in the past 50 years, only 300, or 10 percent, of those cases involved true pedophiles. Pedophilia is psychologically classified as sexual attraction to prepubescent children, younger than 13. Ninety percent of the reported abuse cases involved Roman Catholic priests classified as ephebophiles, those attracted to teens between 13 and 19. Of those reported cases, 60 percent were homosexual abuse and 30 percent heterosexual abuse, according to the 2004 John Jay Report commissioned by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

    Irresponsible to Link Homosexuality, Pedophilia

    The statistics are helpful in distilling the underlying questions and concerns that arise. Certainly, no abuse of any kind is acceptable for a member of the clergy. As is church policy, there is zero tolerance for anyone accused and convicted of the abuse of a minor.

    Although it was not always the case in the past, church guidelines require that internal and legal action in reported abuse be swift and just, with utmost concern for the victim involved. But why are sexual abusers present at all in ordained ministry, and what are the most effective means to prevent further abuse? This is where the issue of gay priests and the comments of Cardinal Bertone become germane.

    To link homosexuality and pedophilia (or ephebophilia) is obviously erroneous, uninformed and irresponsible. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation. Pedophilia and ephebophilia are sexual disorders that afflict both heterosexuals and homosexuals, and mostly heterosexuals.

  14. Elaine – to take your argument to its full extension, one has to argue that pedophiles have no preferred sexual target but just pick the target of opportunity, but we both know that is not true. BTW, girls have been altar girls for some time. And I said many abusers were homosexual, not all.

  15. Paul

    That the young boys were molested by priests does not automatically make those priests homosexual. Some, in fact, molested young girls also. It does qualify them to be pedophiles, however. It’s no different than the married heterosexual Boy Scout leaders caught molesting young boys. Women who molest young boys or girls are pedophiles as well.

    I was apparently taught from the same catechism book as others who were told Mary Magdeline was a prostitute. The rehabilitation of her reputation must have come sometime after I quit caring about fairy tales, tooth fairies, Santa Claus and the utter nonsense of religion and Biblical stories.

  16. Elaine – 20 years ago homosexuality was a sexual disorder, just ask Carlton. Ten years from now pedophilia and ephebophilia may be considered sexual orientations. Studies have shown that people with these disorders cannot be ‘cured.’

  17. Well Paul, Nick, Randy Jet, et al….

    If I really cared what you thought, I really wouldn’t be posting here, now would I….. There’s a papal edict that says that the pope is infallible…. What does that mean to me….. Not much…. To you…. I don’t really care…. You suffer the fool well Paul…

  18. Paul,

    It may be true that there are altar girls today. I haven’t as yet seen any altar girls in the Catholic churches where I have gone. I’d add that the clergy sex abuse scandal goes back many decades–to a time when there were no girls who served in that capacity.

    The Boston Globe Spotlight Investigation: Abuse in the Catholic Church

  19. If this were a different blog we would have several comments equating homosexuality with beastiality by now. The “Can I marry my dog” meme hasn’t come up yet, that’s reassuring. It’s chilling that these Christian” ministers have gone into other countries to spread bigotry under the guise of Christianity and it’s exceedingly evident preview that this is what they have in mind for our country if they had the chance.

  20. Rcampbell – this may come as a shock but you can be married and homosexual. I know several who were. But to look at it in the best light for you, they would be bi or bi-curious. Does that make you feel better?

    National Lampoon subtitled the Baltimore Catechism: Manual for Future Ex-Catholics. For the nuns it was all black or white, for the parish priests there was a little gray, but for the Jesuits it was all gray.:)

  21. PS,
    please provide us some documentation on your false claim that many pedophiles are homosexual and please define “many”.

  22. Paul,

    Two consenting adults of the same sex having sexual relations is far different from pedophiles or ephebophiles victimizing and having sex with young children or teens between the ages of 13-18.

  23. Paul, why even mention that some homosexuals are pedophiles, one could just as easily say some heterosexuals are pedophiles, but to inject that into the conversation is to give credence to the claptrap that homophobic preachers spout. Do you think there are a higher number of homosexuals that are pedophiles? Is that what you were trying to say? Don’t beat around the bush.

  24. You can keep this political argument going forever if you choose to. Regardless of what anyone says or does it will have little effect. People have the right to believe what they which to believe – that, in essence, is religion. However, they have to keep it civil. “I never consider a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.”

  25. AY – the Pope is infallible ONLY when he speaks ex cathedra. A fourth grader in Catholic school knows this. If I really suffered fools, I would suffer you, AY, but I don’t. You often speak of what you do not know.

  26. Yes, I’d like to see some percentages comparing hetero to homo pedophiles. I think that in 50 years, maybe less our grandchildren and greatgrandchildren will be wondering how so many intelligent Americans could’ve been so bigoted toward other Americans…or the Theocracy could be in place by then, who knows.

  27. Charlton – homosexuality and sodomy were crimes and your profession listed them as sexual deviancies. Things change, times change, opinions change, laws change. Marijuana is legal in Colorado. Arizona is a medical marijuana state. Things change.

  28. Over my 40+ year career and thousands of cases, among them more crimes against children than I care to count, more of them have been heterosexuals than homosexuals. Some have, as a psychologist friend of mine (and former rodeo cowboy) observed using cowboy lingo, “A no-cull policy.”

    Equating a prurient interest in minors a common homosexual trait is disingenuous and an outright lie. There is no correlation. Sex offenders come in all ages, genders and walks of life. From Time magazine:

    According to a paper published in the American Psychological Association journal, Psychology of Men and Masculinity, 43% of high school and college-aged men say they’ve had “unwanted sexual contact,” and 95% of those say a female acquaintance was the aggressor.

    Source: http://time.com/37337/nearly-half-of-young-men-say-theyve-had-unwanted-sex/

    Peer reviewed paper the Time article references: http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/men-a0035915.pdf

  29. I am not bigoted towards any homosexual as a homosexual or heterosexual as a heterosexual. Pedophilia is against the law and I am generally bigoted against law-breakers.

  30. Paul,

    You write those words not knowing what you are saying or meaning to say and then contradict them in the next baited breath….. Is that for real a strawman argument…. Is that the best you’ve got….

    You the fool do indeed suffer in ignorance….

  31. If it makes you feel better Carlton I was “hit on” by both male and female professors in both undergraduate and graduate school.

  32. In a nutshell Paul…. You were hit on in college by both male and female professors….. That tells me you were either disingenuous with the sexes and you are hiding your bisexuality…. Or you are just using people to get what you want for the moment…..

  33. I’m not going to wade into this whole gay debate. But, Paul has picked up on dissembling from Elaine. I worked Catholic priest cases, I was a source on the Boston Globe expose’. The OVERWHELMING number victims of abuse were boys. EVERYONE knows that. “We are entitled to our own opinions, not our own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynihan

  34. I don’t know nick …. What should you learn…. Never as the question you don’t want the answer to….

  35. Paul… Nick…. Yeah right I’ve yet to see Elaine make a target out of anyone…. You on the other hand…. Wade neck deep in the cesspool….

  36. And for all you lapsed Catholics, they’re now called “Servers.” When I taught @ a Catholic Middle School I would have to excuse “servers” for funerals. A microscopic survey of my 7th and 8th graders were 4 boys, 2 girls.

  37. AY – what it means is that I am incredibly good looking and attractive to both sexes. In a nutshell, as you would say.

  38. Virtually any sexual disorder is by definition going to be heterosexual since well over 90% of the population is heterosexual. Serenity now!

  39. So you gaydar is open and running….. You know I know some folks that are male models…. The are sought out by both sexes and swing both ways….. I suppose you’re either fighting your bisexuality or you have in and now feel guilt….. What was that A worth…,

  40. I suppose you’re either fighting your bisexuality or you have given in and now feel guilt….. What was that A worth…..

  41. “predominantly” hetero. Paul, we need to see your photo! Some of the photos are…well let’s say, hard to see on a daily basis. One must be from the early 70’s.

  42. You guys realize that the definition of “homophobia” that some of you are describing here started in a pornographic magazine called Screw, right? 2 homosexual activists, Jack Nichols and Lige Clarke first used the term in the pornography magazine Screw, edited by Al Goldstein. In their article, the authors used the term “homophobia” to describe a person’s fears that others might think they were homosexual. The authors postulated that “homophobic” fears limited the experiences of heterosexual males from involvement in poetry, art, movement, and same-sex touching. Postulated in a pornographic magazine…means the term “homophobia” as commonly used today has no legit scientific or psychological foundation whatsoever.

  43. Paul Schulte @on 1, March 30, 2014 at 1:50 pm
    ” many pedophiles are homosexual.

    Is that anything like:
    … Many terrorists are Muslims?
    … Many murderers are painters?
    … Many burglars are taxi cab drivers?
    … Many bigots are Christians?

    According to your analogy…
    … It’s the Catholics that are pedophiles.

