God’s Messenger Cliven Bundy, His Wacko Disciples, and Uncivil Disobedience

Nevada-StateSeal_svgSubmitted by Elaine Magliaro, Weekend Contributor

Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher and scofflaw, was hailed by some people as a folk hero and patriot recently when he—and his followers–engaged in a standoff with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). Caty Enders (Esquire) described the scene in Bunkerville, Nevada, as pundits and politicians descended on the Bundy camp last week “to throw in their American flag hats with the BLM protestors.” She said that a FOX News van had been parked by the side of the road for days—and that “militia snipers kept a trained watch” up on a ridge “as Bundy held court.” She added that disciples of Bundy came from far and wide “to share their personal theories as to why the government was enforcing a court order.”

Bundy has had a number of advocates who have spoken in support of his militant stance against the BLM. Those advocates included some prominent politicians and members of the media. Sean Hannity was one of Bundy’s biggest boosters and helped to make him into a folk hero. Hannity talked with Bundy on a number of occasions on his Fox News show. Joan Walsh (Salon) asked a pertinent question about Bundy on Friday: “How does a guy who declared early on ‘I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing’ become a folk hero in the first place?” She said that both Hannity and Fox News should have realized that the Nevada rancher was “too toxic” prior to his “ongoing self-exposure as a racist.” She added that the extremism of Bundy’s statement about the US government “should have been warning enough that Bundy was not only crazy but dangerous…”

Enders posed a question that was in the same vein as Walsh’s: “Exactly how difficult was it, though, to determine pretty early on that Bundy and his followers were using the threat of force to back up some terrifyingly misguided beliefs?” Enders provided some insight into the thinking and beliefs of Bundy and disciples of his with whom she talked.

Members of the Bundy Brigade Speak Out

Enders spoke to a militia member named Mark who was affiliated with the Oath Keepers group. Mark explained to her “the truth behind public land management.” He said, “The assumption is that the BLM is part of the federal government. But we need to check the facts on that one. The BLM doesn’t work for the government: they work for the United Nations. They might as well be wearing blue helmets. If we find out there’s money being exchanged between Harry Reid and the Chinese government, no one should be surprised.”

Another Bundy disciple told Enders that “Bar-certified lawyers, like the ones who prosecuted Bundy, have sworn loyalty to the British government, whose statutes encourage sex with clients. ‘That’s what they do with all their clients.’”

Enders spent time talking to a former cop who chuckled as he related a story about one of his buddies who once worked as a sheriff in New Mexico. He said his buddy got into some trouble after he pulled over a group of illegals one night. He said his pal “didn’t have room to haul ‘em all, so he put a chain around their neck and put a padlock through it, went to the next one, then he chained ‘em to a tree!” Enders said that the former cop then buckled with laughter as he told her how his friend “left ‘em and went to town to get his pickup to haul ‘em all back in. So, you might imagine, that didn’t play well — ha! You’re a young’un, but everything wasn’t against the law, way back when.” The former cop also told Enders that it was now being proved that the Bureau of Land management was acting on orders “from Troy and Harry Reid, who want to build a solar farm on the land  —  or a wind farm.”

One of Bundy’s disciples drove a beige sedan covered with the following message:

IF YOU WERE BORN IN 1980 AND AFTER. YOU MAY BE IMPLANTED WITH A GOVERNMENT MICROCHIP WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE: GOOGLE DOCTORS THAT REMOVE MICROCHIPS.

Cliven Bundy, God’s Messenger

During the time that Enders spent at the Bundy camp, she witnessed one of the public addresses the Nevada rancher made to his followers. She said that as Bundy—who had just been given a standing ovation—took the stage, he didn’t seem pleased. She said that Bundy reproached the crowd “for failing to follow the word of God – to the letter …”— which he claimed was being “delivered through him.” He wasn’t happy that his supporters failed “to follow his instructions to tear down the toll booths at Lake Mead and disarm the Park Service.” Bundy added, “The message I gave to you all was a revelation that I received. And yet not one of you can seem to even quote it.” He continued, “The records of our bible — how long have they been kept? Thousands of years. They’ve been turned over generation after generation, buried, and all kinds of things happen to ‘em. And yet, here, something I felt was inspired [by God] and yet we haven’t even carried it forth for even a couple of days. Shame on us.”

Bundy expressed frustration because his followers hadn’t been able to deter the BLM “within an hour”—“as the revelation had prophesied.” When an hour had passed, Bundy reportedly got into his bulldozer and decided to march on the BLM himself. His dozer got stuck in the mud—and that led to Bundy’s receiving yet another revelation: “It come to my mind real plain — the good Lord said, ‘Bundy, it’s not your job, it’s THEIR job.’” Bundy reiterated that revelation a little differently in an effort to ensure that his followers understood what he had just told them, “This is not my job, it’s YOUR job.”

Bundy said that he received a message that morning after he prayed. He claimed that he heard a voice say, “Sheriff Gillespie, your work is not done. Every sheriff across the United States, take the guns away from the United States bureaucrats.”

