“They Have To Die”: Israeli Politician’s Comments Calling For Killing of Mothers of Palestinians Trigger International Backlash

220px-AYELET_SHAKED220px-Erdogan_croppedThe situation in Israel and Palestine continues to grow worse on both sides. First you had the savage murder of three Israeli teens. Then you had the retaliation burning of a Palestinian teenager. Now protests are erupting all over Israel and the world on both sides. Some of the coverage is focusing on statements made by Israeli lawmaker Ayelet Shaked on Facebook that day before three Israeli men went out and picked up Muhammad Abu Khdeir, 16, at random and burned him alive. Shaked’s post calls Palestinians “little snakes” and declares that “the entire Palestinian people is the enemy.” Now comments by Israeli Knesset member Ayelet Shaked has caused an international outcry including contributing to a continuing rift with Turkey. Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has denounced the remarks and denounced Israel in an analogy to the Nazi regime. The situation is clearly getting worse by the day in the region.

Ayelet Shaked is a member of the ultra-nationalist Jewish Home party, which is part of the ruling coalition. She is quoted as calling for the slaughter of Palestinian mothers who give birth to “little snakes.” Shaked posted a screed on Facebook that various critics are denouncing as a call for genocide. Shaked reportedly stated: “They have to die and their houses should be demolished so that they cannot bear any more terrorists . . . are all our enemies and their blood should be on our hands. This also applies to the mothers of the dead terrorists.”

The Facebook posting stated:

“Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there.”

Her comments have become the focus of the rising protests over Israel’s response to the killing of the teenagers and later rockets attacks. Turkey’s Prime Minister responded with to the comments and later Israeli retaliatory strikes with a charge that Israel is now engaging state terrorism. He drew an analogy that itself is likely to enrage many Israelis: “An Israeli woman said Palestinian mothers should be killed, too. And she’s a member of the Israeli parliament. What is the difference between this mentality and Hitler’s?”

Shaked holds degree in electrical engineering and computer sciences and she worked in marketing for Texas Instruments. She has past ties to Benjamin Netanyahu. From 2006-2008, she was the office director for the office of Netanyahu. She then established “My Israel” with Naftali Bennet, but in January 2012 she was elected to serve as the coordinator of Likud. She later became a Knesset member for the Jewish Home Party, a successor party to the National Religious Party. The party is committed to a nation governed by Jewish law under the belief that Jews are divinely ordained to rule over the Land of Israel. The party has been active in supporting the expansion of Jewish settlements in Palestinian terrorizes and largely represents Orthodox Jews according to news report.

Here is what has been posted as a full translation of Shaked’s statement:

The Palestinian people has declared war on us, and we must respond with war. Not an operation, not a slow-moving one, not low-intensity, not controlled escalation, no destruction of terror infrastructure, no targeted killings. Enough with the oblique references. This is a war. Words have meanings. This is a war. It is not a war against terror, and not a war against extremists, and not even a war against the Palestinian Authority. These too are forms of avoiding reality. This is a war between two people. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. Why? Ask them, they started.

I don’t know why it’s so hard for us to define reality with the simple words that language puts at our disposal. Why do we have to make up a new name for the war every other week, just to avoid calling it by its name. What’s so horrifying about understanding that the entire Palestinian people is the enemy? Every war is between two peoples, and in every war the people who started the war, that whole people, is the enemy. A declaration of war is not a war crime. Responding with war certainly is not. Nor is the use of the word “war”, nor a clear definition who the enemy is. Au contraire: the morality of war (yes, there is such a thing) is founded on the assumption that there are wars in this world, and that war is not the normal state of things, and that in wars the enemy is usually an entire people, including its elderly and its women, its cities and its villages, its property and its infrastructure.