  44. AY – do you know how hard it is to ‘nicely’ turn down a full professor? Especially in grad school this can be dangerous. I never kissed an ass literally or figuratively in my life. You really think I would kiss up to someone to get a good grade?

  45. I am not bigoted towards any homosexual as a homosexual or heterosexual as a heterosexual. Pedophilia is against the law and I am generally bigoted against law-breakers.

    … Um, Paul, yes you are.
    IF you HAVE TO equate illegal behavior to cement your POV AGAINST a certain segment of society… you ARE a bigot.

    It’s the preferred method.
    Ya know…
    … Muslim is the new Jew to hate
    … Mexican is the new Gypsy to hate
    … And gays, well throw them into the fire too!

  46. Bigots make blanket statements to cover for their broad a$$ of hate…
    ” many pedophiles are homosexual.”

  47. Not only do they keep lying about the law itself and what it punishes (aggravated homosexuality is intentionally spreading HIV and sodomizing minors), Ugandans are insulted by these claims that Americans influenced them to pass the law. White liberals here in America imply and assume that whites have a parental-like influence over blacks, because the liberals here in the states are the ones guilty of that racist mind-set. They were the party of pro-Slavery and pro Jim Crow law. They are the party that legalized abortion and then placed almost 90% of the abortion facilities in black communities here in the US. They were the ones who undermined the importance of black fathers in black families by attacking the black family with their welfare state first.

  48. Annie,

    At this point I don’t think the civility rule would matter…. They have an agenda….

  49. raff, Thanks for the heads up. It was indeed and I will make every effort to not have it happen again. I apologize to Charlton if any offense was taken.

  50. AY, sadly I think that it’s time, once again for Professor Turley to make an appeal to commenters to remain civil. It seems like it’s happening with more frequency the last several weeks. This goading and baiting by certain commenters, takes away from the discussion and cheapens the blog.

  51. Annie,

    I might have to take the guest bloggers approach and not respond to the mindless strawman…. Now that’s an oxymoron …..

  52. Annie,
    LOL on the pic. I like it, btw. Back in the 1970s, my hair actually had color. I didn’t decide to grow a beard until sometime in the 1980s. Later I threatened to shave it off, but my wife forbade me. When I reminded her that she objected to it when I grew it, she said that she had discovered a Great Truth. Kissing a man without a beard is like eating a cookie without the chocolate chips.

    My pic was taken before my son died in 2007. That aged me a lot. Even more so after my wife died in 2011.

  53. Thanks Chuck. And you look mahvelous dahlink! Life and sorrow will age one’s appearance, but it’s a badge of courage, IMO. I wear my wrinkles in pride.

  54. Oh and my hair color is a bit lighter than that now, the whiter my hair gets, the lighter shade of hair dye I get to use, my hope is to one day be a blond. 😀

  55. Max-1 – you really are not capable of coherent thought are you. Your argument, and I use argument in its loosest form, does not make sense.

  56. annie – I am blonde to begin with and as my hair turned gray it blended with the blonde so I looked blonde until just a year ago or so when it all went gray/white. Drove my sister crazy that it was not looking gray.:)

  57. Max, I agree with Annie…. Pay the person behind the curtain no attention….. If I recall he was just a snake oil salesman on a bad cocaine trip….

  58. Paul,

    How do you ever stay so into yourself that others can have the pleasure of your company…. I bet you get better looking each day…. That’s why it’s so hard to be humble…..right?

    With respect to me…. You’ll never know…. At one time… I was an Elf……

  59. AY – some things are genetic. I have no control over them. Personally, I am unconcerned with how I look.

  60. Max-1:

    “many pedophiles are homosexuals”

    That is a pretty bold statement dont you think? What are you selling? I aint buying it.

  61. Elaine… You sure stirred the fleas up today….. You know fleas are amazingly resistant….. And they can jump many times there size…… Eventually you can get rid of them…. But it takes effort and the right cleanser…..

  62. Paul, yes Jesus was a nice Jewish boy, and it might surprise you to learn that, other than the Orthodox Jews, the other denominations do accept gays and many perform gay marriages. They are far more tolerant than many Christian denominations.

  63. chestercat1 – I am really surprised at anything. I know that some Jewish denominations are so reformed they are non-denominational.:)

  64. Paul,

    “AY – cute, but maybe you just can’t spell.”

    Says the man who told me that I had spelled “beyond the pale” incorrectly…when I hadn’t.

  65. Elaine,

    I’m of the club…. Once it’s out there…. I can’t do too much about it…. So unless the syntax affects my meaning…. Why, take more time…. Kinda like footnotes that go on for about 4 pages…. Seems like a waste….

    I just find it aPauling that this has been allowed to go on….

  66. AY – I bought your story about teaching at face value, now I am beginning to doubt it. The more I read your writing, the more I am of the opinion that you were blowing smoke.

  67. Bishop Christopher Senyonjo, Ugandan Cleric, Ministers To Gays Despite Nation’s Law
    Posted: 03/30/2014

    KAMPALA, Uganda (AP) — Young men sing hymns and recite the Bible before the Rev. Christopher Senyonjo gives a sermon on human sexuality. When the service is over some go to his desk, one by one, for counselling no other Ugandan religious leader is known to offer gays.

    Dressed in a purple shirt and white collar that highlight his Anglican faith, Bishop Senyonjo doesn’t organize his Sunday evening prayers for homosexuals only. But his sermons attract many gays who are familiar with his sympathetic views in a country where other Christian preachers have led Uganda’s anti-gay crusade.

    For ministering to homosexuals, Senyonjo has become estranged from Uganda’s Anglican church. He was barred from presiding over church events in 2006 when he wouldn’t stop urging his leaders to accept gays. The parish that he once led doesn’t even acknowledge his presence when he attends Sunday services there, underscoring how his career has suffered because of his tolerance for gays in a country where homosexuals —and those who accept them — face discrimination.

    “They said I should condemn the homosexuals,” he said, referring to Anglican leaders in Uganda. “I can’t do that, because I was called to serve all people, including the marginalized. But they say I am inhibited until I recant. I am still a member of the Anglican church.”

  68. Hmmm… I don’t think that is how your phrased it originally or I would not have been asking what you taught. Working for the education industry is broad enough to cover the guys who deliver the books. I have both taught and worked for the world’s largest educational publisher as a fact-checker. I and probably 50 others are co-authors of one of the current high school literature texts. I was responsible for all of the ELL and Gifted questions for the textbooks as well as specific units. Just some of what I did for them.

  69. Everything you need to know about Africa’s anti-gay crackdown Uganda and Nigeria have launched campaigns to ban homosexuality and throw gays in jail. Why now?
    By The Week Staff

    What is the goal of the new laws?
    To criminalize homosexuality and “cleanse” these two countries’ societies of gay people. In January, Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan signed a new anti-gay law that mandates 14-year prison terms for anyone in a same-sex union and 10 years for anyone who “promotes” homosexuality, including HIV/AIDS workers. In February, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni signed an even more draconian anti-gay law that provides for 14 years in jail for first-time offenders; those who commit “aggravated homosexuality” — repeated gay sex or gay sex involving a minor or someone with HIV — can get life in prison. The Ugandan law also pressures people to inform on their gay neighbors, because it is now a crime for anyone who is aware of homosexual activity to fail to report it. In signing the law, Museveni said he was defending the country from “arrogant and careless Western groups that are fond of coming into our schools and recruiting young children into homosexuality.”

    What prompted the new laws?
    Under legal systems set up by European colonizers in the 19th and 20th centuries, 38 of Africa’s 55 nations have had anti-sodomy laws on the books. But those laws were rarely enforced until recently, and in many African cultures, casual homosexuality has been fairly commonplace. In the last two decades, the continent has undergone a resurgence of evangelical Christianity, propelled largely by American missionaries. Uganda has been a particular focus for Scott Lively, an American evangelical pastor who preaches that gay Nazis were behind the Holocaust and that gay men try to recruit children. In a 2009 presentation to Ugandan lawmakers in Kampala, Lively warned that Westerners wanted to undermine the Ugandan family and recruit children by spreading “the disease” of homosexuality. “They’re looking for other people to be able to prey upon,” Lively said. Ugandan rights advocates say the anti-gay movement owes everything to Lively’s lobbying. “The bill is essentially his creation,” said Frank Mugisha of Sexual Minorities Uganda.

  70. Elaine – I am not sure if gay Nazis are behind the Holocaust vis a vis the Final Solution, but they were behind the rise of the Nazi Party and early anti-Judaism in Germany. Hitler won over the German General Staff by getting rid of them during “The Night of the Long Knives.”