 Uncivil Disobedience

Even  The Weekly Standard–as well as Glenn Beck–has been critical of Cliven Bundy. The magazine’s Scrapbook explained the whole Bundy situation with regard to grazing fees and court rulings. The Scrapbook said that what had transpired over the years didn’t sound “like the dread hand of tyranny, in Nevada or Washington, oppressing an innocent farmer, or pushing some law-abiding citizen around.” It said it sounded, instead, “like a rancher gaming the system to his own financial advantage, and disguising his scheme in populist rhetoric: refusing to pay a tax which others must pay, and ‘tying up the courts’—for two decades!—as he continues to ignore the law.”

The Weekly Standard:

Far from acting in an arbitrary or capricious manner, the federal government has shown patience and forbearance in the face of lawlessness that customarily lands people in jail. It is worth noting that Bundy’s rancher-neighbors and the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association, who contend with the same federal policies, offer him little support.

Apocalypse Cow – Welfare Rancher, Part 1 (The Daily Show)
Apocalypse Cow – Welfare Rancher, Part 2 (The Daily Show)

 

SOURCES

Life at The Bundy Ranch, Uncensored: Live From Bunkerville! Welfare negroes, the United Nations, sexually devious lawyers, satan, a Chinese solar farm, microchips, secret-agent NPS, and more! (Esquire)

Fox News’ new laughingstock: Cliven Bundy — and Stephen Colbert — will destroy Sean Hannity (Salon)

Uncivil Disobedience (The Weekly Standard)

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752 thoughts on “God’s Messenger Cliven Bundy, His Wacko Disciples, and Uncivil Disobedience”

  1. What does WC have to do with fraudulent SSI and SSDI ? It’s a distraction, IMO.

  2. SWM, there used to be some significant variances in WC. As you may know, Wi. was where WC began. All states have basically the same system, per se. The rules determining certain aspects do vary, but the basic concept is the Wi. model. Although, I can’t speak for EVERY state. As you may know, Ca. took the good Wi. model and put it on steroids. That is a WC hell w/ claims WAY out of control. Barbara Boxer’s husband became a multi millionaire representing WC claimants. “There’s gold in them thar claimants,” 20% @ a time.

  3. Workers comp varies from state to state. Can’t really be lumped in with SSDI for statistical purposes.

  4. http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/ The pay for disability is 13,000 a year plus Medicare. No one is getting rich. Many go on disability for the insurance. The states with the highest number of claimants with the exception of Michigan and Maine are in the south where there are large numbers of people without high school diplomas and the necessary skills to get a desk job. A shift from welfare to disability has occurred.

  5. Mr. Spinelli,

    Would municipalities set up WC funds for the private construction industry? And how much of the disability pie is WC from taxpayer’s funds?

  6. I think it only fair to ridicule ipse dixit arguments as they allow for gross distortion.

  7. Most worker’s compensation is paid by private companies. However, municipalities often set up their own WC funds and those are w/ tax dollars from the people who pay taxes. The producers in our society.

  8. Before people jump on me. I made an honest mistake, the 47% should be 44%. Integrity is important in my profession and in my personal life.

  9. Isn’t workman’s comp paid by the private companies?

    And that wonderful new phrase….. ipse dixit

  10. Objection your honor, Mr. Supak is either willfully distorting the skyrocketing claim statistics previously stated and in the record, to confuse the jury, or he forgot the facts already testified to previously.

    Court: Objection sustained. We will take a 15 minute recess, a couple jurors look like they could use a break and are due one. In that time Mr. Supak, please read the transcript and refer to the prior testimony accurately. Adjourned.

  11. Dr. Stanley,

    I can do that but I had a different goal in hoping one could post page 9. I’m not sure everyone takes the time to read the links. Just wanted to make it easy for them.

  12. Workers comp. is a form of disability. That is include in the staggering 47% figure. Every year there is an “injury season” as we in the know would call it. Ironically, they were right around the same time of year. SWM, you lived in Mn. which is very similar to Wi. in climate and culture. Well, every year, just before deer hunting season[a secular holiday week in Nov. in these states] there would be a huge uptick in “injuries.” I would be swamped w/ people to conduct surveillance. The other season was when the landscaping and construction layoffs were about to come. Work comp. pays better than unemployment. So, there were would be a rash of “injuries” as winter came upon us. The sector of the economy that was most effected by this recession was housing construction. The people w/ occupational back injuries all of a sudden cropping up were not the elderly, they were well built guys in their 40’s.

  13. Nick:

    “But there has been a 47% increase over the past decade!”

    A 47% increase in what? Claims? Awards?

    In your previous comment you said a 27% increase since 2003.

    This is why we ask for sources.

    And how is this last decade all Obama’s fault? He’s only been President for 6 years.

    And please show the exact things that Obama has done to make it easier to get. I showed you what Reagan did, but so far all you have is accusations and assertions with no proof.

  14. feynman,
    Since it is a PDF, you can save the whole thing as a document in your word processor file. No need for a screen shot. Besides, WordPress does not allow embedded images unless your HTML skills are a lot better than mine.

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