And the morality of war knows that it is not possible to refrain from hurting enemy civilians. It does not condemn the British air force, which bombed and totally destroyed the German city of Dresden, or the US planes that destroyed the cities of Poland and wrecked half of Budapest, places whose wretched residents had never done a thing to America, but which had to be destroyed in order to win the war against evil. The morals of war do not require that Russia be brought to trial, though it bombs and destroys towns and neighborhoods in Chechnya. It does not denounce the UN Peacekeeping Forces for killing hundreds of civilians in Angola, nor the NATO forces who bombed Milosevic’s Belgrade, a city with a million civilians, elderly, babies, women, and children. The morals of war accept as correct in principle, not only politically, what America has done in Afghanistan, including the massive bombing of populated places, including the creation of a refugee stream of hundreds of thousands of people who escaped the horrors of war, for thousands of whom there is no home to return to.

And in our war this is sevenfold more correct, because the enemy soldiers hide out among the population, and it is only through its support that they can fight. Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. Actors in the war are those who incite in mosques, who write the murderous curricula for schools, who give shelter, who provide vehicles, and all those who honor and give them their moral support. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there.

By the way, there was an interesting interview (here) with the Israeli spokesman (who by they way — regardless of how you feel about the merits of his argument — holds up well under a withering series of questions). The interview covers both views of the ongoing conflict.

UPDATE: Shaked responded by stressing that she was citing and quoting an article written by another individual some 12 years ago:

Let’s start with my July 1 Facebook post. It was written some 12 years ago, but never published, by a dear man, the recently departed journalist Uri Elitzur. The gist of his article was that once one side in a war attacks the other side’s civilians, they can no longer morally claim a special status for their own civilians.

Go ahead, ask a Hebrew speaking friend to translate it for you, they’ll confirm this is what my Facebook post was about. But you’ll find not a trace of that in Resnick’s account. Perhaps it’s his own ignorance of the Hebrew language. After all, he got the text from Electronic Intifada, a website dedicated to daily and hourly vilification of my country.

All Resnick had to do to make Elitzur’s sober, legally minded discussion sound like a speech made by Hitler himself, was to cherry pick words out of context. A call for the indiscriminate killing of children is a terrible thing. But what if the statement was that any time you attack our children, you’re exposing your own people to the same fate? Still unsettling, but rational when you consider their civilian population is actively supporting and participating in their war and terror efforts. It’s not a call for indiscriminate murder.

288 thoughts on ““They Have To Die”: Israeli Politician’s Comments Calling For Killing of Mothers of Palestinians Trigger International Backlash”

  1. Randy, Randy Randy, The talking out of your butt was your comment that “the pro Russians do not have a missile system to shoot down and airline @ that altitude.” How in the hell could you know that?? That area is in a state of flux. Things change hourly. I’ve tried to discuss subjects w/ you in the past and you are all over the place. Bringing up something that occurred decades ago, and then saying I said you made that up is diversionary @ best. Again, you made up knowledge of what missile systems pro Russian separatists have. Acknowledge that, and we can continue. Otherwise, I won’t engage further.

  2. po
    The relative BBQ’s for the neighborhood now. Don’t dare try to break out of your room… He’s threatened to bulldoze it.

  3. “I and the pbluic know, what all schoolchildren learn;
    Those to whom evil is done, do evil in return.”

  4. An interview the US will never let happen…
    ‘The Israeli military does not target civilians’ – video

  5. Where did you obtain the universal axiom – Israel has a right to exist?

    The universal axiom (paraphrased) is that every particle of matter has a right to exist until it doesn’t.

    Britain had a right to its colonies until it didn’t.

    The States had the right to unite and secede until they didn’t.

    The USSR had the right to unite and secede until it didn’t.

    [[Oops! Something funny there, huh (could it be global recognition, past, present and future, of the right to secede on the part of a sub-state, like Henry VIII had the right to divorce way back when)?]]

    Hitler had a right to create an efficient, high-tech, super society and war machine until he didn’t.

    Martin Luther King had a right to plagiarize, philander, solicit alms and protest until he didn’t.

    Americans had a right to freedom and the “blessings of liberty” with a noninterfering government limited to security and infrastructure under the literal words of the Preamble, Constitution and Bill of Rights,

    UNTIL THEY DIDN’T.

    Seriously!

    The inmates have taken over the asylum.

  6. A few deontological duties:

    • Duty of non-maleficence (to avoid harming other people).