  71. i wonder how many people realize that its mary madgalene sitting across from jesus at the last supper dressed in opposite colors from him looking forlorn while peter is throwing daggers of hate at her with his eyes…

    my guess is none because they’re all to brainwashed to realize and understand the truth..

    the truith is WE ARE ALL MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. God being the knowledge of right and wrong… which isnt something taught from a book written and rewritten many many times over by HUMANS fanatic clerics and nefarious po lie trickers to suit their own needs.. if you were being told the truth they wouldnt have needed to remove so many Apocrypha books starting with the book of enoch and the coming of melchizedek but then again it would take humanity time to understand even just 2 books not to mention the many others.. it would also take humanity much time to put the truth back together and unwrite the so called books of the old and new testaments…

  72. The leftwing wingnuts are tolerant until someone has a different viewpoint than their own. Then their tolerance goes out the window.

    The word “homophobe” is a useless, meaningless cliche, used to stereotype people with differing views. A phobia implies some sort of fear, but of the general consensus regarding homosexuality, the emotion is not of fear, but of disgust. That “homophobe” word needs to be retired, as it as old and powerless as “teabaggers”. The left really needs to come up with some new material.

  73. Robinh45 bleated “which isnt something taught from a book written and rewritten many many times over by HUMANS fanatic clerics and nefarious po lie trickers to suit their own needs.. ”

    If that “book” you are referring to is the Bible, you’ll have to try again about the claim that it has been rewritten. The Bible was translated and transcribed into several different languages all over the world. When the scribes were copying the texts, they actually counted each letter and if it was off by one, it was thrown out. The copies were under close scrutiny and it would have been impossible for someone to go in and change things.

    When the Dead Sea Scrolls was found, Bible scoffers were sure they could find evidence of changing the scripture but when the scrolls were examined, it copied what we know as the Bible today TO THE LETTER. It was not changed over time as so many ignorant people claim.

  74. Definitions:

    Homophobia, Heterosexism, and Sexual Prejudice

    People with homosexual or bisexual orientations have long been stigmatized. With the rise of the gay political movement in the late 1960s, however, homosexuality’s condemnation as immoral, criminal, and sick came under increasing scrutiny. When the American Psychiatric Association dropped homosexuality as a psychiatric diagnosis in 1973, the question of why some heterosexuals harbor strongly negative attitudes toward homosexuals began to receive serious scientific consideration.


    Society’s rethinking of sexual orientation was crystallized in the term homophobia, which heterosexual psychologist George Weinberg coined in the late 1960s. Weinberg used homophobia to label heterosexuals’ dread of being in close quarters with homosexuals as well as homosexuals’ self loathing. The word first appeared in print in 1969 and was subsequently discussed at length in Weinberg’s 1972 book, Society and the Healthy Homosexual.

    The American Heritage Dictionary (1992 edition) defines homophobia as “aversion to gay or homosexual people or their lifestyle or culture” and “behavior or an act based on this aversion.” Other definitions identify homophobia as an irrational fear of homosexuality.


  75. robin45 – if you believe that Mary Magdalene is in the fresco by Michelangelo, then I have a bridge in New Jersey I would like to sell you.

  76. Christian Evangelical Family Network Behind Anti-Gay Bill in Uganda
    By Gianluca Mezzofiore
    February 8, 2012
    International Business Times

    American Christian evangelical organisations have actively lobbied for the re-introduction of the anti-homosexuality bill in Uganda, which was presented in the parliament Tuesday, according to local activists.

    The Uganda-based Family Life Network (FLN), founded by Stephen Langa, is the main organisation behind the efforts to revive the bill, according to Kikonyogo Kivumbi, executive director of civil rights organisation Uhspa-Uganda.

    “Many people in Uganda subscribe to the FLN ideology,” he said. “We tried to engage with them, but they turned down the dialogue. They are part of a foreign, illiterate agenda that has all the intentions to make the bill pass through.”

    According to experts, there are close links between many American anti-gay preachers and their Ugandan counterparts. David Bahati, the Anti-Homosexuality Bill’s sponsor, is the secretary of the Ugandan branch of The Family, a secretive American evangelical organisation, according to Kivumbi. Langa himself is an affiliate of the Phoenix-based group Disciple Nations Alliance.

    He formed in 2009 the Anti-Gat Task Force intended “to fight against the spread of homosexuality and lesbianism in the country”. The pressure groups followed a two-day conference of religious leaders, teachers and social workers in the capital Kampala.

    Plans made during the conference, which were leaked to the media soon afterwards, included collecting “signatures from Ugandans door-to-door to request parliament to tighten the law on homosexuality” and lobbying the government to “note gay funders, and scrutinize the funding or stop the funding for gay movement in Uganda”.

    The organisation also launched the “Pass the Bill Now Campaign”, which featured lobbying and acts towards MPs to push forward the law. “Call your MP and ask them to debate and pass the bill. Write to them and send them emails demanding that the anti-homosexuality bill must be passed,” reads a passage from the Family Life Network conclusive document.

    Other anti-gay campaigners that contributed to the revival of the bill, according to Kivumbi, are preeminent Uganda pastors Martin Seempa, Solomon Male and Bob Kyazze, who were recently charged to falsely defame a rival pastor by accusing him of sodomy.

    Ssempa champions the anti-homosexuality bill by showing gay pornography in his church and at conferences. He was a protégé of Rick Warren and, during the Bush administration, a recipient of at least $90,000 of American aid earmarked for abstinence promotion, according to the Daily Beast’s Michelle Goldberg

  77. Scott Lively

    Date of Birth: 1957
    Location: Springfield, Mass.
    Most Recent Group: Abiding Truth Ministries
    Ideology: Anti-LGBT

    A veteran of the anti-gay movement, Lively has been actively propagandizing against LGBT people since the early 1990s, but he’s perhaps best-known for co-writing the thoroughly discredited, Holocaust revisionist book The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party (1995), which claims that the Nazi party was full of gay men who, because of their “savagery,” were able to carry out the Holocaust. In 2007, he co-founded the virulently anti-gay Watchmen on the Walls, an organization currently active more in Eastern Europe than the U.S. More recently, he got a new claim to fame when he presented his virulent views about homosexuality at a 2009 anti-gay conference in Uganda that is widely believed to have played a role in the drafting of Uganda’s notorious “kill the gays” bill. Lively is president of Abiding Truth Ministries and director of Redemption Gate Mission Society, both currently based in Springfield, Mass.

  78. Anti-gay religious crusaders claim homosexuals helped mastermind the Holocaust. They’re not telling the truth
    By Bob Moser

    For decades now, “Holocaust revisionists” in the U.S. and Europe have published pseudo-scholarly papers and books claiming to prove that the Nazis never carried out a systematic extermination of Jews. In 1995, a book called The Pink Swastika made similar claims about the Nazis’ treatment of homosexuals during the Holocaust.

    Written by fundamentalist activists Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams, The Pink Swastika says that rather than being victimized by the Nazis, gay men in Hitler’s inner circle actually helped mastermind the Holocaust.

    “While we cannot say that homosexuals caused the Holocaust, we must not ignore their central role in Nazism,” write Lively and Abrams. “To the myth of the ‘pink triangle’ — the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted — we must respond with the reality of the ‘pink swastika.'”

    Historians agree that this “reality” is utterly false. But many anti-gay crusaders have used the “gay Nazi” myth as proof that gay people are immoral and destructive.

    “When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany,” Pat Robertson once warned viewers of his 700 Club. “Many of those people involved with Adolf Hitler were satanists. Many of them were homosexuals. The two seem to go together.”

    The Pink Swastika has been promoted by anti-gay groups like the Family Defense Council. The FDC’s Dr. Howard Hurwitz called the book “a thoroughly researched, eminently readable, demolition of the ‘gay’ myth, symbolized by the pink triangle, that the Nazis were anti-homosexual.”

    In fact, while the number of homosexuals who died in the Holocaust does not approach the number of Jewish or Gypsy victims, the historical record shows that between 50,000 and 100,000 men were arrested for homosexuality (or suspicion of it) under the Nazi regime. They were routinely sent to concentration camps and marked with a pink triangle on their prison garb.

    They were not systematically exterminated. But huge numbers are believed to have died in the work camps, along with an untold number of homosexual Jews, Gypsies and other “defectives” who were sent to extermination camps.

    The myth that Nazis condoned or promoted homosexuality sprang up as a slander against Nazi leaders by their socialist opponents in the 1930s. Only one of the half-dozen leaders in Hitler’s inner circle, Ernest Rohm, is believed by credible historians to have been gay.

    The “gay Nazi” slander stuck, though, partly because German laws against homosexuals remained in place for a quarter of a century after World War II ended. That effectively silenced many homosexual victims of the Holocaust from telling their stories. A landmark survivor’s memoir, The Men With the Pink Triangle, began to break that silence in 1972.

    There is no question that the Nazis saw homosexuality as one aspect of the “degeneracy” they were determined to extinguish. When it came to power in 1933, the Nazi Party moved quickly to strengthen Germany’s existing penalties against homosexuality. On Oct. 11, 1936, Hitler’s security chief, Heinrich Himmler, went further, announcing that homosexuality was to be “eliminated” in Germany, along with miscegenation between the races.

    In 1942, the death penalty was instituted for homosexuality. Offenders in the German military were routinely shot. “That wasn’t a punishment,” Himmler explained, “but simply the extinguishing of abnormal life. It had to be got rid of, just as we pull out weeds, throw them on a heap, and burn them.”

  79. Pastor Charles L. Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church — located at 3283 Providence Mill Rd, Maiden, NC 28650 — is seen here from a service posted to the church’s website dated May 13, 2012 calling for the concentration and ultimate death of “queers and homosexuals.”

  80. Elaine, While it is true that the Nazis were intolerant of most gays, the fact is that politics of them were far more important and gays were tolerated as long as they were politically correct. There were many prominent gays in positions of power in Nazi Germany and occupied countries who were not subject to the anti-gay laws. The head of the SA, Roehm was a notorious homosexual which Hitler knew from the beginning. He was only killed because he was getting too big for Hitlers purposes, not because he was gay. Gertrude Stein spent all of WWII in Paris with no problem even though she was a Jew, a lesbian, and an American, and a fascist. The same held true in the McCarthy era in the US with Roy Cohen being a notorious gay man, Joseph Alsop, and other prominent right wing gays who led their lives normally with no consequences for their gayness. It is one thing to say that the gays contributed to the Holocaust, and quite another to say that they were the moving force which is clearly not the case.

  81. Nazi Persecution of Homosexuals
    United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

    After taking power in 1933, the Nazis persecuted homosexuals as part of their so-called moral crusade to racially and culturally purify Germany. This persecution ranged from dissolution of homosexual organizations to internment of thousands of individuals in concentration camps. Gay men, in particular, were subject to harassment, arrest, incarceration, and even castration. In Nazi eyes, gay men were weak and unfit to be soldiers, as well as unlikely to have children and thereby contribute to the racial struggle for Aryan dominance…


    – Under Paragraph 175 of the criminal code, male homosexuality was illegal in Germany. The Nazis arrested an estimated 100,000 homosexual men, 50,000 of whom were imprisoned.

    – During the Nazi regime, the police had the power to jail indefinitely—without trial—anyone they chose, including those deemed dangerous to Germany’s moral fiber.

    – Between 5,000 and 15,000 gay men were interned in concentration camps in Nazi Germany. These prisoners were marked by pink triangle badges and, according to many survivor accounts, were among the most abused groups in the camps.

    – Nazis interested in finding a “cure” for homosexuality conducted medical experiments on some gay concentration camp inmates. These experiments caused illness, mutilation, and even death, and yielded no scientific knowledge.

  82. Nazi persecution of Homosexuals 1933-1945
    United States Holocaust Memorial Museum



    Between 1933 and 1945, Germany’s National Socialist (Nazi) government under Adolf Hitler used its monopoly of authority to attempt to rid German territory of people who did not fit its vision of a “master Aryan race.” Foremost among the so–called racial enemies, according to the Nazis’ antisemitic ideology, were the Jews. When Germany’s pursuit of “living space” led to World War II and the conquest of much of Europe, the Nazis undertook the systematic murder of every Jew in Europe.

    Many other groups were targets of persecution and even murder under the Nazis’ ideology, including Germans with mental and physical disabilities, homosexuals, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Roma (“Gypsies”), Poles, and Soviet prisoners of war. Millions perished in this state–sponsored tyranny.

    The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is dedicated to preserving the memory of all who suffered during this unprecedented tragedy. This online exhibition examines the campaign of persecution and violence against the homosexuals of Germany.

    The Nazi campaign against homosexuality targeted the more than one million German men who, the state asserted, carried a “degeneracy” that threatened the “disciplined masculinity” of Germany. Denounced as “antisocial parasites” and as “enemies of the state,” more than 100,000 men were arrested under a broadly interpreted law against homosexuality. Approximately 50,000 men served prison terms as convicted homosexuals, while an unknown number were institutionalized in mental hospitals. Others—perhaps hundreds—were castrated under court order or coercion. Analyses of fragmentary records suggest that between 5,000 and 15,000 homosexual men were imprisoned in concentration camps, where many died from starvation, disease, exhaustion, beatings, and murder.

  83. “A number of the SA leaders, including Röhm, were homosexuals. Prior to the purge, Hitler for the most part ignored their behavior because of their usefulness to him during his rise to power. However, their usefulness and Hitler’s tolerance had now come to an end. Later, their homosexual conduct would be partly used as an excuse for the murders.”


    The History Place – World War II in Europe
    The Night of the Long Knives

    The four million brown shirted Nazi storm troopers, the SA (Sturmabteilung), included many members who actually believed in the ‘socialism’ of National Socialism and also wanted to become a true revolutionary army in place of the regular German Army.

    But to the regular Army High Command and its conservative supporters, this potential storm trooper army represented a threat to centuries old German military traditions and the privileges of rank. Adolf Hitler had been promising the generals for years he would restore their former military glory and break the “shackles” of the Treaty of Versailles which limited the Army to 100,000 men and prevented modernization.

    For Adolf Hitler, the behavior of the SA was a problem that now threatened his own political survival and the entire future of the Nazi movement.

    The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a ‘second revolution’ were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves. (The first revolution having been the Nazi seizure of power in early 1933.)

    SA Leader Ernst RoehmThe SA was headed by Ernst Röhm, a battle scarred, aggressive, highly ambitious street brawler who had been with Hitler from the very beginning. Röhm and the SA had been very instrumental in Hitler’s rise to power by violently seizing control of the streets and squashing Hitler’s political opponents.

    However, by early 1934, a year after Hitler came to power, the SA’s usefulness as a violent, threatening, revolutionary force had effectively come to an end. Hitler now needed the support of the regular Army generals and the big industry leaders to rebuild Germany after the Great Depression, re-arm the military and ultimately accomplish his long range goal of seizing more living space for the German people.

    The average German also feared and disliked the SA brownshirts with their arrogant, gangster-like behavior, such as extorting money from local shop owners, driving around in fancy news cars showing off, often getting drunk, beating up and even murdering innocent civilians.

    At the end of February, 1934, Hitler held a meeting attended by SA and regular Army leaders including Röhm and German Defense Minister General Werner von Blomberg. At this meeting Hitler informed Röhm the SA would not be a military force in Germany but would be limited to certain political functions. In Hitler’s presence, Röhm gave in and even signed an agreement with Blomberg.

    However, Röhm soon let it be know he had no intention of keeping to the agreement. In April he even boldly held a press conference and proclaimed, “The SA is the National Socialist Revolution!!”

    Within the SA at this time was a highly disciplined organization known as the SS (Shutzstaffel) which had been formed in 1925 as Hitler’s personal body guard. SS chief Heinrich Himmler along with his second-in-command, Reinhard Heydrich, and Hermann Göring, began plotting against Röhm to prod Hitler into action against his old comrade, hoping to gain from Röhm’s downfall.

    On June 4, Hitler and Röhm had a five hour private meeting lasting until midnight. A few days later Röhm announced he was taking a ‘personal illness’ vacation and the whole SA would go on leave for the month of July. He also convened a conference of top SA leaders for June 30 at a resort town near Munich which Hitler promised to attend to sort things out.

    On June 17, Vice Chancellor Franz von Papen, who had helped Hitler become Chancellor, stunned everyone by making a speech criticizing the rowdy, anti-intellectual behavior of the SA and denouncing Nazi excesses such as strict press censorship. Papen also focused on the possibility of a ‘second revolution’ by Röhm and the SA and urged Hitler to put a stop to it. “Have we experienced an anti-Marxist revolution in order to put through a Marxist program?” Papen asked.

    His speech drastically increased the tension between German Army leaders and SA leaders and further jeopardized Hitler’s position. But for the moment Hitler hesitated to move against his old comrade Röhm.

    A few days later, June 21, Hitler went to see German President Paul von Hindenburg at his country estate. Hindenburg was in failing health and now confined to a wheelchair. Hitler met with the Old Gentleman and Defense Minister Blomberg and was stiffly informed the SA problem must be solved or the president would simply declare martial law and let the German Army run the country, effectively ending the Nazi regime.

    Meanwhile, Himmler and Heydrich spread false rumors that Röhm and the SA were planning a violent takeover of power (putsch).

    On June 25, the German Army was placed on alert, leaves canceled and the troops confined to the barracks. An agreement had been secretly worked out between Himmler and Army generals ensuring cooperation between the SS and the Army during the coming action against the SA. The Army would provide weapons and any necessary support, but would remain in the barracks and let the SS handle things.

    On Thursday, June 28, Hitler, Göring, and Goebbels attended the wedding of Gauleiter Josef Terboven in Essen. Hitler was informed by phone that he faced the possibility of a putsch by Röhm’s forces and also faced the possibility of a revolt by influential conservative non-Nazis who wanted Hindenburg to declare martial law and throw out Hitler and his government.