    • Duty of justice (to ensure people get what they deserve).

    • Duty of reparation (to recompense someone if you have acted wrongly towards them).

    • Duty of promise-keeping (to act according to explicit and implicit promises, including the implicit promise to tell the truth).

    Just saying…

  7. The libertardian Sam Brownback has been rejected by a lot of Kansas Republicans after he did what Bush II did to the nation at large: More than 100 current and former Republican officials endorsed Democratic state Rep. Paul Davis’s bid to unseat Gov. Sam Brownback (R) Tuesday, marking a new setback for the incumbent, who was already facing a competitive reelection campaign.

    A mass defection like this is not typically seen in statewide campaigns. It signaled the tough road ahead Brownback could face as the November election approaches.

    The collection of Republicans, dubbed “Republicans for Kansas Values,” endorsed Davis’s bid at an event in Topeka. They oppose Brownback for a laundry list of reasons, including tax cuts he spearheaded, cuts to education spending and his alienating some centrist members of the GOP.

    The Republicans include state legislators, mayors and delegates to Republican National Convention, among others. (WaPo).

    Isreal is going to reap what they are sowing too.

  8. po
    It’s like the relative you let stay in the extra basement room for the weekend instead insisting the entire house is his domain a year later and has now redecorated the living room, diningroom, both bathrooms, remodeled the kitchen, built an extension onto the garage for his RV of in laws. Then, locks you in your bedroom and bars your windows…

    Some would argue that you deserved it.

    1. No doubt, Max. Israel has managed the holy grail of bullying, managing to bully while convincing others you are the bullied. It is somewhat fascinating!
      This is a great video that takes the long sight:

  9. Nick, if you justify what has been happening in Palestine for over 5 decades with the mere lack or recognition of Israel by Hamas and its vow to kill all jews, then it is just easier and much more satisfying to ridicule you from afar, for it be wasted brain cells than to try convincing you of the errors of your ways. “alleged victims”? “your land”? Facts are not lessened simply by wrapping them with air quotes. How can I legitimately debate you when you are entitled to your own facts?

  10. My guess is that it was the work of Ukrainian separatists using a captured surface to air missile and acting without a clue that they were shooting down a commercial airliner,

  11. po, So you have no response but to ridicule people. That’s probably all you are capable of. The people Israel is fighting wants all Jews dead. The terrorists admit that. It is not debatable. That’s why you resort to ad hominem. I won’t ridicule you. I couldn’t do better than you are yourself.

  12. Bob, The only way this will be “said and done” is if Iran or some other rogue nation wipes Israel off the face of the earth. I pray that never occurs. How ’bout you?

  13. Doesn’t fail, obviously both Nick and Randyjet were dropped on their heads, to be able to spout such inanities as: “Bob, Esq., Did you forget to include the fact that your alleged victims refuse to recognize Israel’s right to exist, and vows to kill all Jews living on “their land.” If the US were in Israel’s shoes we would have been EXPONENTIALLY more aggressive. Indeed, th”e problem would have been solved decades ago, if you get my drift.”
    I have no idea how to even address that. Brains, hearts and speech are surely wasted on some.

  14. Spinelli,

    Hold on there. Those are good Americans up there in Canada.

    If missiles came from that direction, America would presume that Canada had been surreptitiously infiltrated and we would work with our Canadian friends to locate and neutralize the perpetrators.

    Below the southern “border,” by contrast, exists a known, proven, quantifiable and targetable criminal component and, therefore, enemy. The rational and budget-minded among us would eschew the “carpet” mode and decisively deploy appropriately abundant levels of “neutron” ordinance.

  15. WTF does Palin have to do w/ this??? Your comment of 5:18pm is muddled and ludicrous, unworthy of a response other than what I just said. We apparently agree on Israel so why don’t we just leave it there. The FACTS will come out in the shooting down of that Malaysian plane. I’m patient and prudent enough to wait for that inquiry to be completed.

  16. No Nick,

    I don’t get your drift.

    Deontologically speaking, Israel is racking up reparation costs it’s going to have to pay to the Palestinians when and if this is all said and done.

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