    Hitler then sent Göring back to Berlin to get ready to put down the SA and conservative government leaders there. The SS was put on full alert.

    Friday, June 29, Hitler made a scheduled inspection tour of a labor service camp and then went to a hotel near Bonn for the night. He was informed by Himmler that evening by phone that SA troops in Munich knew about the coming action and had taken to the streets.

    Hitler decided to fly to Munich to put down the SA rebellion and confront Röhm and top SA leaders who were gathered at the resort town of Bad Wiessee near Munich.

    Arriving in Munich near dawn, Saturday, June 30, Hitler first ordered the arrest of the SA men who were inside Munich Nazi headquarters, then proceeded to the Ministry of the Interior building where he confronted the top SA man in Munich after his arrest, even tearing off his insignia in a fit of hysteria.

    Next it was on to Röhm. A column of troops and cars containing Hitler, Rudolf Hess, and others, sped off toward Röhm and his men.

    At this point, the story is often told (partly conceived by the Nazis) of Hitler arriving at the resort hotel about 6:30 a.m. and rushing inside with a pistol to arrest Röhm and other SA leaders.

    However it is more likely the hotel was first secured by the SS before Hitler went near it. Hitler then confronted Röhm and the others and sent them to Stadelheim prison outside Munich to be later shot by the SS.

    An exception was made in the case of Edmund Heines, an SA leader who had been found in bed with a young man. When told of this, Hitler ordered his immediate execution at the hotel.

    A number of the SA leaders, including Röhm, were homosexuals. Prior to the purge, Hitler for the most part ignored their behavior because of their usefulness to him during his rise to power. However, their usefulness and Hitler’s tolerance had now come to an end. Later, their homosexual conduct would be partly used as an excuse for the murders.

    Saturday morning about 10 a.m. a phone call was placed from Hitler in Munich to Göring in Berlin with the prearranged code word ‘Kolibri’ (hummingbird) that unleashed a wave of murderous violence in Berlin and over 20 other cities. SS execution squads along with Göring’s private police force roared through the streets hunting down SA leaders and anyone on the prepared list of political enemies (known as the Reich List of Unwanted Persons).

    Included on the list: Gustav von Kahr, who had opposed Hitler during the Beer Hall Putsch of 1923 – found hacked to death in a swamp near Dachau; Father Bernhard Stempfle, who had taken some of the dictation for Hitler’s book Mein Kampf and knew too much about Hitler – shot and killed; Kurt von Schleicher, former Chancellor of Germany and master of political intrigue, who had helped topple democracy in Germany and put Hitler in power – shot and killed along with his wife; Gregor Strasser, one of the original members of the Nazi Party and formerly next in importance to Hitler; Berlin SA leader Karl Ernst, who was involved in torching the Reichstag building in February, 1933; Vice-Chancellor Papen’s press secretary; Catholic leader Dr. Erich Klausener.

    Saturday evening, Hitler flew back to Berlin and was met at the airport by Himmler and Göring in a scene later described by Hans Gisevius, a Gestapo official, present.

    “On his way to the fleet of cars, which stood several hundred yards away, Hitler stopped to converse with Göring and Himmler. Apparently he could not wait a few minutes until he reached the Chancellery�From one of his pockets Himmler took out a long, tattered list. Hitler read it through, while Göring and Himmler whispered incessantly into his ear. We could see Hitler’s finger moving slowly down the sheet of paper. Now and then it paused for a moment at one of the names. At such times the two conspirators whispered even more excitedly. Suddenly Hitler tossed his head. There was so much violent emotion, so much anger in the gesture, that everybody noticed it�Finally they moved on, Hitler in the lead, followed by Göring and Himmler. Hitler was still walking with the same sluggish tread. By contrast, the two blood drenched scoundrels at his side seemed all the more lively�”

    As for Ernst Röhm – on Hitler’s order he had been given a pistol containing a single bullet to commit suicide, but refused to do it, saying “If I am to be killed let Adolf do it himself.” Two SS officers, one of whom was Theodore Eicke, commander of the Totenkopf (Death’s Head) guards at Dachau, entered Röhm’s cell after waiting fifteen minutes and shot him point blank. Reportedly, Röhm’s last words were “Mein Führer, mein Führer!”

    On Sunday evening, July 1, while some of the shooting was still going on, Hitler gave a tea party in the garden of the Chancellery for cabinet members and their families to give the appearance things were getting back to normal.

    By 4 a.m., Monday, July 2, the bloody purge had ended. The exact number of murders is unknown since all Gestapo documents relating to the purge were destroyed. Estimates vary widely from 200 or 250, to as high as 1,000 or more. Less than half of those murdered were actually SA officers.

    In one case, a man named Willi Schmidt was at home playing the cello. Four SS men rang the doorbell, entered and took him away, leaving his wife and three young children behind. They had mistaken Dr. Willi Schmidt, music critic for a Munich newspaper, for another Willi Schmidt on the list. Dr. Schmidt was assassinated and his body later returned to his family in a sealed coffin with orders from the Gestapo that it should not be opened.

    On July 13, Hitler gave a long speech to the Nazi controlled Reichstag (Parliament) in which he announced seventy four had been shot and justified the murders.

    “If anyone reproaches me and asks why I did not resort to the regular courts of justice, then all I can say is this: In this hour I was responsible for the fate of the German people, and thereby I became the supreme judge of the German people.”

    “It was no secret that this time the revolution would have to be bloody; when we spoke of it we called it ‘The Night of the Long Knives.’ Everyone must know for all future time that if he raises his hand to strike the State, then certain death is his lot.”

    By proclaiming himself the supreme judge of the German people, Hitler in effect placed himself above the law, making his word the law, and thus instilled a permanent sense of fear in the German people.

    The German Army generals, by condoning the unprecedented events of the Night of the Long Knives, effectively cast their lot with Hitler and began the long journey with him that would eventually lead them to the brink of world conquest and later to the hanging docks at Nuremberg after the war.

    A few weeks after the purge, Hitler rewarded the SS for its role by raising the SS to independent status as an organization no longer part of the SA. Leader of the SS, Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler now answered to Hitler and no one else. Reinhard Heydrich was promoted to SS Gruppenführer (Lieutenant-General).

    From this time on, the SA brownshirts would be diminished and all but disappear eventually as its members were inducted into the regular Army after Hitler re-introduced military conscription in 1935.

    The SS organization under Himmler and Heydrich would greatly expand and become Hitler’s instrument of mass murder and terror throughout the remaining history of the Third Reich, another eleven years.

    Copyright © 1996 The History Place™ All Rights Reserved

  84. Elaine….. In full force today are the Mindless Strawmen….. Not as awesome as the Headless Horsemen….

  85. I am Paul, I’m also interjecting my own thoughts into the discussion. Lighten up, you always get yourself riled so easily? You don’t want to sound like ol’ Nick with his “Serenity now” silliness, do you? Hmmm? 😉

  86. annie – if you followed the discussion carefully you would not be asking those questions. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

  87. Elaine,
    Yep, some folks love directing the discussion, heck the whole thread actually. Stray thoughts should remain caged! Ja voll Herr Paul?

  88. From the Holocaust Encyclopedia

    Röhm Purge


    Between June 30 and July 2, 1934, the Nazi Party leadership, on the order of Nazi Party Leader and Reich Chancellor Adolf Hitler, purged the leadership of the Nazi paramilitary formation, the Sturmabteilungen (Storm Troopers; SA). The Nazi leaders took advantage of the purge to kill other political enemies, primarily on the German nationalist right. Known as the “Night of the Long Knives” or “Operation Hummingbird,” the murders cemented an agreement between the Nazi regime and the German Army (Reichswehr) that enabled Hitler to proclaim himself Führer of National Socialist Germany and to claim absolute power.


    By June 1934, the SA, led by longtime Hitler friend and SA Chief of Staff Ernst Röhm, had expanded to a force of nearly three million men. The SA significantly outnumbered the German Army, which the Treaty of Versailles had limited to 100,000 men. It had provided an intimidating and often violent presence as the Nazi Party rose to power during the 1920s and 1930s. After Hitler became chancellor in 1933, many political leaders, including President Paul von Hindenburg and Vice-Chancellor Franz von Papen, feared that the SA had become too powerful. Although the SA continued to provide key support to the Nazi regime as it consolidated its power into a dictatorship in 1933, the demands of its leadership to “finish” the Nazi revolution became a source of embarrassment and discomfort for Hitler in his dealings with the traditional German nationalist elites. The SA leadership sought to remove the elites from power and replace them in their positions with fanatical Nazis. Hitler, the Nazi Party leadership, and the leadership of the SS, a formation of the SA, understood, however, that the Nazi regime would have to work with the traditional elites to consolidate its power and to prepare the nation for a war of expansion.

    SA dissatisfaction with what its leaders perceived to be the stagnating pace of the Nazi revolution threatened by the late winter and spring of 1934 to split the Nazi-Nationalist coalition. The ambition of the SA leaders to replace the officer corps of the Reichswehr and to replace the professional Army with a “People’s Army” became a threat to the Nazi regime itself, as the Army leaders responded by demanding the elimination of the SA as a condition for permitting the Nazi government to remain in power. Moreover, Röhm and his top commandants had lost the confidence of other key Nazi leaders, including Prussian Prime Minister Hermann Göring, Deputy Nazi Party Chief Rudolf Hess, Reich Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels, and the SS leadership, Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich.

    As early as April 1934, Himmler and Heydrich began to conspire with Göring to persuade Hitler to eliminate Röhm. In mid-June 1934, they planted rumors and evidence that Röhm was planning to overthrow the regime. Meanwhile, President von Hindenburg, the leadership of the Reichswehr, and Hitler’s conservative coalition partners, including Vice-Chancellor von Papen, issued warnings about the increasing radicalization of the Nazi regime. If the “revolutionary elements” of the Nazi regime were not brought under control, the Army leaders threatened to overthrow the Hitler government and place the country under martial law.

    For all their radical rhetoric, neither Röhm nor his top commanders ever planned to seize power in Germany. Well aware of this, Hitler, who considered Röhm one of his few friends, procrastinated over a decision as tension increased towards the end of spring 1934 and the plot against Röhm took on a more defined shape. Playing for time, Hitler persuaded Röhm to order the top SA leadership to take an extended leave on June 8, 1934. On June 17, Vice-Chancellor von Papen gave a speech at the University Marburg that was highly critical of Nazi failure to maintain the rule of law and seemed to focus Nationalist opposition to the regime. Partly to forestall the formation of a viable nationalist opposition, but primarily to maintain the professional army, which he had incorporated into his planning for rearmament and military expansion, Hitler decided during the last week of June to eliminate the top SA leadership.

  89. Elaine, annie, AY – if you cannot read and comprehend then there is little I can do. There is an old saying in teaching, Elaine might know it, You can lead a student to knowledge, but you cannot make them think.

    Elaine has started this thread and dropped several addition articles to direct our thinking. Is that who you are talking about annie? BTW, your German sucks😉 I dropped out of German and I still know that is wrong.

  90. Repost

    Next it was on to Röhm. A column of troops and cars containing Hitler, Rudolf Hess, and others, sped off toward Röhm and his men.

    At this point, the story is often told (partly conceived by the Nazis) of Hitler arriving at the resort hotel about 6:30 a.m. and rushing inside with a pistol to arrest Röhm and other SA leaders.

    However it is more likely the hotel was first secured by the SS before Hitler went near it. Hitler then confronted Röhm and the others and sent them to Stadelheim prison outside Munich to be later shot by the SS.

    An exception was made in the case of Edmund Heines, an SA leader who had been found in bed with a young man. When told of this, Hitler ordered his immediate execution at the hotel.

    A number of the SA leaders, including Röhm, were homosexuals. Prior to the purge, Hitler for the most part ignored their behavior because of their usefulness to him during his rise to power. However, their usefulness and Hitler’s tolerance had now come to an end. Later, their homosexual conduct would be partly used as an excuse for the murders.

  91. Paul,

    Homosexuality does not lead to beastiality….. Unless you are prone to swing that way….. Nor does homosexuality lead to pedophila…. Unless you swing that way already….. But you are good looking as you say… So… Who knows….. And your comment above is so true…. Some are just incapable of wisdom….. Even though they have a little knowledge…. Those folks are the most dangerous as they think they have wisdom…. Because they have the degree….Even cheese has to age before it’s considered good….

  92. Paul, du bist recht! It should be Jawohl! I forgot much of my German, started speaking English at age three and never turned back. Have you been chanting Serenity now?

  93. 10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked
    By Evelyn Schlatter and Robert Steinback

    MYTH # 5
    Gay men controlled the Nazi Party and helped to orchestrate the Holocaust.

    This claim comes directly from a 1995 book titled The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party, by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams. Lively is the virulently anti-gay founder of Abiding Truth Ministries and Abrams is an organizer of a group called the International Committee for Holocaust Truth, which came together in 1994 and included Lively as a member.

    The primary argument Lively and Abrams make is that gay people were not victimized by the Holocaust. Rather, Hitler deliberately sought gay men for his inner circle because their “unusual brutality” would help him run the party and mastermind the Holocaust. In fact, “the Nazi party was entirely controlled by militaristic male homosexuals throughout its short history,” the book claims. “While we cannot say that homosexuals caused the Holocaust, we must not ignore their central role in Nazism,” Lively and Abrams add. “To the myth of the ‘pink triangle’ — the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted — we must respond with the reality of the ‘pink swastika.'”

    These claims have been picked up by a number of anti-gay groups and individuals, including Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association, as proof that gay men and lesbians are violent and sick. The book has also attracted an audience among anti-gay church leaders in Eastern Europe and among Russian-speaking anti-gay activists in America.

    The Pink Swastika has been roundly discredited by legitimate historians and other scholars. Christine Mueller, professor of history at Reed College, did a line-by-line refutation of an earlier (1994) Abrams article on the topic and of the broader claim that the Nazi Party was “entirely controlled” by gay men. Historian Jon David Wynecken at Grove City College also refuted the book, pointing out that Lively and Abrams did no primary research of their own, instead using out-of-context citations of some legitimate sources while ignoring information from those same sources that ran counter to their thesis.

    The myth that the Nazis condoned homosexuality sprang up in the 1930s, started by socialist opponents of the Nazis as a slander against Nazi leaders. Credible historians believe that only one of the half-dozen leaders in Hitler’s inner circle, Ernst Röhm, was gay. (Röhm was murdered on Hitler’s orders in 1934.) The Nazis considered homosexuality one aspect of the “degeneracy” they were trying to eradicate.

    When the National Socialist Party came to power in 1933, it quickly strengthened Germany’s existing penalties against homosexuality. Heinrich Himmler, Hitler’s security chief, announced that homosexuality was to be “eliminated” in Germany, along with miscegenation among the races. Historians estimate that between 50,000 and 100,000 men were arrested for homosexuality (or suspicion of it) under the Nazi regime. These men were routinely sent to concentration camps and many thousands died there.

    In 1942, the Nazis instituted the death penalty for gay men. Offenders in the German military were routinely shot. Himmler put it like this: “We must exterminate these people root and branch. … We can’t permit such danger to the country; the homosexual must be completely eliminated.”

  94. AY – you are clearly not following what i am writing or posting. Because I read all the posts, I know how you got where you are, but since you haven’t or don’t, you are putting words in my mouth. BTW, it is spelled ‘bestiality.’

  95. Paul,

    No one is putting anything in your mouth but you….. I bet you have the best polished shoes in town…. Now is polish a verb or noun…..

  96. Elaine – if the SPLC said the sky was blue I would go out and check first. They are an extremely biased source.

  97. http://theaxisofstevilshow.com/newsflash/352-bestiality.html

    John and Mary Beth Wilson, of Butcher Hollow, West Virginia announced their separation and intent to divorce following a recent drunken escapade that led to Mary Beth awakening at 2am to the sounds of the cat screeching in the living room below. Apparently, John had come home from the bar and engaged the cat n a sexual encounter. Mary Beth came downstairs and the two began to argue.

    At some point, the argument took a turn to the pronunciation of the word “bestiality”. Mary Beth, who pronounces the word correctly, she asserts, was mortified by John’s pronunciation beast-e-ality. “What kind of a backwards hillbilly cannot pronounce a word like that correctly” she asked a member of our staff.

    While the couple was able to resolve all other differences, this one seems unconquerable and sadly will bring an end to the marriage. John says he has not spoken to Mary Beth since the morning after the fight. “‘You say bestiality, I say beastiality, let’s call the whole thing off ‘ was the last thing I said, or intend to say to her”.

  98. Paul,

    Your sources are definitely biased. In fact, one source you used was affiliated with the John Birch Society.

    I guess you’d prefer to believe the anti-gay rhetoric and writings of an ex alcoholic and drug addict like Scott Lively rather than the word of historians regarding homosexuals and the Nazi party back in 1930s and 1940s Germany.
    So it goes.

  99. Exporting the Anti-Gay Movement
    How sexual minorities in Africa became collateral damage in the U.S. culture wars
    Rev. Dr. Kapya Kaoma
    (The Rev. Dr. Kapya Kaoma is an ordained Anglican priest, citizen of Zambia, and researcher on religion and sexuality for the Boston-based Political Research Associates. He is the author of the investigative report Globalizing the Culture Wars: U.S. Conservatives, African Churches, & Homophobia, published by PRA in 2009. )
    April 24, 2012

    In October 2010, a banner headline ran on the front page of the Ugandan newspaper Rolling Stone: “100 Pictures of Uganda’s Top Homos Leak.” Subheadings warned of these people’s dark designs: “We Shall Recruit 1,000,000 Kids by 2012,” and “Parents Now Face Heartbreaks as Homos Raid Schools.” One of the two men pictured on the front page was David Kato, an outspoken leader of Uganda’s small human-rights movement. Inside the newspaper, his name and home address, along with those of other LGBT Ugandans, were printed. The article called for the “homos” to be hanged.

    Three months later, after numerous threats, Kato was bludgeoned to death in his Kampala home. Police said the motive was robbery, but human-rights advocates did not believe the official story. At Kato’s funeral, an Anglican priest condemned homosexuality. Kato’s death was international news, making him the highest-profile victim of the anti-gay hysteria that has enveloped much of sub-Saharan Africa over the past decade. Although U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has joined other Western diplomats in being openly critical of African political leaders who fail to defend the rights of their LGBT populations, the crisis afflicting sexual minorities on the continent has its origins in the United States. Pejorative attitudes toward LGBT people in Africa have long been widespread. But the recent upsurge in politicized homophobia has been inspired by right-wing American evangelicals who have exported U.S.–style culture-war politics.

    The best-known example of these efforts is Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill. Introduced in the fall of 2009, the bill imposed the death penalty for certain homosexual acts and criminalized human-rights advocacy on behalf of sexual minorities. It grew directly out of a well-attended conference, the “Seminar on Exposing the Truth behind Homosexuality and the Homosexual Agenda,” that took place in the capital, Kampala, in March. To put on the conference, the Uganda-based Family Life Network, which is supported by U.S. Christian-right groups, teamed with two leading anti-gay activists from the States, Holocaust revisionist Scott Lively and Dan Schmierer of the ex-gay group Exodus International. The seminar attracted high-profile religious leaders, parliamentarians, police officers, teachers, and concerned parents. I videotaped the proceedings.

    The marquee speaker was Lively, head of the anti-gay Abiding Truth Ministries in Massachusetts and author of The Pink Swastika, which claims that homosexuals invented Nazism and were instrumental in the Holocaust. Lively began his anti-gay campaigning in the early 1990s as communications director of the Oregon Citizens Alliance (OCA), which sponsored a spate of ballot initiatives to deny civil rights and state benefits to LGBT people. The OCA warned of the alleged homosexual threat to children. Ballot Measure 9, which failed in 1992, would have added this text to the state’s constitution: “All governments in Oregon may not use their monies or properties to promote, encourage or facilitate homosexuality, pedophilia, sadism or masochism. All levels of government, including public education systems, must assist in setting a standard for Oregon’s youth which recognizes that these behaviors are abnormal, wrong, unnatural and perverse and they are to be discouraged and avoided.”

    Lively told his Ugandan audience that a powerful global gay movement had now set its sights on Africa. The “gay agenda” unleashes epidemics of divorce, child abuse, and HIV/AIDS wherever it gains a foothold, he said. If you allow homosexuality, he said, “you can’t stop someone from molesting children or stop them from having sex with animals.” He also suggested that the Rwandan genocide was the handiwork of homosexuals.

    Lively accompanied his fearmongering with an argument that has particular resonance in sub-Saharan Africa: that the spread of LGBT rights is a Western idea—a postcolonial plot to destroy traditional African culture. He spoke of “the people coming to Africa now” to promote human rights for LGBT people, saying, “Many of them are outright liars, and they are manipulating history.They are manipulating facts in order to push their political agenda.”

    The idea that gay rights are not human rights was hardly a new one for Lively’s listeners. A year earlier, it had been put more clearly and succinctly by the most influential U.S. evangelical leader in Africa, Rick Warren, head of the Saddleback “megachurch” in California and author of the best-seller The Purpose-Driven Life. During a visit with political leaders in Rwanda, Uganda, and Kenya, Warren had declared, “Homosexuality is not a natural way of life and thus not a human right.”

  100. AY,

    An excerpt from that Breitbart article:

    “You see, jurors were told the story of Paul Lovell who was spotted by a picnicking couple September 4, allegedly attempting to have intercourse with a sheep near the Tottenham Hotspur training ground in north London.”

    I heard Lovell told the sheep he was attempting to have relations with: “I only have eyes for ewe.”


  101. Elaine – One of my areas of interest is the growth of the Nazi Party. I do not accept what Lively has said about the Holocaust, I explained that way back upstream. Roehm probably was the only ‘high level’ Nazi who was a homosexual, but he was not the only one in the S.A. And it was the S.A. that brought Hitler to power. The S.S. started out as a small, personal body guard for Hitler. They would be responsible for the Holocaust after they grew.

    Would you point out the source that is affiliated with the John Birch Society? I did not think they existed any more.

    On a side-note, you should know that one is really never an ex alcoholic. You can be a sober alcoholic, but you are an alcoholic to your dying breath. Dylan Thomas was a functioning alcoholic whose poetry is incredible. His Under Milkwood is considered one of the finest pieces of writing in modern literature. Robert Downey, Jr is an ex drug addict. He is probably one of the finest actors we have today. Besides, we do not know what the drinking and drug habits of those historians you tout are. Destroying the messenger is usually AYs job. Stay above it.:)

  102. Lol…. That’s Baaaaaaaaahhhh…. I can’t imagine how one even would go about that…. But as a condition of bond…. He must stay away from the barnyards sheeple…… Moooooyaaaaaa…. I guess the sheep lacked capacity to consent…. While he was rejected flat out by the Cow….

  103. The Daily Mail did an article where they pointed out all the typos and misspellings in an official memo that had been sent by the British government. In the article they had at least 5 typos and misspellings of their own. The comments section was a delight to read.

  104. “Stay above it”? Whoa that’s rich coming from someone who first said many homosexuals are pedophiles, when in reality they are the a minority of pedophiles. Then you bring in homosexuality and Naziism? Hmmmm.


  105. So Paul is White, good looking he says and a follower of Nazism….. Hmmmmm….. I’m surprised that he hasn’t uttered Sig Hiel….. I bet he has white supremist garb all over his house….

  106. annie – does no one read?? Many is a lot less than most but more that a couple. God, I feel like i’m teaching 7th graders.

  107. annie – thanks for correcting AY. And I think it is time for you to bring out the civility rules again.

  108. Yes Annie…. Please bring the civility rules out…. Is there anything in the civility rules about misspelling…… If so…. I wonder what JTs going to do…. Will he be admonished by Paul….

    Enquiring Minds want to know…..

  109. Elaine,

    The reason so many folks spell inacurately is because of in attention, auto spell check and marketing a product…… Plus this time I was funning the circus clown…..

    AUE: FAQ excerpt: “Enquiring minds want to know.”
    [This is a fast-access FAQ excerpt.] This originated as a slogan used in TV ads in the 1980s by the National Enquirer.


    You got it…

  110. Paul,

    This explains it all…. You proved that you are an idiot….. You’re not attacking the ideals you feel as justified as Nick does in attacking the person….. Worked out real well for Lee Atwater….

  111. Paul Schulte
    annie – if you followed the discussion carefully you would not be asking those questions. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

    Ho hummm.

    That was funny

  112. Anti-gay pastor Scott Lively of Springfield makes his presence known at Boston gubernatorial forum; other candidates cite support for gay rights
    By Shira Schoenberg

    BOSTON – Most of the candidates for governor speaking at a gay rights forum Tuesday night supported LGBTQ issues. But not Scott Lively.

    The Springfield pastor, anti-gay rights activist and independent candidate railed against “LGBT propaganda,” arguing homosexuality is an acquired condition and not a “normal” form of sexuality, promoting reparative therapy, and saying AIDS can be stopped by ending “homosexual sodomy.”

    The other Democratic and independent candidates for governor largely ignored Lively and talked about their own positions supporting transgender and gay rights.

    Venture capitalist Jeff McCormick, who was seated next to Lively and frequently answered questions after Lively acknowledged the difficulty. “I should win an award after this. Someone owes me a martini,” McCormick said at one point.

    The forum on issues affecting the LGBTQ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer) community was sponsored by MassEquality, a gay rights advocacy group, and by WGBH. It was held at Boston Public Library and moderated by WGBH’s Peter Kadzis.

    Eight gubernatorial candidates participated, including all five Democrats and three independents running for the office. The Democrats included state Treasurer Steve Grossman, Attorney General Martha Coakley, former Medicare and Medicaid administrator Don Berwick, former Homeland Security official Juliette Kayyem and biotech executive Joe Avellone. The independents included McCormick, health care executive Evan Falchuk and Lively. Republican Charlie Baker, a former health care executive and 2010 gubernatorial nominee, declined to attend, citing a scheduling conflict.

    Lively, of Springfield, has made his name as an anti-gay activist. He wrote a book arguing that gays were the foundation of the Nazi party and delivered an anti-gay lecture in Uganda that contributed to the passage of a bill criminalizing homosexuality, according to detractors.

  113. Ugandan group sues anti-gay pastor in US
    Sexual Minorities Uganda says Scott Lively promoted violence against gay people there, contravening international law
    David Smith in Johannesburg
    The Guardian
    Thursday 15 March 2012

    A Ugandan gay rights group is suing an American Christian evangelist it accuses of waging a campaign of homophobia in the east African country.

    Sexual Minorities Uganda filed the lawsuit against minister Scott Lively on Wednesday in Springfield, Massachusetts, under a statute that the group says allows non-citizens to launch US court actions for violations of international law.

    Frank Mugisha, who heads the pressure group, said it was targeting Lively for “helping spread propaganda and violence” against gay people in Uganda.

    “We hope that he will be held accountable for what he did in Uganda,” Mugisha, who won the Robert F Kennedy human rights award last year, was quoted as saying by the Associated Press. “We want to send out a clear message to him and to others.”

    The complaint claims Lively issued a call in Uganda to fight against a “genocidal” and “paedophilic” gay movement which he “likened to the Nazis and Rwandan murderers”. It seeks a judgment that Lively’s actions violate international law and human rights.

    Lively, of Abiding Truth Ministries, is one of three American pastors who visited Uganda in 2009 and whom gay activists accuse of helping draft the original version of its anti-homosexuality bill. Lively denies this.

    The bill demanded the death penalty for certain homosexual acts such as gay people with Aids having sex. It has since been revamped to replace the death penalty with life imprisonment as a maximum sentence.

  114. OP-ED
    How anti-gay Christians evangelize hate abroad
    In the countries where American evangelicals market their culture wars, persecution follows.
    By Kapya Kaoma
    March 23, 2014

    If you live in the United States, it’s easy to be lulled into thinking that the battle for broader civil rights for gay people is nearly over. The last few years have brought important victories in courts, legislatures and at the ballot box, and momentum is firmly on the side of increased equality.

    That’s not true, however, in other parts of the world. The vitriol that has fueled U.S. culture wars for so long is now being exported, and some of our most ardent culture warriors are finding a far more receptive audience abroad.

    In nations such as Uganda, Russia, Nigeria and Belize, an insidious homophobia engineered in America is taking root. I have seen this hate being spread with my own eyes.

    In March 2009, while in Kampala, Uganda, researching reports of U.S. right-wing evangelical involvement in attacks on LGBTQ equality and reproductive justice, I was invited to a three-day conference on homosexuality hosted by the Family Life Network, which is based in New York. The keynote speaker was Scott Lively from Springfield, Mass., who introduced himself as a leading expert on the “international homosexual agenda.” I filmed Lively over the course of two days as he instructed religious and political leaders about how gays were coming to Uganda from the West to “recruit children into homosexuality.”

    Some of his assertions would have been laughable had he not been so deadly serious. He claimed that a gay clique that included Adolf Hitler was behind the Holocaust, and he insinuated that gay people fueled the Rwandan genocide.

    In the United States, Lively is widely dismissed as an anti-gay firebrand and Holocaust revisionist. But in Uganda, he was presented — and accepted — as a leading international authority. The public persecution of LGBTQ people escalated after Lively’s conference, with one local newspaper publishing the pictures and addresses of activists under the headline, “Hang Them.”

    Lively was also invited to private briefings with political and religious leaders, and to address the Ugandan parliament during his 2009 visit. The next month, Ugandan lawmaker David Bahati unveiled his Anti-Homosexuality Bill, which in its original form called for the death penalty as punishment for a new crime of “aggravated homosexuality.”

    In recent years, millions of dollars have been funneled from anti-LGBTQ evangelical conservatives to Uganda, funding local pastors and training them to adopt and mirror the culture-war language of the U.S. Christian right. Bahati and a notorious anti-gay pastor, Martin Ssempa, were personally mentored by U.S. conservatives. And powerful Christian right organizations such as the Family Research Council lobbied Congress to change a resolution denouncing the Uganda legislation.

    Other prominent right-wing evangelicals have also made Uganda appearances, including California’s Rick Warren and Lou Engle, who founded TheCall ministry. They met with politicians, hosted rallies and public meetings, and used their influence and credibility to contribute to a culture war in Uganda much more intense and explosive than anything seen in the United States; Lively himself described the work as a “nuclear bomb” in Uganda. These conservative evangelicals later distanced themselves from the law, saying they didn’t think homosexuality should be criminalized, but it was too late.

  115. ‘The rainbow belongs to God’: Anti-gay US pastor sets sights on Sochi Olympics
    By Tony Dokoupil, Senior Writer, NBC News

    When President Vladimir Putin recently banned “homosexual propaganda” in Russia, he joined sides in a new global culture war: a struggle to stop the march of gay rights abroad even as advocates wave rainbow flags in America. Now, as the Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics approach, both sides are bracing for unrest — and an American pastor is taking credit for the law that started it all.

    Scott Lively is a hero to some, a demon to others and a joke to still more. From his home in Springfield, Mass., he runs Abiding Truth Ministries, a church dedicated to combating “the homosexual agenda,” and Holy Grounds Coffee Shop, where the faithful gather for java and Jesus. Lively also sermonizes overseas, promoting his books — most notably The Pink Swastika, which traces the Nazi Party to a gay bar — and portraying gay love as a “dark force” in human history responsible for the Inquisition, American slavery and the Holocaust.

    Last month a federal judge allowed a first-of-its-kind lawsuit to proceed against Lively that alleges the pastor persecuted gays in Uganda and committed a potential “crime against humanity” — one that contributed to a bill that would have made homosexuality an act punishable by death. And yet the grey-haired 57-year-old has refused to quiet down.

    On his blog this month, Lively praised Putin as “the defender of Christian civilization” for signing this summer a ban on information that treats being gay as valid or attractive — and traced the idea to his own tour of Russia in 2006-7. Last week, Lively suggested Russian officials foil gay activists planning to rainbow-bomb the Olympics by flying a rainbow banner over the games so “the global homosexual movement” would be reminded that “the rainbow belongs to God!”

  116. I believe that this is what Christian Fundamentalists have in mind for this country, heads up. Gay people probably already know this all too well, but those of us with gay friends and relatives who love and cherish them, know that this could happen here if they had their way.

  117. How Uganda was seduced by anti-gay conservative evangelicals
    Tim Walker

    Last month, the Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni finally signed his country’s controversial anti-gay bill into law, outlawing homosexuality and threatening offenders with up to 14 years in prison.

    Mr Museveni claimed the measure was “provoked by arrogant and careless western groups that are fond of coming into our schools and recruiting young children into homosexuality.”

    Critics of the legislation say it is not homosexuality that has been imported from the West, but homophobia. Roger Ross Williams, the director of God Loves Uganda, a documentary about the influence of conservative US Christians in the East African nation, said, “The anti-homosexuality bill would never have come about without the involvement of American fundamentalist evangelicals.”

    One of the first to investigate links between American conservatives and the African anti-gay movement was Kipya Kaoma, a Zambian clergyman living in Boston. Homosexuality was illegal in Uganda under existing colonial laws, he explained, “But nobody was ever arrested or prosecuted based on those old laws. People turned a blind eye to it. Homosexuality was not a political issue.”

    That changed in 2009, Rev Kaoma said, when a group of American evangelicals led by Pastor Scott Lively, a self-proclaimed expert on the “gay movement”, held a series of talks in Uganda. Mr Lively warned audiences that the “evil institution” of homosexuality sought to “prey upon” and recruit Ugandan children in a bid to “defeat the marriage-based society”.

    Dr Frank Mugisha, director of the LGBT rights organisation, Sexual Minorities Uganda (Smug), recently told The Independent on Sunday, “[The idea] of a gay agenda, of recruiting people to homosexuality – that language wasn’t used in Uganda pre-2009. [Lively] made my work very difficult and was conspiring with my legislators, but [to Ugandans] he was like God himself. People were worshipping him as if he was from heaven.”

    American conservatives first arrived in Uganda in significant numbers following the fall, in 1979, of Idi Amin, the Muslim dictator who had banned evangelical Christianity. Among them was Mike Bickle, founder of the Kansas City-based International House of Prayer (IHOP). According to Mr Williams, “Bickle was there on the ground on the day Amin fell… with a group of American Christian leaders, to take the country as a Christian nation.”

    US Christian groups have since spent millions on schools, hospitals and orphanages in Uganda. They have also found fertile ground for their religious values. Rev Kaoma said American conservatives may have lost the culture wars on the home-front, but they believe they can win in the developing world. “The battle has been fought on American soil, and then exported to the African continent,” he said.

  118. […] Just before the first draft of Uganda’s anti-gay bill began circulating in April 2009, Lively traveled to Kampala and gave lengthy presentations to members of Uganda’s parliament and cabinet, which laid out the argument that the nation’s president and lawmakers would later use to justify Uganda’s draconian anti-gay crackdown—namely that Western agitators were trying to unravel Uganda’s social fabric by spreading “the disease” of homosexuality to children.  […]

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